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GloriousGbola:


it happens all the time in projects and you have definitely experienced it before. where you try to avoid the obvious solution because running it will be a pain in the ass and a significant disruption

last month, my system had an issue brought about by windows upate. i tried to fix it, and then the system refused to boot. i spent over 24 hours trying to fix the issue before i surrendered and reinstalled windows. because a reinstall is far more disruptive. we had the same issue ona project. the solution would require that we did extensive and expensive civil works. but after we tried everything else, we had no choice and we had to go with it

To whom much is given, much is expected.

JAMB was responsible for deciding the future of 1.9 million teenagers and young adults. This is the future of fellow humans we are talking about, not some "project". JAMB was 100% wrong to have sat down and decided not acknowledging their fault in the compromise of the result of 20% of the candidates. It is unfair and wicked.

There's no justification for that boss. This is an exam which only happens once a year. For u to appreciate the how grave their decision/indecision was; we can refer to the case of the student who unalived herself over the result.

izzou:




Imagine the line of thought.

Tufiakwa

I once shared a YouTube video explaining Cipolla's law of stupidiiity here.

Who have such line of thought are perfectly described by Cipolla as being Stupiiiid. They tick all the boxes

Imagine comparing a personal Windows Update issue in your PC with a glitch that significantly imparted exam performance of almost 400K students that sat for the JAMB exam.



A glitch that for the lucky ones means they get to resit the exams the next year, and for the unlucky ones, the trajectory of their lives forever altered cause it means they're forced to settle for courses and universities that should never have been in their path if there wasn't such a glitch. The things people say in defence of their faves and people they align with leaves me shocked atimes.

So the re-take is still going to be conducted and supervised by the same set of Jamb personnel headed by Oloyede 😟😟..

Theflint1:
Imagine comparing a personal Windows Update issue in your PC with a glitch that significantly imparted exam performance of almost 400K students that sat for the JAMB exam.

you know EXACTLY what i am sayuing because there is NO doubt you have not encountered a similar issue during your own business operations . where you have a flawed product for your client that you keep trying to fix because an outright shutdown and correction will be immensely disruptive to everyone and will hit your budget hard

you think you hate jamb now?

jamb is reordering the exams during waec . the person i called has her son doing biology practical today. fortunately he has no waec exam tomorrow. when will he prepare? now take that situation and multiply it. were people not complaining about how children's lives were at risk getting to their centers on time? jamb has a very narrow window in which to cram exams for over 350,000 students at extremely short notice

JAMB is going to have to re engage multiple institutions to renegotiate agreements for use of their centers. some of them already have the sites booked for other engagements. it will be a complete logistics crapfest. also completely out of budget.

you know exactly what i am going on about. dont mass comm geng

CrystalTiger:
So the re-take is still going to be conducted and supervised by the same set of Jamb personnel headed by Oloyede 😟😟..

The assumption is they'd get it right this time around...2 days to retake an Exam is just ridiculous. I'm sure they pushed for 2 days cause it'd mean people would move on from the matter faster, and it doesn't matter what a less than 48 hrs notice would mean for the students, wards, or performance in the exams.

GloriousGbola:


you know EXACTLY what i am sayuing because there is NO doubt you have not encountered a similar issue during business operations . where you have a flawed product for your client that you keep trying to fix because an outright shutdown and correction will be immensely disruptive

you think you hate jamb now?

jamb is reordering the jamb exams during waec exams. the person i called has her son doing biology practical today. fortunately he has no exam tomorrow. when will he prepare? now take that situation and multiply it. were people not complaining about how childrens lives were at risk getting to their centers on time? jamb has a very narrow window in which to cram exams for over 350,000 students.

