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gidgiddy: Book that I will not find in any reputable bookshop shey. Anyway, I give it to you, you are persistent. Oh, and I clearly did not say you could not record people. It's doing so clandestinely in that era and at that time of war, where telegrams were still in use that I pointed out. Until I hear of another similar story that occured in the sixties in Nigeria, I will not believe it. 1 Like 1 Share |
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gidgiddy: You don't give up do you. Kindly tell us which tape was used, was it cassette or CD? Also tell us the device used, was it from USSR or USA? Please we need the details. When we say that there is something supernatural that affects the ability of a set of grown educated men to control their emotions and think independently for yourself you will say people are being tribalistic. The first James Bond movie was released in 1962, even as at then the bugs you are referring to hardly existed or were imagined. The most notorious surveillance case in the world, the Watergate scandal that occured 5 years later in 1972 did not involve the use of such sophisticated devices as you describe. Taping people in the 60's was done by putting recording devices in phones that fed to wired lines and plenty of nearby surveillance equipment was needed at a close range to intercept as wireless technology was at its infancy. This is not emotion, this is what actually existed. Now am I meant to understand as a grown man that a people who were using Obunigwe to fight a war of survival were wasting their time developing hightech surveillance gadgets to catch someone? Gadgets that even the USSR and the USA hardly had? Can't you pause for a moment and think for yourself?! They physically met at a hotel where they discussed the whole plot and lo and behold Odogwu was using a mobile phone that would be invented in like 40 years time to record them !!! You are better than this, God created you better than this!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
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gidgiddy: I ire your reply a bit, at least you tried to control your impulses and provided information that wasn't just simply regurgitated as your brothers continue too. However, there was no falsehood I explicitly stated, so let me reply. Firstly I said Ojukwu did not personally shoot a shot in anger and this is something noted about his military career that it was people always doing his dirty work for him, while he enjoyed wearing uniforms with all sorts of medals giving his broadcasts during the war. I decided to google the battle you mentioned and surprise surprise the only info I could find on it was on one of your official ipob websites. The excerpt of the battle was taken from an eyewitness from someone (obviously a Biafran) who was very proud of his role in this battle and I initially thought it was Ojukwu, until I saw the Head of State was mentioned in the 3rd person. Surprise surprise again, the excerpts are from your GOC Madiebo and here is what he recounts about Ojukuwu's direct involvement. Achuzia, who was also delegated to assist with the operation later came to see me at 1300 hours looking extremely worn out and dejected. He revealed that the counterattack I planned on Oguta for 1600 hours had already taken place and failed woefully. He narrated how Colonel Ojukwu came to the sector at 0900 hours shortly after my departure, and ordered an immediate counterattack to be controlled by him personally. Not only had the operation failed and the Head of State return to Umuahia, all the ammunition including 300 rounds of 105 mm artillery shells we had saved up for the operation had been exhausted. https://www.ipob.org/uknc-o-history-lesson-the-oguta-confrontation-heroes-fight-like-biafrans-part-1 There goes your lion. Read what you will into it. If you bother reading the rest, you will see that Ojukwu, like a true desk soldier, immediately gave up after that setback he personally "led" undermining another one of his commanding officers (like he did to Banjo in the past), telling Madiebo that they needed another set of troops commanded by someone different to expel the enemy. But like what normally happens in war, true warriors ignore their superiors and at the 2nd attempt, properly commanded by Madiebo, he ensured that Achuzia went back and cleared the enemy. Very colourful language is used to describe the victory and Ojukwu is shocked that the same people he had written off achieved this. Maybe if he spent less time playing to the gallery and authoring his Shakespearean tragedy he would have seen that the resolve of his men was always their greatest attribute. As for your claims on Nwankwo, they are true, he was born in modern day Delta state. However not once did I say he wasn't a Midwesterner (though I must it I did not know that he was) but I acknowledged his clear Igbo roots, which he amplified. Also you cannot deny that immediately he took over, things started to fall apart pretty quickly. Unpopular policies were promulgated that seemed pro Biafran like es, curfews and more importantly the cornering of provisions and supplies directly to Biafra. Rapes and molestations by Biafran officers, especially targeted at northern minorities became the norm. In fact the "liberators" were so suspicious of the "liberated", that only Igbos were allowed to cook food for the Biafran soldiers after a few poisoning scares. