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snowland(m): 9:30pm On Dec 15, 2021
superintendents:
depending on luck sha..

but names like,money121,pocohantas,mariaAngelis too wey dey list I don't understand o
@money121, he was one of the earliest that commented. Same as @pocohantas. You can see that they have **** in front of the names, they belong to the list of those that might not really need it. I already compiled their names before really thinking they might not need it and deleting them will throw off my numbering.
It's now left for them to say they do not want to be a part or they want to give their slots to whomever they want.
snowland(m): 8:59pm On Dec 15, 2021
NPTJ:
I can't find @VTJN on the list. He gave a top notch ideas if not the best and made a good suggestions which you also agree to consider. Please don't make a mistake, he deserves having the plan 3. His ideas and suggestions was even backed up and recommended by different for you to use for Plan 1

@isaiah4life also put up a nice idea

My observation


Thanks for the observation. Honestly I only looked through page 10 of the thread and from page 8, it was just repeated names. So it's possible that other names besides @VTJN might also not appear in my list.
If there are other names, I'll appreciate it being pointed out for addition to the lists.

Also I equally ommitted some names, like @byrron that I feel might not really need it, I might be wrong though.

Thanks.

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snowland(m): 7:55pm On Dec 15, 2021
UPDATE FOR PLAN 3

Okay guys, these are the names of those that commented with at least one idea. Each contestant should note the number his/her name corresponds to because I'm going to be making the draw using the numbers.
Also I decided to increase the total giveaway to #250k, hence I will be drawing 10 names instead of 6 names initially planned.

If you think you posted an idea but your name is not on here. Kindly bring my attention to it by telling me the page where you posted it. I'll and if I find your claim to be true, I'll add to the list. I'm giving a grace period of 3 hours from now.

Here are the names:

1. illicit
2. superintendents
3. Bankowner -
4. isaiah4life
5. lilachiever
6. seankafor
7. uyogabie
8. Supreme145
9. chieni
10. Miracood2
11. sirBLUNT
12. stacyadams
13. money121 *****
14. pocohantas *****
15. Orente21
16. tens4real
17. Foodqueen
18. bjprodint1
19. Sirchiboy
20. GboyegaD
21. Mariangeles
22. SurvivorM
23. Moonie911
24. FriendsAndFans
25. Adaanna
26. Timekeeper
27. chatinent
28. anuofGod
29. VTJN
30. NigeriaIsGreat
31. Sperical77
32. Villa12
snowland(m): 5:00pm On Dec 15, 2021
UmmuFarrah:
God bless you all and May the most deserving person wins.
Madam I saw what others saw in you and I can say it that you'll go far if you continue with what you do. A magnanimous person is not so hard to find. God bless your home and prosper your business.

And may God bless @byrron abundantly for honoring his promise to you and for proving that favor/grace can fall on anybody irrespective of social status.
snowland(m): 4:25pm On Dec 15, 2021
byrron:


Hello,

This is to notify you that I have credited #52k into your bank to your business as promised.

Wishing you the very best in all your life endeavors.

Goodluck to everyone on this thread and beyond.
God bless you bro.

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snowland(m): 3:27pm On Dec 15, 2021
PrinceJoeWan:
Oga Snowland
There was an error oh,
I have sent u a mail
Got it and I replied. Thank you
snowland(m): 1:18pm On Dec 15, 2021
PrinceJoeWan:
Sent Sir

Seen and responded.
snowland(m): 11:32am On Dec 15, 2021
PrinceJoeWan:
Computer no dey do ojoro

Gods of the Computer me cry cry
Lol dude, your own too much. Send me a PM. E be like say God done finally answer your constant prayers.

Disclaimer: Na only @PrinceJoeWan I talk say make him PM me oo, I no wan see the whole Nairaland PMing me please.
snowland(m): 11:07am On Dec 15, 2021
[quote author=VTJN

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I troway salute for you. You see hehh, the moment I decided breaking this giveaway into three separate plans, I envisaged something like this happening.

While @byrron and some others that I cant their names were talking about how some contestants had people canvassing votes for them while other ones had no chance, I knew what was going on. I, at that point, was not worried because I knew the voting wasn't taking place on NAIRALAND. I had other plans to conduct the voting on other media which I didn't declare then and I'm not declaring now either.

