Evboesi:
Esan was not studied Ehoo Ozour, the fact that it said it may differ however not in all spellings and pronunciations certainly some of them and the communities that may differ were listed directly
The language that was studied is Edo proper which is Bini,Esan is not part of it
This boy does not deserve a mention he’s from the brown roof tribe.
All the numerous Premier League fanboys disrupting the tranquility of this forum by engaging in impolite insults under the guise of banter. It's important to note that banter does not equate to insults. Madrid will silence any you all!
BERNIMOORE: can you quote me where I said it that Lamidi is the authentic chairman? Or remain a liar forever you guys are turning this LP to Igbo party...we all ed peter obi...check through all my comments... Abure is my guy...
Peter Psquare has always been a loud-mouthed clout-chaser.
I initially did not want to comment on this thread as I've seen a lot ridiculous to even stupid fact that anyone with a basic level of IQ will detect the fallacy. However I just want to let you know it's not impossible to find eyewitness documents or . I personally met someone (although already late) who witness the battle that overthrew Ovoranmen from Benin Kingdom. If you can get the guardian newspaper of January 1, 2000 you will see the interview of a man who lived to see 3 century. I personally know the man in question as he's related to me. Most of the information we got from them are able. Why I'm I saying this? It is possible to get eye witness documents. If you can't get hold of eye witness documents in Oyo then something is wrong with the history. Also another fallacy I see here is that there was nothing like the Yoruba history. What we had was various tribes. It was the British that first brought the idea of Yoruba per se. So when I see Yoruba history here and there, I just laugh.
This thread is quite enlightening. Many intelligent people are starting to realize that the mythical Yoruba past is untrue. Because they already had western education they were able to dupe our ancestors with their treachery and lie, seeking to change a history they were never a part of. We are no longer susceptible to deception. I appreciate your input.
PoloG:
tiny bini should compare theirself with their fellow minority tribes .. We don't know binis exist here in the SW
Whether Benin is small or not, it is undeniable that the Yorubas are a group of former slaves who moved from South America with no history other than a made-up one. It was revealed in this thread by smart individuals. You intended to make fun of the Great Edo people. Lol. Your tribe has this issue, though. You guys choose the other approach, using slurs and name-calling to deviate from the main topic rather than presenting facts to back up your claims.
MetroLane:
Why will someone who can afford $150k to pay as rent yearly still choose to live as a tenant.
Different Stokes sha.
6 million naira and $150k are they the same thing.
Are you dumb, since 6m is chicken change to your friend, let him go and rent Davido's house na, afterall it's Davido's house we are talking about and not your friend's landlord house.
Instead of Nigerian residents, foreigners frequently rent these homes.
Stoplying:
I will never understand Yoruba obsession about my people. They always claim us eventhough we say no, they don't know the first thing , they don't even know their own history, they make it their mission to always misspell our name.
In order to escape their slave ancestry they made a fake past for themselves with some flying super-oduduwa and included us in their story because they need something authentic to stand on.
PoloG:
Instead of this tiny bini people to think of the problem affecting them like how to stop their whorish women from disgracing africa in Italy or their cursed lazy cultist and yahoo boys,
Na to dey compare with people wey nor send them
In Yorubaland, the culture of hookups is accepted. Only in Yoruba land would you witness a woman with a husband and children engaging in hookups. Also a Yoruba man, is the inventor of cultism in Nigeria. All tribes are only playing catch up; the Yorubas are the ones that created 419.
Your argument is childish and deserves no response. No Yoruba is here to prove anything to you. We know our history and culture, we are a great people in Africa and South America, we have fought many wars and built kingdoms and cities of which Bini is just a sub-kingdom of the great Yoruba people, the Egbas, Ijebus Aworis have more settlements area than your over-bloated Bini, we are not I a measuring contest with you, let your Oba deny his yorubaness then I will listen to you
The Yorubas are primarily descendants of ex-slaves who moved from South America. Because they received a western education, they exploited it as a weapon to fabricate history and utilized cunning and treachery to gain relevance. The Oyo-Empire legend is all folklore. You refer to an empire that ruled over Dahomey, Contonu, and portions of the Upper Volta as a sub-kingdom? To overthrow the empire, they had to wage war. You must be joking I guess.
