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Continuation of Part 1
While there are no indications in the texts showing what God meant by “day” or “death,” we have tried to add nuances to the texts to make sense of the whole situation in a way that does not portray God as a bluffer.

Some say the "day" is 1,000 years, while others say it’s a 24-hour day. Some say the "death" was spiritual, while others believe it was a natural death. Some interpret the death as separation from God. However, it is worth noting that none of these nuances can be clearly seen in the text. They are often added by individuals, as the text neither implies nor infers any of these meanings.

How Do We Know What God Meant?
We simply have to continue reading to understand the statement. We must read toward the actual fall to grasp what God meant.

What Did God Say After Adam Ate the Fruit?
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. — Genesis 3:19
God told Adam that he would return to where he came from.

Recall that Adam did not exist until God created him from the ground. To "return to where he was taken from" means to return to nonexistence—by the same ground from which he was made to exist.

Therefore, the death mentioned in the text refers to the second death. Until a man dies the second death, he is not truly dead before God. God was simply telling Adam that he would experience the second death if he ate from the tree.

On Which Day Will He Die?
Adam was in the presence of God (in the garden) when he received the command and when he disobeyed it. After his disobedience, Adam was cast out of the garden—away from the presence of God. Since Adam no longer experienced the "day of the Lord," he could not have died on a day he could not partake in.

Therefore, the "day" in the presence of God must return to earth for Adam to die on that day. This refers to the day when Christ will return in the power of God, and Adam will be subjected to death for introducing sin into the world.

Conclusion
The "death" is the second death, which all sinners must undergo, while the "day" which Adam will die is the day of the Lord.
Thank you for reading.

Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

The story of Adam and Eve is an allegorical representation of the travails of Israel.

Adam is the house of David, Eve is the people, both of them are the whole house of Israel.

The garden of Eden is the land God gave to the Israelites after they left Egypt

The Serpent is a people who were very cunning and deceitful

The forbidden fruit is the idolatry of this nation that was the previous dwellers of the land before God gave it to Israel

God told Israel that they should have nothing to do with the fruit of the forbidden tree, but they did not obey. The trees are people, and their fruits is the works of their hand

Israel lost the presence of God due to transgression, and the Deuteronomy 28 curses was activated upon them

It was Israel's commingling with the people they were commanded to destroy that destroyed them too

Exodus 34:11-17
King James Version
11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

oridavid:
Continuation of Part 1
While there are no indications in the texts showing what God meant by “day” or “death,” we have tried to add nuances to the texts to make sense of the whole situation in a way that does not portray God as a bluffer.

Some say the "day" is 1,000 years, while others say it’s a 24-hour day. Some say the "death" was spiritual, while others believe it was a natural death. Some interpret the death as separation from God. However, it is worth noting that none of these nuances can be clearly seen in the text. They are often added by individuals, as the text neither implies nor infers any of these meanings.

How Do We Know What God Meant?
We simply have to continue reading to understand the statement. We must read toward the actual fall to grasp what God meant.

What Did God Say After Adam Ate the Fruit?
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. — Genesis 3:19
God told Adam that he would return to where he came from.

Recall that Adam did not exist until God created him from the ground. To "return to where he was taken from" means to return to nonexistence—by the same ground from which he was made to exist.

Therefore, the death mentioned in the text refers to the second death. Until a man dies the second death, he is not truly dead before God. God was simply telling Adam that he would experience the second death if he ate from the tree.

On Which Day Will He Die?
Adam was in the presence of God (in the garden) when he received the command and when he disobeyed it. After his disobedience, Adam was cast out of the garden—away from the presence of God. Since Adam no longer experienced the "day of the Lord," he could not have died on a day he could not partake in.

Therefore, the "day" in the presence of God must return to earth for Adam to die on that day. This refers to the day when Christ will return in the power of God, and Adam will be subjected to death for introducing sin into the world.

Conclusion
The "death" is the second death, which all sinners must undergo, while the "day" which Adam will die is the day of the Lord.
Thank you for reading.

Why did Jesus need to come again before Adam dies when the Bible refer Jesus as the second Adam?

