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Ovamboland(m): 10:14am On Nov 07, 2015
charix:
This man is slowly taking Nigeria back to the Stone Age. It's only a matter of time before fire would get looked upon as an advancement in science.

So I want to build a castle above hills when I finally make it in life, complete with medieval weaponry and expert masonry - this whole plan has been killed because we have a president who cannot look beyond his grievance from 32years ago?! I know no Nigerian architect or construction workers who can design exactly what I have in mind. How won't this dictator put that into consideration!

So there are Nigerians this daft living among us...ewo!

So a government wants to put in place measures to ensure more Nigerians become employable locally and by extension internationally and this what the akpu in your head you call brain could come up with

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Goke7: 10:28am On Nov 07, 2015
Justinah4real:
let him resign and do what he was doing b4, raising cows

Obviously u guys are just bitter that's all, pls relocate to Togo if Nigeria is too big for u.

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uridadole: 10:31am On Nov 07, 2015
Mogidi:
This guy is a joke, Buhari is grossly incapable of leading Nigeria.

This was the same failed method Buhari used in the 80s by expelling 700,000 migrants, did it help our economy?
Buhari should be told you have more Nigerians in Ghana and other west African countries than you have aliens here.
Expect tit for tat reactions from our neighbours.
U are grossly ignorant of overwhelming domination of our jobs by foriegners-indians and chinese. Maybe u hv got a job and u don't care. Are nigerians else where dominating jobs? Do other countries not consider their citizens first? Guy wake up
asha80(m): 10:35am On Nov 07, 2015
EPOMA:


In uyo Chinco road are better than berger but Akpabio likes to use berger because he akpabio could loot the state money without being questioned. how can and why should any road in nigeria be costing 10 million dollars a kilometre . tha was roughly the cost of roads in uyo
the standard cost of constructing a km of rd is N250m per km..see whether it is not near what jb uses to do rds
ExInferis(m): 10:49am On Nov 07, 2015
Mogidi:
This guy is a joke, Buhari is grossly incapable of leading Nigeria.

This was the same failed method Buhari used in the 80s by expelling 700,000 migrants, did it help our economy?
Buhari should be told you have more Nigerians in Ghana and other west African countries than you have aliens here.
Expect tit for tat reactions from our neighbours.

He expelled economic migrants not technical expertise.

You people cannot demand job creation and at the same time demand that foreigners flood in to grab all the jobs.

Donald Trump is leading because of his stance on immigrants. All over Europe there's resistance to economic migrants.

Local content is a good policy. Allowing foreigners to secure all job layers is a bad one. We cannot move forward if we insist on only the white man is capable.

Why is your Party so hell bent on making sure Buhari fails? You think playing an active role in wrecking Nigeria further than you've already done will endear the PDP to Nigerians come 2019?

Nigeria is bigger than partisan politics. Where's your sense of patriotism?
Ovamboland(m): 10:58am On Nov 07, 2015
erico2k2:

No disrespect but this is pry school economics you just quoted,lets do a bit of research, tell me one country you k now in the west where the govt drives the labour force.In my ow n view the biggest employers of labour in teh west is not the Gov but the private sector,what our govt should be doing is empowering existing companies to train our youths,The Uk govt pays the private sectors for youth empowerment training ie, they pay for apprenticeship plus insurance.What this mean is the FG would Pay the welder in your street to train your cozen who went to the technical school.If that makes any sense to you.

I see some honesty in your submission but it is painfully ignorant of the realities. The welders who liter our streets, have asked yourself why they don't get the jobs in oil & gas, power projects and we have to bring in Filipinos, Indians etc. to weld pipes? And these imported welders earn in a month what your street side welder struggles to earn in a year. Now it is this same welder you recommend to train the technical college graduate welder. What you don't understand it that the difference between expatriate and welder Baba welder next your house who only knows the rudiments to two metal together and is ignorant of the best practices, is not certified or qualified with appropriate WQP. He is also can't tell what is GMAW, SMAW or TIG/MIG.