JAMB is going to have to re engage multiple institutions to renegotiate agreements for use of their centers. some of them already have the sites booked for other engagements. it will be a complete logistics crapfest. also completely out of budget.

you know exactly what i am going on about. dont mumu geng

The window isn't as narrow as you're making it seem, with proper planning they can fix the exams withour any major disruption to the children and I'm sure the kids would take the inconvenience it'd give in their exam preparations over not getting the right score. There's usually a small Window between WAEC and NECO, they can even squeeze it there, or even float the exams for an entire month so kids waltz in when convenient and sit for their papers.

The main issue which you're failing to see, for whatever reason, is that the welfare of the children was always secondary, and what mattered most to them was projecting an image of competence (while being incompetent) and saving money.

The integrity of a students score is the PRIMARY thing with which the exam body gets judged, if they fail at that, even for 100 children, then it was a failure, not to mention that being an issue for over 400K children.

The logical crapfest is the nation missing out on doctors, engineers, economists, and other professionals that should have been in the system a year early or that JAMB cannot be trusted and that people in positions of authority are fine with children from particular states and regions of the country missing out on opportunities to access tertiary education. There are many things that'd have been a logical crapfest had JAMB failed to to acknowledge the glitch, and all of those things come before the money and inconvenience that comes with giving the kids fresh and convenient exam dates.

We need s that can engage in second and third order thinking when faced with situiations like this, and sadly, however much of a stickler the Oyedele guy is said to be, he just isn't that guy and the tears was him just acting drama. Him and the guys that were in the know before the third party intervention are guilty of criminal negligence.

Theflint1:

We need s that can engage in second and third order thinking when faced with situiations like this, and sadly, however much of a stickler the Oyedele guy is said to be, he just isn't that guy and the tears was him just acting drama. Him and the guys that were in the know before the third party intervention are guilty of criminal negligence.

His own IT dept said they noticed this error on the 17th.

The Head still went ahead to announce it.

Comes back a week later to cry, and then, there's a particular group that thinks he should be appreciated.



Nigeria is a joke, in toto

Let's hold our leaders responsible
Oya oloyede should be responsible and punished for this glitch
Oh he's done some good work, if they sack him they should just scrap jamb yen yen Yen, yada yada

Omo we have big problem in this country, same old shit all over again just recycling

iamoyindamola:
Let's hold our leaders responsible
Oya oloyede should be responsible and punished for this glitch
Oh he's done some good work, of they sack him they should just scrap jamb yen yen Yen, yada yada

Omo we have big problem in this country, same old shit all over again just recycling

They should scrap JAMB because Oloyede, his Starboy was incompetent

I thought I was the only one who saw it.

OasisX:


.....perhaps in your opinion, coz that actually not the problem of the country rather a part that carries no weight.

Instead of appreciating his honesty, una dey roast am like suya. Is this the way to actually correct the wrongs?! Others who might wish to follow his step incase they make mistake would have a rethink.

JAMB made a terrible mistake, agreed. Prof. Oleyede its it, honorable deed. There will be a resit, great! What else una want?!

You of all people shouldn't be saying this na cruise aside. How can you say being able in leadership position carries no weight eh

These corrupt leaders hear things like this and are enboldened to act anyhow because nobody will hold them able especially the people they're serving.

afrodoc2:


Yeah, i have heard great things about him for years now.

I think he allowed his reputation to cloud his judgement in this case. He was so concerned about maintaining his reputation for excellence that he neglected to do the right thing at the right time on this occasion but ended up staining his own white more.

That is why he was crying. Simple thing he could have done to prevent calamity at the onset, he did not do.

Abeg Abeg.

If anything, the bolded made him suspicious to me.

Why did it have to be in front of the cameras? Was he just realizing it then

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I get the point you're trying to make but let's be honest if he were in a saner system we all aspire to he would have resigned yesterday.

The actions of the institution that he leads have negatively impacted the lives of significant number of students including that poor girl in Ikorodu who committed suicide.

OasisX:


.....perhaps in your opinion, coz that actually not the problem of the country rather a part that carries no weight.

