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achorladey:


You sure they see those babies as innocent. No be one of their GODS of men housed in USA was preaching saying those babies are enemies of God

When you think you've heard it all 😂😂😂

correctguy101:


Never was aware of this...

No JW I know have been able to answer this for me. They'll always point at this ancestor's lack of religious belief... And shift topic. As a lazy pesin wey I be, I don't even have strength to now argue or demand for straight up answers .. My little strength is better spent on something else that I like

They are not stable and always going back and forth on issues like this. At one time they said vaccinations is a barbaric and filthy acts and never from God or God having anything to do with it. Fast forward today their GODS of men housed in USA gave explicit command that those refusing to accept vaccinations during Covid 19 especially the elders should not be allowed to attend their schools

Like I said, blood transfusion ban go give them too many court battle that will bring the religion down because many have been slaughtered for doctrines they know has no basis or foundation in the Bible.

CJStarz:

When you think you've heard it all 😂😂😂

A topic was created specifically for it on this nairaland and see those usual Max and Jan crew coming to defend their GODS housed in USA that they are correct to say so.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.

My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:

"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:  to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.

WHY?

God's word answered:

For sound health.

So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39

My last comment on this section.

Farewell!

Go bible school, you no gree

Act 10: 14-15

14 But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”

15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, What God has cleansed you must not call common.”

achorladey:


A topic was created specifically for it on this nairaland and see those usual Max and Jan crew coming to defend their GODS housed in USA that they are correct to say so.

Like seriously?
Never read that.
U get the link, abeg?
Whatever Max s is anti humanity

jmichael259:
Blood transfusion itself is not treatment and in a sane country, things can be done without it.
It might be fewer but it's not unusual nor unheard of for people to refuse chemotherapy, invasive surgery, transplants, resuscitation, blood transfusion etc
The sad part of this is that this is a country where Doctors are still using 1945 methodologies. They don't know any other things to do in such situations in case of unavailability(which is a frequent occurrence in our hospitals) or refusal of transfusion. They don't have plasma and other blood replenishment or blood recycling equipment, they don't even know what those things look like.
[b]For the people involved in this particular matter, having to wait till now to attempt to remove the child is a sign of being unprepared or even negligent. The child should have been gone at the first sign of opposition or inability to ister treatment. You have no business there in the first place if you did your homework or actually aligned with the people of your fath.
Do not get pregnant and have kids if you cannot think, plan and save ahead. If the child has a condition or your faith denies some treatment methods then you should have arranged such matters with hospital liaison committees long time ago. A prepared person has no business being in a place where outsiders are now trying to impose, veto or retrace steps for you.
Fortunately, There are thousands of modern hospitals and doctors with experience to cater for these and many more cases such as Laser removal of kidney Stones without surgery, alternative care without chemotherapy, treatment without blood etc
Do not use faith as excuse for blood transfusion if you'll fail to monitor and comply with precautionary measures against drop in blood levels or having emergency s of similar faith doctors or hospitals that are able to handle your case. A person whose faith doesn't allow meat, will go out of their way to find and learn to prepare nutritious and strengthening vegetable based meals.[/b]

Na dem dem

Blood transfusion itself is not treatment and in a sane country, things can be done without it.

Jehovah's Witnesses living in a country not sane. Welcome.

Make we hear word, Liason committee na GOD that can arrest all the situations concerning blood transfusions.

CJStarz:

Like seriously?
Never read that.
U get the link, abeg?
Whatever Max s is anti humanity

Below....

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7637591/all-babies-enemies-god

achorladey:


Na dem dem



Jehovah's Witnesses living in a country not sane. Welcome.

Make we hear word, Liason committee na GOD that can arrest all the situations concerning blood transfusions.

Are you done, Abi E get where you remain for house!?

@ CJStarz

Below is the thread Max created to advance the ideology of his GODS of men housed in USA being correct https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7848261/jw-012-does-being-innocent

jmichael259:

Are you done, Abi E get where you remain for house!?

You dey interested now or the discussion is over just like you said on the others thread? Abi you need time wasters post?

bigiyaro:
they will gladly go to prison, even if it was for a 100 years. That's how strange and strong their misguided faith is, as far as they feel it's still part of suffering because of their faith.

Lol... Im that case, tell them the child will be put up for adoption (to a family that will permit blood transfusion should the need arise). They would have gone to prison in vain

jmichael259:

Are you aware of the cost of marriage, buying cars or building houses in Nigeria? Of course not.
Also in emergency cases like infidelity, fire outbreaks or collapse, what should we do?

