DrDoc: 8:41am On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
Oga how am I projecting misinformation ?
Rather than engaging with my concerns . You Dey talk about the issues with my reading or mindset … especially in a business where constructive dialogue and transparency should be welcomed , not shut down
I'm tired. I cant see myself going round in circles when a fixed mind is the problem. If im assumed to be a scam, it is always my yradition to accept and take the next turn. Like i said, i've moved on. Next time read information much more patiently and without negative biases
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lawani(m): 9:07am On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
Good evening
First thing first
So I spent the whole day doing absolutely nothing, so I decided to go through your proposal yet again. This time, I read everything very slowly, like I was decoding Da Vinci’s code.
But one line nearly made me drop my phone…. the part where you said 240% return per cycle. Omo!
So, if I understand correctly… you’re saying if I invest ₦1.5M, by the end of two cycles (aka one year), we will be looking at ₦8M profit? Bros, abeg be calming down. That kind ROI fit raise my ancestors from their grave… even Ponzi people go dey take notes 😆
See ehn, if maize dey pay like this, forget oil, even CBN go start farming. But for real sha… help me understand; I like the confidence and the structure and ambition sha… no lie …
but make we balance am with small reality check. If na so e easy, banks go dey beg farmers with loan. So, talk to me like a partner & brother . Let be 100 percent real with ourselves..
I have done the research once but I did not eventually go into it. For maize and cassava, if you invest 1 million naira, you should be able to make at least 2.5 million naira after 12 months but if you scale it up very much, then security and will take part of the 2.5 million naira.
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Ollyb2020(m): 9:38am On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
Good evening
First thing first
So I spent the whole day doing absolutely nothing, so I decided to go through your proposal yet again. This time, I read everything very slowly, like I was decoding Da Vinci’s code.
But one line nearly made me drop my phone…. the part where you said 240% return per cycle. Omo!
So, if I understand correctly… you’re saying if I invest ₦1.5M, by the end of two cycles (aka one year), we will be looking at ₦8M profit? Bros, abeg be calming down. That kind ROI fit raise my ancestors from their grave… even Ponzi people go dey take notes 😆
See ehn, if maize dey pay like this, forget oil, even CBN go start farming. But for real sha… help me understand; I like the confidence and the structure and ambition sha… no lie …
but make we balance am with small reality check. If na so e easy, banks go dey beg farmers with loan. So, talk to me like a partner & brother . Let be 100 percent real with ourselves..
Hey Boss, I totally get your point and honestly, I respect the fact that you're careful with your capital and i also respect people who ask the tough questions.
just circling back on that car rental idea I shared earlier with you. Truth is, I’ve restructured the idea into a cleaner model, I totally get where you were coming from especially with wanting something transparent, straightforward, and easy to track.
It’s now a solo-operator setup, no shared equity, no complex numbers just clean ROI, fixed monthly returns, and a clear exit plan with everything in writing.
If you’re open to it, I’d love to send over a short PDF that breaks it down. Give it 5 mins, and if you’re still not feeling it, no hard feelings I’ll fully respect that.
Just let me know if I can share it with you.
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AmgAmg: 10:07am On May 10 |
DrDoc:
I'm tired. I cant see myself going round in circles when a fixed mind is the problem. If im assumed to be a scam, it is always my yradition to accept and take the next turn. Like i said, i've moved on. Next time read information much more patiently and without negative biases
I honestly didn’t expect this kind of reaction from you.
Let me just clarify once again ….
at no point did I say you’re a scammer or make any personal attack towards you .
I only did what any responsible person would do before putting money into anything serious: I asked questions.
You’ll recall that it was even your own idea that I share the proposal with my lawyer during my time away. I was about to go ahead with that, but on second thought, I felt it was wise to personally revisit the details once more. So I honestly don’t understand where all of this stuff is coming from .
If asking valid questions or exercising caution is being interpreted as bias or negativity, then maybe this just wasn’t the right fit after all … Like they say, “A man does not run away from the rain because he hates water … he does so because he knows his clothes will get wet.”
If you ever reflect on this again, I hope you’ll see where I was truly coming from.
That said, I’m still open to working with you, …. Well, not because I don’t see the risks, but because I genuinely want to understand them.
I’m not the kind of person that runs away from opportunity just because it looks bold or ambitious. I’m only the kind that likes to understand fully what I’m stepping into. ( key word “understand what I am getting into” )
Let me know your thoughts.