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_Invasion_of_1967#CITEREFBaxter2015 Now all of this could be dismissed as Nigerian propaganda, but what cannot be dismissed was that Biafran soldiers were ambushed by indigenous Ijaws/Urohobos and quite a few were killed, way before Nigeria had put in place it's counter attack. So clearly, the Midwesterners were not happy about something with their "liberators" and this is strange as this same region was peaceful under Ejoor. Well we all know what happend later, when Nigerian troops were welcomed with open hands and Igbo minorities in the mid west felt the full force of the consequences of the original Biafran "liberation". Now lastly, as for the Biafran coup I could not find anything from your Odogwu and to be honest I have seen you have already argued this with people on here who have dismissed his version. What I do not get is if their was actually a recording of their plotting, how was it possible that their first trial was deemed inconclusive and the Military judge (a Biafran) refused to convict. I have very personal experiences with the military and I fail to see how any officer would discountenance a recording and refuse to take the easy route and instead stick his head out for "marked men". No one has ever done that in the Nigerian or Biafran military, no one. Anyway, why googling this I came across this interesting interview from Gowon where he points out that the first coup in Nigeria was actually meant to be carried out by Banjo and Ojukwu. So it is clear that Ojukwu knew Banjo pretty well (and vice versa). He clearly recognised that he could never trust people that were carved from the same stone as him when it came to loyalty and ambition and that's why almost all the original coup plotters were reimpriosned or died under his hand in Biafra. The irony of life is that Northerners would probably have been far happier if initially Ojukwu had become head of state instead of Ironsi!! https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/01/ojukwu-banjo-conceived-what-could-have-been-first-coup-in-1964-gowon/ EDIT: Just noticed another claim that Nwazu Nwankwo was actually born in Nnewi, and Anambra people don't usually get their kith and kin wrong. Anyway, the only thing we can be sure of is he identified himself with Biafra over any other identity. https://web.facebook.com/ingbiafrans/posts/name-major-dr-albert-nwazu-okonkwo-date-of-birth-august-17-1938-place-of-birth-n/806306941707111/?_rdc=1&_rdr# 4 Likes 1 Share |
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Fynx: Why does it not surprise me that you would actually denigrate and call him a liar, this a whole Madiebo, a man who not only led your forces but actually shed blood for you and saw combat, unlike your glorious leader Ojukwu who never shot a bullet in anger and was to busy writing shakespearean poetry to recite to you on radio to feed your egos. What exactly are you disputing self? Are you saying Madiebo who was your GOC, an actual military combatant, was not an eyewitness and was wrong in describing Banjo's death and the days leading before it. Are you saying a "cunning yorubaman", who also happened to be a poet (seems like you prefer poets instead of warriors) had more insight into military machinations than a General in the Biafran army, since as you alone claim he escorted Banjo everywhere he went. As usual arguments based on silly emotions rather than common sense, facts and more importantly the truth. Banjo invaded the Midwest region himself with 3000 Biafrans on 9th August 1967 dealing with a federal force that numbered no more than 300 men . The Northerners, sorry I mean the "Nigerian" authorities, had recalled almost all their troops back home or to Lagos months ago, conveniently. Read into that what you will. Within 24 hours, the Biafran "liberating" force controlled most of the region. Straight away Banjo, the invading General (na Ojukwu give am title) found out that Ojukwu had undermined him and without his knowledge sent another bunch of troops commanded by Ochei to go and kill Ejoor in Benin, which had not been part of what Banjo and Ojukwu discussed as Ejoor, was still one of the 3 midwestern candidates Banjo had suggested that Ojukwu should appoint as of the Midwest....since as they all insisted, they were not actually invading any other parts of Nigeria but "liberating" and"saving" us from Northern control and domination. Ojukwu refused to accept this, and appointed an Igbo officer, Okonkwo, a medical doctor as the new Governor and leader of the Midwesterners. Read into that what you will. After 3 days of argument, Banjo was forced to follow the Ojukwu's instruction and start his onward march to the Western Region on the 12th of August. His troops were only able to enter the region on the 17th of August. The 17 of August also happens to be the same day Wole Soyinka was arrested and imprisoned for 22 months by the Nigerian government. He was arrested in the West, but obviously taken to a prison in Kaduna. Read into that what you will. By the 18th of August Banjo and his troops were stopped at Ore and his troops would occupy that part of the Western region for a further month. Ojukwu would summon him back to hq on the 19th and clandestinely execute him on the 22nd September, this was 2 or 3 days after Nigeria had started their counteroffensive (from about 3 fronts simultaneously) and successfully taken back the Midwest with the help and participation of the indigenous non-Igbos of the region. These are facts that can be verified, but we know it is better to stick with your propaganda that states you have been wronged from the beginning of history and it is all Yoruba peoples fault as you have no blame in the matter at all. 6 Likes 1 Share |
