NewStats: 3,262,255 , 8,176,625 topics. Date: Sunday, 01 June 2025 at 03:42 PM m4c4a

zuchyblink:
Who will be our next RB? AwAziem, Omeruo, Balogun or aina?

Aina.

komekn:


NO THEY DO NOT.

Again talkin from first hand experience.

They create the delusion of Opportunity but there is none. They put you in a unrealistic comfort zone, you will be paid very well to stay in the illusion of opportunity. Sometimes £15-25k a week it's a very nice and comfortable Illusion that keeps you deluded.

Once you hit 16/17 you need to.be playing first team football irrespective of the level. That will propel your development. Playing youth football will stunt your growth, development and progress.

In addition another problem is that at the top clubs youth academies you are playing " pretty football " technical and nice with fantastic pitches and good referee's. You go on European tours to the creme de La creme of Europe's elite clubs. It's very nice.

However, you are not prepared for the, Nitty Gritty Hard Knocks, Fight and die football outside of the EPL.

Outside of the EPL you will essentially fight for the ball you will not get diagonal through balls that split defences. It's now police game. It's kick and rush it's very ugly. These academy boys are not prepared for that.

These top EPL clubs are only looking at 3/4 players in each year from age 9/10 to U23 that's barely 15%, as potential first team players. The rest 35% are business transactions to be sold to other clubs if possible and the bottom 50% segment are there to make up the numbers to be released for nothing when they are no longer useful. HARSH REALITY.

In a smaller club they simply don't have the money to keep players on and in comfort. They academy intrinsic to thier survival and part of the club's business plan modek for viability. There is little room for engers.

Once you hit 16/17 and if any good you are in the first team. Then if you have a good season you are kept on as a huge asset to be sold for big money at the right time. Example at Fulham are Dembele, Ryan Ssegnon, or at Charlton Ademola, Gomez, etc.

Sometimes the players are hyped ( marketing) to generate interest from the big clubs and we quickly sold before they find out they are not that good.

So if l was advising a young player, depending on his position and unique skill set. I would be choosing a smaller club with REAL OPPORTUNITY not the ILLUSION of opportunity.

When you get your REAL OPPORTUNITY if you can play good quality technical football in that agricultural kick and rush league. You are getting the best training available. It's very hard to be playing technical football when you are Surrounded by hatchet men and carpenterd. But if you can. Well when you get to the EPL you will find it much easier and will excel.

Current examples are Leicester city midfielder Maddison now killing it in the EPL.

Speculative examples are Luton Town 21 years old James Justin LB wanted by many in the EPL. Price seems to be in excess of £12 million a player who played league one.

For a Maddison and Justin, City can talk Of Angelino, Denayer, Maffeo, Karim Rekik, Boyata, Guidetti, Marcos Lopes, Brahim Diaz, Jadon Sancho and a host of others who gained good education and are in better spotlights than those players in the kick and rush league.


Even the smaller clubs discard players and the rate of quality talents churned out can not be compared to the top clubs.

Look at Chelsea with Solanke, Musonda, Tammy Abraham, Ampadu, Chalobah, Jeremy Boga and a host of others. You can not say the smaller clubs gave their players better opportunities.

Players stand better chances if they have quality in bigger clubs than the small clubs. By far.

forgiveness:


If UEFA coefficient is babash, what do we call your opinion? Gurumaraji!? Bhuhahahaha!

As at the time Celestine Babayaro played in the EPL it was a Mickey mouse league because it was outside the top 5 leagues in the world.

As at the time, Taye Taiwo played in the Ligue 1, it was the 4th best league in the world and Marseille was UEFA cup finalists.

As I said, it is only googling and arguing. If you followed football in any way, you will not say this in public. Which French club had the kind of clout to sign players like the EPL.

You are just running keys.

Type the top five players in the French league at that period and let me type those of the EPL.

komekn:


Ravel l know well his problem was simply INDISCIPLINE.

Player was of Ghanaian origin if I'm right, just checked now. John Cofie now 26+, he played with Pogba and like l said, Man U paid £1 million pounds for him then, he was actually only 14.

Did not hear of him. Interesting to know.

TheGoodJoe:


It was a 1996 rating and by then, had top quality players. They featured well in Euro 1996, in their pool, they had the likes of Karembu, Ibrahim Ba, Eric Cantona, David Ginola, Cristoph Dugarry, Didier Dechamps, Lama, Barthez and a host of super stars.

