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Eboofa:



Lagos has a bit of squalor.... it's overpopulated, and public services are few and far between!

lagos is overpopulated

mandarin:
The size of all those major cities added together may be like tge size of urban Ibadan or may be just a little more and still below the metropoltam Lagos. I don't think having all the land for real estate is the best and won't encourage that for the Southwest except for two to three cities that may be necessary to relieve Lagos state.

More importantly for cities are their economic structure and sustainability. Having real estates without economic values does not amount to actual developments required of a growing economy.

I think Southeast should watch that type of cornubation that will reserve few places for agriculture and other activities.

However the Igbo has benefitted from Nigeria more, access to huge market, sales approach that rakes in millions with little taxes due to structure system of running largely informal outlets, allocations from federal government which finance infrastructures, contractors, big men access to contracts and investments outside of Southeast( oil and gas, constructions etc) saying all development are private is a joke and flat lie from hell. I think post war reconstructions and federal money play huge roles as part of such developments. Believe you me, other places in Nigeria are also developed; kaduna, Kano, Sokoto, Jos etc are developed by Nigerian standard. Stop thinking you are the king of the jungle if you haven't hunted an antelope, be humble.

You obviously have never lived in the southeast, The southeast has Oil and gas........! However, the federal government has not done much in of uplifting the southeast......this is the truth!

Na our God dey do am for us.

Eboofa:




You obviously have never lived in the southeast, The southeast has Oil and gas........! However, the federal government has not done much in of uplifting the southeast......this is the truth!

I have been to the southeast. I can't say the oil economy can really help to provide forex like the Niger Delta. The southest must leave spaces for agriculture and other activities. With the land size, its important that the ecosystem is balanced. As of today, not a concern but if it goes on this rate it can become a problem in the future. I believe comparing southeast with other regions in Nigeria can be difficult, built up areas in southeast if packed together can't reach Lagos & Ibadan put together. Many of those cities and towns are small in sizes. May be some people can help us place developed ibadan areas inside Anambra so that you can see the extent or put Kano or Kaduna.
If you move further and put areas with modern buildings side by side what you are shouting of may be smaller in sizes.
I laugh when you say only igbo people built their cities through their own sweat and all others were built with government money, what do you do with all your states and local governments allocations, who tarred the road to your villlage is it not the govt money, even the wealthy ones that may do community development by providing some infrastructure where are they getting the money from, space?
Am saying my people from southeast benefit from Nigeria alot more through systematic economic structure that enabled them to gain so much from Nigeria.

helinues:
Yet it's the most marginalized region in Nigeria

Walahi, weather na learner in the instability

Stop deceiving yourself.

Since 1970, the development in the East was never powered by government .

Na dem set build their land themselves.

There is a reason why Imo is 38% urbanised but Ogun, and Ekiti are less than 10% urbanised.

Without government , we monarchical Yorubas would have mud houses littered everywhere all over our capitals, like we have in Ibadan.

Who see truth make him talk, truth is like agbo jedi, e bitter but e no dey kill..

Dalohad:


Stop deceiving yourself.

Since 1970, the development in the East was never powered by government .

Na dem set build their land themselves.

There is a reason why Imo is 38% urbanised but Ogun, and Ekiti are less than 10% urbanised.

Without government , we monarchical Yorubas would have mud houses littered everywhere all over our capitals, like we have in Ibadan.

Who see truth make him talk, truth is like agbo jedi, e bitter but e no dey kill..

I believe many of you on social media are young.
The % of urban centres in Singapore and US cannot be the same because of landmass. So is Southeast and Ogun state. How many states in the east can you find in ogun state may be two or three and the east is more populated per square km.
No ethnic group can boast that they didn't benefit from govt haha. Many large buildings you see in kano, ibadan , porthacourt etc are owned by corporates, corporates are owned by people. Apart from FCT where many of their building are govt offices business owner own them and people own those businesses, i hope you get it.

mandarin:


I believe many of you on social media are young.
The % of urban centres in Singapore and US cannot be the same because of landmass. So is Southeast and Ogun state. How many states in the east can you find in ogun state may be two or three and the east is more populated per square km.
No ethnic group can boast that they didn't benefit from govt haha. Many large buildings you see in kano, ibadan , porthacourt etc are owned by corporates, corporates are owned by people. Apart from FCT where many of their building are govt offices business owner own them and people own those businesses, i hope you get it.

I am far older and intelligent than you are. You can bet on it.

