NewStats: 3,261,263 , 8,173,566 topics. Date: Wednesday, 28 May 2025 at 05:38 PM 3o13t

Denovan:

Huawei have thier own app store called app gallery, where developers can post thier apps there, I don't think it can affect them. Google is shooting themselves in the foot. When harmony os launch and Chinese government force all thier oem to use that will be the end of andriod. Google is trying to create a monopoly, but you know it's not going to end well.

If andriod 's plan takes effect, what do u think will happen to app galery?

Like i v said earlier all other Chinese OEM have seen their vulnerability and they are all wondering who is next after the target of ZTE and Huawei.
Their is serious unanounced t ventures going on btw chinese OEMs and huawei apps gallery is the backbone of the development.

ndcide:


What exactly is trump doing that they don't like.

The tech war and restriction to trade with Major chinese tech giant.

The rules of development and advancement states that u should sell your non sensitive tech to other tech companies so that u will make money and they will inturn rely on you.
If u refuse to trade, other tech company will be forced to push tons of R & in that direction this means u v s successfully created competition for ur self and they may eventually push u out of market.

That is what is playing out in Harmony OS, alternative appstore, the new Chinese socs fabricating plants(SMIC) and the rise of Chinese silicon valey in zhong guan cun.

Themandalorian:

I hope its works out for them cos having to rival google would not be easy.


I read somewhere that they were about to launch their own OS called HarmonyOS, if its done then all is left is to get developers on board create some key important apps and they are good to go.
They part that will be tricky are apps owned by google, eg Google maps, youtube, etc.
It will be tricky.

There is already equivalent of google map called baidu, their is youtube and co equivalent in tencent etc the problem is that it is not a easy task to get developers on board, if it was that easy, windows mobile wouldn't have failed. Harmony OS will be successful in main land China and it is easier to get chinese developer on board since China already has equivalent or advance replica of western core apps. However it is of no use because Huawei has firmly secured Chinese market even without google suit so the battle is India, Europe and outside Chinese domain and google and Apple rules those places, they need a smartway to bring in developer in even though they v budgeted $1.5billion for that purpose, money alone can't get it done if not microsoft would have thrown triple of that out.

The solution is what they have done but google has moved in to checkmate them.

lets see the next move, my problem is it will take another 5 to 8months to get the clear picture of their next step.

Themandalorian:

What I believe is huawei will be forced to launch their own OS fully.

The problem is how to encourage developers to it, without apps the OS is dead on arrival.
Sun Tzu states that lay low and work hard until appointed time, that is what Huawei and chinese government are doing.

The plan is to create alternative app store which is already in existence, encourage developers to move on board and then migrate the system to the their own OS. All Chinese phone manufacturers are on board and it is t work.
They pilot it with shareit app which is t work btw BBK, Xiaomi, Huawei, Miezu, zte and others
Google is very smart to sniff that out and now they have indirectly war they were originally against.

witnezHD:
u have switch topic...my question is "how does google blocking installation of app from thirdparty affect huawei"...

I think my explanation should be clear enough. Abi which phone manufacturer no get access to playstore ?

Unless you are not aware of chess game going on in the past 5 months.

witnezHD:
how?

Huawei needed to be killed by all means and google suit is one way to get it killed. Huawei has find away around it and all chinese phone manufacturers are working together to create alternative suit which includes t alternative app store. Realme, OPPO, IQOO, VIVO, ZTE and so many are already on baord, they are working together to even encourage developers to create ecosystem around that.

If they are successful in that, what do u think will be next?
The answer is open for all to see.
Google can't sit back and allow that to happen even though they are not happy with what Trump is diong, they know it will push other manufacturers to look for alternative but they will not make it easy for smooth ride for that alternative to take off, that alternative will not use andriod platform as a spring board.