Should'nt casting of Adam out of the garden fulfilment of the "Death"

oridavid:

Some say the "day" is 1,000 years, while others say it’s a 24-hour day.... However, it is worth noting that none of these nuances can be clearly seen in the text. They are often added by individuals, as the text neither implies nor infers any of these meanings...

Devil, so it is people that added
Psalm 90:42 and Peter 3:8, Abi?

As I said you just want us to know that you have signed up for hellfire

oridavid:

...Recall that Adam did not exist until God created him from the ground. To "return to where he was taken from" means to return to nonexistence—by the same ground from which he was made to exist.

Therefore, the death mentioned in the text refers to the second death. Until a man dies the second death, he is not truly dead before God. God was simply telling Adam that he would experience the second death if he ate from the tree.

Now you have done ojoro and shifted post to death which is not your topic.

And Second death means that there was a first death.

Meanwhile, Adam had never died before, so you are talking rubbish.

oridavid:

On Which Day Will He Die?
Adam was in the presence of God (in the garden) when he received the command and when he disobeyed it. After his disobedience, Adam was cast out of the garden—away from the presence of God. Since Adam no longer experienced the "day of the Lord," he could not have died on a day he could not partake in.

Therefore, the "day" in the presence of God must return to earth for Adam to die on that day. This refers to the day when Christ will return in the power of God, and Adam will be subjected to death for introducing sin into the world.

After Adam were Cain and Abel not still in the presence of The Lord even after no man was in the garden of Eden?

See, you are talking rubbish all because you want to deceive people to you to die just as Satan did to female Adam

NNtv:


Why did Jesus need to come again before Adam dies when the Bible refer Jesus as the second Adam?

Should'nt casting of Adam out of the garden fulfilment of the "Death"

Good point, very thoughtful of you.

So let’s look at that. Jesus did not come for Adam. God had already told Adam that he’ll die. The death God was talking about is that death that Jesus called the second death. People didn’t know of it, that’s why Jesus revealed it.

So that death will happen when Christ returns and to open the lake of fire. That’s when Adam will surely die as God had said.

This is a beautiful perspective. Never saw it like this.

I think we should not sound too theological that we throw facts away. All the event of Genesis 2-3 are not about Israel even though you can see allegories in it. So let’s not outrightly say the story is about Israel. However, can say the story also represent Israel.

MrPresident1:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

The story of Adam and Eve is an allegorical representation of the travails of Israel.

Adam is the house of David, Eve is the people, both of them are the whole house of Israel.

The garden of Eden is the land God gave to the Israelites after they left Egypt

The Serpent is a people who were very cunning and deceitful

The forbidden fruit is the idolatry of this nation that was the previous dwellers of the land before God gave it to Israel

God told Israel that they should have nothing to do with the fruit of the forbidden tree, but they did not obey. The trees are people, and their fruits is the works of their hand

Israel lost the presence of God due to transgression, and the Deuteronomy 28 curses was activated upon them

It was Israel's commingling with the people they were commanded to destroy that destroyed them too

Exodus 34:11-17
King James Version
11 Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

Everything in the Bible is directly or indirectly about Israel.

oridavid:
This is a beautiful perspective. Never saw it like this.

I think we should not sound too theological that we throw facts away. All the event of Genesis 2-3 are not about Israel even though you can see allegories in it. So let’s not outrightly say the story is about Israel. However, can say the story also represent Israel.

That’s also a good thinking.

However, we must be flexible enough to see that everything in the Bible is not just for Israel. They’re for a kind of people. Israel represented an example of that kind of people so everything pointed to Israel as an example until we actually see those people.

When Christ came, he established that kingdom and became the first of that kind of people which the Bible was actually talking about when it points to Israel as an example.

This is why the Bible says he is the first of every creation—Colossians 1:15.

Was Christ the first person ever born in Israel? No, but he was the first person to exist among that people that the Bible actually points to. This is why someone even called him “last Adam” in the Bible because the story in the Bible is actually about him being the first man God creates and blessed him with all authority to rule the fishes and every creature and gave him power to subdue the earth and fill it up with the fragrance of God.

MrPresident1:
Everything in the Bible is directly or indirectly about Israel.

