Ogori is not an hybrid of ebira and Yoruba,OGORI doesn't have any Yoruba association, as an indigene I can tell you this,no ogori person can naturally speak Yoruba unless they learn it,the older generation were taught Yoruba in schools.
Ogori doesn't historically worship Yoruba gods,they have very minimal Yoruba culture, but plenty Benin related culture.
Yoruba naming convention started after ogori fled to ijebu owo during the Nupe wars and also during colonial times.
Ogori historically married many ebira women,this explains the ebira influence in ogori otherwise ogori has no relationship with ebira.
No family in ogori can trace it's origin in any part of Yoruba land,not even their Yoruba neighbours in okun or Akoko.
The ENI clan particularly recalls it's time in Benin.
There are ogoloko swords in ogori thought to emerge from Benin
Ogori crown is of Benin mould,it has been confirmed as recently as 1979.
What is the “Benin mould” for crowns?
What does the archetypical Benin crown look like.. can you show an example?
Oga anyhow you do it
It's still the same thing,
Onitsha metro is bigger than Lagos in landmass
Buh smaller in population
From onitsha to owerri has almost glued together, same goes to awka
Unless you are blind to see it, check your phone goggle map again
Lol, that’s not Onitsha metro.
That is just a shading of all the the areas with high population density.
If you go to Akwa Ibom state and look, it is the same thing. That doesn’t make Uyo one of the top 5 biggest cities in Nigeria, although it is quite large. .
From Google maps. Onitsha metro stretches to Imo state just like Lagos metro streches to Ogun.
Onitsha metro area is larger than Lagos metro area in landmass but Lagos metro has higher population
Agendist.
Both your maps are not even the same level of zoom 😂
Meaning, do both of you have a prior history on NL.
You probably got me wrong because the "Una" was ambiguous because you weren't sure if it was referring to your people or both of you as the subjects. Pidgin can be like that sometimes, but context is everything.
Abi na, you sef shock? Person wey dey live for fantasy universe. He has been arguing against de facto situations for like 2 days now for "feel good effect" and meagre "likes".
Four main categories of settlement in Anioma land.
* From Eastern Igbo
* Offshoot from neighbouring settlement
* Yoruba Origins (Odiani) and Igala Origins (Oko and Ebu)
* Benin Origins
No need to tell me how you feel when the only hope of your Yoruba kinsmen being linked to an Igbo clan has been shattered by me.
There are two things Nigerians claim online.
1. Being Rich and
2. Being Igbo
So it is no surprise that you want to have a stake in the mighty race. You can do anything even if it means attaching your kinsmen to an Igbo clan in order to claim the clan.
I pity you. "Nigerians claiming to be Igbo online" ... Like seriously, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Any cat and dog cannot come from Awka. Those that come from such noble city wear their identity like a badge of honour like those in Edo state that call their town "Idumoka"
No matter the excesses of Bini in the state, they never hide their identity for any reason.
Now explain to us how you want to claim a full clan that 90% of them speak Igbo, bear Igbo names and still have Igbo names as their town name.
You think incorporating your Olukumi people into their clan will do anything?
Emotions and more emotions.
Long live the Odiani clan of Olukumi people! Including both the monolingual and the bilinguals.
And Yoruba mysteriously turned themselves to Igbo?
Mtcheww.... It is only in Nigeria that Chinedu Okafor whose father is Nnaji Odili will be claimed by Yoruba.
Inferiority complex at its peak.
From Olukumi to Odiani. Very soon Ife will turn to Ụkwụ Nzu
FYI the town''s original name is Eko Efun. Ugbodu's full name is Ugbodumila.
Maybe you can go and tell them that they are from Awka blacksmiths too.
I can see that you really want you people to become Igbo so much that you want to incorporate them into another Igbo clan.
When I told you that the other clan will soon in to make their stay uncomfortable, who do you think I was referring to?
The original Odiani. Attaching Olukumi to Odiani is like saying "Hausa-Fulani". Even if you are don't know how to speak Igbo, you can clearly know that Odiani is Igbo word.
There is nothing like Olukumi in Odiani. Both are different in origin and language. One is indigenous (odiani as the name say) while the other (Olukumi) is a migrant.
The ruling system is now Obi but cultural power rest on the Okpala, apart from Ugbodu and Ụkwụ Nzu that still have a minute Olukumi speaking population, the remaining of the clan speak Igbo of Enuani dialect.
Like I said before, keep pushing, you are helping our cause. Two communities remaining, one clan awakened and one to go.
The way you people switch from ranting to being reasonable can frighten an average man.
So you have forgotten when you were claiming that your kinsmen from Owo are indigenous to Anioma?
You have also forgotten when you claimed that Olukumi is indegenous to Ụkwụ Nzu? A Yoruba being indigenous to a place called "ụkwụ Nzu"
When you decided to shoot yourself in the leg, you started doing U-Turn. Mtcheww... I told you before that you people are just making the stay of your kinsmen in those communities uncomfortable. In this wake of Igbo Nationalism, expect more hostilities on them from the indigenes.
UmuEzechima have started, expect the other clan to very soon.
Yes they are indigenous, as are the Igala and the Bini elements there. Eat your heart out.
I understand well why you are getting your panties in a bunch. The Olukumis are STILL the Odianis. And yes, the Olukumis have absorbed a huge amount of Enuani culture but they don't deny their origins. It is you Igbos from over the fence that do this stuff. Ezechima have not started anything, the relationship between Olukumi and Ezechima is 100% peaceful and cordial. Na only you e dey pain.