Do not mind forgiveness, he knows Chelsea was not mediocre in any way under Babayaro. He is just trying hard to deceive himself that Taiwo was King, when he was in a mickey mouse league compared to Babayaro who was dining with the Kings.

The 1996 ranking had nothing to do with the French national team. Gbam.

Taiwo played in the fourth best league in the world and for the UEFA cup finalist team. But Celestine Babayaro played in the 7th best league in the world as at the time he ed. Finito

Keep fooling yourself. Facts don't lie.

forgiveness:



The 1996 ranking had nothing to do with the French national team. Gbam.

Taiwo played in the fourth best league in the world and for the UEFA cup finalist team. But Celestine Babayaro played in the 7th best league in the world as at the time he ed. Finito

Keep fooling yourself. Facts don't lie.

Look at the money league clubs of 1997/1998. No French club entered when we are talking of big teams. Chelsea was there. Four English teams. There is no trick you can play. The gulf in class between the EPL and Ligue 1 did not start today. Babayaro was with the Big boys.

Not even one French team.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

forgiveness:



The 1996 ranking had nothing to do with the French national team. Gbam.

Taiwo played in the fourth best league in the world and for the UEFA cup finalist team. But Celestine Babayaro played in the 7th best league in the world as at the time he ed. Finito

Keep fooling yourself. Facts don't lie.

These were the clubs you will find the stars and top players in the whole of Europe and you want people to believe Babayaro played in an average team.

It is not people like me who followed football well at that time you can deceive. Taiwo was in a mickey mouse league and never robbed shoulders with the big boys.

Mickael2:


So you want him to pick Omeruo ahead of Koulibaly? Abi Chukwueze ahead of Keita Balde?

I would like to presume that the so many informative, substantive, thought provoking contributions that so many have made here. Will educate and even reorientate many to become appreciatively enlightened.

But I seem to be overly optimistic and many still remain quite happily in blissful ignorance with pride.

Talking Ligue 1. What a joke.

TheGoodJoe:


As I said, it is only googling and arguing. If you followed football in any way, you will not say this in public. Which French club had the kind of clout to sign players like the EPL.

You are just running keys.

Type the top five players in the French league at that period and let me type those of the EPL.

Stats don't lie but you lied.

According to 1996 UEFA ranking, EPL was ranked 7th while Ligue 1 was ranked 2nd best league in the world. EPL was a Mickey mouse league as at the time Celestine Babayaro ed. That's the undiluted facts you can never change. Sorry.

For your information, UEFA league ranking is not by caliber of players or money but by the performance of each leagues representatives in UEFA competitions over 5 years.

The 1996 UEFA ranking poved that Ligue 1 teams performed better than EPL teams in the UEFA competitions in the last previous 5 seasons EOD

TheGoodJoe:


These were the clubs you will find the stars and top players in the whole of Europe and you want people to believe Babayaro played in an average team.

It is not people like me who followed football well at that time you can deceive. Taiwo was in a mickey mouse league and never robbed shoulders with the big boys.

You sabi UEFA? Or you know football UEFA? Before dem born you, UEFA don dey run ranking tey tey but you dey here dey claim I sabi UEFA.

Big boys wey no fit make EPL ranking reach top 5 as at 1996.

TheGoodJoe:
Talking Ligue 1. What a joke.

As at the time Celestine Babayaro ed EPL in 1996/1997, EPL was a joke. It was the 7th league in the world while Ligue 1 was the 2nd best league in the world according to UEFA ranking.

TheGoodJoe:



Look at the money league clubs of 1997/1998. No French club entered when we are talking of big teams. Chelsea was there. Four English teams. There is no trick you can play. The gulf in class between the EPL and Ligue 1 did not start today. Babayaro was with the Big boys.

Not even one French team.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

If there was gulf in class it should have reflected on the UEFA ranking but sorry, EPL was not among the top 3 best leagues in the world as at 1996, not to talk of top 5 best leagues in the world. EPL was down the pecking order.

Unlike Ligue 1 that was the second best league in the world.

forgiveness:


As at the time Celestine Babayaro ed EPL in 1996/1997, EPL was a joke. It was the 7th league in the world while Ligue 1 was the 2nd best league in the world according to UEFA ranking.

Can you guys jus create your own thread about Babayaro and Taye Taiwo, argue there and come back here when you are done.
Arguing as if either of these left backs will be drafted into the team for the next match.
For me I'll prefer Lord Rohr moves Aina back to the right while Collins should start on the left although Aina perfoms better when he's on the left.

