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Treadway:
CNN and leftist mainstream media are the ones shouting about it. Silly people like Selena Gomez are the ones making a spectacle about it. Why can't everyone shut up just like they did during the Obama times? Shutting up is so darn easy, why is it so hard for the haters to do that? Anyway, the veil of deceit don burn patapata even before the election, so MOST objective people are not deceived by all these shenanigans and nonsense.

Let him deport who him wan deport in peace, no o, lai lai...headline after headline, reaction after reaction, insult after insult and yet he is the one making noise. How ludicrous!. The man said he would do it before being elected, the man signed executive orders on it a week ago. The man hasn't been making noise about it, na una dey make noise.

Can you see the inconsistency now?

Fix culpability where culpability is jare.

Did Obama deport them in shackles and beat them up? Did he authorise taking Kindergartners and schoolchildren? Even taking people from the sanctuary?

Can you see the difference? Your toddler has gone to school but now ICE has got her? How silly,hope they can change diapers and make bottles. What a silly idea.
How is the funding freeze going? Lol,incompetence

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Cyberknight:


Your previous visa and the work rights and other conditions attached to it remain valid once you have submitted am application for another visa at any time before 11.59 p.m. on the day that visa is to expire. Your employer is supposed to check your visa status using a separate Home Office service (called the Employer Checking Service) to confirm that you have an application being processed and that they are allowed to continue employing you while that application is being decided. (The technical description for this permission to remain lawfully in the UK while an application is being decided is called "3c leave", from section 3C of one of the numerous Immigration Acts)

However, it does happen that some employers are unaware of this or are risk-averse and they terminate employees whose RTW appears to have expired irrespective of such employees having put in valid applications which are being processed. This being the case, it is most advisable that one should apply for a renewal/replacement of their visa as early as possible taking into the Home Office's processing times for their visa category, in order to avoid such situations.

If you are a sponsored worker, in theory your employer should have a record of when your visa will expire and should you well in advance to let you know what they'll do - either to continue sponsoring you or not. Not every employer is as organised as it should be, so it is up to you to engage with them within that timeframe if they don't get across to you first.

Oh fab!
Thanks for this. I'm just hearing the 3C leave for the first time. I appreciate the detailing 👌

@Zahra29

Please i was informed that i was granted a 10 year Spousal visa route because i dont stay with my spouse. I was informed in the email i didnt meet the 5 year Partner route under Paragraph 1.1a,b,c.

I indicated i partly stay with her as i have to always travel for work to London from Manchester. I included all train, bus and uber receipts in my application. This makes part of 1.1a. Living together is a fundamental requirement of the spouse visa, however, there are exceptions when a partner has to travel for work.

It was stated i applied in 9th May, 2024. However, I applied online on 20th October and did my Biometrics on 15th November. Comes off as a mix up.

1.1b states that The applicant must be in the UK with valid leave to remain, except where exceptions apply. I was covered by 3C Immigration act of 1971. My visa only expired on the 9th of January and i did my biometrics on the 15th of November, I dont understand why i was considered as not having a valid leave to remain.

1.1c The UK sponsor must meet the minimum income requirement. I alone earn about double of the minimum income requirement. Together with my wife 3x. I was really disturbed how they arrived at this conclusion.

I was told i cant appeal the decision but can i get an istrative review?

Zahra29:


Same advice applies. Based on your response they might accelerate your application but if you don't hear back quickly you could try reaching out to your MP to speed up the decision.

Zahra29:


Same advice applies. Based on your response they might accelerate your application but if you don't hear back quickly you could try reaching out to your MP to speed up the decision.

missjekyll:


Please don't apply on day of your visa expiry.
If I m not mistaken, once you apply, you are given a special kind of leave (section 3c continuation of leave)which allows you to continue work till your application is decided.

But why leave it till the last day? My employers will send a cos 6 weeks before your leave expires. Apply early and avoid stress.

Thanks so much for this. Really appreciate 👍

Treadway:
CNN and leftist mainstream media are the ones shouting about it. Silly people like Selena Gomez are the ones making a spectacle about it. Why can't everyone shut up just like they did during the Obama times? Shutting up is so darn easy, why is it so hard for the haters to do that? Anyway, the veil of deceit don burn patapata even before the election, so MOST objective people are not deceived by all these shenanigans and nonsense.