You are factually incorrect.

The Bible is firstly for Israel, and all Israel will be saved Romans 11:26, and then for all people who received the message to come into the commonwealth of Israel via the death of Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:15 is talking about the preeminence of Christ above all creation, above everything, both in heaven and on earth

Colossians 1:15-16
King James Version
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Can you show me just one thing inside the Bible that is directly or indirectly not for Israel and by Israel?

oridavid:
That’s also a good thinking.

However, we must be flexible enough to see that everything in the Bible is not just for Israel. They’re for a kind of people. Israel represented an example of that kind of people so everything pointed to Israel as an example until we actually see those people.

When Christ came, he established that kingdom and became the first of that kind of people which the Bible was actually talking about when it points to Israel as an example.

This is why the Bible says he is the first of every creation—Colossians 1:15.

Was Christ the first person ever born in Israel? No, but he was the first person to exist among that people that the Bible actually points to. This is why someone even called him “last Adam” in the Bible because the story in the Bible is actually about him being the first man God creates and blessed him with all authority to rule the fishes and every creature and gave him power to subdue the earth and fill it up with the fragrance of God.

oridavid:
➜ What Did God Say After Adam Ate the Fruit?
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. — Genesis 3:19
God told Adam that he would return to where he came from. Recall that Adam did not exist until God created him from the ground. To "return to where he was taken from" means to return to nonexistence—by the same ground from which he was made to exist. Therefore, the death mentioned in the text refers to the second death. Until a man dies the second death, he is not truly dead before God. God was simply telling Adam that he would experience the second death if he ate from the tree.

This is utter bullsheet! When did the first death take place that you would see fit to regard this first description given of death in the book as what you refer to as a second death?

oridavid:
On Which Day Will He Die?
Adam was in the presence of God (in the garden) when he received the command and when he disobeyed it. After his disobedience, Adam was cast out of the garden—away from the presence of God. Since Adam no longer experienced the "day of the Lord," he could not have died on a day he could not partake in.
Therefore, the "day" in the presence of God must return to earth for Adam to die on that day. This refers to the day when Christ will return in the power of God, and Adam will be subjected to death for introducing sin into the world.
Conclusion The "death" is the second death, which all sinners must undergo, while the "day" which Adam will die is the day of the Lord.

This, your conclusion included, amounts to religious gobbledegook! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

How in the world did Christ come into this when the man, Adam, died at least a thousand years before Israel, and many thousands more before Jesus Christ of Israel came into the picture?

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Like I always say here, if you like learn, if you like don't....
The Torah was written when the isrealites returned home from the Babylonian exile by a group of priest led by Ezra. The creation of the universe and the subsequent introduction of death are all a summary of the creation of the universe by Marduk. The Adam and Eve story is an adaptation or a recast of the Adapa story. It just tells how man lost the chance of immortality. The spirit is immortal but man is not. The spirit is the same image and likeness as God, while the body is same image and likeness as the earth.
Man is made up of dust of the earth and the breath (spirit) of God. When Adam(man) ate the fruit he brought death on himself. Just as God defined it...Body returns to earth and spirit return to God. (See Ecclesiastics 12:7) Nothing more.
When a spirit "dies" it means it is coming into the physical world. And vice versa ....

Life is a circle....not a straight line. Death is just a point on it.

Tell me about this Adapa story pls

sonmvayina:
Like I always say here, if you like learn, if you like don't....
The Torah was written when the isrealites returned home from the Babylonian exile by a group of priest led by Ezra. The creation of the universe and the subsequent introduction of death are all a summary of the creation of the universe by Marduk. The Adam and Eve story is an adaptation or a recast of the Adapa story. It just tells how man lost the chance of immortality. The spirit is immortal but man is not. The spirit is the same image and likeness as God, while the body is same image and likeness as the earth.
Man is made up of dust of the earth and the breath (spirit) of God. When Adam(man) ate the fruit he brought death on himself. Just as God defined it...Body returns to earth and spirit return to God. (See Ecclesiastics 12:7) Nothing more.
When a spirit "dies" it means it is coming into the physical world. And vice versa ....