1) when was Ife an empire ?
2) oyo was a small kingdom
3) nobody noticed oyo or Ife as being empires!
4) the body of water is called Bight of Benin for a reason
5) Oyo doesn't even have artefacts
6) which "historical facts" have shown a relationship between the "yorubas and the Edits" ?
7) "artefacts" show a link between Yoruba and Edos ? Are you kidding me ?
Although there are some people whom are from Benin empire but currently identify as Yoruba for the sake of politics: the people of Ondo state and ekiti state are examples.
In order to make the So-called Oyo empire gain credibility, they constantly attempt to link it to the legendary Benin empire. In the early 1400s, the Benins were already a unified and well organized people. We had a bustling trading relationship with the Portuguese and were one of Africa's largest empires. The great Oyo empire was vanished at that time. Just out of nowhere, the vast Oyo kingdom appeared?
'Prospered from 1200 to 1800' does NOT mean the kingdom started existing in 1200!
This 'prosperity' had to do with expansion, commercial activities with increased trading with transatlantic merchants and high activity of slave trading, which abolishment began in the 1800s; the period when the British colonialists arrived.
Similar activities also occurred in the Ife and Oyo empires within this period. These empires, just as the Benin empire, existed centuries before this period you mentioned.
Finally, these arguments are baseless because historical facts have shown a relationship between the 'Yorubas' and the 'Edos'; artifacts and other forms of documented history reveal this. And I've not come across any Edo person bothering him/herself about such issues/topics which are repeatedly opened on Nairaland in order to cause unnecessary arguments.
What Edo needs to focus on today is how to foster development across the State socially, politically and economically in order to be a people to reckon with.
History is not a burden on the memory but an illumination of the soul.
We cannot permit the propagation of a false history. And yes the Edos have always been a force to be reckoned with in all walks of life. You can mention anything, from sports to politics to education. An Edo man was the one who proposed the motion for our independence. As a result, we have been important throughout history. We are a people with a rich cultural history, and when we look back at it, we see there are many gaps and falsehoods that have been spread. This is what we are attempting to correct.
You guys should have controlled your feelings when you left the history which is the bone of contention and started insulting a whole tribe.
I'm sure your negative energy is still tied to your recent election defeat.
Everything is centered around the recent election to you. Many individuals now, who have gained wisdom, recognize the flaws in Yoruba history. Your so-called great kingdom always manages to remain relevant by sharing ties with the great Benin empire. Funny how no sign of the alleged Oyo empire's splendor and greatness remains. Why is the Oyo empire unique while other great empires exhibit signs of greatness? I'm not talking about fictional stories, please.
I don't know if you are aware but the guardian newspaper is not a historical document. You basically quoted unsubstantiated claims from the guardian newspaper.
The history of our region of west Africa started in the 15th century.
Once again, nobody migrated from Ife, Ife was a small settlement in 1912 when the British started urbanising it.
If any kingdom in West Africa was dated 500 BC then there would be thousands of archeologists in that kingdom digging everyday like in Egypt.
I added a snapshot of your comment below.
500 BC. The media will only present fabricated statistics and data. These guys took advantage of being the first educated individuals. The majority of Yorubas are immigrants from South America who were once slaves.
Ife is the oldest Yoruba city. So if Bini and Oyo empire started existing around 1400 years ago (according to the OP), it only make sense to agree that they both migrated from Ife.
Hahaha. The Bini empire started existing around 1200. All the Ife story is fictional.
Yes, Benin kingdom was recorded by eyewitnesses right from the 1400's contrary to Ife. The earliest map of Ife which I have seen is from the 19th century.
And Ife was a small settlement until the British started urbanising it in 1912.
Whereas Benin city was burnt to the ground by the British in 1897, Ife was never burnt down, yet it was being urbanised by the British in 1912.
Apt 👌. I’m glad a lot of individuals are conducting their own research to expose these dishonest tribes. Thanks for sharing more light on this.