Let him deport who him wan deport in peace, no o, lai lai...headline after headline, reaction after reaction, insult after insult and yet he is the one making noise. How ludicrous!. The man said he would do it before being elected, the man signed executive orders on it a week ago. The man hasn't been making noise about it, na una dey make noise.

Can you see the inconsistency now?

Fix culpability where culpability is jare.

Everything gone wrong is always blamed on the media and leftism that’s what any irresponsible govt does including freezing of federal funding for citizens who I guessed they are immigrants too and need to suffer. Very shallow analysis!

missjekyll:


Did Obama deport them in shackles and beat them up? Did he authorise taking Kindergartners and schoolchildren? Even taking people from the sanctuary?

Can you see the difference? Your toddler has gone to school but now ICE has got her? How silly,hope they can change diapers and make bottles. What a silly idea.
How is the funding freeze going? Lol,incompetence

you've just proven my point. You're making noise about it right now. If we could go back in time, Obama likely did all these you itemized, but lucky him, there was no noise, cos it's Obama. Someone that was dubbed deporter-in-chief, but hey cos he is liked, no furore. Your bias dey so glaring. Lol

Again as you have just proven, Trump isn't making noise. Trump haters and leftist mainstream media are. That much is clear to see.

Goke7:


Everything gone wrong is always blamed on the media and leftism that’s what any irresponsible govt does including freezing of federal funding for citizens who I guessed they are immigrants too and need to suffer. Very shallow analysis!

shey you sha don agree now, say na una dey make noise and dey react.

You can make noise and react, no lele, na fundamental human right, but no dey lie on top omolomo Oluwafemi Trump. Na una dey make noise not him, shikena. Na the Koko wey I wan drop be that

Nobody is saying anything about the large number of illegals/ of dangerous gangs and other criminals that have been arrested and quashed in the last 48hrs alone by this same ICE. Agenda must agend! Smh

Treadway:
shey you sha don agree now, say na una dey make noise and dey react.

You can make noise and react, no lele, na fundamental human right, but no dey lie on top omolomo Oluwafemi Trump. Na una dey make noise not him, shikena. Na the Koko wey I wan drop be that

where is the lie here, you will blame the media too for misspelling Colombia in a white house statement or a President of an advanced nation saying condoms were used in making bombs in Gaza, there is a lie in that one too abi, or should we blame the media and leftists for opening the mouth of a president to spew trash, kontinu!

Goke7:


where is the lie here, you will blame the media too for misspelling Colombia in a white house statement or a President of an advanced nation saying condoms were used in making bombs in Gaza, there is a lie in that one too abi, or should we blame the media and leftists for opening the mouth of a president to spew trash, kontinu!

make dem continue na. See if that changes anything, esp now wey people eye don even open.

Ps: I'll pick a loose cannon over a deceitful snake any day.

Mark sef don follow chop koboko. Facts over emotions🤣. I trust CNN and the view to spin something out of even this in not too long

Treadway:
make dem continue na. See if that changes anything, esp now wey people eye don even open.

Ps: I'll pick a loose cannon over a deceitful snake any day.

Mark sef don follow chop koboko. Facts over emotions🤣. I trust CNN and the view to spin something out of even this in not too long

Baba needs the money right now as he's broke with all the legal fights he's been involved in over the years, no wonder he went after federal funding in the guise of curbing waste.

Goke7:


where is the lie here, you will blame the media too for misspelling Colombia in a white house statement or a President of an advanced nation saying condoms were used in making bombs in Gaza, there is a lie in that one too abi, or should we blame the media and leftists for opening the mouth of a president to spew trash, kontinu!

That $50 million condoms thing is funny.

It has been walked back by the White House themselves but it’s still being reported by mainstream right-leaning outlets as if it was anything other than the completely idiotic statement it was - see https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14339691/amp/donald-trump-condoms-gaza-bombs.html

And you know what’s even funnier? So many people believe it and have been circulating it. Just look at the comments on that article. These people seriously believe it and will not even do 30 seconds of googling to realize it’s nonsense. And these are the same people who accuse others of listening to ‘MSM’ and ‘fake news’.

