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Christians call Him the Son of God.
Muslims refer to him as one of the prophets.

The born again spirit filled
believers call him the soon coming King.

Who is Jesus to you?
Was he a real individual that walked this earth 2000+ years ago or a figment or history?

This is an open thread. You're free to air your views here. Just want us to have an interesting banter

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Jesus is God made manifest in the flesh

Jashub:
Jesus is God made manifest in the flesh

Thanks @Jashub for your post.
I agree so too but let's wait and see what views others will bring to this post.

Jesus is God's only begotten Son! Matthew 16:16 compare to John 3:16

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is God's only begotten Son! Matthew 16:16 compare to John 3:16

John 1?

Zaheertyler:

John 1?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

MaxInDHouse:


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

Was a?
Go on I didn’t say 1:1

Zaheertyler:

Was a?
Go on I didn’t say 1:1

You are chatting with a Bible believer so i know what verse you want to quote anytime you make reference to the word of my God.

Jesus is not God that's why verse 18 in that chapter said:

"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him" John 1:18

Nobody has seen God but people saw Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:

You are chatting with a Bible believer so i know what verse you want to quote anytime you make reference to the word of my God.

Jesus is not God that's why verse 18 in that chapter said:

"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him" John 1:18

Nobody has seen God but people saw Jesus!

Isaiah 6:1

In the year of King Uzziah’s death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple

Jashub:



Isaiah 6:1

In the year of King Uzziah’s death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple

How many lords do you know in the Bible?

Zaheertyler:

Was a?
Go on I didn’t say 1:1

Loooool

MaxInDHouse:

You are chatting with a Bible believer so i know what verse you want to quote anytime you make reference to the word of my God.

Jesus is not God that's why verse 18 in that chapter said:

"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him" John 1:18

Nobody has seen God but people saw Jesus!

You are chatting with a Bible believer

Is the bold necessary? Just go on and leave side attraction

AngelahFlo:
Christians call Him the Son of God.
Muslims refer to him as one of the prophets.

The born again spirit filled
believers call him the soon coming King.

Who is Jesus to you?
Was he a real individual that walked this earth 2000+ years ago or a figment or history?

Jesus is either a legendised individual or legendised composite of several individuals from the 1st century CE during the Roman occupation of the Levant. That period had a bunch of apocalyptic preachers who could have been the basis for the Jesus of the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:


How many lords do you know in the Bible?

This is the Hebrew translation of Isaiah 6:1:


בשנת מות המלך עזיהו ואראה את אדני ישב על כסא רם ונשא ושוליו מלאים את ההיכל׃


The word used us Adonai

In Hebrew, "Adonai" (אֲדֹנָי) means "my Lord" and is a title used to refer to God. It is often used in Jewish prayer and scripture as a way to address God with reverence. The term is derived from the root word "adon," which means "lord" or "master." In religious contexts, "Adonai" is used as a substitute for the Tetragrammaton (YHWH), the sacred name of God in Judaism, particularly when reading scripture aloud.

So , are trying to tell us that Adonai (a sacred name) was used by Jewish writers carelessly?

Jashub:
This is the Hebrew translation of Isaiah 6:1:
בשנת מות המלך עזיהו ואראה את אדני ישב על כסא רם ונשא ושוליו מלאים את ההיכל׃
The word used us Adonai
In Hebrew, "Adonai" (אֲדֹנָי) means "my Lord" and is a title used to refer to God. It is often used in Jewish prayer and scripture as a way to address God with reverence. The term is derived from the root word "adon," which means "lord" or "master." In religious contexts, "Adonai" is used as a substitute for the Tetragrammaton (YHWH), the sacred name of God in Judaism, particularly when reading scripture aloud.
So , are trying to tell us that Adonai (a sacred name) was used by Jewish writers carelessly?

You didn't answer the question.

How many lords do you know in the Bible?

Or better still tell me which among these two is YHWH:
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The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1 NIV

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalms 110:1 KJV

Please which between the two is YHWH?

MaxInDHouse:


You didn't answer the question.

How many lords do you know in the Bible?

Or better still tell me which among these two is YHWH:
‬
The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1 NIV

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalms 110:1 KJV

Please which between the two is YHWH?

Oga, the Hebrews used a particular context to specify what kind of lord they were referring.
Which is why the translators used capitals in referring to Adonai(Lord)

To answer your second question:

YHWH...is both of them. That scripture is referring to the God the Father, saying to Jesus ( God the son ) to sit at his right hand .


Jesus is God and so is the Father , and the Holy Spirit. All three are one God (John10:30)

Jashub:
Oga, the Hebrews used a particular context to specify what kind of lord they were referring.
Which is why the translators used capitals in referring to Adonai(Lord)
To answer your second question:
YHWH...is both of them. That scripture is referring to the God the Father, saying to Jesus ( God the son ) to sit at his right hand. Jesus is God and so is the Father , and the Holy Spirit. All three are one God (John10:30)

Well this is contrary to what Jesus taught and what his disciples believe.

Regarding Psalms 110:1

Peter (a born again Christian in the first century) said:

For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Act 2:34-35

Jehovah (YWWH) spoke to Jesus not Jesus speaking to Jesus or Jehovah speaking to Jehovah.

In the first century Jesus said:

I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 5:30

Jesus' disciples said:

The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake. Act 5:30

Paul told the Jews:

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7

So both Jesus and his disciples told us that he (Jesus) is God's Son not God! John 3:16; Matthew 16:13-16

Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:


Well this is contrary to what Jesus taught and what his disciples believe.

