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Nairaland Interschool debate: Equating HND with BSC: Winner: OAU (23546 Views)
vickylala239: 5:06pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
emaculate99: I Neva said I knw it all.... I Dnt agree with u on biafra being a nation in Nigeria... Also I want to ask....is it today that dey started rating Bsc higher dan Hnd... I want to ask you a simple question...if There is no discrimination, what will happen to that word in dictionary? Dnt call it discrimination.Bsc is Jst more preferred... If HND wants their importance over Bsc or equation.... they shuld clear Bsc doubt in their various field and job positions.... I put it to you that if Hnd holders were doing a good job most company will prefer them over Bsc...rather than cuming here to cry..urge HND holders to wake up and prove their worth in their various positions and offices....by so doing the news will spread and There will b no need for a thread like this..... If HND holders had done their work well....we all we hear it from bloggers,net etc.. The truth is this wen you are good you Dnt need to talk abt it bt Ppl will talk abt you and recommend you.... For you to even say that the federal government shuld equate Bsc with HND.. it means you Hv d knowledge that Bsc is higher... You said I shuld not call Wat is done here waste of tym....when this is achieve within one month or this thread deliberated on in Senate... then I with say we actually did not waste our tym...Bt if nothing after all this then I was right.... When I called biafra waste of tym and resources... Ppl were saying you Dnt knw Wat ur saying or Wat to say....biafra has wasted more tym than this ,yet nothing... You claim biafra movement is illegal.. then Why do they still push for it?...this is to say that Ppl Evn wen they knw the truth they Jst choose to waste their tym.... The least d country need now is this HND or Bsc stuff..wen our economy is shittt..security shittt etc... Mst Ppl maynt Lik my post Bt that will not stop me....anybody can insult me provided it does Nt blow ma phone of I gat no prblm wit abuses |
vickylala239: 5:17pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
UYCO: Wat ur simply saying is this...let HND holders stop crying.. Bt go bck to their drawing board and do a good work,Jst as u Hv done...if you are good u will b recommended n Evn paid more than Bsc... So very simple HND holders wake up do a good on and off the field and get rated over Bsc... Stop all the cry...leave the paper certificate alone and do a good work...Bsc has been doing a good wrk that Why Dey Hv been rated high.....now HND do your good work and takeover... Is not by cumin here to create numerous threads |
tosyne2much(m): 5:37pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
vickylala239:I give up on this argument.. I try to argue with people who can intellectually match up with me, not those who are not intellectually challenging Well, I give up on this argument.. Now I'm inclined to agree with you that university is superior while polytechnic is inferior.. I believe this should make you happy now.. You won ! |
emaculate99: 5:43pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
vickylala239:lol. I don't need to argue with you. What will I gain? My post up there was to call your attention to the wrongness of your analogy. Read my post again. I didn't say the movement is illegal but I said, secession is illegal. Also, you didn't argue about Biafra being a nation but your analogy was what I attacked. Moreover, people pushing for something doesn't make such thing legal. People demanding Biafra doesn't mean secession is legal. Try to reason! If I should go by your logic then I can say that jungle justice that is being demanded for by common men on the street when a thief is caught is legal. Common, try to understand. The law has already set out what is legal from what is illegal. No public opinion can change that unless such law is amended by the legislature. Back to the subject, your fuss about HND and BSc has already been answered in the debate. The arguments and counter arguments should be enough. Vickie, I will only advise you to read through the debate. And if you are not OK with that, you can go on further reading. In addition to that, this is an intellectual discourse, we are here to learn and not to claim e-warlords. Read through what had been written and learn just like we all did. #shalom |
emaculate99: 5:48pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
tosyne2much:seconded, thirded, fourthed, fifthed, sixted, even hundreded!!! |
tosyne2much(m): 6:29pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
vickylala239:Lemm get something into your skull; when arguing, you have to be very analytical and logical in reasoning and argue as regards the topic.. It's so pathetic of you to give credence to primary school pupils who prefer university to polytechnic as a reason as to why HND cannot equate Bsc. For God's sake, how does that even relate to why HND cannot equate Bsc? Doesn't that clearly show you are not intellectually grounded enough to feature in a debate like this? It's better you back off from this argument rather than downgrade yourself as a university student |
UYCO: 6:51pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
@Vickylala, you sound more like a secondary school drop out than a university graduate. Your level of reasoning fall below what is expected from a 100 level student. If by chance you manage to graduate by giving your area tita feely to lecturers in exchange for marks, you cant get more than a or third class. I dont think polytechnic graduates are responsible for your predicament. Even with your degree, you are still not qualify to be my PA. If I lie your certificate here let us see.