Yes I am aware. They are relative. Some cars and houses cost more than others.
In those fire emergencies you listed, you put off the fires.
Now can you quit faffing, and answer my question you dodged. Thank you

[quote author=jmichael259 post=135320280][/quote]
1.In this thread, I can count up to 4 doctors who are practicing in different parts of the world. And the unanimous decision : blood transfusion is still the bedrock of medicine in 2005. If you are a doctor, let us know researches that said blood transfusions ARE NO MORE used in emergencies
2. I gave scenarios of acute blood loss where blood is needed immediately, you haven't replied to that.
3. Please how is that sentence contradictory? Many procedures can be done bloodlessly via laparoscopy but the costs are astronomical. Example, open appendectomy is averagely 500k in Lagos. Laparoscopic appendectomy is averagely 1.5m. How many can afford it? And whats more, not every hospital can do laparoscopic procedures. Its a costly procedure and you may do it maybe once a week. And what's more, some laparoscopic procedures may be eventually converted to open procedures.
So what in the above post is contradictory?

jmichael259:

Are you done, Abi E get where you remain for house!?

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achorladey:



You dey interested now or the discussion is over just like you said on the others thread? Abi you need time wasters post?

jaephoenix:

1.In this thread, I can count up to 4 doctors who are practicing in different parts of the world. And the unanimous decisionno such poll was conducted on this thread : blood transfusion is still the bedrock of medicine in 2005. If you are a doctor, let us know researches that said blood transfusions ARE NO MORE nobody said this used in emergencies
2. I gave scenarios of acute blood loss where blood is needed immediately, you haven't replied to that.
3. Please how is that sentence contradictory?Many procedures can be done bloodlessly via laparoscopy but the costs are astronomical. Example, open appendectomy is averagely 500k in Lagos. Laparoscopic appendectomy is averagely 1.5m. How many can afford it?the same way they're affording burial, weave on, car, phones, rent, fees etc And whats more, not every hospital can do laparoscopic procedures. Its a costly procedure and you may do it maybe once a week. And what's more, some laparoscopic procedures may be eventually converted to open procedures.
So what in the above post is contradictory?

jaephoenix:

Yes I am aware. They are relative. Some cars and houses cost more than others.
In those fire emergencies you listed, you put off the fires.
Now can you quit faffing, and answer my question you dodged. Thank you

If you couldn't pick on the answer and if one has to explain a riddle, proverb etc to you. I don't think you're fit for discuss.

achorladey:


They are not stable and always going back and forth on issues like this. At one time they said vaccinations is a barbaric and filthy acts and never from God or God having anything to do with it. Fast forward today their GODS of men housed in USA gave explicit command that those refusing to accept vaccinations during Covid 19 especially the elders should not be allowed to attend their schools

John.8

[44] You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[quote author=jmichael259 post=135321995][/quote]
1.No poll was conducted. I'm talking about their experience, medical decisions and management protocols globally.
2. Buying phones etc has nothing to do with emergency transfusions
Please answer the questions thrown to you and stop deflecting

jmichael259:

If you couldn't pick on the answer and if one has to explain a riddle, proverb etc to you. I don't think you're fit for discuss.

I never used riddles for you cos this is an intellectual argument. One has to be clear in making point. So clearly answer my questions.
I noticed you JW have a knack of dodging difficult questions. Not just you, the main nut.job here too. Of course we see through all these gimmicks

jmichael259:


John.8

[44] You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Quoting, abusing and manipulations of Bible verses na work of Jehovah's Witnesses when the person they have conversation with don't dance to their tune.

I beg show me one lie for my post. Just one even half lie, make I see first. You are not the first generation of Jehovah's Witnesses to use that scripture on me. You won't be the last. Time wasters peddling brains.

jaephoenix:

I never used riddles for you cos this is an intellectual argument. One has to be clear in making point. So clearly answer my questions.
I noticed you JW have a knack of dodging difficult questions. Not just you, the main nut.job here too. Of course we see through all these gimmicks

Abi

jmichael259:

Baseless, bigotry, inflammatory, diversionary to the discuss.

You are not smart to know that your alternative means more expenses which the common witness on the street can't afford i mean more than 95% of witnesses can't afford it. In your mind i hitting on JW, no the NBS stats for Nigeria is what i am using for a smaller sample for JW . I pity these 95% poor folks who take stuff from 0.1% leadership of JW with hook line and sinker and then pay dearly for their f***lishness

achorladey:
@ CJStarz

Below is the thread Max created to advance the ideology of his GODS of men housed in USA being correct https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7848261/jw-012-does-being-innocent

Thanks man.... Will read through now

jmichael259:

☝🏻👆🏻

Time wasters peddling brains see below.....

You dey interested now or the discussion is over just like you said on the others thread? Abi you need time wasters post?

CJStarz:

Thanks man.... Will read through now

Alright

The first link was how someone exposed their teaching that babies are enemies of God

The second link was how Max tried to defend and failed that their religious leaders were correct to say babies are enemies of God.

achorladey:


Alright

The first link was how someone exposed their teaching that babies are enemies of God

The second link was how Max tried to defend and failed that their religious leaders were correct to say babies are enemies of God.

