NewStats: 3,259,224 , 8,169,511 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 11:12 AM 4i353v

Kennyswagz1:
did you just call nobel just an award FYI the nobel prize is the higest prize you will ever receive in your field.. soyinka is the only african to have won it in the academic field, other Africans have only won it for peace..

And the father of African literature is who

Kennyswagz1:
did you just call nobel just an award FYI the nobel prize is the higest prize you will ever receive in your field.. soyinka is the only african to have won it in the academic field, other Africans have only won it for peace..

List ten Nobel laureates that are influential than chinua Achebe till date.

I hope you know art is subjective.

We are not talking about science here. We are talking a very subjective area like arts.

The Nobel committee in their subjective opinion gave Soyinka a Nobel in arts.
There are other top literary awards that Soyinka did not and will never win.
It is subjective.

The test of greatness transcends all that.

STILESGANG:
Greatest without any accolades?.Baba stick to your village meeting.The Nobel prize is the highest honour in academics or scientific advances.I think I would take that over some meaningless title that has no bearing like “the father of African literature”

So who is the Greatest African Writer of all time
And who says he doesnt have any accolades

Well, google is your friend

Let's see were afonja and wailers/ipod won't quarrel


Names we give or selves.



Amways the Ife art above is a cut of extraordinary genius

TSRC:

List ten Nobel laureates that are influential than chinua Achebe till date.

I hope you know art is subjective.

We are not talking about science here. We are talking a very subjective area like arts.

The Nobel committee in their subjective opinion gave Soyinka a Nobel in arts.
There are other top literary awards that Soyinka did not and will never win.
It is subjective.

The test of greatness transcends all that.

Even chimamanda is more better than achebe..

Kennyswagz1:
did you just call nobel just an award FYI the nobel prize is the higest prize you will ever receive in your field.. soyinka is the only african to have won it in the academic field, other Africans have only won it for peace..

this tn really pain ds guys o.
Yet when Wole won ds award, he won it as a nigerian and for Nigeria. Now look at how ds bigots are trying so hard to belittle d award because he's not their kinsman.

TSRC:

Chinua Achebe book is studied in high schools and colleges in America.
Even chimmanda books are now becoming doctrine.

I know Soyinka is the greatest from Yoruba land, but sorry, people don am.

that has always been d grouse and nothing more......lolz.
I feel ur pain bro,, I really do

Osagyefo98:
More like a writer true to her pen and a literature political professor pictured together.

Soyinka should just enter into politics and stop pretending. All his books are hardly more than 53 pages or thereabout.

You are very ignorant.

Wole Soyinka is more of a playwright than a novelist. Plays are usually short because they are written to be acted on stage so you can't afford to bore people with long plays.When a playwright sets out to write, he has to think about writing a play that can be acted in the space of one hour. So, the typical play is usually 50-60 pages (about 1 hour of acting time). That should be around 20-25,000 words.

If you have ever read Soyinka's prose, none of Achebe's books are as voluminous.

It was even Achebe who wrote very slim books. His Things Fall Apart is just 150 pages while Soyinka's Season of Anomy is over 300 pages.

Aside There was a Country , none of Achebe's works go beyond 250 pages.

Some of Soyinka's works, using original copies:

Season of Anomy - over 300 pages.

The Man Died - over 400 pages

The Interpreters - over 300 pages

Ake - over 200 pages.

We Must Set Forth at Dawn - over 500 pages.

Achebe's books:

Things Fall Apart - 150 pages

Arrow of God - over 200 pages.

No Longer at Ease - over 200 pages (due to the large font)

A Man of the People - over 150 pages.

Anthills of the Savannah - over 200 pages.

There Was a Country - over 400 pages.

Makuos19:

And the father of African literature is who

No one knows.