That apart, waiting for private sector to train vocations is like shooting ourselves in the foot, as what took USA,UK, about 200 years to achieve using your model is being achieved by China, South Korea, Japan in average of 60 years by massive government investment in technical education and conscious effort to drive competence by challenging local expertise by government guarantee and funding of projects. Japanese government in early 1900's employed thousands of western technical educators to their colleges and formed teams with local engineers to execute t projects. We instead give contracts to foreign firms for projects that could be learning opportunities.

One major reasons investors flock to China to establish factories is because of the millions of trained workers from government technical institutes. They did not invest first and ask government to give them money to train technically illiterate workers. I read a submission by a foreign investor that they don't care anything about tax breaks, import tax incentives than the ability to source competent Nigerian workers. I tell you if investors perceive they can get trained workers locally they will fall over themselves to establish businesses.

Will it be a bad thing if Nigerian expert welders, mason, carpenters can get jobs abroad the way the Filipinos, Indians do all over the world and repatriate foreign currency home rather than keep them ignorant and potential Boko Haram recruits because some believe government should not fund education

The choice is ours we can try the 200 year path or the 60 year path.
Re: Buhari Moves To Block Influx Of Foreign Construction Workers Into Nigeria by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 07, 2015
Ballmer:


Which one are you ?

I don't chant neither do I wail.
All I want is good governance.
I'm a nigerian before all this parties existed
Ovamboland(m): 11:20am On Nov 07, 2015
Mogidi:


If there were Nigerians capable of doing those jobs, Dangote wouldn't go to China to recruit. Lets train enough Nigerians before asking the immigrants to leave, except we want shoddy work, in which case we can ask them to leave and deploy substandard craftsmen to do jobs meant for qualified artisans.

So you're gradually coming to your senses after displaying yourself unclad on this forum. so what is the essence of the article, did it mention deporting workers anywhere or a plan to train Nigerians to be more employable.

The earlier you cure yourself of the Jonathan Electoral Loss syndrome (JELS), the earlier your you can start using your God given senses constructively.
OrlandoOwoh(m): 11:21am On Nov 07, 2015
justmenoni:
Everyone hailing this development are actually dummies, if every countries government are doing this then billions if not millions of Nigerians will be deported back home..


The right thing in my opinion is dat he should implement a favourable minimum wage no matter the job,once that is done then you will see alot of crimes and corruption reducing drastically... Also d FG should implement a law stating that a job should be giving to a foreigner only if there are no Nigerians qualified.


But let the FG also improve our educational system cos both local and international companies in naija knows dat our educational system has lots of corruption in it.... Will u be happy hiring a cultist as ur HR manager,will u be happy hiring a first class olosho as ur receptionist, will u be happy hiring a dullard as ur ant ( I know a country who hired a dolapo has their leader and the result is affecting her citizens yet some Brain deficiency syndrome are on a forum hailing his rule)...


Not true. In the 1970's, Gowon did it with the Indigenization Decree.
Ovamboland(m): 11:31am On Nov 07, 2015
Caponi:
This is one of my expectation of the new government, how do you explain a situation where an indian is flown into Nigeria just to do basic welding, does that mean that we do not have capable qualified welders in this country ? imagine 2000 plus indians working in just one or two plants of our great business man '-------' not to mention also Chinkos - china men also working in some of the plants, hey we need to wake up .....
this people will not even look at you in their country , talk less of employing you to weld for them.
yes we need to regulate the type of foreign workers that we allow to come to this country.
i have also seen the so called skilled foreign workers or specialists from UK, ... who actually do not even know the subject matter in detail, but they come here and pose as expats , ,,,,,,wake up Nigeria .... no more sleeping ......the world is moving forward and we are still in a slumber mode.....