The video...
Very outrageous words there from the man.
Who on earth says these folks are Christians?
Our Lord Jesus Himself was a Friend to little children. He said, 'allow the little children come to Me, for of SUCH is the Kingdom of Heaven'! But the JW preacher was saying otherwise? Are we still looking for the 'antichrist'? These guys are against Christ and His teachings. They are even against His Divinity. These guys do not even believe in the Holy Spirit that's why they churn out lies and try to manipulate people into believing them. They are too self righteous but depict the literary description as given by Jesus, 'Painted sepulchres'. They have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.
By their fruits, the video inclusive, we have known them. '

GoodSpirit:



You are not smart to know that your alternative means more expenses which the common witness on the street can't afford i mean more than 95% of witnesses can't afford it. In your mind i hitting on JW, no the NBS stats for Nigeria is what i am using for a smaller sample for JW . I pity these 95% poor folks who take stuff from 0.1% leadership of JW with hook line and sinker and then pay dearly for their f***lishness

Their leadership lock themselves up during the Covid 19 era even put the whole establishment on lockdown. Enjoyed their lives and were well fed even collected vaccines to protect themselves.

Ordinary faced the music of not being able to move and not having much financially during those era. People that don't have all the scenarios will painting scenarios for people that face the harsh reality of such issues

CJStarz:

The video...
Very outrageous words there from the man.
Who on earth says these folks are Christians?
Our Lord Jesus Himself was a Friend to little children. He said, 'allow the little children come to Me, for of SUCH is the Kingdom of Heaven'! But the JW preacher was saying otherwise? Are we still looking for the 'antichrist'? These guys are against Christ and His teachings. They are even against His Divinity. These guys do not even believe in the Holy Spirit that's why they churn out lies and try to manipulate people into believing them. They are too self righteous but depict the literary description as given by Jesus, 'Painted sepulchres'. They have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.
By their fruits, the video inclusive, we have known them. '

No be the same Jehovah's Witnesses I know.

They live, drink and eat self righteousness. They must reassure themselves of being right by ridiculing others.

achorladey:


No be the same Jehovah's Witnesses I know.

They live, drink and eat self righteousness. They must reassure themselves of being right by ridiculing others.

Shaa, I don dey notice say their Gen Z no dey too dey follow dem dey carry bag dey waka, unlike before 😂

Their number don dey dwindle for street

CJStarz:


Shaa, I don dey notice say their Gen Z no dey too dey follow dem dey carry bag dey waka, unlike before 😂

Their number don dey dwindle for street

The moment their GODS of men housed in USA stated they don't need to report the hours of preaching any longer which was used to determine their spirituality everybody don check out small small.

Before every baptised and unbaptised member is expected to report at least 10 hours at the end of the month. Even you don't feel like going out to preach then the moment you your hours is not up to 10 hours you go jump up go look for hours even if na follow follow you go do with another person

Gen Z wey no like stress go just pack am for one side.

achorladey:


The moment their GODS of men housed in USA stated they don't need to report the hours of preaching any longer which was used to determine their spirituality everybody don check out small small.

Before every baptised and unbaptised member is expected to report at least 10 hours at the end of the month. Even you don't feel like going out to preach then the moment you your hours is not up to 10 hours you go jump up go look for hours even if na follow follow you go do with another person

Gen Z wey no like stress go just pack am for one side.

Guy, you don open my eyes to these people Wella.
Wait o, how u take know dem reach like dis?
So dem bn dey time dem?
😂😂😂😂

Anyways, thanks for the enlightenment.

One love bro.... one love 💪💪

CJStarz:


Guy, you don open my eyes to these people Wella.
Wait o, how u take know dem reach like dis?
So dem bn dey time dem?
😂😂😂😂

Anyways, thanks for the enlightenment.

One love bro.... one love 💪💪

Looool!

Guy, you don open my eyes to these people Wella

Just like you described them on that thread too

Wait o, how u take know dem reach like dis?

I spent years in that religious denomination as a member ri to the status of an elder in their midst before I pack comot after seeing that they love to project what they are not to others and the very thing they used to qualify others as false Christians is what they do as well.

So dem bn dey time dem?

Yes ooooo, for years for that matter. Since far back as the 1940's they were told their righteousness and integrity to God is based on reporting hours of what they do preaching

If you see their women putting on what looks like tros and men dey grow beard just know that too was another order given to them by their religious leaders.

Anyways, thanks for the enlightenment.

Na why Max was ready to use your words to fight against me. They don't like having conversations with ex . Dem go too bad mouth you once they know you are an ex member.

One love bro.... one love 💪💪

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