Regarding Psalms 110:1

Peter (a born again Christian in the first century) said:

For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Act 2:34-35

Jehovah (YWWH) spoke to Jesus not Jesus speaking to Jesus or Jehovah speaking to Jehovah.

In the first century Jesus said:

I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 5:30

Jesus' disciples said:

The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake. Act 5:30

Paul told the Jews:

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7

So both Jesus and his disciples told us that he (Jesus) is God's Son not God! John 3:16; Matthew 16:13-16

Thanks!

[/b] For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Act 2:34-35[b]

This scripture is referring to a report of what David saw; he was an observer.

Secondly, Jesus blatantly told his listeners that "I and my Father(God Almighty) are one"(John10:30 ). And to them , this was blasphemous...and they knew what He was saying, which is why they picked up stones to throw at Him.

Even Philip at one time challenged Jesus to show Him the Father , and Jesus blankly told him(Philip) , that anyone who has seen me has seen the Father (John14:9).

So anyone disagreeing is just disagreeing with what Jesus said about Himself

Jashub:
[/b] For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Act 2:34-35[b]

This scripture is referring to a report of what David saw; he was an observer.

Secondly, Jesus blatantly told his listeners that "I and my Father(God Almighty) are one"(John10:30 ). And to them , this was blasphemous...and they knew what He was saying, which is why they picked up stones to throw at Him.

Even Philip at one time challenged Jesus to show Him the Father , and Jesus blankly told him(Philip) , that anyone who has seen me has seen the Father (John14:9).

So anyone disagreeing is just disagreeing with what Jesus said about Himself

You've repeated what Jesus said at John 10:30 which means he is in full agreement with his God and father just as we Christians are one with our God! John 17:22

Jesus called us his brothers and said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus is my brother and because he's God's anointed King he is my lord but as for our God and father Jesus is not that one rather Jesus and i have the same God and father!

MaxInDHouse:


You've repeated what Jesus said at John 10:30 which means he is in full agreement with his God and father just as we Christians are one with our God! John 17:22

Jesus called us his brothers and said:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

So Jesus is my brother and because he's God's anointed King he is my lord but as for our God and father Jesus is not that one rather Jesus and i have the same God and father!

You still do not get it. Jesus told His listeners that I and My Father are one (John10:30)...which does not translate to agreement; it translates to I-am -equal -to -God. Which is why they wanted to stone Him...

You don't get stoned for agreeing with God. You get stoned for claiming to be God(aka blasphemy)

MaxInDHouse:

You are chatting with a Bible believer so i know what verse you want to quote anytime you make reference to the word of my God.

Jesus is not God that's why verse 18 in that chapter said:

"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him" John 1:18

Nobody has seen God but people saw Jesus!

maxi you and twisting the biblical na 5 and 6.
The Bible said no one has seen God at any time but the only begotten son but you twisted it and said the only begotten god.
What do you want gain with this twisting and false doctrine.

delkuf:
maxi you and twisting the biblical na 5 and 6.
The Bible said no one has seen God at any time but the only begotten son but you twisted it and said the only begotten god.
What do you want gain with this twisting and false doctrine.

It is a JW tactic ...really feel sorry for them

Jashub:
It is a JW tactic ...really feel sorry for them

the guy na serious twister of the Bible. Something said son and he is saying god.

The son Jesus Christ has seen the Father and he is one with the Father

Jashub:
You still do not get it. Jesus told His listeners that I and My Father are one (John10:30)...which does not translate to agreement; it translates to I-am -equal -to -God. Which is why they wanted to stone Him...

You don't get stoned for agreeing with God. You get stoned for claiming to be God(aka blasphemy)

What about:

I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. John 17:22

So i'm God since i'm one with the father the same way Jesus is one with the father, shey?

delkuf:
maxi you and twisting the biblical na 5 and 6.
The Bible said no one has seen God at any time but the only begotten son but you twisted it and said the only begotten god.
What do you want gain with this twisting and false doctrine.

Check different translations that's what i found in a translation!

What did I say that I was banned?
I did not use any curse words.

Jesus is a myth simple and short.
He was created by the Roman empire. Woman don't just magically become pregnant.
They need a male input.
God mating with humans is the Hallmark of Greek/Roman mythology....
Jesus and persus belong to same category.

LordReed:


Jesus is either a legendised individual or legendised composite of several individuals from the 1st century CE during the Roman occupation of the Levant. That period had a bunch of apocalyptic preachers who could have been the basis for the Jesus of the Bible.

So where did all those profound words in the Bible come?

delkuf:
maxi you and twisting the biblical na 5 and 6.
The Bible said no one has seen God at any time but the only begotten son but you twisted it and said the only begotten god.
What do you want gain with this twisting and false doctrine.

He belongs to a cult where the fear of disfellowship is the begining of wisdom. He is INCAPABLE of deviating from JW governing body line

Jashub:
Oga, the Hebrews used a particular context to specify what kind of lord they were referring.
Which is why the translators used capitals in referring to Adonai(Lord)

To answer your second question:

YHWH...is both of them. That scripture is referring to the God the Father, saying to Jesus ( God the son ) to sit at his right hand .


Jesus is God and so is the Father , and the Holy Spirit. All three are one God (John10:30)

So that makes them how many God?