WoundedLamb:


I got that and I'm saying IBM is not in the league of HTC and RIM. Not even comparable. HTC was kicked out of the phone manufacturing industry (all the way from the the lion's share downhill). They went into virtual reality and even they, they aren't in the the very top, no status. They've cut their staff base by 1,500 and counting. RIM was worse, they were completely kicked out. It's no longer a smart phone company. It's now into security.

Point is, both RIM and HTC didn't just lose market value or shift manufacturing line, they went downhill in the tech company rankings generally. IBM on the other hand sold some of its assets to Lenovo (ThinkPad was originally IBM). This made them to lose popularity cause people don't know about their mainframes as much they knew about their PCs. They also lost some of their market share. But they have remained consistent in developing the hardware components for some of these PC's. They still manufacture mainframe computers. They still have the highest spread and employee base and they are still in the top 10 in of market value. Not even a single tech company has been in the industry as long as IBM, not even one and for them to still have this status, I completely agree with the other guy that it's unfair to lump them up with those other firms.

I understand ur point.

They are trying to blockade Huawei and the new chinese plan to create alternative app store.

edoairways:

A banker! Na wa oh

He will open his mind to know if he did not have intension to castigate Nigeria.

WoundedLamb:


Good. And It still produces hardware today and has diversified into AI, business solutions, data mining, etc. It is still the oldest surving IT firm and one of the largest. It's market value dropped considerably but it wasn't necessarily pushed out of it's market line. Newer firms with more diverse lines of business overtook IBM but like the other guy said, you don't lump it up with those other firms who clearly left the picture.

Just like i said to d guy ealier, HTC and RIM are still are still in line of business closely related to what we know them for and they are also leaders in such area but others are raking in billion of $ in multiple of what they are making in a field they almost single handedly forged out.

WoundedLamb:


What was IBM's traditional line of business?

Business machine including computers.
They invents almost everything about computer from the first mordern day electronic computer (Vacuum Tube Multiplier) to hard disk. They are even the inventor of pictograme we use in mordern computer today and gave it out to Steve Job freely because of lack of vision.
IBM is supposed to dominates computer world both hardware and software.
Image a company that invented the way OS works on computer yet couldn't have it own OS.

etrange:


IBM is still the largest IT firm in the world in of spread and employee base and the 6th largest tech firm in the world in of market value. It's a bit unfair to lump them up with these other firms.

Likewise HTC and RIM are still in another line of business now.
They are all the largest in area they are in today.

The argument is about being pushed out of their traditional market as a result of better organisation and competition.

edoairways:
elvischukie it not just technology illiteracy, even medical, social, political illiteracy.

exactly what i wanted to say, Nigerians lacks knowledge of many things even the ones that ed through four walls of university don't even know anything about what they study.

The rich, the poor even the ones in high places don't know things and they all argue alot.
The only thing they know is political, religion and tribal sentiment, they create foolish opinion without fact, believes in it and tries very hard to sell those biased opinion to others as a fact.

i v resolved not to disscus issues with average Nigerians again because they believe more in their personal formed biased opinion than fact.
Imagine one was telling me Ghana does not have a single case of covid 19 just because he wants to believe convid 19 does not exist and government is lying. At the end he shouted “Buhari is a scam”
How does Buhari being a scam relates to fact twisting and claiming Ghana does not have a single covid 19 case.

Another was a man comparing Ghana exchange rate and claiming Nigeria has finished, i ask him if he knows about currency redinomination and that Ghana did currency redinomination but he never belived it, though the man is a banker.

quora, UCweb, firstbank and Domination.
i will have to by adding whatapp

Kamaye:
As usual, Nigerians are taking for granted. There is Nokia 1.3 released before this one, it is a better device with similar specs but snapdragon chipset, a water drop display, better battery and OTG function, but I wonder why Nokia has not introduced it to Nigeria market.

Until average phone knows what specs means and spend their money on the best spec available.

Randerl:
That nokia c2 na Spreadtrum chip be that unisoc?