Koboko99:


Can you guys jus create your own thread about Babayaro and Taye Taiwo, argue there and come back here when you are done.
Arguing as if either of these left backs will be drafted into the team for the next match.
For me I'll prefer Lord Rohr moves Aina back to the right while Collins should start on the left although Aina perfoms better when he's on the left.

Okay na.

If Collins is fit, he should be drafted back into the team.

Please who knows whether Kwese is showing the AFCON

Al those guys that use to scream "aveeeerrrraaaage" and Lamentations bla bla.. wit big letter L... Wer are they sef... I think 1 of them is from animal kingdom i cant d name.. something something "bear" cnt

forgiveness:


Stats don't lie but you lied.

According to 1996 UEFA ranking, EPL was ranked 7th while Ligue 1 was ranked 2nd best league in the world. EPL was a Mickey mouse league as at the time Celestine Babayaro ed. That's the undiluted facts you can never change. Sorry.

For your information, UEFA league ranking is not by caliber of players or money but by the performance of each leagues representatives in UEFA competitions over 5 years.

The 1996 UEFA ranking poved that Ligue 1 teams performed better than EPL teams in the UEFA competitions in the last previous 5 seasons EOD

You have seen with your eyes. Finito. French Ligue 1. What a joke.

TheGoodJoe:


You have seen with your eyes. Finito. French Ligue 1. What a joke.

This is what I saw with my eyes and it is genuine.

Let's take a moment to acknowledge the birthday of the best

The G.O.A.T

Lionel Messi

minfelix:
Al those guys that use to scream "aveeeerrrraaaage" and Lamentations bla bla.. wit big letter L... Wer are they sef... I think 1 of them is from animal kingdom i cant d name.. something something "bear" cnt

Is like you are afraid of mentioning his moniker, his name is Afobear. He only show up when we lose

Eheen afobear

Which kind yeye argument b all this 1

Those of u claiming senegal is fast ... Should also that tanzania was completely poo yesterday

forgiveness:


Stats don't lie but you lied.

According to 1996 UEFA ranking, EPL was ranked 7th while Ligue 1 was ranked 2nd best league in the world. EPL was a Mickey mouse league as at the time Celestine Babayaro ed. That's the undiluted facts you can never change. Sorry.

For your information, UEFA league ranking is not by caliber of players or money but by the performance of each leagues representatives in UEFA competitions over 5 years.

The 1996 UEFA ranking poved that Ligue 1 teams performed better than EPL teams in the UEFA competitions in the last previous 5 seasons EOD

Stats sometimes lie.

If you use stats alone, you would conclude Aiyegbeni was better than Kanu.

Yet, Kanu was rated one of Africa's Top 10 players ever.

Jarus:


Stats sometimes lie.

If you use stats alone, you would conclude Aiyegbeni was better than Kanu.

Yet, Kanu was rated one of Africa's Top 10 players ever.

Did Aiyegbeni win Africa footballer of the year twice?

Stats don't lie.

Was nairaland down??

terzurum5:

To be candid, the move that resulted to that corner kick was a clear offside but the refs and VAR allowed it to go unpunished.

This, I can't argue. I heard people scream offside before the corner. But replay was never shown, so I don't know

Bolowolowo:
Was nairaland down??

yes it was.

should Aina in LB or go back to RB once collins is fit questions questions. i think balogun should come into the starting line up if he's fit. he brings more calmness and decisiveness when he's in defence. from what i saw of the guineans they are very pacy, they like to play a high line which might change because of us. defence looks porous seem susceptible also to pace and wing play. rohr will have to do better tactics wise cos the guineans will sure not be scared of us. H2H it seems favours them however we have the tools to be them hands down

barackodam:



This, I can't argue. I heard people scream offside before the corner. But replay was never shown, so I don't know

Go back and watch the match please

forgiveness:


This is what I saw with my eyes and it is genuine.

List the star players now?

forgiveness:


As at the time Celestine Babayaro ed EPL in 1996/1997, EPL was a joke. It was the 7th league in the world while Ligue 1 was the 2nd best league in the world according to UEFA ranking.

You did not watch or know EPL 1996/97. The point you made was that Chelsea was an average side. Explain how an Average side won the FA Cup and League Cup. Explain how top stars were in the league when Babayaro was in the league. I winder why you want to kill yourself with Coefficient.

Tell me the team in during Babayaro's time that was bigger than Chelsea. Tell me the bigger players in than that of the Premier League.

No team even had money to compete in market for players. Till today, it is a Mickey mouse league.