Life is a circle....not a straight line. Death is just a point on it.

oridavid:
Tell me about this Adapa story pls

According to the books, Moses wrote the book of the Law while Joshua and even David read the Law. It is recorded that Solomon, like the other kings in the land, had a copy of the book of the Law. The book of the Law was written and available to the people before the capture and eventual exile of the Jewish population of Israel to the land of Babylon.

oridavid:
Tell me about this Adapa story pls

Adapa, was like Adam, made from the dust or earth.
One day while fishing, he broke the wings of the south wind(Ninlil), that is the consort of Enlil. Who swore to kill him. Adapa ran to Enki and told him what Ninlil has swore to do. Enki told him that it was only Anu that can help and prepared him for the journey. He however warned him not to eat whatever food that is presented to him. So Adapa set out for Anu heavenly palace. He was ushered in by Ninghizhida (the serpent of the good tree) and Dimuzi (the serpent of the evil) when he got there.
After he has told Anu why he came, Anu told the two serpents to get him the food of life. He refused, because of what Enki had told him. When Anu inquired why he refused to eat the food. He said "My Lord EA(Enki) warned him not to eat of anything. Anu started laughing, because he found it funny. He then sent Adapa back to earth to face the consequences...
So that's how he missed the chance of being immortal.

oridavid:
➜ On Which Day Will He Die? Adam was in the presence of God (in the garden) when he received the command and when he disobeyed it. After his disobedience, Adam was cast out of the garden—away from the presence of God. Since Adam no longer experienced the "day of the Lord," he could not have died on a day he could not partake in.
➜Therefore, the "day" in the presence of God must return to earth for Adam to die on that day. This refers to the day when Christ will return in the power of God, and Adam will be subjected to death for introducing sin into the world.
➜ Conclusion: The "death" is the second death, which all sinners must undergo, while the "day" which Adam will die is the day of the Lord.

This pronouncement of yours is unreasonable at best. 😏

Let's consider this issue from the angle of reality in today's world. Imagine Adam, while living on the Pacific Coast—California— in the United States, entered into a contract agreement that stipulated that penalties for breaking the agreement would kick in 24 hours after the fact. If Adam moves to Nigeria right after breaking the agreement, would the penalty be imposed following Nigerian time? Or would it be imposed on Adam 24 hours from the time he violated the deal back California? I think the answer is obvious, right?

The and conditions of the commandment(along with associated penalties) were established while Adam was in the presence of God, where a day amounted to a thousand years. Adam was living at the time in the presence of the Lord— a day is a 1000 days. So, your assertion that having moved to a new time zone, the original timezone where the agreement was entered into no longer mattered as far as the punishment that awaited Adam is a lot nonsensical. 😏😏

2. Nonsense!

3. Nonsense!

We're saying the same thing, however, you and I understand presence of the Lord differently.

Presence of the Lord is the Day of rest, the day that has never happened on earth. It's in that Day that Adam will die. And we know that Jesus will bring that Day on earth in the end. Consequently, Adam will die in the end.

Kobojunkie:
This pronouncement of yours is unreasonable at best. 😏

Let's consider this issue from the angle of reality in today's world. Imagine Adam, while living on the Pacific Coast—California— in the United States, entered into a contract agreement that stipulated that penalties for breaking the agreement would kick in 24 hours after the fact. If Adam moves to Nigeria right after breaking the agreement, would the penalty be imposed following Nigerian time? Or would it be imposed on Adam 24 hours from the time he violated the deal back California? I think the answer is obvious, right?