That chips is only for making calls and nothing tangible can be done on that phone.

people do mistake every phone s to be a gamer, not everybody plays game with their phones but some do really tasking stuff with their phones. This chips can't do those task, it cant even open dwg files with simple design on it.

ibawon:
Seunfly how far your Realme now, you no even give us gist when the thing land
No be soooo

Sorry my brother, too many activities.

Resees:

Hey what of Africa and Nigeria when are you guys going to come up with the next big thing? I hear crickets.

If u think i will you to kick Africa and Nigeria on the ground, u are wrong bro. Africa and Nigeria is already on the ground and it takes effort of u and i to lift her from or push her to the ground base on our action and inactions. U can kick her in the mud d way u like, it does not stops you from getting dirty as well unless u are not an African or A Nigerian.

Resees:

Apple is bigger than Nigeria bro.

I don't know the purpose of this quote however i will like to remind you that we are here to have intellectual conversation based on history and past scenarios, if their is something that is certain like death, it is history and it always repeat itself and ends in similar scenario be it 2000 years ago or in the next 10 years, it will always repeat itself unless a new cause of action is taken.

princemillla:




Wrong, Apple is preffered cuz of level of security it offers. If this hackers continue with their bombardment they will lose fragment of their trust.

Op u know it's easier to steal and byed iphone these days. It easier to jailbreak their most beloved A11 chip now. Hence apple is not sleeping ditching out software update blocking every loopholes

@Bolded, RIM also had that edge years back.
Does it stops them from going under?
Up till now that is what RIM is still doing, security solution for business. I back then, that is what almost all the president of G7 Nation used, US president, UK prime minister, German chancellor etc that is the level of security blackberry had then.

roteblomen:
The appeal of apple lies in its exclusivity, and their great marketing techniques that made people to perceive it as classy. In of tech and giving consumers what they desire, apple is failing woefully in that regards. Recycling and rebranding old technologies are not innovation.

In the last fiscal year, Samsung and Huawei sales have been on a steady increase, while apple is on a free fall and recording lesser sales each quarter. With the way apple is going, I imagine its faith to be like the formally revered blackberry, that has no sophistication like its symbian brothers, but its value relying on the fact that it gives the a feeling of using an exclusive classy product. And with a ridiculous price that doesn't justify its cost, apple is in for a long struggle.

fr3do:
Apple is loved not because of innovation or design.
It sells because of its pricing strategy and luxurious outlook.

An Iphone that isn't expensive is not an iPhone.

Unfortunately the bolded is what killed most giants companies, RIM was in the same position 15yrs ago until the next big thing swept them away, Nitendo also had similar edge over Sega until the next big thing inform of Sony swept them away, infact it was Sega that brought Sony into computer game in other to smash Nitendo but Sega became arrogant and dump Sony at t press breifing. It was this humiliation that empowered Sony and Sony came and smashed both of them. As at the time Sega was pushed out of market, they had $4billion cash at hand in 1996, just like apple of today that has several billions to play around.

No matter what you sell and how good ur marketing is, innovation still rules, if cocacola still innovates in disguise who is apple to stagnat. Even Certified Luxury comapnies such as BUGATI, FERRARI, ROLLS ROYCE, MASERATI, LARMBOGINI ETC all innovates, infact their innovation set tones for future car designs for decades. What u see in those cars is what other manufactures copies 10years later.

OneKinGuy:

Apple is just too big. They can't go anyhow.

greenhulk:


You know that is impossible.

Go and read about leyman brothers, IBM, Nitendo, Sega and co, u will realise that their is nothing like too big to fail.

As a tech company once u stops innovation and u rely on existing core and cliqs to drives sales, u are already failing. The next big thing will sweep u away, Apple knows this and they are hoping for the next big deal to come from them unfortunately the next big deal in telecome may likely not come from American, letalone apple inc unless Trump wins the technological battle.

This decade will determines alot of things, by the end of 2020 decade lets wait and see if apple will come up with next new thing or they will be swept under carpet with huge fund at their disposal like HTC, RIM, Sega etc.