Have a good day
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Ammmy: 10:43am On May 10 |
Get out joor. Mr inheritance
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DrDoc: 10:57am On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
I honestly didn’t expect this kind of reaction from you.
Let me just clarify once again ….
at no point did I say you’re a scammer or make any personal attack towards you .
I only did what any responsible person would do before putting money into anything serious: I asked questions, I took time to think it through, and I tried to understand the risks clearly.
You’ll recall that it was even your own idea that I share the proposal with my lawyer during my time away. I was about to go ahead with that, but on second thought, I felt it was wise to personally revisit the details once more. So I honestly don’t understand where all of this is coming from.
If asking valid questions or exercising caution is being interpreted as bias or negativity, then maybe this just wasn’t the right fit after all … Like they say, “A man does not run away from the rain because he hates water … he does so because he knows his clothes will get wet.”
If you ever reflect on this again, I hope you’ll see where I was truly coming from.
That said, I’m still open to working with you, …. Well, not because I don’t see the risks, but because I genuinely want to understand them.
I’m not the kind of person that runs away from opportunity just because it looks bold or ambitious. I’m only the kind that likes to understand fully what I’m stepping into. ( key word “understand what I am getting into” )
Let me know your thoughts.
Have a good day
Let me answer you this way. Go back and review the document more patiently
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AmgAmg: 11:09am On May 10 |
DrDoc:
Let me answer you this way. Go back and review the document more patiently
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LincolnOnyeabor: 11:23am On May 10 |
Let it be jhare.
If he's not willing to clarify a bit more on your confusions or questions, then let it be shikina!
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DrDoc: 11:28am On May 10 |
LincolnOnyeabor:
Let it be jhare.
If he's not willing to clarify a bit more on your confusions or questions, then let it be shikina!
Why body dey pepper you for my matter ? If i persist, same you will call me scammer ? Focus on the your life and let me focus on my specks
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AmgAmg: 11:40am On May 10 |
Ammmy:
Get out joor. Mr inheritance
Thanks for your empty comment. It’s now floating in the bin of irrelevance. Now keep Scrolling , This thread is for serious discussions only …
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DrDoc: 2:08pm On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
!!!!!
In forex or commodity trading, there is a principle known as increasing the trade volume. This means when a trader makes a certain profit, he increases his trading potentials as a boost to increase his earnings.
In regular business, it is now as compounding interest. In ing, it is better recognized as ANNUITY.
These business principles indicates that one can start business at a lesser point than desired. Then after cashing out first profits, the business person can scale up productivity with increased earnings in sight.
It applies in agriculture. It simply means if Peter can generate 250% his profit in a single trading season. All he needs to do to make more money, is not to grow the same size in his first cultivating season, but to increase his production using his 250% interest which has compounded with his initial profit.
If you use any figure and work the maths on how any business venture can use 250% profit in its first production cycle and use in its next, you would see that the next production cycle is i.e Capital x 250% = Second Season, which equals to = First Capital + 250% earnings x NEW PROFIT COIFFICIENT which means one can earn 600% of startup interest of the initial value at the very start at the beginning of phase One. This is how Issac made 100% of his returns in his first farming in the Bible.
Check it, it is there.
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LincolnOnyeabor: 5:06pm On May 10 |
DrDoc:
In forex or commodity trading, there is a principle known as increasing the trade volume. This means when a trader makes a certain profit, he increases his trading potentials as a boost to increase his earnings.
In regular business, it is now as compounding interest. In ing, it is better recognized as ANNUITY.
These business principles indicates that one can start business at a lesser point than desired. Then after cashing out first profits, the business person can scale up productivity with increased earnings in sight.
It applies in agriculture. It simply means if Peter can generate 250% his profit in a single trading season. All he needs to do to make more money, is not to grow the same size in his first cultivating season, but to increase his production using his 250% interest which has compounded with his initial profit.
If you use any figure and work the maths on how any business venture can use 250% profit in its first production cycle and use in its next, you would see that the next production cycle is i.e Capital x 250% = Second Season, which equals to = First Capital + 250% earnings x NEW PROFIT COIFFICIENT which means one can earn 600% of startup interest of the initial value at the very start at the beginning of phase One. This is how Issac made 100% of his returns in his first farming in the Bible.
