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Janosky:


Go and study Revelation chapter 1 with a copy of Greek interlinear Bible, so you can stop deceiving yourself.

Emusan, bikonu

Answer my question since you have studied Revelation chapter 1.

Is Jesus The Beginning and The Ending, The First and The Last, Alpha and Omega and The Almighty?

Very simple.

Janosky:



You no know the meaning of historical context,so Stop deceiving yourself.
@John 3:16 & Matthew 16:16-17, is your Jesus the name of God?

You no kuku dey read your Bible.
Let alone to study it.
Please STOP deceiving yourself.

Kindly, direct that question towards yourself. If you indeed knew the meaning, you won't postulate such balderdash 🤨. Jews do not use the Lord's name as an exclamation! At least, you have meta ai—Your "run" to academic savior! Kindly consult him to tell you whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation.

Stop with this cheap narrative🤨!

Janosky:


Quin no dey read him Bible.
Deuteronomy 18:15 & Acts 3:22-23 proven that Quin DECEIVING himself.

Screenshot evidence is irrefutable.
Acts 3:22-23," Jesus Christ is the eschatological prophet like Moses."
NET Bible your fellow Trinitarians exposed you.

People like you are too funny. JESUS HIMSELF said who he was!!! The Jews were eagerly expecting three people at that time: 1) the Messiah 2) the prophet of Deut.18:18 3) Elijah. They were always asking which of these people were. Jesus couldn't have escaped confirming He was the prophet if that's who He was. HE DIDN'T!! Besides, Jesus was not like Moses at all. Two people couldn't be more different. Moses would have cursed you if you said he was the resurrection and the life and once you see him you've seen God, talkless of he himself saying it. Moses started life by killing a man in cold blood, quite the opposite of Jesus

JohnTB said who he was: The voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’

Likewise Jesus also said who He was: The Christ, the Son of the living God (NOT any prophet or angel)

Janosky:


The screenshot evidence proven your delusion.
Will both Pastors climb the church pulpit after their church took swift action?

Person wey say him go school but him no allow him brain to function.

You are late to the conversation. We have all already agreed that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AS AN ORGANIZATION IS A CULT.

QuinQ:


People like you are too funny. JESUS HIMSELF said who he was!!! The Jews were eagerly expecting three people at that time: 1) the Messiah 2) the prophet of Deut.18:18 3) Elijah. They were always asking which of these people were. Jesus couldn't have escaped confirming He was the prophet if that's who He was. HE DIDN'T!! Besides, Jesus was not like Moses at all. Two people couldn't be more different. Moses would have cursed you if you said he was the resurrection and the life and once you see him you've seen God, talkless of he himself saying it. Moses started life by killing a man in cold blood, quite the opposite of Jesus

JohnTB said who he was: The voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’

Likewise Jesus also said who He was: The Christ, the Son of the living God (NOT any prophet or angel)

This is the height of ignorance coming from you, a so-called believer with ZERO knowledge about Christ Jesus.

Read all the scriptures on this link.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/the-life-and-ministry-of-jesus-christ/17-was-jesus-a-prophet.cfm

Please STOP DECEIVING yourself.

QuinQ:


You are late to the conversation. We have all already agreed that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AS AN ORGANIZATION IS A CULT. .

Belief nah by force?

QuinQ is just DECEIVING himself.
You point 1 finger at JW's while your 4 fingers pointing back at you.
"Pentecostalism is a CULT."
Unbelievers applied the label to every form of religion.

Gabrielshow24:
Kindly, direct that question towards yourself. If you indeed knew the meaning, you won't postulate such balderdash 🤨. Jews do not use the Lord's name as an exclamation! At least, you have meta ai—Your "run" to academic savior! Kindly consult him to tell you whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation.

Stop with this cheap narrative🤨!

@ John 20:28 "Lord " is not a name.
Just continue deceiving yourself.

QuinQ post: Jesus is NOT a prophet.
The holy scriptures: Luke 7:15-16. John 4:20. John 9:17.
Acts 3:22-23, Jesus Christ is a prophet.

Unbeliever pretending he knows Christ.

Emusan:


Answer my question since you have studied Revelation chapter 1.