1) Witnesses to the burial of the Oba of Benin in the precolonial era have had their testimony recorded on paper in the precolonial era and it was recorded that it took place around the palace of the Oba, the executions of the wives and ministers of the Oba were even talked about. I don't want to add too much details.
2) your "orun oba ado" was built with European cement technology
3) European alphabets are written all around your "orun Oba ado"
4) the fresh painting of a Benin bronze is upon your "orun oba ado"
5) the only place outside of Benin city in which the Oba of Benin is recorded to have been buried is Calabar.
So it is clear that "orun oba ado" is a fake. It is also clear that your "orun oba ado" was created after colonisation and probably quite recently.
Ife is built with fake stories, nobody ever migrated from Ife, I believe the settlement of Ife is more recent than that of Abeokuta which was created in 1832.
Why are Yoruba always telling lies and always trying to dupe other people ?
Yoruba mostly descend from freed slaves whom the European powers dumped on our shores. Those slaves came into our shores with the ability to read and write and a formal education which the locals (our ancestors) didn't have.
So for a period of time, the yorubas (slave descendants) were the most educated and they duped the locals (at a regular basis) to survive. That dupery turned into a tradition.
Today that tradition is still alive amongst Yoruba, it gave birth to world renown 419.
But the problem today is that everybody has caught up with Yoruba in of education, so now we all see you for what you are: a lying 419 culture.
So you should know that telling lies is actually the biggest part of Yoruba culture. Being a good liar is very respectable in Yoruba culture, and it is even celibrated.
Because I've always wondered why there isn't more evidence of the alleged Oyo empire's greatness, like there is for other ancient kingdoms, all hearsay.
I believe that everything about the Yorubas is based on lying and fakery. The entire brilliance disappeared into thin air. The Yoruba empire is rife with dishonesty and lies.
A random person who does not know his left from right talk rubbish and you are swallowing it.
Go home and ask your father or your current oba of benin that who was the first ever oba of benin and where was he from.
Down here is where the head of your benin King being buried in Ife.
It is called Orun oba Ado.
We have the history
Ozuor Ogun gbé. Say Iséé. These are one of the custodians of the Bini history, and not some fictitious story narrated by a bunch of crackheads. If you had watched the Video without any bias you would have gotten a better understanding of the true relationship between the Benin Kingdom and the Yorubas. The Bini kingdom is older than the great Oyo empire. How’s that so??
That wasn’t Yoruba history or Yoruba perspective - it’s the real history of Benin, written by a Benin prince who was a historian/academic. His book on Benin kingdom is the universally accepted one that’s kept at Cambridge Uni, Oxford Uni, Harvard, Yale, etc. I actually read the book at SOAS. You can do your Google to confirm what I wrote.
I actually used to think Benin kingdom was an imperial empire, especially because of the moat and how it’s heavily referenced - until I started reading deeper into its history. Benin kingdom was basically the Nigerian version of the British empire - loud name but very vacuous in ingenuity and achievements. British empire was nothing more than a lot of very cunning, manipulative and marauding pirates that mastered divide and conquer - for looting.
Benin kingdom never really had a strong military due to how it was a victim of so many defeats by smaller kingdoms. Its knowledge of arts - terracotta, bronze and brass - came from Ife and Owo. Its crown was from Ife and the titles for a lot of its chiefs came from Owo. Most of its gods are also Yoruba gods.
I think Benin mostly benefited from its proximity to Itsekiris and the fact that it produced so many great artworks that were stolen and taken to European museums. Those artworks are what gave Benin kingdom the notoriety it enjoys today. But once you take that off - Owo and Itsekiri kingdoms were greater. And don’t ever put Benin and Oyo in the same sentence - imperial Oyo was in a different stratosphere.
Anyway, Eweka was a Yoruba prince and Ekaladerhan died in Ughoton (I believe that’s a town in Benin).
Most of the historical s are fictional. Watch this!