The and conditions of the commandment(along with associated penalties) were established while Adam was in the presence of God, where a day amounted to a thousand years. Adam was living at the time in the presence of the Lord— a day is a 1000 days. So, your assertion that having moved to a new time zone, the original timezone where the agreement was entered into no longer mattered as far as the punishment that awaited Adam is a lot nonsensical. 😏😏

2. Nonsense!

3. Nonsense!

But this is a totally different story form the bible's Adam or what do you think?

sonmvayina:

Adapa, was like Adam, made from the dust or earth.
One day while fishing, he broke the wings of the south wind(Ninlil), that is the consort of Enlil. Who swore to kill him. Adapa ran to Enki and told him what Ninlil has swore to do. Enki told him that it was only Anu that can help and prepared him for the journey. He however warned him not to eat whatever food that is presented to him. So Adapa set out for Anu heavenly palace. He was ushered in by Ninghizhida (the serpent of the good tree) and Dimuzi (the serpent of the evil) when he got there.
After he has told Anu why he came, Anu told the two serpents to get him the food of life. He refused, because of what Enki had told him. When Anu inquired why he refused to eat the food. He said "My Lord EA(Enki) warned him not to eat of anything. Anu started laughing, because he found it funny. He then sent Adapa back to earth to face the consequences...
So that's how he missed the chance of being immortal.

oridavid:
➜We're saying the same thing, however, you and I understand presence of the Lord differently.
➜Presence of the Lord is the Day of rest, the day that has never happened on earth.
➜It's in that Day that Adam will die.
➜ And we know that Jesus will bring that Day on earth in the end. Consequently, Adam will die in the end.

How can you and I be saying the same thing when nothing of what we posted is the same? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

There is no such thing as understanding the Lord differently. Have you not figured out that your many interpretations are nothing but spins, aka lies, when put against the details actually recorded in the book you pretend to quote from?

2. Huh? The book claims that a day in the presence of YHWH is as a thousand years, so are you insinuating that a thousand years has never happened on earth?

3. Adam is recorded to have died before he clocked a thousand Earth years.

4. Nonsense! If Adam already died before he clocked 1000 years of age, why in the world would he need to be raised to die again for Pete's sake? These una stories dey ALWAYS defy the stories written in that book. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

I really understand your point and I see it.

I'm sorry I just need to make slight adjustment to your thought.

The bible never said that a day years in God's presence is a thousand years on earth. For context, you need to understand that simile was in that place to tell you that it's just figure of speech and not a fact. It was a figure of speech to say that a day before God is a very long time and when that time is ed, it's ed vividly. It's not a yardstick for time measurement. It's just figure of speech. Try to look at it again, pls.

Kobojunkie:
How can you and I be saying the same thing when nothing of what we posted is the same? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

There is no such thing as understanding the Lord differently. Have you not figured out that your many interpretations are nothing but spins, aka lies, when put against the details actually recorded in the book you pretend to quote from?

2. Huh? The book claims that a day in the presence of YHWH is as a thousand years, so are you insinuating that a thousand years has never happened on earth?

3. Adam is recorded to have died before he clocked a thousand Earth years.

4. Nonsense! If Adam already died before he clocked 1000 years of age, why in the world would he need to be raised to die again for Pete's sake? These una stories dey ALWAYS defy the stories written in that book. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

oridavid:
➜ I really understand your point and I see it. I'm sorry I just need to make slight adjustment to your thought. The bible never said that a day years in God's presence is a thousand years on earth.
➜ For context, you need to understand that simile was in that place to tell you that it's just figure of speech and not a fact.
➜ It was a figure of speech to say that a day before God is a very long time and when that time is ed, it's ed vividly. It's not a yardstick for time measurement. It's just figure of speech. Try to look at it again, pls.

Stop rambling!

That book claims that by the of two or three witnesses shall a truth, not spoken directly from the mouth of YHWH, be established - Deuteronomy 17 vs 6. So, we have two witnesses describing a day in God's presence as a thousand human years.

1 My Lord, you have been our home forever and ever.
2 You were God before the mountains were born, before the earth and the world were made. You have always been and will always be God!
3 You bring people into this world, and you change them into dust again.
4 To you, a thousand years is like yesterday, like a few hours in the night.
5 Our life is like a dream that ends when morning comes. We are like grass - Psalm 90 vs 1 - 5

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8 But don’t forget this one thing, dear friends: To the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day.
9 The Lord is not being slow in doing what he promised—the way some people understand slowness. But God is being patient with you. He doesn’t want anyone to be lost. He wants everyone to change their ways and stop sinning. - 2 Peter 3 vs 8-9

2. Wrong! A simile is a comparison made between two things as a way to reveal a likeness that exists between them. It shows a relationship that exists between one thing and another thing. It is about how two things are alike and the comparison is usually subjective, but since we are given the rule in Deuteronomy 17 vs 6, it becomes a truth—exactly that, a yardstick—as there are two witnesses to this in the book.

oridavid:
But this is a totally different story form the bible's Adam or what do you think?

