NewStats: 3,261,697 , 8,174,820 topics. Date: Friday, 30 May 2025 at 07:55 AM 2j3h6r

War isn't a prerequisite to Biafra. He is just trying to please a certain part of the country with his statement. He is a LAWYER. He knows about independence referenda.

ikp120:

They're asking for an exit, which is 10000000% their right. Referendum is a right, not a privilege.

But what the VP is thinking about is war. Britain didn't fight with EU to exit. Scotland nko? Etc. A guy of his caliber should call for Referendum instead of sounding the trumpet of war which only exists in his head.

Bro, the Igbos have learnt, but the rest of Nigeria, including the VP, has not learnt from history.

The Igbos are doing all they can to leave. Please is it by force to remain in a nation?

Even Texas and California were once calling for their exit from USA. It's not a big deal bro.

I wonder o. How does the desire of a people to be on their own automatically mean war? The Igbos must be so important to Nigeria then. If you need me, plead with me to remain. Don't threaten or try to scare me. It won't work.

ijaws, itsekiris, urhobos, variations of Igbos? one thing that baffles me is how we are not enlightened about our diversity. I've had this observation long. The truth is our parents do not care to enlighten us. We have been brought up with these generalizations that if someone is not Hausa or yoruba they are igbos. My brother. Nigeria truly is a multi-cultural country. These many tribes are different and distinct. In fact let me inform you that the urhobos are more closely related to the edo's who are in turn more closely related to the yorubas than the igbos. The itsekiris are similar to the yorubas. The ijaws are FAR from Igbos..

Well, it's not that we are oblivious to these facts. I actually think we dont care to really do a research because the mindset is that many of the minority tribes have no significance in the scheme of things after all.

MODIFIED
I think I misunderstood you. But let others who are not well informed know.

Mujtahida:

You are right about Quebec in Canada. There's also the Catalan region in Spain, the Kurds in Turkey etc calling for self-determination.
On this your apt observation as regards language being a fault line and a fulcrum for self determination do kindly show how viable Biafra is, since to my knowledge Biafra (based on the supposed boundaries) is still going to be a mosaic, a welter of ethnic groups-Ibos abi Igbos (with its variations) ijaws, Itshekiris, Urhobos, Ekwerres, Okrikas, Efiks, Ibibios, Anangs etc. As in another Nigeria ethnically speaking.

UnchangeableGod:
I wonder o. How does the desire of a people to be on their own automatically mean war? The Igbos must be so important to Nigeria then. If you need me, plead with me to remain. Don't threaten or try to scare me. It won't work.

Listen carefully, no one wants you to stay. But you are not acheiving anything typing into this forum. Make the right moves. Stop blaming yorubas for not allowing you to breakaway, when you guys are not even making any move. Yorubas either dont care or are neutral. Few yorubas reside in the East, so how will they be affected. My own opinion is: Implore you leaders and make the right move.

Mujtahida:

[s]Na you be biafrains not me. Simple metaphor you cannot understand.
Obviously you can't reply. Bag of buffoonery. Even Biafra this Mkpor cannot spell correctly. You have been bewitched I swear. My robot, I command you, cancel it again. Ewu Gambia[/s]

Keep begging! You haven't started yet! I can't hear you...

bkool7:


No!

OK then.
I can't have a reasonable discussion with you if you can't be truthful

vantage001:
A second civil war? Where is this nincompoop getting that from?

From Nnamdi Kanu. Go listen to his Radio Biafra broadcasts before he was arrested.

xcolanto:

Keep begging! You haven't started yet! I can't hear you...

My obedient robot. Repeat after me: Keep begging, say it again. Anumanu

I can't believe a professor is saying this. history can be twisted, and records may be altered too but experience gives you a first hand knowledge.
Experience still remains the best teacher.

vantage001:

It shows that hoping that Osibanjo would be a better, more educated leader than buhari is a fools's errand.
He is as incompetent, and would without fail uphold the same old order and the same old style. He is also characteristically dull and has no mind of his own.
He does not have the balls to bring the required change or to break up the old fulani shackle- hold on our polity.