Ekiti is a small state in landmass compared to Anambra, yet it's urbanisation rate is less 10%, while Anambra is 38%.

I thought we usually mock Ibos as 'developers' who cannot develop their lands?

We Yorubas run away from our villages, leaving it to rot, yet we have the temerity to point to other Nigerians asking them 'leave Lagos' because of the its level of development which was made possible by the presence of other ethnicities who have been there for more than 100 years.

PHIPEX:
Does this explain the decaying cities around you? Anambra's population is equal to Ogun population yet you can't compare the 2 in civil development of their cities. Same applies to others states.

It has little to do with landmass, otherwise we can also argue that Lagos is developed because it has the 2nd smallest landmass in Nigeria

Whatever gives you bloated massaged egos....... The same Ogun gives succour and economic asylum to numerous anambrarians. How many indigenes is seeking same from Anambra?

Dalohad:


Stop deceiving yourself.

Since 1970, the development in the East was never powered by government .

Na dem set build their land themselves.

There is a reason why Imo is 38% urbanised but Ogun, and Ekiti are less than 10% urbanised.

Without government , we monarchical Yorubas would have mud houses littered everywhere all over our capitals, like we have in Ibadan.

Who see truth make him talk, truth is like agbo jedi, e bitter but e no dey kill..

Because you guys had the power and used it to developed your region which nobody called marginalization then.

But the table has turned around, you guys are now complaining

gidgiddy:



Let's just assume that the South East is about the size of Oyo State. What they are doing in that South East speaks for its self. Outside Lagos, no other city has the highest number of story buildings than Onitsha

The question South Westerners should ask themselves is why is it that beyond Lagos that was capital of Nigeria for 80 years, and Ibadan that was capital of the old Western Region and now capital of Oyo, they have no cities worthy of note?

Aba, Nnewi and Onitsha are cities, they have never been capital of anywhere. The fact that the South West has so much land should have been a golden opportunity to show their development power. Yet if they are asked were they made a noteworthy place that was never capital, they will tell you Sango-otta

Having storied buildings is not totally a sign of development. Ratio of population to land availability may determine it. Southwesterners might use an acre of land to build a bungalow and still be fine with it.

Mind you, there's no state in SE that is as industrialised as Oyo state, while Ogun state is more industrialised than the entire SE states combined. I haven't mentioned Lagos yet.

rinzaugustine:
Tell that to people who have never been to oyo state. From Iseyin to Ibadan is 2 hours ( wetin still remain for oyo again?) while from nsukka to Enugu town is 2 hours if not more that’s Enugu state alone, even at that Igbos doesn’t boast about empty size but capacity and capability. Go to Middle East and see how Isreal the size of Enugu state put the entire Middle East in fear , with exception of America and China most of the countries world powers today are not big in size

If it takes you 2hrs to travel from Nsuka to Onitsha, a less than 60KM distance, then something is wrong somewhere. The development/infrastructure you want to claim here might not be available afterall.

Raf4:


Whatever gives you bloated massaged egos....... The same Ogun gives succour and economic asylum to numerous anambrarians. How many indigenes is seeking same from Anambra?

Because you are locked up in your cocoon, scared to move out and compete. Chinese are in Nigeria, I guess it's because Nigeria is better than China right?

Raf4:


Having storied buildings is not totally a sign of development. Ratio of population to land availability may determine it. Southwesterners might use an acre of land to build a bungalow and still be fine with it.

Mind you, there's no state in SE that is as industrialised as Oyo state, while Ogun state is more industrialised than the entire SE states combined. I haven't mentioned Lagos yet.

And yet Ogun Stste has no where that compares to Onitsha. And Oyo State has only Ibadan that was capital of the Western Region before independence

Raf4:
The only reason this is possible is because the whole of SE, available to about 40million ndigbos, is about the size of Oyo state.
Imagine if the whole of Yoruba is confined in Oyo state. All the people, infrastructure, industrial and residential estates in the SW concentrated in Oyo state. Imagine all the old wealth (Da Rocha, Odutolas, Fajemirokuns, Okunowos, Kukus, MKO, Adebisis etc) and current wealth (Adenugas, Alakijas, Tinubus, Kensingtons, Okoyas, Adelekes, Otedolas etc) with all the religious and educational institutions etc are all in Oyo state. SW would have turned to one mega city, and probably the biggest in the world.
You will just discover that your living room is in Lagos State while your bedroom falls within Ogun state. Or you and your girlfriend strolling down the street and you just discover that while you're walking on the Osun state side of the road, your girlfriend is on Ekiti state side.