But as we all know, man proposes but God disposes. I was hit with so many things occupying my time that if I do not come up with a different plan, this giveaway might linger too long than normal and might not even be concluded in time for the festive season.

So I decided to post anonymously in a section on Nairaland that's less likely to be visited but still get a few traffic here and there. Also, as an average Nigerian no like to read, I thought the section would be a perfect place to hide the post. I even hid their names and replaced them with generic names. And for anyone to visit that section, the person must be a reader. What more do I need than for neutral people to read through the plans and select the deserving ones?. It's less work for me and I can quickly conclude this giveaway thing.(so I thought).

It was actually going fine until this guy (I no go mention your name but you know yourself) figured it out and gave a hint on this thread. You see, I no go forgive you oo for bursting my bubbles and exposing my covers cheesy cheesy

So at this point, PLAN 1 has to wait while I decide on what to do. Plan 3 is next to be sorted out and that should be fairly easy. Na computer go pick those ones and computer no dey do ojoro.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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snowland(m): 5:33am On Dec 15, 2021
bigjackass:
I personally felt the voting of a thing was unnecessary because you have the ability to choose for yourself who should get the funds after reading their proposals, since they are just four. Besides I saw where some people warned out this bias and canvassing for votes before the polls even started but you ignored them. Unfortunately at this point, you can't uncanvass what has already been canvassed for grin

The voting was necessary because I dont ever want that kind of power to decide who gets what. I believe in people's voice. It's true that I'm providing the fund but that's where my power ends. I could have selected randomly but with that kind of amount, I wanted something more meaningful than random selection.

Yes people pointed out the sentimentality of some of people on here, which I was very much aware of myself, but I wasn't worried about that because my initial intentions was that the voting is NEVER going to take place on NAIRALAND.
But plans changed due to my work schedule and my friends that were staying with me due to the tornado that affected their homes. I had not much time to dedicate to this and I risk not been able to see this through to conclusion on time. The mistake I made was not taking my time and sticking with the original plan of taking the polls out of Nairaland.

Funny how you said you cant uncanvass what had been canvassed. I agree with that but what can also be done is reverse selection, which means selecting the winners from the rear. Maybe the last 2 contestants might actually become the eventual winners after all. Only time will tell.

Meanwhile, I'll get Plan 3 out of the way soon and see where everything goes from there.
snowland(m): 4:45am On Dec 15, 2021
Since PLAN 1 is currently SUSPENDED, I'll proceed to PLAN 3. Winners will be selected within the next 48 hours.
Let me reiterate the yardstick for qualifying to participate in Plan 3 because so many people failed to read and just thought they can ask to be entered for the plan.

YOU MUST HAVE COMMENTED, SOMEWHERE IN THE THREAD, PROVIDING IDEA ON HOW TO SELECT THE NEEDING FAMILIES.

So, if all you said was asked to be considered and no idea was suggested, no matter how impractical it might be, you are NOT qualified and will NOT be shortlisted.

Thank you.

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snowland(m): 3:35am On Dec 15, 2021
seankafor:
Oh mehn una still never done with this undecided

Trying to be perfect or too careful can make one make mistakes too..


Trying to be perfect? Heck naa. Nothing in life is perfect. Trying to be fair and just?. Absolutely. If I was trying to be perfect, I would have asked for much more detailed plans and voting process wouldn't have been conducted on Nairaland.

And yeah, we are still on it and no end in sight yet.
snowland(m): 11:31pm On Dec 14, 2021
I'm going to restart the polling BUT it's going to be OUTSIDE of NAIRALAND, which was my original plan anyways. I see lots of favoritism and vote canvassing going on and if I let it continue, the prize might not go to the deserving.

The fact that someone is popular should not be a factor for winning a contest where quality of purpose is required.
I know none of the contestants but what I know is what the provided. They were all given same resources, time and platform to tell us their plans. If I'm going to vote, I will vote for the plan that makes the most sense and not who I know.

What happens here is a prime example of the political reality of the present Nigeria where man-know-man takes precedence over quality of purpose.
If naija is to be great, we need to eschew politics of padi-padi and embrace progressive politics. What we have in Naija, and right here on Nairaland, is a regressive politics. I'm not ready to be a part to that.