Nice points there, my Indian colleague wanted to know about life in Nigeria and i asked why, he told me his brother in-law got a job offer in Nissan new assembly plant in Nigeria and will be proceeding to London for training before resuming work in Nigeria. That means Nissan could not find a Nigerian they consider worthy of even being trained in London to work in that role in the plant.
This is just to highlight the loss of some benefits to Nigeria of this investment

It's a real shock we have Nigerians arguing against a plan by the government to correct the above anomaly not by deporting foreign workers but by making sure Nigerians are trained enough even to be trainable to work with foreign investors. This will be far cheaper for the investors and make more investors come.
Menace2Society(m): 12:48pm On Nov 07, 2015
Mogidi:


My solution is that the cow herder resign immediately, he should continue with what he's capable of, governing Nigeria is not one of his capabilities.
U are just so irritating your upbringing must be very bad undecided
erico2k2(m): 12:55pm On Nov 07, 2015
Acjohn:

You wey sharp, go tell rickRoss wey say Africa is a country say he dull or go tell all those wey they say all those from the North or Mid belt are Hausa say they Dull.
That said, you will do you self lots of favour and most importantly save your time by chasing objects not shadows.
as far as am concerned that is what you are doing here.
Guy U still Dull.
That moment wen U go Asia and call them Oyibo.or white people.FYI the cleaner of the common areas in my building come from one of dem places yoy think white people live. Stop worshiping them.we are all equals. Just that we are not equals at heart. Never feel inferior where ever and whenever you may be.
erico2k2(m): 1:00pm On Nov 07, 2015
Ovamboland:


Nice points there, my Indian colleague wanted to know about life in Nigeria and i asked why, he told me his brother in-law got a job offer in Nissan new assembly plant in Nigeria and will be proceeding to London for training before resuming work in Nigeria. That means Nissan could not find a Nigerian they consider worthy of even being trained in London to work in that role in the plant.
This is just to highlight the loss of some benefits to Nigeria of this investment

It's a real shock we have Nigerians arguing against a plan by the government to correct the above anomaly not by deporting foreign workers but by making sure Nigerians are trained enough even to be trainable to work with foreign investors. This will be far cheaper for the investors and make more investors come.
You seem to forget quickly.we are scrutinising the policy not the initiator for all its worth.I see sense in it if done properly. Let say here the example you gave Nissan is a private coy. U can never control it's work force.They will simply withdraw.Nissan is Asian so it's only fair the bring their people.what we Nigerians should do is learn from these people when they arrive.same way they are paying to train them in Lonon. Ask most Engineers in Nigeria how many times have they done reverse engineering
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COMPAQ(m): 2:08pm On Nov 07, 2015
redsconsult:
i think julius berger also compounded more to our problem by over pricing and colluding with public officers to loot the nation dry a prj of 5billion naira by ccecc will cost julius berger 15billion of naira... ask akabio and fashola they will tell. that is more reason they have head offices in lagos and uyo.
buhari empower and train our local contractors and dicourage this foreign looters.

The quality of a JB road and a ccecc road are not the same. Nobody in Nigeria comes close to jb's quality.
dollarlander: 3:57pm On Nov 07, 2015
EPOMA:


In uyo Chinco road are better than berger but Akpabio likes to use berger because he akpabio could loot the state money without being questioned. how can and why should any road in nigeria be costing 10 million dollars a kilometre . tha was roughly the cost of roads in uyo

Julius berger is the cheapest construction company from , there are some construction companies that Nigeria cannot afford them. I'm not ing corruption but you need to have your full facts before condemning others.

You need to know the design of the road before summing everything up per kilometer.
Acjohn(m): 5:57pm On Nov 07, 2015
erico2k2:

Guy U still Dull.
That moment wen U go Asia and call them Oyibo.or white people.FYI the cleaner of the common areas in my building come from one of dem places yoy think white people live. Stop worshiping them.we are all equals. Just that we are not equals at heart. Never feel inferior where ever and whenever you may be.
I can't make any sense from what you are saying but saw something like worshipping in your response. With that I know you don't understand what am saying because I never went close to that, so there no need of over flogging the matter. You need to read my response again to understand what I was saying because it far from what you are thinking.
erico2k2(m): 6:34pm On Nov 07, 2015
Acjohn:

I can't make any sense from what you are saying but saw something like worshipping in your response. With that I know you don't understand what am saying because I never went close to that, so there no need of over flogging the matter. You need to read my response again to understand what I was saying because it far from what you are thinking.
Noted
Ovamboland(m): 7:25pm On Nov 07, 2015
erico2k2:

You seem to forget quickly.we are scrutinising the policy not the initiator for all its worth.I see sense in it if done properly. Let say here the example you gave Nissan is a private coy. U can never control it's work force.They will simply withdraw.Nissan is Asian so it's only fair the bring their people.what we Nigerians should do is learn from these people when they arrive.same way they are paying to train them in Lonon. Ask most Engineers in Nigeria how many times have they done reverse engineering

You missed the point, Nissan is through and through a Japanese company and they bring in Indians to work in Nigeria. There is hardly any meeting ground culturally between Japanese and Indians. And the company is in business to make money and will gladly employ Nigerians if it will be more profitable
erico2k2(m): 9:52pm On Nov 07, 2015
Ovamboland:


You missed the point, Nissan is through and through a Japanese company and they bring in Indians to work in Nigeria. There is hardly any meeting ground culturally between Japanese and Indians. And the company is in business to make money and will gladly employ Nigerians if it will be more profitable
You missed the point by a Mile, these are Multinationals, they have bases in the US, in teh UK and in India, they are owned by private investors,.The chair person on Nissan India might be Indian for all we know, the relationship Btwn India and Japan is they are both Asia.ie Nigeria and Liberia.Now let me tell you something you do not know.
The CEO of Nissan India is an Indian called Arun Malhotra.Nissan India was founded 2005, for all you know it might be this branch of Nissan that wants to come to Nigeria and sent an Indian to London.However if it was Nissan Japan don't you think they would send him to japan instead?Guys let us be wise in waht we say.
erico2k2(m): 9:57pm On Nov 07, 2015
lmm4real:


Come are u in Nija, cos from what u saying I kind of doubt u in Nija. JB is one of the worse thing that has happened to the Nigerian construction industry, am in the field and this is privileged info am giving u. They are officially the most corrupt construction firm in Niger.
You are right Im not i n 9ja but like I said earlier, who are those corrupt people, are they not our same brothers and sisters? or you want to tell me its the Germans?don't blame JB, blame our systems,we do not have common Energy laws, we do not have basic standard as to how construction coy should operate, you cannot pay for 10mm of asphalt and expect 30mm.
erico2k2(m): 10:55pm On Nov 07, 2015
Ovamboland:


I see some honesty in your submission but it is painfully ignorant of the realities. The welders who liter our streets, have asked yourself why they don't get the jobs in oil & gas, power projects and we have to bring in Filipinos, Indians etc. to weld pipes? And these imported welders earn in a month what your street side welder struggles to earn in a year. Now it is this same welder you recommend to train the technical college graduate welder. What you don't understand it that the difference between expatriate and welder Baba welder next your house who only knows the rudiments to two metal together and is ignorant of the best practices, is not certified or qualified with appropriate WQP. He is also can't tell what is GMAW, SMAW or TIG/MIG.

That apart, waiting for private sector to train vocations is like shooting ourselves in the foot, as what took USA,UK, about 200 years to achieve using your model is being achieved by China, South Korea, Japan in average of 60 years by massive government investment in technical education and conscious effort to drive competence by challenging local expertise by government guarantee and funding of projects. Japanese government in early 1900's employed thousands of western technical educators to their colleges and formed teams with local engineers to execute t projects. We instead give contracts to foreign firms for projects that could be learning opportunities.

One major reasons investors flock to China to establish factories is because of the millions of trained workers from government technical institutes. They did not invest first and ask government to give them money to train technically illiterate workers. I read a submission by a foreign investor that they don't care anything about tax breaks, import tax incentives than the ability to source competent Nigerian workers. I tell you if investors perceive they can get trained workers locally they will fall over themselves to establish businesses.