Tomorrow when there’s another riot attacking non-white people I won’t be shocked that one of the “underlying causes” some of the criminals will parrot is that millions of their money is being spent on condoms in Gaza.

By the way, one of the things I realized from following the discourse around the riots (and on subsequent issues like this) on various platforms was that I had grossly overestimated the mean intelligence in certain quarters.

Goodenoch:


That $50 million condoms thing is funny.

It has been walked back by the White House themselves but it’s still being reported by mainstream right-leaning outlets as if it was anything other than the completely idiotic statement it was - see https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14339691/amp/donald-trump-condoms-gaza-bombs.html

And you know what’s even funnier? So many people believe it and have been circulating it. Just look at the comments on that article. These people seriously believe it and will not even do 30 seconds of Googling to realize it’s nonsense.

Tomorrow when there’s another riot attacking non-white people I won’t be shocked that one of the “underlying causes” some of the criminals will parrot is that millions of their money is being spent on condoms in Gaza.

By the way, one of the things I realized from following the discourse around the riots (and on subsequent issues like this) on various platforms was that I had grossly overestimated the mean intelligence in certain quarters.

It's even the white house press secretary who spewed the $50m condom trash and President kuku add jara on top with the bomb-making magic. What a combo! It nicely played out like that of the Haitians eating the pets mantra and was nicely confirmed by the Vice President.

That's how they keep their base busy. Just a bunch of comedians! We ain't see anything yet, na we go tire sef. I too overestimated their intelligence.

Zahra29:


A long story just to it that the UK economy is still one of the best performing in Europe in spite of the many challenges it has faced, including the own goal Brexit. A recent poll showed that majority Brits would now vote in favour to remain/re, as experience has since shown that the grass was much greener where we were.

The economy is not showing resilience due to record levels of migration.

Some Caribbean countries have been discussing reparations since I was a little girl. At this point, it's become friendly sparring over a cup of tea. Nothing new.

Every country needs China now, even the US, though it likes to deny it. Difference is that some countries are literally allowing China rob them blind.

"Some deal with Nigeria" - not the first time or the last. Besides didn't Nigeria just sell off some mines to ? I wonder what Nigerians are getting in return for this "investment". Any insight on this?

As for Canada, when you move over you'll quickly come to realise that they are in far greater need of your AI generated advice. Lol

AI generated .. hehe. Not surprised. When boxed and unable to address issues, you always come up with these hallucinations - it's either whataboutism, accusing me of hating my fellow compatriots, accusing me of fraud, looking for typos. Now its 'AI generated response'. I'd take that as a compliment.

To issues (tinted with whataboutism)-
Of course, many Brits have learned their lesson but I think they need a biblical 40yr 'wilderness experience' to be sure lessons were well learned. BTW, at what point did you realise brexit would be/was an own goal?

To China, I'm very sceptical of the western narrative about them and a huge fan of the very sensible president of Barbados who has made good statements to this effect. She is also ramping up the narrative on reparations - good woman! As as I've asked a few colleagues when they bring up the loan issue, I'd also ask you - why do you care?
I can't speak for the whole of Africa but regarding Nigeria, Despite China initially making funds available, we dillydallied due to dubious western-driven narratives and did not take good advantage of the desperation of the Chinese to attain global influence. The overwhelming majority of our loans are from western nations/bodies and we've seen that 1 usd from china has proven more beneficial than 10usd from the west. But then, after all the shenanigans by Parliament, I wasn't expecting Rachel Reeves to queue for Chinese aid behind Museveni. Thankfully, she got something- the new Heathrow runway would be partly funded by China. They can start advising themselves now.

Mines to ? I see that has been sensibly addressed. And to add- I'm all for sensible foreign investment.

You keep mentioning Canada- I wonder if you're seeking to throw jibes. I don't see them as any different from the UK - they are another country with different opportunities for me to exploit. I see myself as a global citizen and whether Can, UK, U.S. Aus e.t.c I don't care- it's my goals I'm bothered about and would contribute to any mix of suitable nations to get there.

missjekyll:
You ed Brexit? Lord give me strength!

You are invested deeply in this country and you Brexit?
I m interested in your reason....