Imagine if the whole of Hausa people are confined in Niger state which is about the size of southwest Nigeria?
Just imagine that.Lol

tonychristopher:


Lagos has the smallest landmass...it's not about lands it's about capacity

Why can't Oyo, Ogun 😛,Ekiti build new cities like the way Igbo cities are coming up and cornubating

From Arepo - Mowe - Magboro - Ibafo - Sagamu are all connected and these are new cities cornubating.

Abi na you clear the bushes in Mowe to develop the area?

Stop fooling yourself.

Dalohad:


Stop deceiving yourself.

Since 1970, the development in the East was never powered by government .

Na dem set build their land themselves.

There is a reason why Imo is 38% urbanised but Ogun, and Ekiti are less than 10% urbanised.

Without government , we monarchical Yorubas would have mud houses littered everywhere all over our capitals, like we have in Ibadan.

Who see truth make him talk, truth is like agbo jedi, e bitter but e no dey kill..

What a joker?

Imo more urbanized than Ogun state with 7 to 8 cities?

Abeokuta is more urbanized and developed than Owerri.

Apart from Owerri which city dey Imo state? Is it Orlu and Okigwe?

Ogun has Abeokuta, Mowe/Ibafo, Sango Ota, Sagamu, Ijebu Ode, Arepo to Magboro, Agbara, Igbesa, Ilaro etc

From Berger down to Iperu is developed and cornubating.

Which government ? Na government build all the houses in Ogun state? Na government build Redemption camp and Mountain of Fire city?

You must be deluded to think you are the most hard working person in Nigeria. See dis guy. You are deluded.

Dalohad:


Stop deceiving yourself.

Since 1970, the development in the East was never powered by government .

Na dem set build their land themselves.

There is a reason why Imo is 38% urbanised but Ogun, and Ekiti are less than 10% urbanised.

Without government , we monarchical Yorubas would have mud houses littered everywhere all over our capitals, like we have in Ibadan.

Who see truth make him talk, truth is like agbo jedi, e bitter but e no dey kill..

The modern houses in Ibadan were all built by the government, abi? O ya o d e

gidgiddy:


And yet Ogun Stste has no where that compares to Onitsha. And Oyo State has only Ibadan that was capital of the Western Region before independence

Onitsha? What is in Onitsha?

Onitsha is not as developed as Arepo - Mowe - Magboro - Ibafo axis, Sango Ota, na em you wan compare with Abeokuta?

Onitsha will be a boring city to someone living in big cities in Ogun state because social life their is low.

How many universities, stadiums, schools, estates, golf course, industrial zones, etc dey Onitsha?

forgiveness:


What a joker?

Imo more urbanized than Ogun state with 7 to 8 cities?

Abeokuta is more urbanized and developed than Owerri.

Apart from Owerri which city dey Imo state? Is it Orlu and Okigwe?

Ogun has Abeokuta, Mowe/Ibafo, Sango Ota, Sagamu, Ijebu Ode, Arepo to Magboro, Agbara, Igbesa, Ilaro etc

From Berger down to Iperu is developed.

Which government ? Na government build all the houses in Ogun state? Na government build Redemption camp and Mountain of Fire city?

You must be deluded to think you are the most hard working person in Nigeria. See dis guy. You are deluded.

Stastisense has given you the figure. 38% of Imo urbanized, while Ekiti (if you argue that it easier to develop smaller landmass) is just about 8% urbanized.

Now how do you justify that?

I left out Ogun which is just about about 10.3% because we would argue 'Oh...Ogun is very big compared to Imo bla..bla ..bla'.

Dalohad:


Stastisense has given you the figure. 38% of Imo urbanized, while Ekiti (if you argue that it easier to develop smaller landmass) is just about 8% urbanized.

Now how do you justify that?

I left out Ogun which is just about about 10.3% because we would argue 'Oh...Ogun is very big compared to Imo bla..bla ..bla'.

Can you show the link so that I can dibunk your fat lie?

From Arepo - Mowe - Magboro - Ibafo - Sagamu- Iperu - Ode Remo etc is more urbanized and developed than the whole of Imo State combined.

Bring your fact to debunk this.

forgiveness:


Can you show the link so that I can dibunk your fat lie?

From Arepo - Mowe - Magboro - Ibafo - Sagamu- Iperu - Ode Remo etc is more urbanized and developed than the whole of Imo State combined.

Bring your fact to debunk this.

Here you go.

