NewStats: 3,265,314 , 8,186,350 topics. Date: Saturday, 14 June 2025 at 11:44 AM i3b6u

Ranchhoddas:
What exactly is the question?

Atheists claim to be the only ones who employ "logic" in understanding the universe and make jest ofothers for lack of'

Since logic is the (inbuilt) way of reasoning for all men, how come logic fails the average person when it comes to something as basic as knowing if God exists or not.

Other questions are on pg 0

None has answered my questions.

Still waiting

jonbellion:
well I am an agnostic athiest so in a way

Alright whatever that means. Glad you it the questions are beyond you

jonbellion:
how did I straw man
You said athiests say god is illogical
And I said its not
Religious versions of God are

Ok then the thread is not for you

jonbellion Strawman get out of my thread

ScepticalPyrrho:
Since you ignored my advice and chose to throw jabs at all atheist, be prepared to receive responses in the same manner.

You are missing the point.

You just made a claim which appears to be subjective. No problem, I get that. The only lacunae is not of logic but of judgement.

How did God appear to you?
Where, when, and why?
What state of mind were you at the point?
Did he tell you he is God?
What does he look like?
"Invincible knowing"? Please explain.

All these are likely questions that are appropriate. I am not ridiculing here.
I'm truly interested in your "invincible knowing". Perhaps it would make sense to me. That's all.

You are missing the point huh.

I mentioned you in a post. Pls answer the questions

Here i am wondering why you think that logic would fail the average man only when it comes to religion.

You must think logical reasoning is not independent of our control, that's why you fault theism

So in addition to my questions above.

Can a man influence or manipulate his "how to reason" faculty. Or is that beyond him?

jonbellion:
really
Wow
Please what does God look like
Is it a he or a she
A hermaphrodite
A transvestite

I am not here to show you anything. I want you to realise that you are not being reasonable when you accuse theists of being illogical.

Now answer these questions with all seriousness. If you cant ignore for the others.



Perharps God has revealed his character to some in a way they would never have imagined and others he allows to wallow in their ignorance. Is there a place for a thought/happening like this in logic?

Or maybe because you had a bad experience and hate the feeling of guilt, you 'd strongly reject any idea of entertaining a God. And because this hatred had become so unbearable it'd brought you to a state of denial of that thing you cannot tolerate? Is there a possibility of a thing like this in logic

Does a lack of substantial evidence indicate lack of logic?

Lets say a man claims to be saved and renewed by God.

Which reaction will be more logical?

a, He professes to believe in God and acknowledges his existence. And becomes a changed man
b, He starts doubting his sensibility even though he is very sane as evidenced in his everyday interaction and decisions. (Does logic fail the average man when it comes to religion?)

Cc scepticalpyrrho

hopefullandlord

ScepticalPyrrho:
I understand your irritation, but truly MOST religionist tend to present illogical statements.
If you're educated in logical reasoning, you'll know this.

However, this does not mean that all illogical claims are untrue statements.

When your premise doesn't imply your suppositions then it's said to be illogical.

There are also fallacies which makes religious arguments irrational.

Since most atheist are exposed to logic, I mean, the logical discipline. They may discard your assertions, by informing you that it's illogical.

You can defend your claims by presenting further reasons it is logical.

An illogical statement may appear meaningless to the person well read in Philosophy and Logic, but to the claimant, it may makes sense.

I'll just advise you to read about Logical Reasoning. So you can understand better, and possibly have an edge in argumentative discussions.

Don't get infuriated next time you are told your position is not logical. It is just a way of saying that you should present it in the inferential way. I'm aware that some atheist are arrogant at their display of superior understanding, don't let it discourage you.

Christians who understands the meaning of these concept don't argue over the dogmas in religious claims. They just tell you it is their believe, and no one can argue against that.

Will believing a God who has revealed himself to me count as illogical to atheists?

Can't atheists reason out that perharps there is an "invisible knowing" of things since their senses are quite limited? Would it be illogical to reason this way?

hopefulLandlord:


this was your question which I replied Ma'am



and I've explained that All human understands logic, just that people "suspend" that logic when talking about their belief/god/religion

I also explained further

Can you cite cases of how they suspend logic and every theists does this?

Hopefullandlord this is not a question of who is right or wrong. Perharps you are still short of varying world experiences to figure that or dismiss both.

Should logic follow and reason out all experiences or was it supposed to be limited?

HardMirror:



Stick to romance section pls

I say this with love

Gerrarahere love

I thought you 'd become smarter.

Niflheim:
@Speechless3,

1.Logic is the ability of an atheist to "not drink dettol" knowing it is harmful, even when christians are drinking it by the dozen!!!

2.You asked a "mal-formed" question!!! There are soooooooo many gods, so your question should have been, "How did you come to the logical conclusion that the 3,000 plus gods of antiquity, plus the new ones being worshipped are either 'non-existent' or mislabelled items?".....................................................
What do I mean by mislabelled items? The husband of the Queen of England is presently being worshipped as a god!!! So it will be wrong for me to say he does not exist, but it will be right for me to say he has been mislabelled!!!

shut up

Spiritual encounter or personal experience does not counter logic.

So if i encounter a divine being, ignoring and pretending i didnt will be logical to you?

ScepticalPyrrho:
Check below for the meaning of atheism.

You need to understand it.

Whats logical reasoning? Do all humans on earth possess this?
And how come most people arrived at the "creationism"?

I want to understand the logic atheists mean when they accuse us of lacking it

Please define logical reasoning and let's see how you arrived at your conclusion: of God not existing

Hardmirror, my love
Seun and others


Whats Logic to you?

Diddyydiva:
Been a while...


Where have you been?

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Diddyydiva:
Speechless


Longest time

hi diva!!

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RayRayZicc:
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hi Ray

Stupedinluv:

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STFUareyouGod:
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dingbang:
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Just as i left it

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LuvU2:
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