*long post

As a head of the EU once said, the EU is a beautiful garden... I'd add, its one well walled and only benefits those within.
Brexit was one of the best things that happened to commonwealth interested in remaining in the UK. To be clear, I wasn't here during the vote but on arrival and paying attention, it didn't take long to see the benefits. I'd list;

* Pre-brexit, there was the RLMT (resident labour market test). This meant that before giving a job to a migrant, it must be shown that there was no one in the local market who was suitable- major issue was that 'local market' was any EU citizen who applied. This was even the case in the medical field as regards to specialist/GP training where international docs already in the NHS but on a visa were largely limited to whatever was left after the Brits/EU citizens had applied irrespective of skill. This caused significant stagnation to many colleagues who came much earlier.

* Loads of uni students came from the EU hence it was easy for the government to close the PSW pathway and ship out others once studies were done. Some students weren't even allowed to see thrir graduation. The PSW today, is thanks to Brexit.

* Care was traditionally filled up by EU migrants. The visa pathway and opportunities it gave many was thanks to Brexit.

* Group attainment - this far superceeds individual attainment or personal investments. As a Nigerian/black person, you want to see like folks doing well. This can only be achieved when you have the right cohort. No doubt, many who came recently would go on to do very well for themselves in the coming decades.

Even for the government

* Brexit meant Britain was opened to global talent. Everyone who isn't Brit has a relatively fair playing field and local companies can go for the global best.

*UK is well sought after and Brexit allowed the government commoditise migration. It's now a revenue generating stream with visa income increasingly used to fund public services be it the NHS, civil service pay or even new police officers (projected). Just look at the visa pathway for some EU countries and you'd wonder.

* Whether its funding unis and keeping local fees low or keeping social and care costs from spiralling- migration has helped regulate costs in the current economy. A good balance is important.

* Diversity- I live in a county that's 95% white. A reason I haven't left is due to the changing demography. Our local group has gone from tens to several hundreds, we have a better knit community with regular meetups, kids see like faces in their school, we have African shops and even a restaurant. I a Jamaican lady almost break down in tears seeing African kids playing together in church - she recounted how there were only 3 black folks in the town when she arrived decades back and what her kids (though mixed) ed thru

* Kind of migrants- pre-Brexit, many EU folks could strole in and out with access to services right away. Today, migrants are forced to contribute more than their fair share before even coming in, have to meet strict criteria and show that they would be good nembers of the society before given longterm stay. One can argue that may be better for the country. Time would tell.


The UK needs migrants as the last few decades have demonstrated. It is better for the economy that that migrant pool is global rather than a select few. There is a reason despite its struggles hurried the ittance of over 400k folks recently. Record levels of immigration has helped the UK economy stay afloat.

The downside is that leaving the EU makes the UK a loner in a changing world, also it limits access to the EU market which is huge. Sure, the UK was a vital member of the EU but they overstated their importance. These are not the days of Rule Britania. You can't eat your cake and have it.

My issue is that many who voted Brexit had an overinflated view and never saw these. They felt they'd 'control their borders', sleepwalk into favourable deals and still benefit from the EU without paying the price.

Hi Everyone.

Please can someone signpost me to a provider where I can get Prince 2 certification done (including the exams) at an affordable cost? Thanks

Goke7:


And now they are complaining about ilr for same workers. abeg I don tire jare

Low wage workers equals low prices of groceries if anyone is in doubt they should ask the US right now

On this, see GB news has picked up where Telegraph left on. Whether they like it or not, those hundreds of thousands of care workers (and their current family + future kids) would be fellow compatriots before this parliament is over.
Most still dont know many can vote even.

jedisco:


On this, see GB news has picked up where Telegraph left on. Whether they like it or not, those hundreds of thousands of care workers (and their current family + future kids) would be fellow compatriots before this parliament is over.
Most still dont know many can vote even.

GB News has become the Fox News in the UK

You think our care workers send anybody papa, let them apply for ilr first, make I see who wan deny them

lovelysofa:
Hi Everyone.

Please can someone signpost me to a provider where I can get Prince 2 certification done (including the exams) at an affordable cost? Thanks

"Affordable" is a relative term.
Try The Knowledge Academy.
I'd recommend you self-study and just pay for the exam directly. Its about 500 pounds.
A whole lot of what you have to learn is easy to understand.

Prince 2 tends to be something more useful in the public sector these days, I'd say.