Is Jesus The Beginning and The Ending, The First and The Last, Alpha and Omega and The Almighty?

Very simple.

John 20:21 & Revelation 1:1, God Almighty dey go deliver message for another spirit ?
Never ever!!!
"As my Father (Senior)" sent me,so I am sending you. "

Hebrew 6:13 & John 20:17,21, Almighty God has senior as Jesus Christ has Senior?
No, NEVER!!!

Another unbelievaber pretending to know Christ.

Janosky:

@ John 20:28 "Lord " is not a name.
Just continue deceiving yourself.

QuinQ post: Jesus is NOT a prophet.
The holy scriptures: Luke 7:15-16. John 4:20. John 9:17.
Acts 3:22-23, Jesus Christ is a prophet.

Unbeliever pretending he knows Christ.

Who is the Lord of the Jews? If Thomas being a jew calls out Lord and God as an exclamation—He will be breaking Moses' law.

Also, where did I mention that Lord is a name? Isn't it obvious that Lord is a title and reference to the Lord of the Jews? 🤧You and this your pathetic strawman, you have become quite adept at drawing straws. TBH, You have a wonderful future in such an industry but you have us to contend with! As long as the Truth exists, peddlers of lies such as yourself have no where to run to!

Gabrielshow24:
Who is the Lord of the Jews? If Thomas being a jew calls out Lord and God as an exclamation—He will be breaking Moses' law.

Also, where did I mention that Lord is a name? Isn't it obvious that Lord is a title and reference to the Lord of the Jews? 🤧You and this your pathetic strawman, you have become quite adept at drawing straws. TBH, You have a wonderful future in such an industry but you have us to contend with! As long as the Truth exists, peddlers of lies such as yourself have no where to run to!

Gabrielshow24 post on 4th June,2025 @2:32 PM.

"Jews do not use the Lord's name as an exclamation! At least, you have meta ai—Your "run" to academic savior! Kindly consult him to tell you whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation".

Guy, continue DECEIVING yourself LYING on Nairaland.
John 20:28 , Lord! , God! is an exclamation used to express strong emotions of surprise, amazement or disbelief.
Verse 29, Jesus response to Thomas confirmed that it not a name & does NOT refer to the Almighty Being.


"Adonai! , God! are exclamation (with exclamation mark !) that do NOT refer to the Supreme Being.
Therefore, John 20:28 did NOT refer to the Supreme Being.
Screenshot evidence.

Janosky:

Gabrielshow24 post on 4th June,2025 @2:32 PM.

"Jews do not use the Lord's name as an exclamation! At least, you have meta ai—Your "run" to academic savior! Kindly consult him to tell you whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation".

Guy, continue DECEIVING yourself LYING on Nairaland.
John 20:28 , Lord! , God! is an exclamation used to express strong emotions of surprise, amazement or disbelief.
Verse 29, Jesus response to Thomas confirmed that it not a name & does NOT refer to the Almighty Being.


"Adonai! , God! are exclamation (with exclamation mark !) that do NOT refer to the Supreme Being.
Therefore, John 20:28 did NOT refer to the Supreme Being.
Screenshot evidence.

Don't be foolish. You should have at least queried "whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation" 🤨🤨!

The heathen people exclaim God's name shabbily even during coitus. Hence the use of God's name as an exclamation exists but not within the Jewish context!

Janosky:

This is the height of ignorance coming from you, a so-called believer with ZERO knowledge about Christ Jesus.

Read all the scriptures on this link.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/the-life-and-ministry-of-jesus-christ/17-was-jesus-a-prophet.cfm

Please STOP DECEIVING yourself.

Janosky:

@ John 20:28 "Lord " is not a name.
Just continue deceiving yourself.

Quin post: Jesus is NOT a prophet.
The holy scriptures: Luke 7:15-16. John 4:20. John 9:17.
Acts 3:22-23, Jesus Christ is a prophet.

Unbeliever pretending he knows Christ.

My friend it all depends on DEFINITION! Obviously any human from heaven can be considered a prophet. But our discussion is as to whether Jesus is God, therefore our definition of prophet is "non-God messenger of God" Even the article you cited confirms what I said - Jesus said many, many things, yet never said he was a prophet or the prophet of Deut.18:18

Janosky:


Belief nah by force?