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seanfer: The truth is almost no properly trained Nigerian officer of that era believed in secession. Most of them were trained overseas, with other tribes and due to the military, had lived in other areas of Nigeria and were properly exposed. They were more "Nigerian" than any set of people to walk this earth. They all became secessionist later because of power grabs and selfishness, and just like the Northerner officers proved when their coup was successful and they could have seceeded like they claimed they wanted to, the allure of lording it over the rest of Nigeria is to difficult to resist. Nigeria has always been a state by "capture" and we all know who has popularised that saying. Truly it is unfortunate that we are doomed to keep repeating the mistakes of history. 1 Like |
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Igbophobia: I actually thought you were sane and rational after your initial reply to me, only for you, like your brothers, have your DNA overpower your "intellect" and reveal itself. So the first coup in Nigeria that included 95% of the participants being Igbo and that installed an Igbo leader ensuring no Igbo political leader received a scratch while killing Northern politicians, Western politicians and South South Politicians wasn't an Igbo coup? What do you people actually define as bravery self....clearly taking responsibility for your actions isn't included in your definition and understanding of courage In my life I have never heard a single Northerner, no matter how feeble and weak intellectually he may be, refer to the 2nd coup as not being a Northern Coup. Not for one day were they so deluded and dishonest to say we killed all the Southerners we did to "save Nigeria". It was revenge and a power grab and they made it clear from day one, no pretentiousness. Till today their children hold their heads high and accept what their fathers did without trying to rewrite history and crying everywhere. Well you can try to deceive others, and even try to think you can deceive yourselves; however God knows the truth and so does every other unbiased person who chooses just to use a miniscule fraction of their brain cells without succumbing to victim mentality/paralysis. Imagine, men that cannot take responsibility for their actions after almost 60 years! No wonder it's your women like Bianca that actually have the reputation for bravery and outspokenness that people actually notice, clearly someone had to step up and fill the vacuum, as your soft spoken duplicitous males are yet to do so!! 5 Likes 1 Share |
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^^You are wasting your time with someone like him....even if his grandfather was an eyewitness to it, he would spit in his face and call him a liar seeing as the narrative doesn't fit the hate he grew up in and obviously he's struggling to think for himself. One thing I don't get about this Biafran coup is who was meant to take over from Ojukwu? Surely after the recent events of the first coup (in Nigeria) no normal human being would plan a coup without being sure who they wanted to take over and install. No soldier (particularly Ifeajuna) would be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice. So definitely if they had someone that was to replace Ojukwu I would imagine it would be someone senior who they respect.....which leaves only Banjo. So now I ask, does it make sense that Banjo, would plan a coup to put himself in power in Biafra? Could his brain have been so fried that he would think Igbo and other Easterners would listen to him and instruct their kith and kin to follow him to war/surrender?! Someone should please educate me on who was meant to take over, because unless Banjo was planning a coup for his junior (which is also madness and totally unheard of in the military) I must say it really looks unbelievable that he would have been involved, that's if their was even a coup in the first place. 10 Likes 1 Share |
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CharlotteFlair:LOL, you people will never understand us. Bode George's lineage is from Ogun state, and so is the original Tinubu family (not BAT). |
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christistruth01: You hit the nail on the head, his mother is undoubtedly from Osun state, he identifies with the people. Tinubu's story is similar. However ingratitude is something true Yoruba people abhor, so Aregbe should stop pretending to be more catholic than the pope. 2 Likes |
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He had already prepared us for his double life earlier. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/6450544/reno-omokri-dont-know-polygamy |