Raf4:


If it takes you 2hrs to travel from Nsuka to Onitsha, a less than 60KM distance, then something is wrong somewhere. The development/infrastructure you want to claim here might not be available afterall.

Did I mention Onitsha in my post?

Dalohad:


I am far older and intelligent than you are. You can bet on it.

Ekiti is a small state in landmass compared to Anambra, yet it's urbanisation rate is less 10%, while Anambra is 38%.

I thought we usually Ibos as 'developers' who cannot develop their lands?

We Yorubas run away from our villages, leaving it to rot, yet we have the temerity to point to other Nigerians asking them 'leave Lagos' because of the its level of development which was made possible by the presence of other ethnicities who have been there for more than 100 years.

forgiveness:


What a joker?

Imo more urbanized than Ogun state with 7 to 8 cities?

Abeokuta is more urbanized and developed than Owerri.

Apart from Owerri which city dey Imo state? Is it Orlu and Okigwe?

Ogun has Abeokuta, Mowe/Ibafo, Sango Ota, Sagamu, Ijebu Ode, Arepo to Magboro, Agbara, Igbesa, Ilaro etc

From Berger down to Iperu is developed and cornubating.

Which government ? Na government build all the houses in Ogun state? Na government build Redemption camp and Mountain of Fire city?

You must be deluded to think you are the most hard working person in Nigeria. See dis guy. You are deluded.

Oguta
Okigwe
Orlu

Spam bot just deleted the message I sent earlier.

tonychristopher:


Oguta
Okigwe
Orlu

Oga, I have been to all these towns. Nothing compared to Ogun state cities.

gidgiddy:



Let's just assume that the South East is about the size of Oyo State. What they are doing in that South East speaks for its self. Outside Lagos, no other city has the highest number of story buildings than Onitsha

The question South Westerners should ask themselves is why is it that beyond Lagos that was capital of Nigeria for 80 years, and Ibadan that was capital of the old Western Region and now capital of Oyo, they have no cities worthy of note?

Aba, Nnewi and Onitsha are cities, they have never been capital of anywhere. The fact that the South West has so much land should have been a golden opportunity to show their development power. Yet if they are asked were they made a noteworthy place that was never capital, they will tell you Sango-otta

Are Ilesa, Abeokuta, Osogbo, Ijebu ode, Akure etc not worthy of note?. Ilesa is industrialized with brewery, nails manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, distilleries foam making, fabrication companies, agro allied companies and etc. It is wrong to say only Ibadan and Lagos are worthy of note in the west.

Dalohad:


Here you go.

Most built up state?

Ogun state land size is 16,980.55 km2 (6,556.23 sq mi) and is 10.5% built up. More than 3 times bugger than Imo State.

Imo state land size is 5,530 km2 (2,140 sq mi) and is 23.5% built up.

Ogun state is more than 3 times bigger than Imo state.

If we put the 23.5% built up area of Imo state into Ogun state, Ogun state will turn to forest but if we put 10.5% of Ogun state built up area into Imo state, Imo state will have no space to host Ogun state built up area.

Do you understand?

forgiveness:


Most built up state?

Ogun state land size is 16,980.55 km2 (6,556.23 sq mi) and is 10.5% built up. More than 3 times bugger than Ogun State.

Imo state land size is 5,530 km2 (2,140 sq mi) and is 23.5% built up.

Ogun state is more than 3 times bigger than Imo state.

If we put the 23.5% built up area of Imo state into Ogun state, Ogun state will turn to forest but if we put 10.5% of Ogun state built up area into Imo state, Imo state will have no space to host Ogun state built up area.

Do you understand?

What excuse are you making for Ekiti?
Why are you avoiding discussing Ekiti?

Dalohad:


What excuse are you making for Ekiti?
Why are you avoiding discussing Ekiti?

After we discuss Ebonyi? Why are you avoiding to discuss Ebonyi? Abi Ebonyi no be state?

mandarin:


I believe many of you on social media are young.
The % of urban centres in Singapore and US cannot be the same because of landmass. So is Southeast and Ogun state. How many states in the east can you find in ogun state may be two or three and the east is more populated per square km.
No ethnic group can boast that they didn't benefit from govt haha. Many large buildings you see in kano, ibadan , porthacourt etc are owned by corporates, corporates are owned by people. Apart from FCT where many of their building are govt offices business owner own them and people own those businesses, i hope you get it.

ogun state is more populated than imo,abia,ebonyi combined. When you add the 3 state together