Zahra29:

Farm workers are on a seasonal visa post Brexit, not a long term visa route.

That's not the point. Why grant 40k visas to seasonal workers who'd be paid low wages and could be exploited when we have a teeming number of British youths who could pick fruits? Those workers are reducing pay in the sector. The government should rather let shortages ensue so farmers pay the right wage for British labour. Innit?

Of the 100k care visas, how many were subsequently revoked when checks were tightened following revelations of rampant abuse and CoS racketeering - which was unexpected and unprecedented on the work permit route.

Relatively very few (as most in the community/sector know). Also, most who had their visas cancelled were subsequently able to secure sponsorship elsewhere.

Care visa issuance is now significantly lower, at a more reasonable level that meets real industry needs, without exploding migration figures. There is still a lot of underground scamming going on unfortunately where individuals are paying for CoS that then turns out to be fake.

This was only going to happen and aside limiting dependents was welcomed. Another concern is why it took so long deapit the governmentbeing well in the know. Jobs in the care sector are now becoming more available (like times past) with many carer now being chased around for shifts. In my current group, I've seen a few ads of care facilities seeking willing candidates for immediate sponsorship.

As I highlighted before, the oddity of the last immigration system was than many who used part of their school fee to secure a care visa would ultimately have an easier route to stay. Some have pivoted out of care to toter roles or even got an NHS role. Whereas, most students were shafted manytimes over mainly via schoolfees and PSW with many having to subsequently pay to secure care visas after their studies.

Goke7:


GB News has become the Fox News in the UK

You think our care workers send anybody papa, let them apply for ilr first, make I see who wan deny them

Don't be surprised that what Farage would campaign on at the next election -make pathway to ILR 10 years.

Just like with Trump- many are more interested in humiliating migrants than in lower numbers

jedisco:


*long post

The UK needs migrants as the last few decades have demonstrated.

Serious bone of contention there.
I've expatriated myself from Nigeria to this country, but I'd argue that the UK does not need the levels of migration it's had over the last few decades. However, its owners do, and that's why once the Tories had turned off the tap of cheap but ultimately-not-cheap labour from eastern Europe/the EU, they quickly turned on the tap of really cheap cheap labour from the rest of the world.

The people who own and run this country need more and more incoming labour to keep wages down and latterly to keep their property values high. That's all it is - venality and self-serving on a par with the lowest office-holder in any given publicly-derided-as-corrupt country.

Cyberknight:


Serious bone of contention there.
I've expatriated myself from Nigeria to this country, but I'd argue that the UK does not need the levels of migration it's had over the last few decades. However, its owners do, and that's why once the Tories had turned off the tap of cheap but ultimately-not-cheap labour from eastern Europe/the EU, they quickly turned on the tap of really cheap cheap labour from the rest of the world.

The people who own and run this country need more and more incoming labour to keep wages down and latterly to keep their property values high. That's all it is - venality and self-serving on a par with the lowest office-holder in any given publicly-derided-as-corrupt country.

So who do we blame in the end? The same immigrants who didn't force their way in and continue to be objects of political manipulation.

In other news, a member of the Russell group and the biggest uni in Wales would cut 400 more jobs and close their nursing department. This is despite an increased fee for local students set to come in this year. For perspective, this uni has over 1000 nursing students and Wales is short of over 2000 nurses. In future, I wonder how the government tends to fill roles in nursing which is in shortage around the globe- migration I guess. Sure they said they 'hope' to distribute the numbers but isn't it easier to fund the current structure

Guess who/what is mainly being blamed? International students.
I being told here that IS contribute only 2% to unis funding and that it'd be mushroom schools and obscure courses affected.

2000 international students might have been all that was needed to keep that department going.

jedisco:


Don't be surprised that what Farage would campaign on at the next election -make pathway to ILR 10 years.

Just like with Trump- many are more interested in humiliating migrants than in lower numbers

that's all they have to offer, empty heads with no pragmatic solutions to increase local productivity that advance society.

jedisco:
In other news, a member of the Russell group and the biggest uni in Wales would cut 400 more jobs and close their nursing department. This is despite an increased fee for local students set to come in this year. For perspective, this uni has over 1000 nursing students and Wales is short of over 2000 nurses. In future, I wonder how the government tends to fill roles in nursing which is in shortage around the globe- migration I guess. Sure they said they 'hope' to distribute the numbers but isn't it easier to fund the current structure

Guess who/what is mainly being blamed? International students.
I being told here that IS contribute only 2% to unis funding and that it'd be mushroom schools and obscure courses affected.