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Amuochicha: I pray God heals you of your serious issues. |
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hammer0: Zik ensured the removal of the secession clause proposed by Awolowo as insurance. Read history properly before you argue blindly, or should I pull out another interview for you confirming it? Modify: Actually Zik does it again in the same interview: https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/3880002/role-civil-way-zik Again, , however, when the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual. That was when we began to use that expression - ‘The Indivisibility and perpetuity of the federation’ - and that to secede would amount to treason. And so, a debate ensued. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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hammer0: It is not the Yorubas fault that you were not taught or refused to learn history when you were in school In 1953, Saradunna and majority of the north wanted to leave Nigeria. Awolowo was fine with this as he felt a shared destiny with the North would hold Southern Nigeria back and gave silent approval. The great Zik of Africa was the one that insisted they should not leave and Nigeria must remain a federation. He then went on to sway Awo and make promises to the North... and the rest is history. Even if you don't believe me here is an interview from your kinsman Zik confirming it. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/3881467/nnamdi-azikiwe-prevented-north-seceding So please, tell me who the problem of Nigeria is? Maybe its the people who irrationally always think they are superior and they can use the perceived weaknesses of their neighbours against them for their gain. 4 Likes |
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Well done all of you, well done. May the spirits of the two men forgive you all. |
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Area4Area: When we try and be our brother's keeper and tell them of their weaknesses, they laugh at us and call it jealousy. Nigerians have been collecting top post in Liberia since time in memorial with no issues.... But when its their turn see what happens. Now just to buttress this, see a similar thread on this forum years back, for two "Nigerians" (one Northerner and one Yorubaman) who both were honoured by being the head of the ARMED FORCES in that same "hostile" "ungrateful" Liberia .... pls note the reaction of the respective kinsmen on the thread. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/59279/nigerian-general-appointed-liberian-army Now compare and contrast to the wonderful respone from our "special" brothers here who did not even allow the ink to dry on their brother's nomination form before they inadvertently settled his case for him When we try and correct them they will say it is jealousy and only Biafra can solve their problems ![]() 52 Likes 6 Shares |
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TylerDurden: The problem is you are not speaking the truth, but just sounding like a pained person looking for someone to blame for all his problems. Though I agree with you that practically all our founding politicians laid the foundation for Nigeria's malaise they were clearly not disasters like the later generations would and continue to prove to be. Yoruba Obas/leaders are removed if they fail to respect themselves and are failures. We've always had this as part of our history and culture, hundreds of years before Awo ever came on the scene. One thing we understand from Yoruba culture is that no one, which includes our leaders, knows everything or is infallible . Thus we expect leaders to make mistakes and have shortcomings, popular ones will be forgiven and the incapable ones will be abandoned and forgotten. That's why all our Heroes and even Myths are realistic and have stories of highs and lows- we don't worship/adore/idolize humans who don't realize they are human. Here's an article from Vanguard showing different high profile cases that happened in the time of written history. The ups and down of each Oba is typical in our culture. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/obas-go-exile/ as for the Alaafin's father's case, here's more flesh for those who can't bother to use the link. BETWEEN BODE THOMAS AND OBA ADENIRAN ADEYEMI: WHEN A MAN BARKS TO DEATH |
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Hello Lukmon, please give me a quote for the item below and how fast you think this will reach here due to the current situation of Corona. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000449536322.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.154531295fuRlf&algo_pvid=53e80fd2-1098-4a6e-8421-f2e10ac28e34&algo_expid=53e80fd2-1098-4a6e-8421-f2e10ac28e34-7&btsid=0ab6f81e15839249350537677e65df&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ |
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darfay: Bad English is poor English, and there is no excuse. Travel around and you'll appreciate that every nationalty drops bombs including the English. However we in Nigeria stick out for our love of unnecessary tautology and outrageous grammar while keeping a straight face! 10 Likes 3 Shares |