All these because he didn't say what you lots want to hear
You are a bigger foooooool

The Yorubas will not any foolish tribe who start any foolish war in Nigeria.
Igbos youth better go and read all books you can laid your hands on your failed Biafra project.
your corrupt politicians are instigating you to massacre and blood bath.
Nigeria army will not spare even your goats if you try anything called war.

xcolanto:


I for one was delusional thinking he would change the status quo and do the upright thing in being realistic about this failed contraption but alas I must have been living in a LA LA land.
He should be there aspiring to be president through an untimely death of the president meanwhile atiku a core notherner is beginning to open up that Nigerian cannot work with the current system in place.

Its a good thing he has shown where he stands and his points are duelly noted.

One thing you fools must understand is that, no body in power will ever want Nigeria to break up during their tenure.
Even if Nnamdi Kanu is opportune to handle any political post in d ZOO, he will use it to clamour for unity.

Dat is the way it is.

Now, do away with ur idiocy and put on your thinking cap . Do you think the so called unity beggers /Afonjas will suffer should Nigeria breaks up ?


If you think so, what make you think so?

Mujtahida:

[s]My obedient robot. Repeat after me: Keep begging, say it again. Anumanu[/s]

Nonsense trash!

You continue to beg for unity!

jomonic:


Millions of my people still reside in Lagos, kano etc. Wow are they not great people? Yes they have commercially conquered several cities in Nigeria. Don't you know that in Lagos, opportunities to grow and nature business abound. Your wicked policies of denying development infrastructure to other parts of Nigeria provided the stimulus for the shift of population to where you made it available. When I say knock on effect that's what I mean. That's what I mean that you hold your self to the ground when you are preventing the free spirit of another from blossoming. What you sow is what you reap a million fold. You never see anything. If you don't know they are their for this reason. These opportunities are not for the Yoruba alone. I am sorry if you find it irksome. Yes there are many options. If our agitations lead Nigeria on the road to an egalitarian society then that is the Igbo agenda because we will fit in naturally. Our traditional society is already built that way. In that case we will come to Lagos in greater numbers. Under a developed democracy we expect to have a strong say in the way Lagos is managed starting with replacement of jagaban with a moderate Yoruba and thereafter with a non-indigene starting with an Igbo perhaps. How about that.

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simplycarro: here is it

ozoemenaca:

As if you can survive without us. We dare you to try it lets see who will loose

Mention just one thing they will lose if they chase you guys out of their land.

Mention just one or you remain quiet

jomonic:

Well you are free to keep the fantasy
You must be deluded if you think others don't have their own long term plans

neocortex:


I am trying to knock off ignorance from your head,
the identity you are claiming doesn't exist.
It is not an opinion, it is a fact, if you are still confused,
kindly ask elders to tell you who you are.

I am naturally irritated by brazen display of ignorance, so I don't need to
be paid to correct such anomaly.

@ this junction i'll have to agree to disagree I usually don't like argument of any kynd but notwithstanding constructive criticism is welcomed.

Mujtahida:

You are right about Quebec in Canada. There's also the Catalan region in Spain, the Kurds in Turkey etc calling for self-determination.
On this your apt observation as regards language being a fault line and a fulcrum for self determination do kindly show how viable Biafra is, since to my knowledge Biafra (based on the supposed boundaries) is still going to be a mosaic, a welter of ethnic groups-Ibos abi Igbos (with its variations) ijaws, Itshekiris, Urhobos, Ekwerres, Okrikas, Efiks, Ibibios, Anangs etc. As in another Nigeria ethnically speaking.

I did not make any case for Biafra either. I was only pointing out how erroneous our erudite VP had been. Talking about Biafra, if it includes all the different ethnicities, then it will still be plaqued by similar problems that beset Nigeria, though to a lesser degree.

ralphelo:
The Yorubas will not any foolish tribe who start any foolish war in Nigeria.
Igbos youth better go and read all books you can laid your hands on your failed Biafra project.
your corrupt politicians are instigating you to massacre and blood bath.
Nigeria army will not spare even your goats if you try anything called war.