Like i used to say, they will go thesame path of IBM, RIM, HTC, NOKIA, SEGA etc

DragnetisaKuk:
28nm process + 10 cores was a recipe for overheating so they counted their losses and moved on with the P series. Not sure though.

It could also be because they wanted to streamline their product offerings. For example Mediatek currently has 2 major SoC series, Dimensity and Helio

The Dimensity are top shelf mid range SoCs whilst the Helio series is still segregated by alphabet classes.

G series
P series
A series

Given that they're making strides with the Dimensity series in 5G markets, the Helio A series and P series might soon be scrapped off their lineup as they offer bottom barrel performance like they were intended to whilst the G series currently offer good entry level performance (G70) and amazing midrange performance (G90T, G85).

Shalom. cc Festwiz.

You nailed it.

Im suspecting mediatek may likely discontinue P series and focus solely on Dimensity 1000 series and 800 series while G series will make up 4G lower midrange while Dimensity 1000 will go for upper midrange 5G and Dimensity 800 will fill in for lower midrange 5G.

What ever step qualcom takes has profond influence on what the direction madiatek will face.

it seems this oppo is calling me to make it my secound phone.

Samyd18:
then why do OEM use spec to ?

They use specs to because it gives you idea of what to expect.
Sometimes ur expectation might be matched or might be disappointments.
If a phone uses SD 855 plus socs, sony imx 586 camera sensor and 65watt charger etc u already know you have great phone beyond decent, no matter how poor the software is. However if a manufacutere announces UNISOC SC7731E socs, with very bad camera sensor and 5watt charge, u will know that no matter how smooth the software is, the phone will be a disappointments.

Rgade:

How do you this authenticity..

There are apps that authenticates specs of ur phone, just and run it.

Specs is very important as well as optimisation, boths goes hands in hand.

Their is no optimization that will make helio p22 better than helio P90 or SD 855.

Software enhances the job of hardware but software can't make a bad harware great, Software can only better a good harware example is gcam, gcam makes good sensor turn up a monster pictures but no gcam or apple camera apps will make the sensor on bird D716 turn up with any spectacle picture.

I v watch people mistake camera sensor for camera mega pixel, they are 2 different things and people says Iphone only have so and so mega pixel and the picture quality is better than motorola with so and so mega pixel.

Sensor determines quality picture because it control amount of light that entres, therefore apple and google use great sensors but lower mega pixel.

awoo47:
u sure...
cos b4 android 10 i updated twice nd also recently d one ui 2.0 version came

There is different between major updates and security patch, SAmsung only gets 3 major updates and many security patches depending on number of bugs to fix and features to be updated.

witnezHD:
whats ur point

The point is Iphone did not introduce notch, two phones already introduce notch before Iphone.

awoo47:
samsung dey get updates steady oo..i sabi person wey dey use a30s
Nd dere amoled screen na badass..wen i see am i no believe say my own sef na amoled

I'm not saying they don't get update, I'm talking about the seriousness all this chinese OEM put into phones. My wife is also using samsung A30s.

She does not get 2 major updates in a year and samsung doesn't push more than 3 major updates through out life time of their phones.

awoo47:
baba na Till nxt yr.. you sabi wen dem announce android 10..Na only flagship dey get quick updates

Lol, andriod 10 don dey my phone since December last year, i bought my phone 3 months ago and i waited for 3weeks before i updated. The update was hanging since d day i unboxed it.
Now dey don send me message for the awaiting andriod 11.

I think all this Chinese OEM are very serious, more than even samsung and co.

Uchexxy:
please tell me how I can get the Android 10 update on my Gionee x2

realme x 2?

First finds out which variant, Chinese or Global.

Then go to this site https://www.realme.com/in//software-update

select your phone, select your variant code.
pls note the variant code before u select ooo.

Dont global rom on chinese variant or vice versa.

However if u mean gionee x2, i cant help u, u may have to go to gionee thread.