Instead of appreciating his honesty, una dey roast am like suya. Is this the way to actually correct the wrongs?! Others who might wish to follow his step incase they make mistake would have a rethink.

JAMB made a terrible mistake, agreed. Prof. Oleyede its it, honorable deed. There will be a resit, great! What else una want?!

izzou:


What is honest about knowing there was a glitch that affected 379k people since the 17th, and still lying about the results?

Ehn?

Honesty indeed.

Crisis Management 101 at Exec level:

1st step - Can we get away with it

NO - move to 2nd step

2nd step - Can we identify all centres and candidates affected

YES - but will take 2 weeks - 2 weeks later, move to 3rd step

3rd step - Can we remark all papers affected by the random shuffling - MAYBE - will take 1 week to find out

1 week later. . . cannot remark the papers, move to 4th step

4th step - inform Minister of Education who now needs 1 week to position with Tinubu, including how to communicate to public and budget provision for resits

1 week later

5th step - it to public having completed all steps prior and having made provisions for resit at budgetary and operational level

Na so 4 weeks take waka

I have been in this position few times, the last thing you want to do is it error without having the solution to hand.

Ibeme:


Crisis Management 101 at Exec level:

1st step - Can we get away with it

NO - move to 2nd step

2nd step - Can we identify all centres and candidates affected

YES - but will take 2 weeks - 2 weeks later, move to 3rd step

3rd step - Can we remark all papers affected by the random shuffling - MAYBE - will take 1 week to find out

1 week later. . . cannot remark the papers, move to 4th step

4th step - inform Minister of Education who now needs 1 week to position with Tinubu, including how to communicate to public and budget provision for resits

1 week later

5th step - it to public having completed all steps prior and having made provisions for resit at budgetary and operational level

Na so 4 weeks take waka

I have been in this position few times, the last thing you want to do is it error without having the solution to hand.

He announced a result already. Something that was wrong and did not exist

If JAMB had delayed announcing the result, then I can understand you perfectly. If he had also announced the results and left that of the affected centres, fine

He announced a result for 379k candidates that did not exist.

Ibeme:


Crisis Management 101 at Exec level:

1st step - Can we get away with it

NO - move to 2nd step

2nd step - Can we identify all centres and candidates affected

YES - but will take 2 weeks - 2 weeks later, move to 3rd step

3rd step - Can we remark all papers affected by the random shuffling - MAYBE - will take 1 week to find out

1 week later. . . cannot remark the papers, move to 4th step

4th step - inform Minister of Education who now needs 1 week to position with Tinubu, including how to communicate to public and budget provision for resits

1 week later

5th step - it to public having completed all steps prior and having made provisions for resit at budgetary and operational level

Na so 4 weeks take waka

I have been in this position few times, the last thing you want to do is it error without having the solution to hand.

Thank you jare.

Simplifying for mass comm geng

How can we unfk this fk up situation with minimal fallout?

Segedinho:



I think those guys can still transmit the bitterness into real words


The hatred speech is too negative to be ignored

You’re right but most of those involved are youths who don’t have much things doing and would rather stay online to catch up with the trends

The war na impossicant sha

Theflint1:
Imagine comparing a personal Windows Update issue in your PC with a glitch that significantly imparted exam performance of almost 400K students that sat for the JAMB exam.



A glitch that for the lucky ones means they get to resit the exams the next year, and for the unlucky ones, the trajectory of their lives forever altered cause it means they're forced to settle for courses and universities that should never have been in their path if there wasn't such a glitch. The things people say in defence of their faves and people they align with leaves me shocked atimes.

izzou:




They should scrap JAMB because Oloyede, his Starboy was incompetent

I thought I was the only one who saw it.

I don't even understand if these people type with serious face or just playing with us
There was jamb before oloyede and there will be jamb after him, what of he kpai jamb should also kpai with him because he's the best

iamoyindamola:

I don't even understand if these people type with serious face or just playing with us
There was jamb before oloyede and there will be jamb after him, what of he kpai jamb should also kpai with him because he's the best

Yes oh.