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UYCO: 7:07pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
@Vickylala, I dont want to speak for other profession outside my engineering profession. I can assure you that we polytechnic engineers are already making moves to form our own body that will be barked by law. We will make our case very clear to the national assembly. University engineers have failed the nation and we cannot allow them to take us along in their backwardness. We dont even need them. In the past they tend to create the impression that they design for HND holders to implement. The introduction of design courses into the HND curriculum has effectively rendered BSC engineers useless. What this means is that the HND holder can design and implement and the BSC holder can only design and be looking at the design without knowing how to implement it. BSC engineers are not trained to physically translate design to physical infrastructure. This means we can produce without them but they cannot produce without us. of what use is that body that lump us together and even tend to make us look inferior? The law of negative feed back is already affecting them. The federal government now know that paper engineers are a liability to the Nigerian economy. Change is the only constant phenomenon. Good day.
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UYCO: 7:25pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
@Vickylala, I want to sincerely advise you to get brighter grammar book 1,2,3 and 4 and study them very well before you can comment in a public forum like this. Your use of English is very poor. You are disgracing university graduates here.
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vickylala239: 6:48am On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: I neva said I am into ur debate...mreova I cn shorten my words to b in ur debate... There is nothing at stake on this stuff u call debate.. I feel am pissing u off..and u wnt mi to go off quickly... Sorry Bro d truth is bitter... Funny enuf am Nt going off.... insulting will Nt stop mi... From your abv post u Jst confess Dat Bsc is higher...if u talk of equating dem it means u acknowledge d fact d Bsc..... You also complain of my example as sec student preference.... I wnt to ring this to ur brain.. for goodess sake am not in ur debate...wen we all knw d winner goes home with nothing.... I knw is so painful as this thread has no effect or attention to those who matters in nigeria.... Bt d only thing I will advice u is this.....weda HND or Bsc.... hardworking is the key.. Go use ur certificate wisely...stop crying over certificate Dat u Hv already gotten or abt to get... I Hv Neva heard of outstanding HND holders both in news or anywhere... Bt I Hv heard of xceptional 1st class university graduate.... record breakers.... The news of xceptional university graduate are evri whr...... I will advice you to wake up and upgrade ur self...rather Dan ur HND or Bsc.... Bsc or HND does not necessarily determine your success.... if bread seller cn b mre recognized Dan record breaking 1st class student of uni lag.... Or a uni drop out as tubaba!!! Or rat poison seller as patoranking.. Or plantain seller timaya..... Bro I will advice u to wake up and work hard...... If ur so desire Bsc as you cry out...Why not get ission in2 uni..... You claim to intellectually incline.... then get ission into uni......u can only claim king in no man's land,Bt get ission into uni n start up Na.... U claim to b intellectually incline yet I Hv not heard of ur name Jst as I Hv heard of uni lag 1st class record breaker.... All of u wnt to claim king on Nairaland...Cuz you knw no one knows you. |
vickylala239: 7:00am On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: No!!! If Bsc is superior is Ppl Lik you who mke Bsc superior.... by seeking such attention Wat do u think of an sec skool student reading this....he or she will easily conclude that it is so.. Since d cry is for HND not Bsc... HND has given Bsc upper hand..Cuz you guys have refused to stand up to deir standard... .you feel inferior rather than challenging them... Change is constant.... if you guys cn wake up and work Bsc will b at ur feet....Bt here you are writing long n short gist abt equating them.... Forgetting Dat you guys need to do ur home work well..... Why not create an impression to equate dem....with your HND holders impressing in their various jobs n field.... rather than waste tym looking for easy road.... My point is this..... you knew before you went to poly that u will get HND..u still went....den y do u cum cry after.... Jst as does who went to maritime..... you knw Wat u will obtain....yet u still cum out crying.... |