Will it be a bad thing if Nigerian expert welders, mason, carpenters can get jobs abroad the way the Filipinos, Indians do all over the world and repatriate foreign currency home rather than keep them ignorant and potential Boko Haram recruits because some believe government should not fund education

The choice is ours we can try the 200 year path or the 60 year path.
I see some honesty in your submission but it is painfully ignorant of the realities. The welders who liter our streets, have asked yourself why they don't get the jobs in oil & gas, power projects and we have to bring in Filipinos, Indians etc. to weld pipes? And these imported welders earn in a month what your street side welder struggles to earn in a year. Now it is this same welder you recommend to train the technical college graduate welder. What you don't understand it that the difference between expatriate and welder Baba welder next your house who only knows the rudiments to two metal together and is ignorant of the best practices, is not certified or qualified with appropriate WQP. He is also can't tell what is GMAW, SMAW or TIG/MIG.
This is the mentality Im trying to correct,U cannot learn welding by the rd side and expect to get job in an oil company.there are more to it.However if you learn ina place like london it is a diff ball game.Im a testimony to that effect.there is more to it

Talking about Govt training people in china,wow have you been to the place?Well I have, I can tell you govt train nobody, factories train people.China has a population of 1.5B, what do you expect, they have the largest manpower on earth.If you ever venture into their factories you will get an Idea of waht Im talking about, factory workers are slaves there, i wont like us as Nigerians to copy such practice where they use humans as robots.

At least we both agreed on one thing, there must be local training,even though you said its going to take 200 years, Now i can tell you it wont,I came to the Uk as a young man who just finished his NYSC and vowed never to work in Nigeria even though my Dad cud av gotten me a job as an Engineer where he was the chief ant then.Since being in the Uk, I have acquired more skills than money so you should forgive me when I see things in a diff light than you,when I look at Nigeria I see unimaginable possibilities,loads of monies to be made, but people back home are too numb to see these.they like the quick path and short cuts.what works for the UK and US might not work for us but we have our own fix to our own problems.I asked a fabricator in PH if he knows what revers Engineering is, he has no clue.That word Revers Engineering is how china became what it is today not cos they are brilliant but they are very clever.They have the ability to make something cheaper than anything else.
Re: Buhari Moves To Block Influx Of Foreign Construction Workers Into Nigeria by Nobody: 6:29am On Nov 08, 2015
charix:

...and nowhere in that quote did it say Nigerian construction workers would learn to build medieval-styled castles. Your point is what again?

Mediveal style castles in Nigeria? For where?
UYCO: 7:28am On Nov 08, 2015
I SAID IT LONG AGO THAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST HND HOLDERS AND RELEGATION OF TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS THAT OUR ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE WHEN OIL WELLS ARE DRIED. READ THE ARGUMENT HERE https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2488157/buhari-willing-end-bsc-hnd#36421658
UYCO: 8:07am On Nov 08, 2015
WE HAVE COMPETENT HND HOLDERS IN WELDING AND FABRICATION ENGINEERING WHO ARE DISCRIMINATED IN GOVERNMENT ESTERBLISHMENT. MOST OF THEM HAVE LEFT THE MINISTRY FOR OIL COMPANIES. WHO WILL TRAIN OUR YOUTHS IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS? THE SCHEME OF SERVICE SHOULD BE NULIFIED AND A NEW SCHEME OF SERVICE PREPARED TO CARRY EVERY BODY ALONG. THIS SCHEME OF SERVICE WAS PREPARED BY UNIVERSITY GRADUATES FOR THEMSELVES ALONE. IT CANNOT BE APPLICABLE TO POLITECHNIC GRADUATES. SAUDI ARABIA CANNOT MAKE SHARIA LAW AND EXPECT IT TO BE APPLICABLE IN ISREAL THAT IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. BSC HOLDERS DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION IS ALL ABOUT AND THEREFORE LACK THE CAPACITY TO DETERMINE JOB PLACEMENT FOR POLITECHNIC GRADUATES.
erico2k2(m): 10:04am On Nov 08, 2015
UYCO:
WE HAVE COMPETENT HND HOLDERS IN WELDING AND FABRICATION ENGINEERING WHO ARE DISCRIMINATED IN GOVERNMENT ESTERBLISHMENT. MOST OF THEM HAVE LEFT THE MINISTRY FOR OIL COMPANIES. WHO WILL TRAIN OUR YOUTHS IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS? THE SCHEME OF SERVICE SHOULD BE NULIFIED AND A NEW SCHEME OF SERVICE PREPARED TO CARRY EVERY BODY ALONG. THIS SCHEME OF SERVICE WAS PREPARED BY UNIVERSITY GRADUATES FOR THEMSELVES ALONE. IT CANNOT BE APPLICABLE TO POLITECHNIC GRADUATES. SAUDI ARABIA CANNOT MAKE SHARIA LAW AND EXPECT IT TO BE APPLICABLE IN ISREAL THAT IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. BSC HOLDERS DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION IS ALL ABOUT AND THEREFORE LACK THE CAPACITY TO DETERMINE JOB PLACEMENT FOR POLITECHNIC GRADUATES.
Try and type in lowercase, for starters
Re: Buhari Moves To Block Influx Of Foreign Construction Workers Into Nigeria by Nobody: 10:11am On Nov 08, 2015
bushdoc9919:

Mediveal style castles in Nigeria? For where?
Read my original post.
UYCO: 4:08pm On Nov 08, 2015
UYCO:
WE HAVE COMPETENT HND HOLDERS IN WELDING AND FABRICATION ENGINEERING WHO ARE DISCRIMINATED IN GOVERNMENT ESTERBLISHMENT. MOST OF THEM HAVE LEFT THE MINISTRY FOR OIL COMPANIES. WHO WILL TRAIN OUR YOUTHS IN THE MINISTRY OF WORKS? THE SCHEME OF SERVICE SHOULD BE NULIFIED AND A NEW SCHEME OF SERVICE PREPARED TO CARRY EVERY BODY ALONG. THIS SCHEME OF SERVICE WAS PREPARED BY UNIVERSITY GRADUATES FOR THEMSELVES ALONE. IT CANNOT BE APPLICABLE TO POLYTECHNIC GRADUATES. SAUDI ARABIA CANNOT MAKE SHARIA LAW AND EXPECT IT TO BE APPLICABLE IN ISREAL THAT IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. BSC HOLDERS DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT POLYTECHNIC EDUCATION IS ALL ABOUT AND THEREFORE LACK THE CAPACITY TO DETERMINE JOB PLACEMENT FOR POLYTECHNIC GRADUATES.
IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, UNIVERSITY THEORY BASED DEGREE WILL BECOME USELESS . MOST DEGREE HOLDERS WILL BE ADVISED BY EMPLOYERS TO TAKE UP DIPLOMA COURSES IN SPECIFIC AREAS TO BECOME EMPLOYABLE. THE LAW OF NEGATIVE FEED BACK WILL HUNT PERPETRATORS OF THIS EVIL DISCRIMINATION. THIS IS THE MAXIMUM POINT OF THEIR USEFULNESS WHERE THE CURVE OF THEIR USEFULNESS IS MOMENTARILY AT REST AND PREPARING FOR DECELERATION OR RETARDATION. IN PRODUCT LIFE CYCLE, IT IS THE POINT AT WHICH YOU NEED TO REBRAND YOUR PRODUCT OR THE DEMAND FOR YOUR PRODUCT WILL EXPERIENCE DECLINE IN A GEOMETRIC PROPOTION AND CONTINUE TO ZERO DEMAND. DEGREE HOLDERS DONT WANT TO REBRAND , THEIR DEMAND WILL DIE A NATURAL DEATH.
Ovamboland(m): 12:45am On Nov 09, 2015
erico2k2:

You missed the point by a Mile, these are Multinationals, they have bases in the US, in teh UK and in India, they are owned by private investors,.The chair person on Nissan India might be Indian for all we know, the relationship Btwn India and Japan is they are both Asia.ie Nigeria and Liberia.Now let me tell you something you do not know.
The CEO of Nissan India is an Indian called Arun Malhotra.Nissan India was founded 2005, for all you know it might be this branch of Nissan that wants to come to Nigeria and sent an Indian to London.However if it was Nissan Japan don't you think they would send him to japan instead?Guys let us be wise in waht we say.

