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motymop: 11:08pm On Jan 07
firstolalekan:

@ bolded, you must be referring to your parents.
I'm not sure a daft soul even knows the meaning of ability here, You're just misusing the word.
How can you be held able for what you didn't cause?
Did they ask the people to come before the SLATED time? Did they force them to be unruly ?

your parent didnt teach abilty in other word responsibility

that is why many of you still behave like kids at 30 years of age

As i have explained to other people that think like you

if you organised an event, you are responsible for the safety of the people in the event.

if they die, you will be arrested. it is just common sense

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incogni2o: 11:18pm On Jan 07
BoldBrainz:
I read half of the comments before mine and I began to wonder if I have lost my sanity.

That is, are Nigerians seriously suggesting that the deaths of 35 children due to a food related stampede that obviously happened due to poor planning, should be ignored so Makinde won't seem like he's pursuing a vendetta?

Are you people high? People's 35 children died for fvck's sake! Someone has to be held able so these things don't seem like our societal normalcy.

You people should stop politicizing everything! You're harming this country!

You obviously are so sentimental, you can't see any reason in all this comments.

Maybe if happens to you or someone close, you will reason correctly.

No one is against when being interrogated, what is being said is why are they being detained till now?
firstolalekan(m): 11:20pm On Jan 07
motymop:


your parent didnt teach abilty in other word responsibility

that is why many of you still behave like kids at 30 years of age

As i have explained to other people that think like you

if you organised an event, you are responsible for the safety of the people in the event.

if they die, you will be arrested. it is just common sense
The common sense that you lack honestly.
Looking4Trouble: 11:23pm On Jan 07
MadamVanessa:
shocked


Chasing after shadows.

The people arrested were not the cause of the stampede, Tinubu inflicted hunger was the cause. Allow these innocent people to breath and let the dead rest in peace.

You too should go and enter a stampede, after you other stampedees where they are, we will help you fight Tinubu.
incogni2o: 11:25pm On Jan 07
motymop:


your parent didnt teach abilty in other word responsibility

that is why many of you still behave like kids at 30 years of age

As i have explained to other people that think like you

if you organised an event, you are responsible for the safety of the people in the event.

if they die, you will be arrested. it is just common sense

Vehicles are parked at owners risk.

What does that mean to you even when security guys are on the premises.

Were the children invited there without thier parents?
Did the food sharing even begin when the stampede happened.?

I guess there seems to be a sentimental side to the way this case is been handled which is us3d in whichunting this case.

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motymop: 11:28pm On Jan 07
firstolalekan:

The common sense that you lack honestly.

people like you are the reason Nigeria will never be better

We have millions of individuals that think like you do even though they went through the university systems

It is a problem we need to eradicate. the brain need some restructuring
ezugegere(m): 11:28pm On Jan 07
maasoap:
Yeah, we heard Mr Lawyer, you're doing the job that you are paid for.
Some people have to be held responsible for the loss of lives and who are the better scapegoats than the organisers?

I don't think the organizers were the ones throwing children over the fence when the gate was yet to be opened

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motymop: 11:35pm On Jan 07
incogni2o:


Vehicles are parked at owners risk.

What does that mean to you even when security guys are on the premises.

Were the children invited there without thier parents?
Did the food sharing even begin when the stampede happened.?

I guess there seems to be a sentimental side to the way this case is been handled which is us3d in whichunting this case.

Your example makes no logical sense

are you equating human lives to that of a vehicle

Vehicles are parked at owners risk shows that a rule was put in place( you are responsibile for the safety of your car)

In the case of this event, no rules was put in place and the organisers who are human didnt try to put law and order in place, therefore the choas lead to kids dying. so the organisers are to be held responsible for the loss of lives.

that is why it is important to have a brain for foresight and safety when planning a big event.

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mauchiz: 11:49pm On Jan 07
bitsAndpieces:


Private beef Kids died and you here talking about private beef? Do u have children??

If we are careless about death of kids, then we might as well just end this world.