vickylala239: 7:11am On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: I Neva said I Hv a uni certificate or HND... apparently you are looking for areas to attack mi with... Bt u get it all wrong.... Where I cum is this::::::::::; you were fully aware of this before u attend ur various institutions..... yet u cum here crying or looking for equal ground.....rather than work hard with ur certificate or get ission to uni...you here deliberating on issues that was long dead on the arrival @ Senate.... Jst as I said...it is a waste of tym n will b a waste of tym n energy if after one month I don't get d effect of this on Senate or any prominent organ of govt..... Bt for u to think u will get mi off d thread easily...I guess u mst b joking... You claim to b logical in ur argument yet..I Hv not heard of u...Jst as I Hv heard of uni lag 1st class recorder breaker.... Who are you? May all of us will Google who u are with ur logical reasoning |
vickylala239: 7:18am On Mar 08, 2016 |
UYCO: Please we are all waiting to hear from fed govt..... Let me wait for a month.....if after a month I Dnt get to hear this ur plan on channels or any organ of govt... I will consider it wasted effort... Or sumtin Dat was Neva land @ all.... This is Wat mst Ppl say...before u knw u hear nothing |
PShollzy(m): 1:38pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
vickylala239: @vicky. it shows you are strong headed and i observe u don't want to learn. It will be better u opt out if you are never part of the debate rather than making unnecessary argument.. |
vickylala239: 2:18pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
PShollzy: Opt out in no man's land?. Cn u chase igbos,or Yorubas from market.?... Strong headed is an understatemnt.... Learning d last tym I checked Nairaland Neva gv Bsc,HND,wasc, or 1st skool leaving.. Evn in d Bible among the 12 disciples There was judas.... So u can over ma post or mke viki all over d thread |
tosyne2much(m): 3:26pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
vickylala239:And you think saying this will cause me low self esteem ryt? Well, let me tell you something. The truth of the matter is that not every brilliant student can bag 5.0, the same way every hard working person is not destined to live in luxury. And to think intellect is only measured by academic success clearly shows you don't have what it takes to get us convinced When you are arguing with people, it's quite unnecessary to make preference to another person's success to attack the person you are arguing with. This is an argument that has nothing to do with whether I was able to bag first class or not. In case you have forgotten the thrush of discussion, we are talking about how their will be technological advancement if these two certifications are equated Of course, you might not hear about me in the news just as you opined, but that does not make me less a person or unintelligent. Life is not a competition, I may not be a first class graduate but there are specific areas where I can be a genius. Read through the previous pages and see how intelligent people clearly aired their opinions intelligently.. You are not just worthy featuring in this argument but you won't just agree cos the more you try to buttress your point, the more you say gibberish |
tosyne2much(m): 3:38pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
PShollzy:Bro, God bless you for this comment I don tire to dey argue with this girl cos she knows nothing.. If it were to be someone who's got what it takes to challenge me, it would have been better Just imaging arguing with someone you've learnt nothing from what she has been saying 1 Like |
vickylala239: 7:40pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: U claim to b debating Bt d truth is.... you are not debating....rather you find fun in Jst rplying me.... Check out this thread you will knw is all abt me not debate... Ppl quote me up and dwn..if actually you guys wer debating...you culd scored zero point.... U are afraid of ma reference to others success...you cn better Dan dem...show us Dat u are better.. Real debaters Dnt waste tym replying..rather they make their points knwn... I pity you Cuz d thread is Evn or almost closed...if Nt for mi... No stay here and mke ur HND turn Bsc... you go old... Dnt go and mke good use of your HND.... |
vickylala239: 7:49pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: Bros There is nothing like challenge here in Nairaland.....this is Jst a waste of tym... This is neva competition as nothing is at stake... You Jst find fun in wasting tym..if u need challenge enter ring and fight john cena... I cnt waste my tym in such debate wen nothing is at stake...since wen did u see a debate Dat Dnt Hv tym frame..Dnt Hv points...nothing.. Keep wasting your tym...am right here watching you guys.... You claim to be debating Bt ur here responding to my post up and dwn.. If u actually knew am Nt among debate tym waster,Why den do u still quote mi....or am I now d topic of debate.... Kip wasting you tym...Cuz am nw d topic of debate.... You guys Hv been debating me for the past pages nw...it show how jobless n tym wasters you guys r.... Am right here with you guys...