LWKMD!!

SIRmanjar:

House boy u don finish ur house duty?We will Give them biafria so they will leave our land filled with Gold and diamond.

I just realised that anytime you leeches hear that you will be chased away from afonja land you all develop goose pimples all of a sudden.

Why?


Does that mean that your god forsaken land locked region can't offer anything good?

jomonic:


Why is that a problem if Midwesterners are not Yoruba and they are happy to have their own region. The Zik I know promoted national integration so your claim is very unfounded. But Zik became aware of Awo's subterranean moves to ally with the Sarduana but pretended that he was open to political alliance with the east. Both Zik and Sarduana understood the nature of Awo and this served as the impetus for Igbo / Hausa alliance. Hausa people are great people. It is still possible to mend fences with them if there are no external influences. Our problem with the Hausa is solvable.

I suspect all the IPOB agitation was about how to get into the good book of the Hausa's,
it is an attention seeking ploy,
we know the real slaves of the Fulanis.

Biafrans which world are you living in? This is naija where justice, equity, fairness are non existent. You won't be able to leave the Nigeria of today and tomorrow without a war. So sad but that's the reality of things.

The way to go is to get a strong standing in the government and bring about those changes you wish to see. That's a much easier struggle.

The country all of us contributed to its situation you now want a quick escape from?

xcolanto:


So says a scratched face from the west

Seconded by a flat head Osu from the East

simplycarro:


Well you are free to keep the fantasy
You must be deluded if you think others don't have their own long term plans

yes.

latsy:


I suspect all the IPOB agitation was about how to get into the good book of the Hausa's,
it is an attention seeking ploy,
we know the real slaves of the Fulanis.

It is about the truth and keeping to the truth so your opinion is immaterial. It might evoke in you feelings of insecurity. Who cares.

Joebie:
ijaws, itsekiris, urhobos, variations of Igbos? one thing that baffles me is how we are not enlightened about our diversity. I've had this observation long. The truth is our parents do not care to enlighten us. We have been brought up with these generalizations that if someone is not Hausa or yoruba they are igbos. My brother. Nigeria truly is a multi-cultural country. These many tribes are different and distinct. In fact let me inform you that the urhobos are more closely related to the edo's who are in turn more closely related to the yorubas than the igbos. The itsekiris are similar to the yorubas. The ijaws are FAR from Igbos..

Well, it's not that we are oblivious to these facts. I actually think we dont care to really do a research because the mindset is that many of the minority tribes have no significance in the scheme of things after all.

MODIFIED
I think I misunderstood you. But let others who are not well informed know.

Yeah you clearly misunderstood me. I meant the Igbo as a distinct ethnic group with its variations. But still your piece was enlightening.

I am very well informed about our tribal and ethnic diversity. I was fortunate to have grown up on the Airforce Base in Makurdi where all the tribes lived in almost perfect unity and harmony. I had Ibos, Hausas, Tivs, Ijaws, Efiks, Angas, Idomas, Igedes, Ogajas, Yorubas, Fulanis , Itshekiris, Binis, Isans, Urhobo etc as friends, neighbours, church or classmates and even till date though we've all separated to different places, we still feel like kith and kin. Our retired parents still meet regularly.

Growing up I thoroughly enjoyed reading Chinua Achebe, Ola Rotimi (thought he was yoruba but later discovered he is from Rivers State) Elechi Amadi, J. P Clark, Christopher Okigbo, Gabriel Okara, Odia Ofeimun, Cyprian Ekwensi, Wole Soyinka, Dan Fulani, Zaynab Alkali, Abubakar Gimba, Flora Nwapa, Buchi Emecheta, Eddie Iroh, Onuorah Nzekwu, Chukwuemeka Ike and so many others I can't now (especially in the pacesetters and YAW series). I had my Uni in Zaria, served and spent six years in the south West, travelled to and spent time in pH and Calabar. I simply don't know how to be tribal or ethnic in my thinking and outlook and most people who grew up in a more cosmopolitan setting (particularly Barracks or Base people are like that too. I am a Nigerian. Till date just by looking at a person or hearing them speak I can correctly guess which tribe or ethnic group they belong to.