Thank you.

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snowland(m): 10:53pm On Dec 14, 2021
The POLL is hereby SUSPENDED (NOT CLOSED) till further NOTICE.
snowland(m): 10:43pm On Dec 14, 2021
I didnt share this link. With the way things are going I may be forced to VOID all votes. Whoever shared this link should delete it asap please.

ENOUGH with this vote canvassing if you guys would not let their voices(their plans) be heard. I need the link be deleted NOW
snowland(m): 9:27pm On Dec 13, 2021
FINAL NAMES OF CONTESTANTS FOR PLAN 1

IyaZainab
AkindeleBolanle
Agbecassava
ModupeTemmy1

Voting will start at 12am tonight (Tuesday, 14 Dec) and will run till 12am Tomorrow (Wednesday 15 Dec). If I do not have enough votes (more than 20), I may extend the voting by 12 more hours till 12pm Wednesday the 15th of Dec.

NOTE: I have not and I'm not disclosing how the voting will take place but it will. So tagging, voting without hearing from me is just a wasted excercise.

Good luck to the contestants.
snowland(m): 9:02pm On Dec 13, 2021
Okay so @Lemonadewifey, I got your plan in my email and obviously it's not a plan that's just written for the purpose of this giveaway. I have no problem with that but what I have problem with is the proposed startup cost.
You should have at least put in some work on what you want to spend the fund on to reflect the total amount of fund you are competing for.

Submitting the pre-written plan with a startup cost (115k) which is almost 2.5 times of what you are likely to win shows it wasn't a well thought out move for this giveaway.

In the light of this, I'm sorry I'm not going to add you to the list of contestants. .
snowland(m): 8:32pm On Dec 13, 2021
Lemonadewifey:

Doing so right away

Be advised, less than 30 minutes left. If I do not have it by 9pm, I'm sorry the ship will sail. without your plan. If you are having issue sending via email, you can post it here.
snowland(m): 8:22pm On Dec 13, 2021
Lemonadewifey:

Doing so right away
Post it here as well once you are done if you want to. It's not compulsory that you do so but you can if you like.
snowland(m): 8:20pm On Dec 13, 2021
Crystyano:






I want to do music but there are other issues.


I want to get an apartment... I'm having accommodation issues.

I want to my dad towards helping my brother who's in prison.


I struggle to feed so I don't know how I can achieve these things.

I don't know where to start from.
I'm sorry man, wish I could help but my hands are tied at this time.
snowland(m): 8:18pm On Dec 13, 2021
Lemonadewifey:

Thanks sir. Where do I send the plan too?

Send it to [email protected].
snowland(m): 8:09pm On Dec 13, 2021
Crystyano:



Can you help me?

I'm sorry I have a theme for this giveaway which is for family. I tweaked it to cater for family with business, because targeting just families kinda was too broad and it would be a little hard to objectively select the deserving ones.
I dont have the capacity to go out of my way and help everyone that has asked me to, both on this thread, on other thread and even through the shared email. There's no way I can do it.

The only thing I can do Is add anyone with a business plan to the list of contestants to participate in the voting process. If you have a biz, either existing or intended, and you can get the plan across before 9pm today, I can add you to the list.

That's the best I can do. I already have a budget and going outside of the budget will not speak well for me.

Thanks.
snowland(m): 7:29pm On Dec 13, 2021
Crystyano:

Oh now I got your point. If you go through the previous ones (giveaways) that I conducted, I never let anyone decide the deserving winners for me, I do that myself. I give everyone equal opportunity and I try to make the selection as open as possible. The only 2 times I relied on recommendation were
1. When I did give away for 40 people and I needed someone to disburse the money out because I was busy and couldn't do it myself.
2. This particular give away where I got three people vouch for one of the people that signified interests in Plan 2.
If you go through the pages, you'll find it.

So in order words, I dont listen to what people say about someone. I listen to what the person is saying himself or herself.