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tosyne2much(m): 7:50pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
vickylala239:As I have said earlier, arguing with you is devaluation of oneself.. What's the point arguing with someone who can't even write coherently in English? What's even the point arguing with someone who doesn't even know when to start a word with capital or small letter? Of course I have HND in view but I can bet a million dollars that you obviously can't even stand me. Madam Bsc holder, go and work on yourself and improve on your vocabulary so that you can defend your certificate anywhere you go, so that an ordinary school cert holder will not be rated above you [/i] |
henrylowe(m): 7:53pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much:Tosyne I swear you wicked ooooo... See as you murdered the daughter of a man ![]()
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vickylala239: 8:07pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: You Jst a little funny idioottttt.... u mean I shuld strt punctuating Jst Cuz I wnt to post on common social media.....or I shuld strt writin in full Jst Cuz am on Nairaland.... Lol... I see u are paid by writin in full and taking tym to punctuate... Jst as I said ur Jst a tym waster.. If u think seun will pay u for taking tym to punctuate and writin in full ur Jst wasting ur tym.... Ur debaterz Hv deserted ur thread for you....Lol!!!! I knew ur wer foooolish. . Cuz if u were actually debating...u culd Hv concentrated on ur wrk..Bt here you are...with some1 who is calling it debating thread shitttt.... U claim am Nt intellectual enuf.. oya push ur write up to Senate and let dem this....Wat u knw is to cum here and drag commEnt wit does u will Neva see.... Lik I said am ready for u...since am now your topic of debate..... For d past pages s now d debate is abt mi...let's go...mummmmu 1 Like 1 Share |
vickylala239: 8:10pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
tosyne2much: I put it to you Dat this thread is going to b abt me till d end... Debate is now abt viki..... mummu |
WeedyGonzalez(m): 8:30pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
vickylala239:you still arguing with this guy? Hehehe just free the mumu |
henrylowe(m): 8:35pm On Mar 08, 2016 |
vickylala239:Shut up your mouth eeediot.. I have been reading the comment of a dumb skull like you saying whatnot just to justify herself. It's better for you stay out of this educating debate and let those who want to learn learn, rather than displaying illiteracy and stupi.dity on a public forum like this.. It's so pathetic that with your so called Bsc, you can't even punctuate, spell and capitalize properly yet you claim you are superior to an HND holder Tosyne, pls keep it up with the BRUTALITY while I enjoy the fun |
vickylala239: 6:20am On Mar 09, 2016 |
henrylowe: Definitely u will enjoy d fun....Cuz am moving d thread to b centered on mi.... U will surely enjoy d fun...while I shut d shitttty debate dwn.... |
vickylala239: 7:28am On Mar 09, 2016 |
Lwkmd!!!!!! ask d guy who won Wat did they gv him? Lol!!!!!"
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ehisdan(m): 8:00am On Mar 09, 2016 |
I have been laughing since yesterday, seeing campaign after election. @tosyne2much am some how sad seeing u keeping it up with vickylala239. Pls let's the matter die, give silence it's best position in this case. @vickylala239 I never knew u can argue this far I would have consulted you for tutorial before coming for the debate ![]() ![]() But with what I have been reading from ur post, if that's what an example of a B.sc holder is, I rather remain a HND holder than fooling myself with B.sc |
vickylala239: 9:05am On Mar 09, 2016 |
ehisdan: Is Good Dat u had fun.... Atleast u Dnt Hv bitterness Lik others..... As 4 debate I guess u r confused.... Cuz I neva stated or mention my name among d tym wasters debaters.... Obviously I cnt b debating whil shortenin my writin n disobeying punctuation rules... I still tink I shuld b d one 2 educate you...Cuz u wer so blind 2 see Dat I was Jst attacking d tym wasters debaters.... Some of u are so foolllishhhh..... u knw dis person is Nt in2 ur debate n u xpect d person to punctuate or write in full.... I Bliv u guys wer shrt of debaters....as such any bdy Dat comment is a debater....Lol.... Y kill urself over sometin Dat will only live n die on this thread.... Am still Lafin u guys...... Funny enuf we live in a different wrld..wer u cn speak good English or Wat Eva yet d liks of patience Jonathan is ur 1st lady...and does who cn speak r sweeping d street for ha.. U are good..yet ur a fan to tubaba..... U r good yet ur a fan to plantain seller.....timaya.... Abi u wnt to to abt bread seller..... Stay There and Kip punctuating n write in full on Nairaland..... Why Nt go and write a book since u are good lets see hw u will b better dan 2baba..... Why are Bsc not crying with u guys here.... Lol dead case......Dnt go n wrk hard wit ur HND n mke it in life....Kip telling mi Hw u cn punctuate..... D difference btw u n mi is Dat....u Hv to be vry careful of ur writ up n punctuation,,,,also u Hv to read ur writ up over n ova again bfr posting..so as Nt to mke mistakes.....whil I Dnt k...Cuz I stand to achieve nothing..... Since I cnt punctuate Hw cum u understood my comments..and Evn laf...Atleast u shuld Hv said u didn't get me at all.... It shows am communicating..... Am still here for u guys...... Dead thread |
ehisdan(m): 1:19pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
Fynestboi, Pls close this thread the game is over. As for u vickylala ur pic has said a lot about u
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sammyscholar(m): 2:15pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
tosyne2much:you aught to have cut the argument with her long ago. Her points are baseless, going by present day realities and her they are not even intelligently worded. You can see the way she writes- bad constructs. I would have chastised her with words were she to be one of my tutored students. 1 Like 1 Share |
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