Regarding your point on enlightenment: for example many don't know that not everyone who is from the north is an Hausa man. They don't know that in the North you can find Jaba, Kagoro, Kataf, Tangale, Kanuri, Angas, Baju, Tarok, Miango,Nupe, Gbagyi, Berom, Zuru, Maguzawa etc etc or that even Hausa itself has linguistic variants. In short the North is as ethnically diverse as the south if not more.

Some bit of enlightenment( as you have rightly suggested) along this lines truly helps to broaden one's outlook.
We are just being cheated by our elites. As diverse as we are I believe Nigeria can work and there's enough, more than enough to go round for everybody but truly the present set up is warp up. It's no good.

nextstep:


Er what? The largest aggressors in the world, today, are the most developed: USA, UK, China, Russia, , and so on. Even now, they are rattling sabers to protect their interests. Let anybody threaten their territories or remote interests as they will remind you that they are very willing to use the so-called crude methods.
I'm not even sure what you're referring to anymore?

There are many ways of killing a rat without shedding blood.

Keep watching the movie and you would be sure to get clearer picture in no distant time as it unfolds.

Brexit was achieved via aggression

You are even well informed than myself. You can never beat experience. I doff my hat for u.

Mujtahida:

Yeah you clearly misunderstood me. I meant the Igbo as a distinct ethnic group with its variations. But still your piece was enlightening. I am very well informed about our tribal and ethnic diversity. I was fortunate to have grown up on the Airforce Base in Makurdi where all the tribes lived in almost perfect unity and harmony. I had Ibos Hausas, Tivs, Ijaws, Efiks, Angas, Idomas, Igedes, Ogajas, Yorubas, Fulani, Itshekiris, Binis, Isans etc as friends, neighbours, church or classmates even till date separated to different places we still feel like kith and kin. Our retired parents still meet regularly. Growing up I thoroughly enjoyed reading Achebe, Ola Rotimi (thought he was yoruba but later discovered he is from Rivers State) Elechi Amadi, J. P Clark, Christopher Okigbo, Gabriel Okara, Odia Ofeimun, Cyprian Ekwensi, Wole Soyinka, Dan Fulani, Zaynab Alkali, Abubakar Gimba, Flora Nwapa, Buchi Emecheta, Eddie Iroh, Onuorah Nzekwu, Chukwuemeka Ike and so many others(especially in the pacesetters and YAW series) I can't now. I had my Uni in Zaria, served and spent six years in the south West. I simply don't know how to be tribal or ethnic in my thinking and outlook. I am a Nigerian. Till date just by looking at a person or hearing them speak I can correctly guess which tribe or ethnic group they belong to.

For example many don't know that not everyone who is from the north is an Hausa man. They don't know that we have Jaba, Kagoro, Kataf, Tangale, Kanuri, Angas, Baju, Tarok, Miango, Berom, Zuru etc etc or that even Hausa itself has linguistic variants. In short the North is as ethnically diverse as the south if not more.

Some bit of enlightenment( as you have rightly suggested) along this lines truly helps to broaden one's outlook.
We are just being cheated by our elites. As diverse as we are I believe Nigeria can work and there's enough, more than enough to go round for everybody but truly the present set up is warp up. It's no good.

simplycarro:


Just two years away from serving the Northern as their tool in the South, you are already desperate to warm yourselves back to them.

You know, I'm beginning to align with those that think you guys are the real parasites in Nigeria as it stand, [b]you just can't stand been away from the center for long, the reason you want to run back to the Northerners, just to get your way back to the center [/b]

how many years have easterners been on saddle out of the 57 years of nija's nationhood?

The message is simple

Listen to Osinbajo or Get Bullets from Buratai

.. If brain de pain you, jump on the streets again

Timid nincompoops,..