Yes...but the same message.
Adapa did not eat it and ended up losing a chance at immortality
Adam ate and also lost the chance at immortality....
Same motifs, just recast.

Oh I see but to help you better, Adam also did not eat because it was the tree of life that was given him to eat.

All the same, I think they are different story and the premises are totally different

sonmvayina:


Yes...but the same message.
Adapa did not eat it and ended up losing a chance at immortality
Adam ate and also lost the chance at immortality....
Same motifs, just recast.

I can understand you. Take your time and study the bible carefully, and especially the verse in 2 peter.

You'll see that both verses are talking about the judgment to come. They're both pointing to the day of Judgment which will happen when Christ returns. That is the day reserved for all judgments, even the judgment on Adam.

It's ok if you disagree though, I'm not here to make you understand what I say, I just posted what I know. Whoever find it reasonable will learn from me, you don't have to. Thank you for your time though. Chao chao .

Kobojunkie:
Stop rambling!

That book claims that by the of two or three witnesses shall a truth, not spoken directly from the mouth of YHWH, be established - Deuteronomy 17 vs 6. So, we have two witnesses describing a day in God's presence as a thousand human years.

...


2. Wrong! A simile is a comparison made between two things as a way to reveal a likeness that exists between them. It shows a relationship that exists between one thing and another thing. It is about how two things are alike and the comparison is usually subjective, but since we are given the rule in Deuteronomy 17 vs 6, it becomes a truth—exactly that, a yardstick—as there are two witnesses to this in the book.

oridavid:
➜I can understand you. Take your time and study the bible carefully, and especially the verse in 2 peter. You'll see that both verses are talking about the judgment to come. They're both pointing to the day of Judgment which will happen when Christ returns. That is the day reserved for all judgments, even the judgment on Adam. It's ok if you disagree though, I'm not here to make you understand what I say, I just posted what I know. Whoever find it reasonable will learn from me, you don't have to. Thank you for your time though. Chao chao .

Religion and lies are indeed 5 & 6— inseparable! 🙄🙄🙄

So, even though none of the two ages — Psalm 90 vs 1 - 4 & 2 Peter 3 vs 8=9 — makes any mention of the person of Jesus Christ of Israel or Adam, you instead instead that the ages are about Jesus Christ, some judgment and Adam? 🙄🙄

That's understandable, just read 2 Peter 3:7-10, don't just read verse 8-9. Read broader. You'll see it's about judgment and the day of the Lord to come.

Like I said, you mustn't agree with me but take your time to read it again.

Thanks for your time every time.

Kobojunkie:
Religion and lies are indeed 5 & 6— inseparable! 🙄🙄🙄

So, even though none of the two ages — Psalm 90 vs 1 - 4 & 2 Peter 3 vs 8=9 — makes any mention of the person of Jesus Christ of Israel or Adam, you instead instead that the ages are about Jesus Christ, some judgment and Adam? 🙄🙄

oridavid:
That's understandable, just read 2 Peter 3:7-10, don't just read verse 8-9. Read broader. You'll see it's about judgment and the day of the Lord to come. Like I said, you mustn't agree with me but take your time to read it again. Thanks for your time every time.

The only understandable issue here is that religion— the doctrines and traditions of men you hold to — requires you to utterly reject that which is plainly stated in the text which you pretend to quote from to assert an interpretation— a spin, entirely removed from the message intended by the authors of the individual texts — that rather aligns with the doctrines of your religious overlords — your gods of men— in its place.

oridavid:
Oh I see but to help you better, Adam also did not eat because it was the tree of life that was given him to eat.

All the same, I think they are different story and the premises are totally different

The stories are different, because they are of different people and cultures, but the message they both convey is the same.

it's similar but not the same.

sonmvayina:


The stories are different, because they are of different people and cultures, but the message they both convey is the same.