People should be brought to justice, so it doesn’t happen again.
Were those children alamajiri?
Don't they have parents?
The parents were supposed to come with there kids, to guide them and protect them.
The organisers cannot be blamed, but the parents or guardian should be blamed for leaving there children carelessly, except there is something they are not telling us.
The parents of the children are to be blamed.
The way people get missing in southwest, people still have mind to go for such events.
I blame the parents.
Ftech100: 12:29am On Jan 08
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sisisioge: 12:52am On Jan 08
Wickedfacts:


Assuming your children died in that tragedy, would you be saying this?

I no go answer you. Go back go read wetin happen. Parents were throwing their kids over the fence before event even happened, before day brea! Stampede occurred before event even started. Instead of us to address root cause of matter, we dey witch hunt people that tried to help. If we wanted to be fair, we should arrest every stakeholders of that event,including the parents.

Meanwhile, Anambra and Abuja too experienced the same, who did we arrest?

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Namigotalktru: 1:27am On Jan 08
bitsAndpieces:


Private beef Kids died and you here talking about private beef? Do u have children??

If we are careless about death of kids, then we might as well just end this world.

People should be brought to justice, so it doesn’t happen again.

Yes. And there is a process for that. This smells like a witch hunt.

If the state government was making basic provisions for their desperate would people rush early in the morning to collect charity?

Who were the security supposed to manage the grounds?

When the stampede happened in Catholic Church who have they arrested?
TechBaron: 2:03am On Jan 08
motymop:


Your example makes no logical sense

are you equating human lives to that of a vehicle

Vehicles are parked at owners risk shows that a rule was put in place( you are responsibile for the safety of your car)

In the case of this event, no rules was put in place and the organisers who are human didnt try to put law and order in place, therefore the choas lead to kids dying. so the organisers are to be held responsible for the loss of lives.

that is why it is important to have a brain for foresight and safety when planning a big event.
If you type a single response again on this thread, thunder will fire you and your entire generation!

Didn't you read where they said the event was slated for 10am, people arrived as early as 5am and the stampede occurred around 7am?

How is that the organiser's fault?

So assuming I invited someone to have lunch with me by 7pm, and the person had an accident on his way to my house by 4pm, you will hold me responsible?

You just dey type "ability" up and down.. Did you just learn the word?

You people will not learn to argue with your brains! And you're even quick to call people names.
bixton(m): 3:06am On Jan 08
bitsAndpieces:


Private beef Kids died and you here talking about private beef? Do u have children??

If we are careless about death of kids, then we might as well just end this world.

People should be brought to justice, so it doesn’t happen again.


So you're blaming those who wanted to give/gift palliatives to those who were considered less privileged for what ?

That means those of us who went to primary/secondary schools where names of noise makers were written and flogged, maybe it was the teacher who flogged those whose names were written should be the one that should be flogged?

It also means where the governor, president, IGP, military heads can't provide security for the popoulavey, then they who are responsible for create security and maintain peace where it could not be gotten, they should be brought to the law to be judged?
galantjoe(m): 3:36am On Jan 08
maasoap:


Everybody was managing their hunger in their various homes until the organisers invited them to their deaths.

You said it all. Another reason why these people are held is because victims were children, the leaders of tommorow. No govt should play with avoidable death of children. Children signify future generations which every go t must protect.

The organisers should be held responsible and made to fave the law. So that it will serve as deterrent to others
Xisnin(m): 4:24am On Jan 08
Mrfeel:


He has no private beef, the ooni of ife just wants to humiliate his ex wife for leaving him, simple as that
It has nothing to do with Ooni.
She is not the first wife to leave!

Makinde has been issuing press releases constantly since the incidents.
He makes it seem as if he was dealing with some at large terrorists who are very dangerous to the society.
It is even Oyo attorney general that is the prosecutor, a man that never shows up in court unless the
governor is personally involved or it is a constitutional issue.
Oluwaseunomo: 5:18am On Jan 08
Arostar2023:


Were the ones that kill the kids? Does your government have an emergency response plan or anything close to that? Your government inflicted hunger on the nation, driving people to the brink of desperation. Some good Samaritans came to offer succor...and shit happened because the people were hopelessly desperate. What's the responsibility of the parents that threw caution to the wind and exposed their kids to unwarranted danger? I heard that some even threw their kids across the fence.