It was Nadine Gordimer who called Achebe father of modern African literature. How the word of just one person became the truth for you is beyond me.

richie240:



this tn really pain ds guys o.
Yet when Wole won ds award, he won it as a nigerian and for Nigeria. Now look at how ds bigots are trying so hard to belittle d award because he's not their kinsman.


that has always been d grouse and nothing more......lolz.
I feel ur pain bro,, I really do

Bro do you know that when Soyinka won that award in 1986, the igbos called him a Mad professor?

Kennyswagz1:
Bro do you know that when Soyinka won that award in 1986, the igbos called him a Mad professor?

lolz......can u imagine.

TSRC:

Even the oyibo that gave him the nobel prize call Achebe the father of African literature.
His books are read in any and every western country on earth as a reference point.

An Ethiopian politician just won the Nobel prize this month. It doesn't mean he and Achebe are now mates in this world.

It was Nadine Gordimer (an African) who called Achebe father of modern African literature. It was just the opinion of one person.

And Nadine Gordimer was never a member of the Nobel Committee.

You people are just ignorant. At least, read well before coming publicly to display excruciating ignorance.

richie240:

lolz......can u imagine.

Bro i tire for this people ooh.. not that achebe was ever nominated

TSRC:

He won a Nobel prize for peace same as an Iraqi girl.
Doesn't make him the most peaceful man in Africa.

Same with Soyinka.

Wole Soyinka Nobel prize for Literature not Peace. Obviously not the same.

TSRC:

List ten Nobel laureates that are influential than chinua Achebe till date.

I hope you know art is subjective.

We are not talking about science here. We are talking a very subjective area like arts.

The Nobel committee in their subjective opinion gave Soyinka a Nobel in arts.
There are other top literary awards that Soyinka did not and will never win.
It is subjective.

The test of greatness transcends all that.

Influential is subjective too.

And even the greatness of scientific discoveries are subjective as well. One person might feel that one discovery is more relevant than the other, which may not necessarily be so.

Only Igbos have problems with the 1986 Nobel Prize in Literature. Go to the Nobel website and you would see that even though the Nobel Prize has generated controversies with some writers that they gave the Prizes to, no one had a problem with Soyinka getting it in 1986.

The Nobel Prize in Literature had been Eurocentric until 1986, and in 1986, the Committee decided to open up the prize to writers from other continents. The Committee unanimously agreed on Soyinka. In some instances, they fight over choices. But in the case of Soyinka, they all agreed that as at that time, he was the most relevant nonEuropean writer.

Tomide007:

Campaigning for Johnathan in 2015 and Buhari in 2019 shows that the legend is not a good politician, they were both huge mistakes .

A good politician wins..

I think he won then

Osagyefo98:
More like a writer true to her pen and a literature political professor pictured together.

Soyinka should just enter into politics and stop pretending. All his books are hardly more than 53 pages or thereabout.

An illiterate has just exposed his ignorance on Nairaland again...

Carlyboi:
Baba don old o it clearly shows on his face now...it’s just nature’s course anyways!

85 year old man. Most people forget.

TSRC:

Chinua Achebe book is studied in high schools and colleges in America.
Even chimmanda books are now becoming doctrine.

I know Soyinka is the greatest from Yoruba land, but sorry, people don am.

Let me break it down for you.

Chinua Achebe's books are studied in secondary schools, whilst Wole Soyinka's books, even by nature of their complexity, are studied as Ph.D treatise.

BluntBoy:


No one knows.

It was Nadine Gordimer who called Achebe father of modern African literature. How the word of just one person became the truth for you is beyond me.

Really?
So why didnt he called Soyinka"father of modern african literature"

Achebe's book is interpreted in more than 50 languages of the world....how many Soyinka's book has been interpreted

Even Soyinka with his nobel prize is still crying because of the title conferred on Achebe....

DuxofMen:



Let me break it down for you.

Chinua Achebe's books are studied in secondary schools, whilst Wole Soyinka's books, even by nature of their complexity, are studied as Ph.D treatise.

In your dreams.
Go to any arts faculty in any university in the western world and see if you would not find Achebe among the recommended text.