Godjone:
The yoruba people cannot migrate from Benin and still be control of Six states while bini exist only in foul local government area
An internal conflict in the vast Benin kingdom caused them to lose control of several of its domains, including Dahome, Ondo, Lagos, and numerous more territories that were once taken over. The Mongolians once controlled China, did you know that? Compared to China, why is Mongolia so diminutive? All of this occurred in the pre- historic times. Lots of things have taken shape.
Creeper:
Benin folks are the most deceptive revisionists out there next to Igbos. The way these folks exaggerate the history of Benin kingdom - you won’t even know that the same kingdom was defeated by Owo (multiple times), Mahin, Idah, Esan and a host of other kingdoms. Even the half-Portuguese Itsekiri king almost crushed them but they had to beg for mercy.
The only globally recognised Benin historian, whose book on Benin history is kept at world class libraries and institutions globally, Jacob Egharevba (he was a Benin prince), wrote that, ”Ekaladerhan died in Ughoton” and that ”Eweka was a Yoruba prince from Ife” in his book. So, why the revisionism?
You lot are sick.
Contrary to Yoruba history, the greatness of the Bini kingdom was not just legend or fiction. It was obvious even in the eighteenth century. Or were the Binis the ones who declared it to have the biggest man-made wall in history? historians in the West did. The empire was so powerful that it competed head-to-head with the British military. The Yoruba history is fiction, and that much is beyond dispute. a narrative concocted by a group of insane Yoruba historians. The empire has no trace all fiction!
The Benin empire is older than the Oyo empire. How’s that possible since your historians said it was an Oyo prince that formed the great Benin empire??
AmehTsaev:
Yorubas are unserious people, nobody takes them seriously except themselves. Take out the Lagos factor and you will discover those people are frauds with no true history, many Yorubas were slaves to the Oba of Benin and even the bronze head of ife that they claim was from Oduduwa was actually stolen from the Benin kingdom.
Apt! Those guys have no true history. All lies and fictions to say the least. All great and strong empires have a footprint up till this day, except the fictional Oyo empire. It left no traces of its so-called greatness. No traces at all, only hearsay.
It has been misleading to hear some extremely fanciful references to the great Bini empire from Yoruba people. One of the biggest kingdoms ever known to man, expanding its dominion as far as Dahomey. A group of Yoruba intellectuals invented historical myths about the great Bini empire's founders being the Oyo empire in order to rewrite history. When in reality an exiled Bini prince was the one who established the Oyo empire. His name is Prince Ekaladerhan of the great Bini kingdom , awhat the Yoruba scholars called Oduduwa in a bid to rewrite history. The first Bini king was his son because the realm was in upheaval at the time. The Yoruba race was formed by the Binis, not the other way around. In what way is a son older than his father?
Adejoncy01:
So, yesterday, 8th of May, 2023, I finally decided to let go of someone I've made an habit. It's been over six years I met her.
We've been very good friends and kind to each other in our ways. The thing is, I fell in love with her deeply, and she said she doesn't feel the same towards me. We talk for hours. The flow was too smooth. We understand each other to a great level. I still find it difficult to believe she didn't feel a thing for me.
I decided to kill my feelings for her and keep her as a friend. It didn't just work.
I recently knew she's now in a relationship with someone else. She told me.
And I can no longer remain friends with her.
So, I finally decided to let go of someone I've made an habit. I needed to.
I'm saying this here, maybe the pain will go out a little bit.
I feel so much pains. Farewell, girl. I'd miss you. Let me wish you well, from afar.
Do know that Daddy wish you well always, Daddy's baby girl.
My NYSC experience was full of challenges, but the moment that stood out for me was when I was finally assigned to a PPA despite facing many obstacles. The benefits were beyond what I had expected - I received a generous stipend that was six times my corper allowance, and was provided with free accommodation and regular food provisions by my PPA. Despite ing my PPA later than others, I was entrusted with leading over 40 other corpers in the company complex. Although we encountered some setbacks, such as not being able to complete a borehole project for a remote community, the positive experiences during my service far outweighed any negatives. Glory be to God!
Vado2: 1:29pm On May 17, 2023 