OasisX:


.......una get energy to drag him cos he came out to it the error. If he insists there is no error or outrightly ignore the call-outs, we would have got no energy to drag the institution ot him.

What sort of justification is this Shiekh? So covering up lies and not itting to making mistakes is justifiable?

Nigeria My Country

OasisX:




.......a reminder to do the needful again bruh. LOL!

One week don just reach again?

Seun why can't you make this block permanent? You mean I have to be renewing Oasisx subscription on a weekly basis??

In a sane country, he will tend his resignation immediately
It's only in Nigeria if you fail you repeat so that you can fail again

izzou:


Yes oh.

We are in big trouble then

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@theflint1

izzou:


He announced a result already. Something that was wrong and did not exist

If JAMB had delayed announcing the result, then I can understand you perfectly. If he had also announced the results and left that of the affected centres, fine

He announced a result for 379k candidates that did not exist.

Deadline must be met

I am dealing with the same issue right now, two issues in fact

Smaller issue is I noticed an error of £470k revenue overstatement in our March s. That means our results for 2024/25 which auditors have indicated they see no issues with last week is overstated by £470k. So the results we will publish to the market in a few weeks is £470k overstated. Can I get away with it? YES. But it has affected our April result as we now carry that correction into April. I noticed the issue last Thursday but only informed my boss yesterday after I have tracked down all sources of error by line detail and can present a mitigation and an offset going forward so that we get back to budget within 1st quarter of 2025/26

2nd bigger issue is a £5m overstatement in our statutory s from 2021. It's a problem that was corrected in Cash, but not in Dividends before my time. We continued adjusting our Stats at a £5m variance to our ing system each year since 2021 to reflect, but someone actually fixed it in the system in 2022 so the stats are now actually incorrect by £5m, and stats is what the market sees. The auditors have picked it up and noted that last year we said we would adjust our systems by £5m to reflect the statutory s (not knowing we already did that and continued to incorrectly add another £5m on the stats). But the system is actually correct, which means a restatement of our historic dividend in our Statutory s by £5m which is just embarrassing. So I will revise this year's dividend amount down by £5m to make stats match to system. This has been a final query from the auditors for 3 weeks and I am yet to respond despite knowing the problem within 2 days, but have to respond by tomorrow after rehearsing a good story. Thats all part of crisis management and communication.

The game is the game.

Why are auditors difficult to work with?
I have witness auditors and fin.ants always at loggerhead because of simple ing process.
I have come to conclusion these auditors are old skool some of them uses excel and will rather journal for adjustments instead of simple reversal, some don't even know how ERP works
What are they teaching them in school then, I am not an ant but I know for every credit there's a corresponding debit, that simple law open my eyes to .
I think learning ERP should be introduced to them in school


Cc Blueraydick

Ibeme:


Crisis Management 101 at Exec level:

1st step - Can we get away with it

NO - move to 2nd step

2nd step - Can we identify all centres and candidates affected

YES - but will take 2 weeks - 2 weeks later, move to 3rd step

3rd step - Can we remark all papers affected by the random shuffling - MAYBE - will take 1 week to find out

1 week later. . . cannot remark the papers, move to 4th step

4th step - inform Minister of Education who now needs 1 week to position with Tinubu, including how to communicate to public and budget provision for resits

1 week later

5th step - it to public having completed all steps prior and having made provisions for resit at budgetary and operational level

Na so 4 weeks take waka

I have been in this position few times, the last thing you want to do is it error without having the solution to hand.

.......6th Step: then resign your position.

TemporaryHansel:


One week don just reach again?

Seun why can't you make this block permanent? You mean I have to be renewing Oasis subscription on a weekly basis??

......I am gonna be reminding you bruh, don't worry, your mental health is my concern too.