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Great post @OP. One of the most annoying is "cunny", to think most of the people who drop these kind of bombs will be feeling cocky with themselves while talking rubbish! 13 Likes 1 Share |
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Nigerian institutions keep failing us over and over again. Might is always right in this country and that is truly disgusting. Pathetic. 4 Likes |
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OLAADEGBU: I 100% agree with him, the gullible sheeple are the cause of all these fake MOGs littering the place. However I must say that even Bakare has made his own popular prophecies that did not come true and thats why I don't take him serious as an MOG either. 10 Likes |
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kerzhim: Here's hoping he does a better job than twitter President Atiku. Imagine wasting all our time with server results, a hypocritical npower witness and another idiot that claims they have evidence he beat Buhari in Katsina!! Honestly those who the gods want to destroy they first make mad, lol. 2 Likes |
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AndroBlaze: Why are you getting heated over the rantings of a confirmed drug addict? The son a coward and serial betrayer; full brother to a raging homo-sexual. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2210917/ffk-should-tell-us-fathers https://www.okayafrica.com/rotimi-fani-kayode-london-tiwani-contemporary.amp Any misguided son of Oduduwa that wants to follow the lost cause (FFK) into battle is welcome to do so. 3 Likes |
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Justing1: Easily one of the best replies on Nairaland ever !! 4 Likes |
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highskies: Your link and this thread below are major reasons why he has reached that rank. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/5019573/inside-secret-meeting-army-officers He has been an officer's officer and has given total loyalty to his C in C and thus his unprecedented elevation. 1 Like |
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9jahotblog: I will agree that this was probably the correct decision if you agree that the supreme court had no right to punish the people of Zamfara for observing the Court of Appeal ruling that APC waa allowed to participate in the election. I will agree if you also agree that at worst what the SC should have done was cancel the election and call for a new one excluding APC instead of giving victory to an unpopular party that barely scored 20%. 3 Likes |
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This has been a bad year for wailers! On a serious note though I wish this case was not settled on mere technicalities and more on the substance of who actually won and our electoral laws. Just like I wished the overwhelming majority of people in Zamfara were not unfairly disenfranchised and that Rivers State had a real contest. Our Supreme court needs to be far more serious and fair to all. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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A similar thread was already removed for posting this rubbish. How long are you COZA faithful going to continue like this without a shred of even internet evidence? He boasted about disvirginning a lady who already gave birth for him out of wedlock? You people don't even know how to tell lies. 2 Likes |
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chiedu7: The news is almost over a year ago, is FFK now unable to understand the word "recently'. https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/pleateau-group-welcomes-removal-of-atolagbe-as-commander-operation-safe-haven-262795.html |
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9jadopestgist: The INTERNET never forgets. Post a link so we can confirm instead of all this rubbish chatter. 2 Likes |
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bankylan: Lazy Nigerian youth and your lazy Nigerian Friend!!. In less than 5 mins on google three links to the actual wedding. http://thenet.ng/photos-timi-dakolo-wedding-pictures/ https://naijagists.com/timi-dakalo-marries-girlfriend/ https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/85913/timi-dakolo-weds-today.html Now provide me a link from 2012 that confirms that COZA agreed to marry this lady that already had a child out of wedlock in their church and surprise her with a car to keep encouraging her!!! Rubbish! 1 Like |
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ADAMUdaCOWBOY: Listening properly to one side of the story will at least let you know somethings are not possible. Marrying in COZA and a car wedding gift are not possible as clearly Fatoyinbo was not happy with the way things ended with the girl he allegedly turned into a woman while "anointing" her simultaneously! Also do you not think that would have been the first thing he put in his original reply? Any judge seeing that would definitely look at the woman as being compromised. People don't want to think with their head on this matter and all they want to do is rely on the fact that the allegations have come to light late and the guy is successful and handsome to defend him. Is he more successful than Bill Cosby or Weinstein? Rubbish. |
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