Check it, it is there.
Applaud this.
This shows you really know your onion.
This was what you could have said earlier on boss. There are many people following this thread.
Kudos to you sir. And may the odds always be in our Favour
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LincolnOnyeabor: 5:15pm On May 10 |
DrDoc:
In forex or commodity trading, there is a principle known as increasing the trade volume. This means when a trader makes a certain profit, he increases his trading potentials as a boost to increase his earnings.
In regular business, it is now as compounding interest. In ing, it is better recognized as ANNUITY.
These business principles indicates that one can start business at a lesser point than desired. Then after cashing out first profits, the business person can scale up productivity with increased earnings in sight.
It applies in agriculture. It simply means if Peter can generate 250% his profit in a single trading season. All he needs to do to make more money, is not to grow the same size in his first cultivating season, but to increase his production using his 250% interest which has compounded with his initial profit.
If you use any figure and work the maths on how any business venture can use 250% profit in its first production cycle and use in its next, you would see that the next production cycle is i.e Capital x 250% = Second Season, which equals to = First Capital + 250% earnings x NEW PROFIT COIFFICIENT which means one can earn 600% of startup interest of the initial value at the very start at the beginning of phase One. This is how Issac made 100% of his returns in his first farming in the Bible.
Check it, it is there.
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AmgAmg: 7:53pm On May 10 |
DrDoc:
In forex or commodity trading, there is a principle known as increasing the trade volume. This means when a trader makes a certain profit, he increases his trading potentials as a boost to increase his earnings.
In regular business, it is now as compounding interest. In ing, it is better recognized as ANNUITY.
These business principles indicates that one can start business at a lesser point than desired. Then after cashing out first profits, the business person can scale up productivity with increased earnings in sight.
It applies in agriculture. It simply means if Peter can generate 250% his profit in a single trading season. All he needs to do to make more money, is not to grow the same size in his first cultivating season, but to increase his production using his 250% interest which has compounded with his initial profit.
If you use any figure and work the maths on how any business venture can use 250% profit in its first production cycle and use in its next, you would see that the next production cycle is i.e Capital x 250% = Second Season, which equals to = First Capital + 250% earnings x NEW PROFIT COIFFICIENT which means one can earn 600% of startup interest of the initial value at the very start at the beginning of phase One. This is how Issac made 100% of his returns in his first farming in the Bible.
Check it, it is there.
To cut to the chase:
I’ll be honest… I had no intention of responding to you ever again, for reasons too numerous to list. But then again business is business, and emotions have no place in it.
Now back to what I am about to say
Let’s not pretend this is more complicated than it is … because truth be told, you and I both know Everything you just explained in your last message , is infact what I stated up there … All you did was restate the same thing with different words. But that’s fine
To clarify again, for the record:
• The seed capital of ₦1.5 million gives 12 tons of maize.
• At ₦425,000 per ton, that’s ₦5.1 million in revenue.
• Take out the original cost, and you’re left with a ₦3.6 million profit.
Now for the second cycle … That ₦1.5 million has already been spent. What’s left to reinvest is only ₦3.6 million. So:
• Reinvesting that gives 28.8 tons.
• Sold at ₦425,000 per ton, that’s ₦12.24 million in revenue.
• Remove the ₦3.6 million invested, and you’re left with a ₦8.64 million profit.
In short, the total picture is simple: two cycles, ₦12.24 million in total revenue, ₦8.64 million in real profit (yearly) .
Like I said … you and I are playing the same tune. Only difference is who started the melody.
But let’s leave the arithmetic for now. What I truly came seeking wasn’t calculation …. it was clarity.
Because while the numbers sound sweet, not all that glitters is gold. And you and I know too well: Farming is beautiful, but totally unpredictable. Prices fluctuate. Weather happens. Labor fails. Markets shift. Logistics break. And when any of those things do happen, it’s not the Excel sheet that takes the hit …. it’s the investors ( the one who put money down ) .
You’ve painted a compelling picture, but what’s the foundation? Can you honestly say… without hesitation… that there are no hidden risks? That this will unfold exactly as planned?
If your answer is a resounding yes… one that holds up under scrutiny… then I’m open to it .
Send me your email.
I’ll forward a formal proposal with clear : profit-sharing, exit clauses, penalties, and every condition in black and white. Lawyers will review it… because while a handshake starts the journey, a signature secures it.
