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@ pseudonomer
According to you, the old have failed... Why not give the youths a trial to know what they're actually capable of??

Miracy:

That's an instance of showing the capacity of a youth if given a chance to rule.
According sub-Saharan Africa, the term "youth" is
associated with young men from 15 to 30 or even 35
years of age. Youth in Nigeria includes all of
the Federal Republic of Nigeria aged 18–35.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth

The task in ruling one state or a ministry cannot be compared to the task of a ruling the whole 36 states. It requires wisdom, mental strength, a lot experience especially in a developing country like Nigeria.

Samtolly4JESUS:
@ pseudonomer
According to you, the old have failed... Why not give the youths a trial to know what they're actually capable of??

There's no where I mentioned the old have failed directly. However, a youth ruling Nigeria will be a disaster....

@Miracy
you said and I quote "The denial has resulted to gathering of youths in bars and restaurants to drink and smoke".
now, why should the leadership of a nation be put in the hands of a youth that can't persist to achieve his goal at a sight of challenge.

pseudonomer:


The Nigerian youth that cannot rule a small group(such as the Youth group in a community) effectively without any issues of looting, and you want the same to rule Nigeria. My point is we youth are not really better than the old men.

Can you give an instance of such Are you telling me the old cargos are saints?? If truly they are best in ruling the country, why have they not deliver us from our predicament??

Samtolly4JESUS:


It's pertinent to state the fact that we've had exemplary youth leaders who have served as governors in Nigeria. For instance, the governor of Anambra state, Peter obi who became governor at the age of 41, he restored civility and order and rescued the state from lawlessness and dysfunctionalism . He uncommonly became a leader whose goes above party differences, religious diversities and localities. The former governor of Lagos State, Babatunde Raji Fashola became governor at the age of 43,his istration marked a historic turning point in Lagos as the largest African city. Donald Duke, the former governor of cross river became governor at the age of 37, he has been praised for his contributions to the fields of agriculture , urban development , government, environment , information and communication , investment drive, and tourism. Through his work Calabar is seen as the "cleanest city in Nigeria" .

Furthermore, Nikola Gruevski became the Prime Minister of Macedonia at 36 in 2006. Today, Macedonia has risen from a periphery nation to a semi-core country in international politics. If men in their 40s could govern their states very much, then people in their 30s can do better.
There's no point keeping the age barrier used in contesting, for an elective post, everybody above the age of 18 should be encouraged to aspire for any post- president, senator or house of rep. Since youths form a majority of the citizenry, it's only wise and right that a youth should represent the interest of the majority.

By your definition of youth being age 18-35. Men in their 40s are definitely not youths. And If 40 and above can rule well, does it mean that men that are less 35 years will rule well? There's no correlation there.

Let the rebuttal continue…………

Miracy:

Can you give an instance of such Are you telling me the old cargos are saints?? If truly they are best in ruling the country, why have they not deliver us from our predicament??

Check my essay, there's an instance there. When a corrupt youth acquires power, you know that's hell.

pseudonomer:

There's no where I mentioned the old have failed directly. However, a youth ruling Nigeria will be a disaster....

Without giving them a trial?? We should keep hoping for a change that will never come?? Have you forgotten that these same leaders of today have been our leaders of yesterday...

pseudonomer:


The task in ruling one state or a ministry cannot be compared to the task of a ruling the whole 36 states. It requires wisdom, mental strength, a lot experience especially in a developing country like Nigeria.

Murtala Mohammed was head of state at 37 and his 6 months at the helm of affairs was very promising... Gowon was 32 when he became head of state at the time Nigeria was going through her biggest crisis - the Civil War. .. . They could perform well when the were still strong and agile...

Nunushokoto:
@Miracy
you said and I quote "The denial has resulted to gathering of youths in bars and restaurants to drink and smoke".
now, why should the leadership of a nation be put in the hands of a youth that can't persist to achieve his goal at a sight of challenge.

pseudonomer:


Check my essay, there's an instance there. When a corrupt youth acquires power, you know that's hell.

Hell is what we've been living in.... How will the interest of the young who are the majority in the country be represented well when they're been denied of the opportunity??

Samtolly4JESUS:

Without giving them a trial?? We should keep hoping for a change that will never come?? Have you forgotten that these same leaders of today have been our leaders of yesterday...