I appreciate your . I wish I could help everyone but it's damn not possible.
snowland(m): 5:48pm On Dec 13, 2021
Lemonadewifey:

Good evening sir. I actually signified interest in plan 1. Please consider me just incase you decide to add one more contestant. Thanks
@ Lemonadewifey, I'm waiting on your plan. Like I said, deadline is 9pm tonight. If I do not hear from you, I'll go ahead with the others. Reach out asap.
snowland(m): 3:52pm On Dec 13, 2021
Hi @Crystyano, I'm sorry I didnt quite get what you are talking about here. I'm not trying to be rude or something, I just wasnt getting your point. Please know that I really appreciate and welcome constructive criticisms or s and I have a feeling your comment is one, but I wasnt getting what you are giving on. If you dont mind elaborating, I will be grateful.

Thanks.
Crystyano:



What is your definition of an evidence?

Good morning.

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snowland(m): 4:34am On Dec 13, 2021
Lemonadewifey:

Good evening sir. I actually signified interest in plan 1. Please consider me just incase you decide to add one more contestant. Thanks
I apologize I didn't see see your post where you showed interest earlier. There are so many that it was kinda hard to keep up. I had to go through your posts to confirm.
Send in your plan before 9pm today to be added to the draw.
Thanks.
snowland(m): 7:29pm On Dec 12, 2021
VTJN:


Anyway, like i said earlier. Your money, your decision.

Let me solicit for fund too. Please anyone should come to my aid @Snowland please help me biko

I'm extremely broke and unemployed. Please any well wishers should kindly come to my aid. Though my pressing need is job. Nonetheless, I'm salivating to all these funds. As a broke dude please anyone should please help with something to feed with. I am hungry. Myself and sibling. To get job for this naija na war!

To be candid, disqualifying @Ummufarrah is completely out of fairness. @Ummufarrah a decision had been taken. You got disqualified for being gifted cash by someone who got glued to your sincerity

@Snowland biko help me o, God would meet your friends who were victims of the Tornado incidence at the point of their needs and restore their loss

Anyone should help biko. @Ummufarrah I love you wink

Boss @VTJN, thanks for your honest . It's much appreciated.
Let me repeat myself again. The purpose of this giveaway was initially to give to families with kids but then after ruminating on how to select the families that duely deserve the fund, I brought the business angle to it. The aim is to help families that has businesses and are cash starved. These four people responded and I selected the four of them. I dont know if they have millions in their s (no way to find out) but the only way I can see their seriousness is through their business plans.

All these people are given Equal Platform. But when one of them is promised the exact amount that is being contested for, it threw the Equality Platform into the imbalance. This negates my original intent of giving to someone that DO NOT have.

Like I said earlier, I do not have any idea if all these 4 contestants have millions in their s and come out here to claim they need fund, however what I do know now is one of them now has a promise of 50k. In all fairness, she's no longer in equality to the other 3 contestants that has nobody publicly promised them any amount. If the promise to her had not been in the open, she would have continued. And if any other contestants have such promises and in the open, such a contestant stands to be disqualified. No strings attached.

I want to respectfully counter yours and @brryon assertions that she would not have won anyways, that is absolutely not true. Here's the scenario that I noticed:

The first person gave her plans and everyone was rooting for her. Then the other contestants submitted hers, and then she started gaining upper hands. It's all about the quality of a plan and how its presented.

@Ummufarrah was written off completely even before she gave her plans, by herself inclusive. When she contemplated dropping off, I personally encouraged her not to do so because I knew she stands a better chance at winning. (This can be verified, its somewhere in this thread). I have absolutely nothing against any of the selected four. Also I know none of these contestants but I believe in equality. But when there's an imbalance in equality, concept of equity sets in.

Her being "given" 50k threw of the balance of equality, hence I had to introduce the concept to equity.
I believe in spreading the wealth, let almost everyone get something. Wealth should not be concentrated in the hands of the few.

Once again, I appreciate your constructive .

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snowland(m): 4:51pm On Dec 12, 2021
byrron:


Stepping down is at the discretion of the participant which is completely different from being disqualified for breaking no rules.

Just like I stated earlier, I respect the decision but I still believe in the sanctity of sticking with rules of a contract, agreement or anything one's it has been drafted, signed and sealed and any alterations is certainly a breach.

Cheers.