What the government is to do, is to set up a committee of a kind to investigate what happened and how to forestall future occurrence. Not making an escape goat out of some few people.
You're talking nonsense for the fact people died they is no justification for your nonsense
Oluwaseunomo: 5:31am On Jan 08
sisisioge:


I no go answer you. Go back go read wetin happen. Parents were throwing their kids over the fence before event even happened, before day brea! Stampede occurred before event even started. Instead of us to address root cause of matter, we dey witch hunt people that tried to help. If we wanted to be fair, we should arrest every stakeholders of that event,including the parents.

Meanwhile, Anambra and Abuja too experienced the same, who did we arrest?
They asked you a reasonable question and you started talking like a fish brain na why dem dey call una fish brain because no logical reasoning at all, the man makinde already told your type that if you people are animals in your animal kingdom whereby people and children just die for nothing sake without due investigation we dont do that in yoruba land.. You and your follow morons will only lament online nothing you can do oyo state will do its thing
Noblechykk(m): 5:36am On Jan 08
firstolalekan:

So Oriyomi and co caused the death?
The way some of you reason is just shocking and disgusting.
An event is supposed to start be 10 am, SLATED BY THE ORGANIZERS.
BY 5.am, outside of the event place was already filled up with many of the useless and irresponsible parents. Some of them started scaling the fence, throwing and forcing their children inside of the event center THAT WAS LOCKED UP.
And by 7am, stampede started.
So use your brain now and tell us how it was the fault of the organizers.
Don't waste your energy on them. They are consistent in their effort to be stupid

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Noblechykk(m): 5:41am On Jan 08
BoldBrainz:
I read half of the comments before mine and I began to wonder if I have lost my sanity.

That is, are Nigerians seriously suggesting that the deaths of 35 children due to a food related stampede that obviously happened due to poor planning, should be ignored so Makinde won't seem like he's pursuing a vendetta?

Are you people high? People's 35 children died for fvck's sake! Someone has to be held able so these things don't seem like our societal normalcy.

You people should stop politicizing everything! You're harming this country!
You obviously have lost your sanity. 35 children died and that is tragic; no one wanted that. But saying there was poor planning on the path of the organisers is untrue. It is either you don't have the details or you are intentionally lying to your self which is mischievous.
tunwumi: 6:30am On Jan 08
Xisnin:
I suspect Makinde has a private beef with Hamzat.
The court should be allowed to do its job without overbearing political influence.

Your head dey there. There are issues during campaign or some associate of the governors which Oriyomi was directly involved. This is an opportunity to settle some scores.
FIRDAUS3(m): 7:05am On Jan 08
MadamVanessa:
shocked


Chasing after shadows.

The people arrested were not the cause of the stampede, Tinubu inflicted hunger was the cause. Allow these innocent people to breath and let the dead rest in peace.

Is Tunubu your problems?

You can go with placard and tell the world undecided
lagosrd: 7:21am On Jan 08
bitsAndpieces:


Private beef Kids died and you here talking about private beef? Do u have children??

If we are careless about death of kids, then we might as well just end this world.

People should be brought to justice, so it doesn’t happen again.

So they were the ones that brought the kids as early as 6.am for a 10 am program? Try to be reasonable for once . If you organize something like this in your neighborhood you will see how you will be overwhelmed. It's the poverty line that has been crossed.
phineas: 8:12am On Jan 08
I have studied this situation some more,

The parents were not greedy,they only wanted better lives for their children. They were to be given gifts and scholarships,first come first serve basis.I think the scholarship part got to them.

It's sad all around, no one could have anticipated that crowd.... that early... and the desperation.... sad all around
incogni2o: 10:41am On Jan 08
motymop:


Your example makes no logical sense

are you equating human lives to that of a vehicle

Vehicles are parked at owners risk shows that a rule was put in place( you are responsibile for the safety of your car)

In the case of this event, no rules was put in place and the organisers who are human didnt try to put law and order in place, therefore the choas lead to kids dying. so the organisers are to be held responsible for the loss of lives.

that is why it is important to have a brain for foresight and safety when planning a big event.

I guess your sentiments is what makes you not see relationship between security in your premises not reponsible for the car being stolen and organisers not responsible for safety of the children brought.

But if you don't understand, Similarity between the two if you don't understand is that, despite amenities being put in place, abosolute reponsibility is never guaranteed.