So again, if you’re ready … truly ready … send your email.
Like I told you, I’ll be back in a couple of months time. But you can drop your email now, and we’ll begin from there.
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DrDoc: 8:02pm On May 10 |
AmgAmg:
To cut to the chase:
I’ll be honest… I had no intention of responding to you ever again, for reasons too numerous to list. But business is business, and emotions have no place in it.
Now back to what I am about to say
Let’s not pretend this is more complicated than it is … because truth be told, you and I both know Everything you just explained in your last message , is infact what I stated up there … All you did was restate the same thing with different words. But that’s fine
To clarify again, for the record:
• The seed capital of ₦1.5 million gives 12 tons of maize.
• At ₦425,000 per ton, that’s ₦5.1 million in revenue.
• Take out the original cost, and you’re left with a ₦3.6 million profit.
Now for the second cycle … That ₦1.5 million has already been spent. What’s left to reinvest is only ₦3.6 million. So:
• Reinvesting that gives 28.8 tons.
• Sold at ₦425,000 per ton, that’s ₦12.24 million in revenue.
• Remove the ₦3.6 million invested, and you’re left with a ₦8.64 million profit.
In short, the total picture is simple: two cycles, ₦12.24 million in total revenue, ₦8.64 million in real profit (yearly) .
Like I said … you and I are playing the same tune. Only difference is who started the melody.
But let’s leave the arithmetic for now. What I truly came seeking wasn’t calculation …. it was clarity.
Because while the numbers sound sweet, not all that glitters is gold. And you and I know too well: Farming is beautiful, but totally unpredictable. Prices fluctuate. Weather happens. Labor fails. Markets shift. Logistics break. And when any of those things do happen, it’s not the Excel sheet that takes the hit …. it’s the investors ( the one who put money down ) .
You’ve painted a compelling picture, but what’s the foundation? Can you honestly say… without hesitation… that there are no hidden risks? That this will unfold exactly as planned?
If your answer is a resounding yes… one that holds up under scrutiny… then I’m open to it .
Send me your email.
I’ll forward a formal proposal with clear : profit-sharing, exit clauses, penalties, and every condition in black and white. Lawyers will review it… because while a handshake starts the journey, a signature secures it.
So again, if you’re ready … truly ready … send your email.
Like I told you, I’ll be back in a couple of months time. But you can drop your email now, and we’ll begin from there.
The problem that got Adam and Eve was pursuit of excess knowledge. Many times the problem in business is when people are too educated it causes problems.
I only posted what I did for education purpose, i've realised a difficulty in doing biz with you. I'm not in tune with your psyche. Its clear for me to see. Business that isnt yours, you want to determine profit and sharing ratio, exit clauses and set penalties.
I wonder where i ever said there are no risks. But rather after years of experience have mastered areas of risks. You are not ready to do biz and cant do biz.with any body with your state of mind. No worry, next year July, i go don cross 150M on my personal earnings.
I'll grow my biz at my pace. May you find people who can do you. No be me. No one dictates my business policies. That's why I'm my CEO
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AmgAmg: 7:19am On May 11 |
DrDoc:
The problem that got Adam and Eve was pursuit of excess knowledge. Many times the problem in business is when people are too educated it causes problems.
I only posted what I did for education purpose, i've realised a difficulty in doing biz with you. I'm not in tune with your psyche. Its clear for me to see. Business that isnt yours, you want to determine profit and sharing ratio, exit clauses and set penalties.
I wonder where i ever said there are no risks. But rather after years of experience have mastered areas of risks. You are not ready to do biz and cant do biz.with any body with your state of mind. No worry, next year July, i go don cross 150M on my personal earnings.
I'll grow my biz at my pace. May you find people who can do you. No be me. No one dictates my business policies. That's why I'm my CEO
Let me be honest …. from the very first day I saw your so-called proposal,
I saw gigantic red flags.
In fact, the thing be like alarm bell wey no get off button for my face.
You really dey ask me for 25m for proposal …
Someone who can’t handle being questioned without taking offense… get all defensive and confrontational
If money was as cheap and easy as the way you make it seem like ,
even b€ggars would be shareholders by now . With all the pride and empty noise in your words, you’d think na your words dey print currency.
If na so e easy, why you never waka enter bank make dem fund your dreams straight?
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