Bro I really respect your view. But incase you missed it, nothing at this point is guaranteed. Even that someone wins the vote does not mean they will get the fund if they fail verification of claim.
It's not everyone that'll have the patience to go through the entire thread and see that one of the contestants had been promised a certain amount. Voting is not going to take place in this thread not even in this section. I'm gonna post in a totally different section to avoid bias because some of the contestants are popular than other. I want their plans speak for them, not their popularity. I know popularity will still play few part, but it will be considerably reduced. Who knows I might even take it out of Nairaland completely to give a level playing ground.

As for the BBN example you set, my Oga, none of the BBN contestants goes home empty handed. As long as you made it in the house, you get something, whether you're evicted 1 hour later or you made it to the final. They are all winners, they just have different amount of wins.

On the other hand, one of the contestants in my giveaway will go home with 0 naira. It might even be 2 of them if @ummufarrah is allowed to compete. I'll rather have one than have two. @UmmuFarrah is already a winner, so it's a win-win situation.

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snowland(m): 4:22pm On Dec 12, 2021
byrron:


Rules don't get changed in the middle of a competion.

Once you bring in sentiments in anything then objectivity gets relegated.

I'm only a spectator and can decide what i choose to do but if I was an organizer, then I will stick with the rules and what a spectator does shouldn't influence the rules.

Guess, if a team member gets an endorsement from an organization as their brand ambassador then it is fair to drop the beneficiary out of the team and give others the chance to hopefully get an endorsement too?

Sometimes we just have to set the rules aside and be objectively human. I don't know any of the 4 contestants from Adam but what I do know is the 4 of them need some fund for their business. If @UmmuFarrah is allowed to continue with the competition and let's say she win the 50k, that puts her at 100k, whereas 1 of the other contestants would be denied. It's unfair to me. I believe in spreading the wealth, rather than having it concentrated within a few.
And going by your example of a member of an organization winning an endorsement, the key words here are "TEAM" and "ORGANIZATION". A team works together to achieve an organizational goal. If a team member wins the endorsement, he or she wins for the team and not for himself/herself. There might be some personal pecks attached to it, but the bottom line is the TEAM won the endorsement.
In the case of this competition, every of the contestants is his own organization and team. They are individual entities.

Besides, the competition has not even started yet. Competition starts when voting start. Then it would be unfair to disqualify her then but at this point any of the other 3 candidates can still be dropped if need be.

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snowland(m): 4:10pm On Dec 12, 2021
UmmuFarrah:

It's just like it's also from you, thank you so much for the opportunity. God will continue to bless you. Good luck to others too smiley
@UmmuFarrah, I hope you understand why I did what I did. I dont know you from anywhere and I don't know any of the other 3 contestants. I just want a fair and level play ground for everyone. I'm sorry but that is the best course of action with the turn of events.
snowland(m): 4:01pm On Dec 12, 2021
byrron:


What is fair with your unilateral decision to drop someone you once selected as part of the contestant simply because I promised to credit her on 12/15/21?

I thought you said the voters would decide and that would have been the true definition of equity.

Just like I stated on my previous post, I was tagged to this post and I still don't know the reason why I was tagged in the first place.

Does this mean that once some gets gifted outside the competition then they get automatically dropped out of the contest?

That's not fairness sir, let the voter's decide.

Thanks.

I appreciate your input. What I did to me is the true definition of being fair. You would not have known about her if she had not signified interests and I selected her. Yes, the voters will decide but the game changed when you singled her out of the park and promised her 50k. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what you did but it's not fair to the other 3 candidates.
You have your yardstick for choosing her over the other 3 but it puts her in a better financial position over the rest. Allowing her to continue will not only be unfair to the other contestants but also to others that have been asking for help in one way or the other on this same thread.
It would have been a different ball if you had not announced it on here, but since you did, technically she's no longer qualified.
Thank you.

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snowland(m): 3:47pm On Dec 12, 2021
Supreme145:

MummyMalik won plan 2 effortlessly due to her proven track record of executing such plans and recommendations from other , with the other lady out its quite stroll in the park for the two IYAs.
You're exactly right about MummyMalik, her track record spoke for her. About PLAN 1, none of the 3 is a push over. They all have equal chances.

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