2000 international students might have been all that was needed to keep that department going.

They should go and meet Braverman (who is now ready to wash plates for Trump on top Chagos Islands matter) for funding.

Goke7:


So who do we blame in the end? The same immigrants who didn't force their way in and continue to be objects of political manipulation.

That's the beauty of the whole thing - the rulers gaslight the ignorant public and scapegoat us in the process.
Farage might win in 29, but all he'll do is make headline changes such as Sweden's just done, make some Trumpian moves, then he'll listen to the ultimate masters and be guided accordingly.

Cyberknight:


Serious bone of contention there.
I've expatriated myself from Nigeria to this country, but I'd argue that the UK does not need the levels of migration it's had over the last few decades. However, its owners do, and that's why once the Tories had turned off the tap of cheap but ultimately-not-cheap labour from eastern Europe/the EU, they quickly turned on the tap of really cheap cheap labour from the rest of the world.

The people who own and run this country need more and more incoming labour to keep wages down and latterly to keep their property values high. That's all it is - venality and self-serving on a par with the lowest office-holder in any given publicly-derided-as-corrupt country.

There could be argument for pros and cons.
I don't think there is a large conspiracy by a few people.
The issue It seems is that most westerners approach the migration issue as do we want more migants or not.. whereas the actual question is different- it's do we want to pay higher general and council tax to fund care needs? do we want to pay more for uni fees? do we want to pay more for local fruits and veg? Are we ok to tax the working young to the teeth to fund the ever rising number of seniors (a number growing by 300k every year)? e.t.c

The issue with the UK I belive is that majority of the general public think its not needed and kudos to them have consistently voted in that light for over 20yrs whereas when politicians weigh the alternatives, they know migration is the easier one. Its down to this that the conversation hasn't moved on to how many are needed. If this was the case, Brexit wouldn't have happened.

Goke7:


They should go and meet Braverman (who is now ready to wash plates for Trump on top Chagos Islands matter) for funding.

Hmm. Thanks to Kemi, I haven't heard from her in a while... what story are you upto?

Cyberknight:


"Affordable" is a relative term.
Try The Knowledge Academy.
I'd recommend you self-study and just pay for the exam directly. Its about 500 pounds.
A whole lot of what you have to learn is easy to understand.

Prince 2 tends to be something more useful in the public sector these days, I'd say.

Thank you.

Please do you know where I can get free materials I can use to self study?

Kromium:

@Zahra29

Please i was informed that i was granted a 10 year Spousal visa route because i dont stay with my spouse. I was informed in the email i didnt meet the 5 year Partner route under Paragraph 1.1a,b,c.

I indicated i partly stay with her as i have to always travel for work to London from Manchester. I included all train, bus and uber receipts in my application. This makes part of 1.1a. Living together is a fundamental requirement of the spouse visa, however, there are exceptions when a partner has to travel for work.

It was stated i applied in 9th May, 2024. However, I applied online on 20th October and did my Biometrics on 15th November. Comes off as a mix up.

1.1b states that The applicant must be in the UK with valid leave to remain, except where exceptions apply. I was covered by 3C Immigration act of 1971. My visa only expired on the 9th of January and i did my biometrics on the 15th of November, I dont understand why i was considered as not having a valid leave to remain.

1.1c The UK sponsor must meet the minimum income requirement. I alone earn about double of the minimum income requirement. Together with my wife 3x. I was really disturbed how they arrived at this conclusion.

I was told i cant appeal the decision but can i get an istrative review?

Sorry to hear this. From what you've said, it definitely sounds like some mistakes have been made by the caseworker.

You should have the right to an istrative review - it's usually 14 days from the decision date. The details should be towards the bottom of the letter or email. Are you able to engage the services of a lawyer to assist with drafting and filing the review?

jedisco:


Hmm. Thanks to Kemi, I haven't heard from her in a while... what story are you upto?

she's blaming peasants from developing countries for the grooming gangs so nothing new there jor