Quin is just DECEIVING himself.
You point 1 finger at JW's while your 4 fingers pointing back at you.
"Pentecostalism is a CULT."
Unbelievers applied the label to every form of religion.

Genius nobody ever said JW is the only cult. We simply finally agreed that JW is indeed a cult

QuinQ:


My friend it all depends on DEFINITION! Obviously any human from heaven can be considered a prophet. But our discussion is as to whether Jesus is God, therefore our definition of prophet is "non-God messenger of God"


Even the article you cited confirms what I said - Jesus said many, many things, yet never said he was a prophet or the prophet of Deut.18:18

Guy you don't love your Bible neither do you have love for Bible truth.
Unbeliever pretending to know Christ , you are deceiving yourself.


Here's a more detailed look at the verses that describe Jesus as a prophet:
Matthew 21:11:
"And the crowds said, 'This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.'" This verse directly identifies Jesus as a prophet in the eyes of the people.
Deuteronomy 18:15, 18:
This Old Testament age speaks of a prophet to come "like Moses". Some scholars interpret this prophecy as pointing to Jesus as the ultimate fulfillment of that promise.
Acts 3:22:
This verse references Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 and declares that "God will raise up for you a prophet like me," connecting the prophecy to Jesus.
Luke 7:37-39:
In this age, Jesus is described as a prophet, comparing him to John the Baptist.
Luke 24:19:
This verse has a crowd in a discussion, talking about Jesus as a prophet.

Mark 6:1-6:
This describes Jesus' return to his hometown of Nazareth, where he was not accepted, but still recognized as a prophet.
Matthew 13:54:
Jesus is described as a prophet in his own hometown, but is not accepted, or given respect.

QuinQ:


Genius nobody ever said JW is the only cult. We simply finally agreed that JW is indeed a cult

I DISAGREE & REJECT your faulty opinion.

Gabrielshow24:
Don't be foolish. You should have at least queried "whether or not Jews use God's name as an exclamation" 🤨🤨!

The heathen people exclaim God's name shabbily even during coitus. Hence the use of God's name as an exclamation exists but not within the Jewish context!

This guy just dey deceive himself.

Thomas a Jew exclaimed:
"My Lord and my God !

Unbelievers can NOT CHANGE Thomas Jewish identity.


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Janosky:

This guy just dey deceive himself.
Thomas a Jew exclaimed:
"My Lord and my God !
Unbelievers can NOT CHANGE Thomas Jewish identity. .

I've abandoned them with all their blind arguments to concentrate on sincere and honest hearted individuals seeking knowledge.

How can someone say Thomas who exclaimed at amazement is calling Jesus his God?

Just imagine:

"My Lord and my God"

Something we all do whenever we feel amazed.

So if a Benin person shouts "osanobua!" that means he has seen his God shey?

Make they go worship their Jesus after all sincere and honest hearted people can see how shameful they are with their Jesus (god) as they can't proudly mention the name of any church where they worship!

Janosky:

Guy you don't love your Bible neither do you have love for Bible truth.
Unbeliever pretending to know Christ , you are deceiving yourself.
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Here's a more detailed look at the verses that describe Jesus as a prophet:
Matthew 21:11:
"And the crowds said, 'This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.'" This verse directly identifies Jesus as a prophet in the eyes of the people.
Deuteronomy 18:15, 18:
This Old Testament age speaks of a prophet to come "like Moses". Some scholars interpret this prophecy as pointing to Jesus as the ultimate fulfillment of that promise.
Acts 3:22:
This verse references Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 and declares that "God will raise up for you a prophet like me," connecting the prophecy to Jesus.
Luke 7:37-39:
In this age, Jesus is described as a prophet, comparing him to John the Baptist.
Luke 24:19:
This verse has a crowd in a discussion, talking about Jesus as a prophet.

Mark 6:1-6:
This describes Jesus' return to his hometown of Nazareth, where he was not accepted, but still recognized as a prophet.
Matthew 13:54:
Jesus is described as a prophet in his own hometown, but is not accepted, or given respect.