I am very sure a scenario will play out in your life that'll make you truly understand the bolded. Sometimes people think right only by experience.
motymop: 12:27pm On Jan 08
incogni2o:


I guess your sentiments is what makes you not see relationship between security in your premises not reponsible for the car being stolen and organisers not responsible for safety of the children brought.

But if you don't understand, Similarity between the two if you don't understand is that, despite amenities being put in place, abosolute reponsibility is never guaranteed.

I am very sure a scenario will play out in your life that'll make you truly understand the bolded. Sometimes people think right only by experience.

There was no amenities put in place

The fact that kids died shows that there was zero crowd control

The organisers hsould face the wrath of the law
motymop: 12:30pm On Jan 08
TechBaron:
If you type a single response again on this thread, thunder will fire you and your entire generation!

Didn't you read where they said the event was slated for 10am, people arrived as early as 5am and the stampede occurred around 7am?

How is that the organiser's fault?

So assuming I invited someone to have lunch with me by 7pm, and the person had an accident on his way to my house by 4pm, you will hold me responsible?

You just dey type "ability" up and down.. Did you just learn the word?

You people will not learn to argue with your brains! And you're even quick to call people names.

You and sense are faraway from each other.

You have no sense of responsiblity, that is why you treat people like shit.

It is suprising that someone like you do not understand the meaning of been responsible for the safety of humans in your care.

IDAT! SPIT!
CorrectionFLuid: 1:51pm On Jan 08
motymop:


It is because you live in a society that do not understand the word ability and responsibility.

Do you realise that you are responsible for people if you organized any event, that is why people put rules in place.

It shows that the organizers are shallow in thinking, putting rules in place prevent lot dangerous stuff from happening.

This long talk does not answer his question which is, why should you be arrested?
CorrectionFLuid: 1:57pm On Jan 08
BoldBrainz:


Guy, are you on drugs?

I initially thought you were responding just for the fun of it. Na now e come clear me say you dey serious. Which kind nonsense yan be this one? These are children we're discussing here for fvck's sake! Wetin you dey even argue sef ?

Resorting to throwing shades shows you have exhausted your arguments. The issue should be investigated yes. But the continued detention of these organizers is uncalled for.

It has vendetta undertone.
TechBaron: 2:18pm On Jan 08
motymop:


You and sense are faraway from each other.

You have no sense of responsiblity, that is why you treat people like shit.

It is suprising that someone like you do not understand the meaning of been responsible for the safety of humans in your care.

IDAT! SPIT!
Ado atata ebot!

So the organizer's should have rented limousines to convey beneficiaries from their homes to the venue, with DSS to guard them.

Again, did you even read that venue was already filled up by 5am, when the event was slated to commence by 10am?

So a company invited you for an interview by 2pm, you arrived the venue as early as 8am, you and other candidates tried forcing your way into the venue, and it resulted in the death of some of the candidates... So their families will now sue the company for not taking responsibility?

Mtcheeewww!
motymop: 3:31pm On Jan 08
TechBaron:
Ado atata ebot!

So the organizer's should have rented limousines to convey beneficiaries from their homes to the venue, with DSS to guard them.

Again, did you even read that venue was already filled up by 5am, when the event was slated to commence by 10am?

So a company invited you for an interview by 2pm, you arrived the venue as early as 8am, you and other candidates tried forcing your way into the venue, and it resulted in the death of some of the candidates... So their families will now sue the company for not taking responsibility?

Mtcheeewww!

we have many daft people like you in this country.

Tb joshua church hotel building collasped killing about 112 people, he was charged to court for criminal neglience

a driver died at ICETE Limited , the family sued, the court awarded the family 10m

Nigeria immigration service organised a job interview, some people died, the families sued the federal government

The ensar, people died during the protest, they sued the Lagos state government and won


many of you are just ignorant but love to argue with no fact.
Luckysbab: 5:34pm On Jan 08
VinnyBaba:


I Clearly do NOT understand them, particularly the boldbrainz fellow up there. undecided

A Man invite ten persons for Job Interview and suddenly 2 of them started Fighting over Stapler or Red biro and this now leads to a death.
The Police comes and arrest the Man for not being able to control the Actions of the Angry Men. 😒

Does this Truly make proper Sense? sad sad

There's no logic in that,from whatever angle you view it from.

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