On the other hand, Soyinka books as good as they are, are studied in Nigeria only, if they are studied at all.

BluntBoy:


Influential is subjective too.

And even the greatness of scientific discoveries are subjective as well. One person might feel that one discovery is more relevant than the other, which may not necessarily be so.

Only Igbos have problems with the 1986 Nobel Prize in Literature. Go to the Nobel website and you would see that even though the Nobel Prize has generated controversies with some writers that they gave the Prizes to, no one had a problem with Soyinka getting it in 1986.

The Nobel Prize in Literature had been Eurocentric until 1986, and in 1986, the Committee decided to open up the prize to writers from other continents. The Committee unanimously agreed on Soyinka. In some instances, they fight over choices. But in the case of Soyinka, they all agreed that as at that time, he was the most relevant nonEuropean writer.

There is nothing subjective about being influential.

Achebe is more popular than Soyinka in the world on the basis of literature.
He is the most translated African author of all times.
What is subjective about that?

The Nobel is just one award. I don't understand your obsession with it.
It is probably because that is your only claim to influence for Soyinka.

Achebe won other numerous literary awards.

Makuos19:


Really?
So why didnt he called Soyinka"father of modern african literature"

Achebe's book is interpreted in more than 50 languages of the world....how many Soyinka's book has been interpreted

Even Soyinka with his nobel prize is still crying because of the title conferred on Achebe....

Rhapsody of Realities by Chris Oyakhilome has 1000 translations. By your logic, it is greater than Things Fall Apart abi no be so

Soyinka was not jealous. Rather, he educated illiterates like you.

Modern African Literature did not begin in 1957 when Achebe published his Things Fall Apart. It began long before that.

Moreover, Achebe is called father of modern African literature not because he was a great writer, but because he was fortunate to be the first African to publish an African novel written in English which saw great success in England. Also, he began the African Writers Series which helped many African writers get published. It is more like Ali Baba who is respected in Nigeria comedy. I don't find him funny, but he is respected solely on the fact that stand-up comedy in Nigeria owe him a lot.

So, that appellation does not have a place in African literature. No other continent goes about saying "father of modern European literature/ father of modern American literature"

Literature flows, and it is hard to tell when modernity got mixed up into it.

Go to Google and type "father of modern European literature" and the results you would get are about "father of modern African literature".

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

TSRC:

In your dreams.
Go to any arts faculty in any university in the western world and see if you would not find Achebe among the recommended text.

On the other hand, Soyinka books as good as they are, are studied in Nigeria only, if they are studied at all.

so are you trying to say Toni Morrison's books not been studied makes achebe better than Her

TSRC:

There is nothing subjective about being influential.

Achebe is more popular than Soyinka in the world on the basis of literature.
He is the most translated African author of all times.
What is subjective about that?

The Nobel is just one award. I don't understand your obsession with it.
It is probably because that is your only claim to influence for Soyinka.

Achebe won other numerous literary awards.

Lol bri check achebe and soyinka awards.. soyinka has more awards than achebe

BluntBoy:


Rhapsody of Realities by Chris Oyakhilome has 1000 translations. By your logic, it is greater than Things Fall Apart abi no be so

Soyinka was not jealous. Rather, he educated illiterates like you.

Modern African Literature did not begin in 1957 when Achebe published his Things Fall Apart. It began long before that.

Moreover, Achebe is called father of modern African literature not because he was a great writer, but because he was fortunate to be the first African to publish an African novel written in English which saw great success in England. Also, he began the African Writers Series which helped many African writers get published. It is more like Ali Baba who is respected in Nigeria comedy. I don't find him funny, but he is respected solely on the fact that stand-up comedy in Nigeria owe him a lot.

So, that appellation does not have a place in African literature. No other continent goes about saying "father of modern European literature/ father of modern American literature"

Literature flows, and it is hard to tell when modernity got mixed up into it.

Go to Google and type "father of modern European literature" and the results you would get are about "father of modern African literature".