You are still far from the gist, the role the Indian guy is coming here for in not a rare skill or so advanced that we normally should not have it in abundance. But we don't have it because we have neglected technical education and the quality of our higher institutions has dropped seriously. We can only deceive ourselves by rationalizing it or wishing the problem away. You can also imagine how many Japanese and Indians Nissan imported to work in China when it established a plant their and that will show you what i am talking about. Talk of top management yes but it's a shame to import middle level manpower and welders/fitters to assemble cars in Nigeria.
Ovamboland(m): 1:08am On Nov 09, 2015
erico2k2:

I see some honesty in your submission but it is painfully ignorant of the realities. The welders who liter our streets, have asked yourself why they don't get the jobs in oil & gas, power projects and we have to bring in Filipinos, Indians etc. to weld pipes? And these imported welders earn in a month what your street side welder struggles to earn in a year. Now it is this same welder you recommend to train the technical college graduate welder. What you don't understand it that the difference between expatriate and welder Baba welder next your house who only knows the rudiments to two metal together and is ignorant of the best practices, is not certified or qualified with appropriate WQP. He is also can't tell what is GMAW, SMAW or TIG/MIG.
This is the mentality Im trying to correct,U cannot learn welding by the rd side and expect to get job in an oil company.there are more to it.However if you learn ina place like london it is a diff ball game.Im a testimony to that effect.there is more to it

Talking about Govt training people in china,wow have you been to the place?Well I have, I can tell you govt train nobody, factories train people.China has a population of 1.5B, what do you expect, they have the largest manpower on earth.If you ever venture into their factories you will get an Idea of waht Im talking about, factory workers are slaves there, i wont like us as Nigerians to copy such practice where they use humans as robots.

At least we both agreed on one thing, there must be local training,even though you said its going to take 200 years, Now i can tell you it wont,I came to the Uk as a young man who just finished his NYSC and vowed never to work in Nigeria even though my Dad cud av gotten me a job as an Engineer where he was the chief ant then.Since being in the Uk, I have acquired more skills than money so you should forgive me when I see things in a diff light than you,when I look at Nigeria I see unimaginable possibilities,loads of monies to be made, but people back home are too numb to see these.they like the quick path and short cuts.what works for the UK and US might not work for us but we have our own fix to our own problems.I asked a fabricator in PH if he knows what revers Engineering is, he has no clue.That word Revers Engineering is how china became what it is today not cos they are brilliant but they are very clever.They have the ability to make something cheaper than anything else.

But i thought you just said the graduate in welding from technical school should go and learn from the street side welder as your panacea for knowledge transfer.

If you base your knowledge by just what you saw in a simple factory visit i need to say you still have a lot to learn about the dynamics of development. I don't need to visit China before i have an idea of their educational system. And i don't need a visit to china to know any serious organisation doesn't joke with continuous training of personnel if it wants to survive.

But you will be mistaken if you think the companies simple pick ignorant illiterates from the streets and make them employees and then spend months or years to train them to make them useful.
If you also think the growth in China happen by chance or laizzere-fair and not by central and well structured planning then you are still heavily mistaken.
Read this quote from Wiki:
To enable vocational education to better accommodate the demands of economic re-structuring and urbanization, in recent years the government has remodeled vocational education, oriented towards obtaining employment, and focusing on two major vocational education projects to meet society's ever more acute demand for high quality, skilled workers. These are cultivating skilled workers urgently needed in modern manufacture and service industries; and training rural laborers moving to urban areas. To accelerate vocational education in western areas, the Central Government has used government bonds to build 186 vocational education centers in impoverished western area counties.
And this and see bold:
Under the educational reform tenets, polytechnic colleges were to give priority to itting secondary vocational and technical school graduates and providing on-the-job training for qualified workers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_China#Vocational_and_technical_schools

And i noticed already a thing of laziness in your post, you already fear the discipline and hard-work necessary for success in technical work and hope to succeed or compete with a country like China, India, i wish you good luck.
ban007(m): 9:00am On Nov 09, 2015
ban007:



Who would you say is capable of ruling Nigeria? Please give me just one name, try not to look stupid when you do


That's the problem with you half educated people... All you do is create problems.... You can't solve a problem to save your life...

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