All this wouldn't be so bad if Jesus didn't specifically say who he was. But HE DID!!! Jesus knows the Bible better than you. He knew Deut 18:18 was there! He was in the habit of telling Jews prophecies being fulfilled!
You've already been told it all depends on DEFINITION! Anybody from heaven can be considered a prophet!!
From Moses to all the prophets do you see any of them after people's souls? Or asking them to open their hearts and let them in? Or say they themselves were righteousness and life, and anybody in them would never die, Etc.

Do you see any other person talk NEARLY like that??!

QuinQ:


All this wouldn't be so bad if Jesus didn't specifically say who he was.But HE DID!!! Jesus knows the Bible better than you. He knew Deut 18:18 was there!
He was in the habit of telling Jews prophecies being fulfilled!
You've already been told it all depends on DEFINITION! Anybody from heaven can be considered a prophet!!
From Moses to all the prophets do you see any of them after people's souls? Or asking them to open their hearts and let them in? Or say they themselves were righteousness and life, and anybody in them would never die, Etc.

Do you see any other person talk NEARLY like that??!

Unbeliever pretending to know Christ.
You don't even believe your own Bible.

Abeg glue tight to your delusion.

MaxInDHouse:


I've abandoned them with all their blind arguments to concentrate on sincere and honest hearted individuals seeking knowledge.

How can someone say Thomas who exclaimed at amazement is calling Jesus his God?

Just imagine:

"My Lord and my God"

Something we all do whenever we feel amazed.

So if a Benin person shouts "osanobua!" that means he has seen his God shey?

Make they go worship their Jesus after all sincere and honest hearted people can see how proud they are with their Jesus god as they can't proudly mention the name of any church where they worship!

After all, Thomas is one of Jesus brothers at John 20:17 worshipping the God Almighty that Jesus is worshipping.
Their God is NOT Jesus.

John 20:17,30-31 no let them REMOVE from their Bibles.

Janosky:

Unbeliever pretending to know Christ.
You don't even believe your own Bible.
Abeg glue tight to your delusion.

The funny thing is they are ready to argue for the whole day with a JW but to go out there and make disciples that's where their oil finishes! Matthew 25:8

Janosky:

After all, Thomas is one of Jesus brothers at John 20:17 worshipping the God Almighty that Jesus is worshipping.
Their God is NOT Jesus.
John 20:17,30-31 no let them REMOVE from their Bibles.

They stick to what their pastors told them yet they don't believe in their pastors. I still wonder why they are so ashamed to mention the name of their churches if they truly believe what they were taught.
The funny thing is each will say holy spirit taught him yet they can't agree to work together as a team!

MaxInDHouse:

The funny thing is they are ready to argue for the whole day with a JW but to go out there and make disciples that's where their oil finishes! Matthew 25:8

How can they give to others what they don't have?

John 17:3, Jesus Christ recognized what they lack.

Janosky:

How can they give to others what they don't have?

John 17:3, Jesus Christ recognized what they lack.

Hmmmmmmm highlighted in blue says it all!

Janosky:


Unbeliever pretending to know Christ.
You don't even believe your own Bible.

Abeg glue tight to your delusion.

He's lost as usual and as usual resorts to abuse and fake levity!😅
You lot will always lose because I deal in evidence and reason while you deal in cherrypicked, intentionally misinterpreted Bible verses!

Janosky:



This guy just dey deceive himself.

Thomas a Jew exclaimed:
"My Lord and my God !

Unbelievers can NOT CHANGE Thomas Jewish identity.


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You keep going around in circles😅—Aimlessly and pointlessly at that! You claimed Thomas a jew made an exclamation 🤨, which contradicts the Orthodox Jewish perspective! Now you are drawing straws that "I cannot change Thomas Jewish identity" 🤨—Eleyi lo far🤨, how did you infer this? Who contended with you that Thomas wasn't a Jew? 😅😅

You keep showing the world your folly both in comprehension and in historical contexts! You better go educate yourself on how the Jews considered the Lord's name sacred; even the substitute names of God, as used by Jewish people, are not called in vain!

Yet some wannabe, Einstein, perhaps a more befitting example🤨, Patrick Star believes that Thomas the Jew exclaimed the Lord's name🤨! For what exactly? 😅 —Perhaps to fit the narrative of Jehovah's witnesses 🤨.