Let me even tell you, the fact of the matter is that their villages can never be part of Yorubaland due to the large disconnect and also their now mixed culture, but AGAIN the fact of the matter remains, the place where they are is their land and their communities belong to no one but themselves. Finish.
YinkaOlusesi16:
The Russian millitary force are not capable of threatening the U.S, and no country in the world are capable of threatening the U.S cus the israeli got their back.
lol, for your information, the largest amount or segment ancestry of Jews are Russian Jews.
I am not sure if you read what you posted or understood the map.
Anyways let me explain it to you. The article clearly stated that every living thing in what is known today as Anioma is of Igbo stock although that some influences from:
1. BINI: due to close proximity.
2. IGALA: also due to close proximity 3. Yoruba: Due to the establishment of Nigeria (this one is highly negligible and will be corrected very soon)
Influences mean that the cause factor is not indigenous unlike the fallacy you posted earlier. I don't know what you wished to gain by shattering all the lies you have been vomiting by yourself.
Now, to your map.
You first claimed of your migrants being indigenous but on your own accord decided to post Anioma map referring to the area as "Odiani".
The questions is, is Odiani a Yoruba word?
Why not Olukumi or Oluku?
It is quite funny that you want to use Igbo name to claim origin as a Yoruba man.
I just don't know why you decided to mark your own script and record yourself zero.
The two things you posted already clarify that Yoruba have no stake there.
Odiani is just like Anioma. Both Igbo words to Igbo settlement.
The few Yorubas there are those that have overstayed their welcome. They are in the third generation currently and luckily for them their older ones are still around to locate their houses in Ondo.
Revisionism is highly discouraged in academic circles.
And yes, that researcher said Aniomas are largely Igbo. I don't think I have argued otherwise.... although, the influences from all the afore mentioned groups can not be dismissed.
Unlike you lots, we know our territory although the presence of Ndigbo in those places cannot be overemphasised. Oshodi is technically Igbo settlement but we still respect ourselves.
Alaba was founded by an Igbo man but we still overlook such.
Ndigbo don't fancy claiming another person's land but if one is stupid enough to try it in Igboland, they will be clarified that we are not Yorubas.
The case of Lukumi will be settled whenever they become stubborn. You those Fulani settlements that was cleared in Ebonyi?
They are all older than the Lukumi settlements in Aniocha. So calculate.
They still know their grandparents houses in Ondo.
The case of Lukumi is a legacy of Western Region taken too far. There is nothing known as "indigenous Multiculturalism", don't think that you are discussing with fools.
If you want to claim indigenous to a place, start by renaming it in your language. So far you haven't done that, you are just a noise maker. The Umuezechima that have risen recently to address the madness just woke up and believe me very soon you all will regret ever using your western region to create such impression.
LOL, he can't even write Ụkwụ Nzu.
What else to argue. Anyways the breeze of IPOB will soon get to them.
No need to argue the inevitable.
Imagine creating unnecessary arguments with owners of the land.
Are you this pained!!! omo..
So duty of of your IPOB is killing people. (not like it isn't apparent already)... No wonder there is no sit at home and ravaging squad of UGM in Aniomaland.. Hian! Killer squad. Keep at it, maybe by the time you are done, you can still hav 70% of Anambra intact.
What western region? Was it Western region that also brought indigenous Igala into Igboland?
The spelling of the place is perfectly fine. Some say Ukunzu, some say Ukwunzu. But you aren't even from there so no one is surprised. And like I said, The Olukumis have no problems with all their neighbours. Everyone knows their villages and the Aniomas recognize the intrinsic pluralism of their land and peoples...... it is you, an absolute nobody that is here crying on NL.
The Odiani stand gidigba. It is so funny how in your mind, some unknown fulani camp can be older than a peopled clan called Odiani. You don't even understand the concept of communal land. Every community owns its own lands!
BKayy:
You Yorubas from SW are making the stay of those Lukumi guys in Ụkwụ Nzu, Ugbodu, Ugboba, Obomkpa and Ubulubu uncomfortable.
The natives don't like the way you lots are rewriting their stories. I blame them for allowing such stupidity in the first place.
They want to do one Nigeria with their community. Ndị ara
Listen and learn.... learn about Ukunzu (Eko efun)
Igbo from across river Niger want to claim people village.
In case you don't now, there is an argument between Olukumis (Odiani) and umu Ezechima for antiquity on the land, but both groups respect one another.
They don't own anything.
You mean communities that have Nri and Umu Ezechima descendants as the ruling council and Natives is owned by 50 people from Owo?
Lol. Why didn't you people cede all those communities Awka descendants live in Ondo? or maybe cede Lekki and Oshodi to Ndigbo?
Unlike the case of Delta, Ndigbo actually outnumber other people in the communities I mentioned.
Hahahahaha
Thousands of families with Igala, Olukumi, Isoko and Edo blood abound all over those areas. It's just the facts of history,, don't choke over it.
The day some imaginary awka descendants of 1950 outnumber anybody in Ondo state or igbo outnumber Yoruba in Oshodi and Lekki make I break.... You no even say Okota na Oshodi you wan claim.
It's not my fault you don't know difference between indigenous multiculturalism and non indiginous sojourn.... You will soon claim sabon geri in Kano.
They don't have any single village in Delta.
The hype about those immigrants is done by Yorubas. Those that identify as such don't own the community and are not near to majority in It.
The way you are sounding ehhh, you sound like you want to send all those people back to Yorubaland proper. HBP is real o.
Wetin dem do you? lol, whether you like it or not, they own their communities.... same way the Igalas in both Southeast and anioma own theirs.