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

stop schooling those niggers.. I ask them if achebe is also better than Toni Morrison because her works are not popular

TSRC:

There is nothing subjective about being influential.

Achebe is more popular than Soyinka in the world on the basis of literature.
He is the most translated African author of all times.
What is subjective about that?

The Nobel is just one award. I don't understand your obsession with it.
It is probably because that is your only claim to influence for Soyinka.

Achebe won other numerous literary awards.

Nothing subjective?

OK, tell me why you think Achebe is more influential than Soyinka?

Rhapsody of Realities by Chris Oyakhilome is currently the most translated book after the Holy Bible. By your logic, Chris Oyakhilome is the most influential author out of Africa, abi no be so?

Soyinka was once head of the drama society in the world, he was once head of the editorial team of the Encyclopedia Britannica. He has contributed over 30 plays to Literature, and he is published everywhere from Oxford to Cambridge University presses, while Achebe is published only with Heinemann.

So, I don't understand what you mean by influential. Does influential mean having the most translated book?

In Literature, Soyinka is more influential in drama and poetry. Achebe's only claim to greatness is one book.

When people talk about playwrights, they can never miss calling Soyinka. But in prose, they may not even Achebe. More books are getting translations and Things Fall Apart is dropping on the list. Very soon, it won't even be noticed.

Soyinka would continue to be ed as the first black African winner of the coveted Nobel Prize in Literature.

BluntBoy:


Rhapsody of Realities by Chris Oyakhilome has 1000 translations. By your logic, it is greater than Things Fall Apart abi no be so

Soyinka was not jealous. Rather, he educated illiterates like you.

Modern African Literature did not begin in 1957 when Achebe published his Things Fall Apart. It began long before that.

Moreover, Achebe is called father of modern African literature not because he was a great writer, but because he was fortunate to be the first African to publish an African novel written in English which saw great success in England. Also, he began the African Writers Series which helped many African writers get published. It is more like Ali Baba who is respected in Nigeria comedy. I don't find him funny, but he is respected solely on the fact that stand-up comedy in Nigeria owe him a lot.

So, that appellation does not have a place in African literature. No other continent goes about saying "father of modern European literature/ father of modern American literature"

Literature flows, and it is hard to tell when modernity got mixed up into it.

Go to Google and type "father of modern European literature" and the results you would get are about "father of modern African literature".

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

So Raphaody of reality is a literary work?
And how do you come about 1000 translations
And thank you for accepting that He is the father of modern literature - Greater than Soyinka

Continue to wail

Makuos19:

So Raphaody of reality is a literary work?
And how do you come about 1000 translations
And thank you for accepting that He is the father of modern literature - Greater than Soyinka

Seems like you have comprehension problems.

Why bring in the translation angle when you know it doesn't matter? Is the worth of book determined by number of translations?

By your logic, Rhapsody of Realities is the best Christian book.

Makuos19:

So Raphaody of reality is a literary work?
And how do you come about 1000 translations
And thank you for accepting that He is the father of modern literature - Greater than Soyinka

Continue to wail

BluntBoy:


Seems like you have comprehension problems.

Why bring in the translation angle when you know it doesn't matter? Is the worth of book determined by number of translations?

By your logic, Rhapsody of Realities is the best Christian book.

Hahaha...
You are the one that has comprehension problems.
Soyinka won the nobel prize. While Achebe is called "father of modern literature" because his book is the most widely read in the world - meaning his book is greater than Soyinka's book.

Messy & Ronaldo has won more awards than Pele...Yet because of Pele's achievement, Pele is still greater than Messy & Ronaldo

BluntBoy:

Thank you for that...
Now it says "he is one of the finest".... not the finest!!!

So my question to u is, who is the finest

Makuos19:

Thank you for that...
Now it says "he is one of the finest".... not the finest!!!

So my question to u is, who is the finest

One of the finest in the world, not one of the finest African.

As in, in the history of playwrighting, Soyinka is one of the finest.

Show me where Achebe has been described as one of the finest writers (not African writer)?