A trial can only be given to someone that is ready. Will you give someone that cannot solve simple arithmetic a chance to solve an Ordinary Differential Equation problem, unless you are gambler and Nigeria is not a country to gamble with.

Nunushokoto:
@Miracy
you said and I quote "The denial has resulted to gathering of youths in bars and restaurants to drink and smoke".
now, why should the leadership of a nation be put in the hands of a youth that can't persist to achieve his goal at a sight of challenge.

There's a popular saying... "an idle mind is the devil's workshop"... what do you expect from the youths out there who have been hoping for things to get better but only get worse?? ?. .. Their dreams have been shattered and all hope lost...

Miracy:

Can you give an instance of such Are you telling me the old cargos are saints?? If truly they are best in ruling the country, why have they not deliver us from our predicament??

Rome was not built in a day and constant practice makes perfect. Now the 'old cargos' have gained a fore knowledge of the country and we can say that they know how best to run the affairs of the country because they have gained experience through constant practice.

Nice point from Miracy, if you ask me………
The rebuttal is still on! Do your best……

pseudonomer:


A trial can only be given to someone that is ready. Will you give someone that cannot solve simple arithmetic a chance to solve and Ordinary Differential Equation problem, unless you are gambler and Nigeria is not a country to gamble with.

*I laugh in Spanish *
Gambling is what those old cargos have been doing with Nigeria, they keep playing us and compromising our development for their own selfish interest.
Besides,there's no harm in trying, the youths and children also are the majority in the society, they understand their own needs and aspirations, and they understand the challenges of the modern day youths which are beyond the scope of the elderly people to be able to proffer any meaningful and impacting solution.

Miracy:

There's a popular saying... "an idle mind is the devil's workshop"... what do you expect from the youths out there who have been hoping for things to get better but only get worse?? ?. .. Their dreams have been shattered and all hope lost...

That is not the answer to my question. How do you entrust the live of a nation to the hand of a youth that can't face challenges but decides to be idle because idleness is a choice. No matter the state of the country,we can choose to be idle and we can choose not to be.

Nunushokoto:
Rome was not built in a day and constant practice makes perfect. Now the 'old cargos' have gained a fore knowledge of the country and we can say that they know how best to run the affairs of the country because they have gained experience through constant practice.

So they should keep gambling with us till they are perfect??
How long are we gonna sing the nursery rhyme(parent listen to your children, we're the leaders of tomorrow.. . ) we've been singing for years now for it to become reality? ??

Samtolly4JESUS:

*I laugh in Spanish *
Gambling is what those old cargos have been doing with Nigeria, they keep playing us and compromising our development for their own selfish interest.
Besides,there's no harm in trying, the youths and children also are the majority in the society, they understand their own needs and aspirations, and they understand the challenges of the modern day youths which are beyond the scope of the elderly people to be able to proffer any meaningful and impacting solution.

The youths that allow themselves to be used as tools of destruction, hate, division and looting by the professional treasury looters, the ones that kill a petty thief for stealing N20 but praise the “political class” for stealing their future and robbing it in their faces, the ones that are been blinded by religion and ethnicity, the ones whose rights have been denied for a very long time (lack of quality education and impoverished economy) thereby making them to accept anomalies as norms can actually make a great president? You want to give this youth your chance?

Miracy:

So they should keep gambling with us till they are perfect??
How long are we gonna sing the nursery rhyme(parent listen to your children, we're the leaders of tomorrow.. . ) we've been singing for years now for it to become reality? ??

Why can't the youths be patient and wait for their time and leave those who can do it better to continue so as ti learn from the mistakes the elders are making so as not to fall into the same pit abs the elders.

Nunushokoto:
That is not the answer to my question. How do you entrust the live of a nation to the hand of a youth that can't face challenges but decides to be idle because idleness is a choice. No matter the state of the country,we can choose to be idle and we can choose not to be.

There are actually degrees of idleness cos one can be unemployed and also underemployed. You can't expect a youth who dreams big but ends up being a bus conductor cos of the situation of the country to make the best out of himself.
What do you say to leaders who were able to make great achievement at their youthful age as a leader... See the likes of Murtala Mohammed who was head of state at 37 and his 6 months at the helm of affairs was very promising; also,Gowon who was 32 when he became head of state at the time Nigeria was going through her biggest crisis - the Civil War... they made a useful impact.

Miracy:

There are actually degrees of idleness cos one can be unemployed and also underemployed. You can't expect a youth who dreams big but ends up being a bus conductor cos of the situation of the country to make the best out of himself.
What do you say to leaders who were able to make great achievement at their youthful age as a leader... See the likes of Murtala Mohammed who was head of state at 37 and his 6 months at the helm of affairs was very promising; also,Gowon who was 32 when he became head of state at the time Nigeria was going through her biggest crisis - the Civil War... they made a useful impact.

Any youth that dreamt big and became a bus conductor gave up on his dream. There is no man that chases his dream whole heartedly and doesn't achieve his goal despite all odds.

Debaters please be notified that one of the judges is around.

Judge UjSizzle can ask a question anytime if she pleases……… debaters should please be on the look…

Miracy:

There's a popular saying... "an idle mind is the devil's workshop"... what do you expect from the youths out there who have been hoping for things to get better but only get worse?? ?. .. Their dreams have been shattered and all hope lost...

No one dream can be shattered. The same youth that refused to go into Agriculture, or go into entrepreneurship to start from the scratch. The same Nigerian youth that has never invented anything before. The same waiting for a white-collar job. The same Nigerian youth has never done anything to improve their society waiting for the government to do everything for them. The Nigerian youth lacks the mental strength, the experience to rule Nigeria.

pseudonomer:


The youths that allow themselves to be used as tools of destruction, hate, division and looting by the professional treasury looters, the ones that kill a petty thief for stealing N20 but praise the “political class” for stealing their future and robbing it in their faces, the ones that are been blinded by religion and ethnicity, the ones whose rights have been denied for a very long time (lack of quality education and impoverished economy) thereby making them to accept anomalies as norms can actually make a great president? You want to give this youth your chance?

Who are those using them for these bad deeds Isn't it the old ones?? Shouldn't they be laying good examples they keep taking advantage of the gullible youths who fall into their traps...
Who are those denying the youths of education and good standard of living?? These same old people so as to prevent the youths from taking over from them... Isn't that pathetic

We need change!!
We youths can do it!!
Let's say no to gerontocracy!!!

Nunushokoto:
Why can't the youths be patient and wait for their time and leave those who can do it better to continue so as ti learn from the mistakes the elders are making so as not to fall into the same pit abs the elders.

leave them to keep misleading us?? when will our time come?? Till Jesus comes?? .. . We keep getting the same response, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.. . What a folly!!
We've been recycling these old cargoes. And we have nothing to show for it

Nunushokoto:
Any youth that dreamt big and became a bus conductor gave up on his dream. There is no man that chases his dream whole heartedly and doesn't achieve his goal despite all odds.

That's a fallacy.. . Like you don't know the kind of Nigeria we're in, let's stop deceiving ourselves and lets face reality... How will the poor who is denied qualitative education fulfill his dream of becoming a medical doctor

Miracy:
leave them to keep misleading us?? when will our time come?? Till Jesus comes?? .. . We keep getting the same response, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.. . What a folly!!
We've been recycling these old cargoes. And we have nothing to show for it

As long as we do not have enough experience we cannot sit on that seat because its still the same us that will complain and criticize if a youth goes there and eventually flops.

Miracy:
Murtala Mohammed was head of state at 37 and his 6 months at the helm of affairs was very promising... Gowon was 32 when he became head of state at the time Nigeria was going through her biggest crisis - the Civil War. .. . They could perform well when the were still strong and agile...

Can you cite examples of what these men achieved during their reign as heads of government as youths?

Miracy:

There's a popular saying... "an idle mind is the devil's workshop"... what do you expect from the youths out there who have been hoping for things to get better but only get worse?? ?. .. Their dreams have been shattered and all hope lost...

Nigeria is a virgin economy with a population of over 140 million people-- who are mostly consumers. How do you suppose that a youth who can't take advantage of prevalent economic environment to think his way out of the box will successfully manage a nation like Nigeria, say in a situation like the past president faced with the insurgents and refusal of the US to send arms; or the current oil crisis?

In your opening speech you highlighted with facts how the older generation has run the country to the ground, and cited instances of countries like the US whose young leaders have proven to be capable hands.
What peculiar similarities does the Nigerian youth share with these foreigners you've mentioned, that convinces you-- and us by default-- we are capable of producing the same results?