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Ballzproblem2: 10:58am On May 22
We told you,we warned you that the free Palestine movement was never about Palestinians,it was Jewish hatred ,this is what happens when western leaders fail to ban gathering in the name of Palestine.

His blood is on western leaders that enabled this sick group, Emmanuel macron, Carney,lammy all of you will answer to God.

Unfortunately I expect more incidents like this.

Ballzproblem2: 11:02am On May 22
You don't see Russians getting harassed for Ukraine war, you don't Turks getting harassed for the atrocities being done by turkey in Syria on the Kurdish people.

But everyday we see Jews who had nothing to do with the war getting harassed, some of them don't even like netanyahu because of liberal values.

They say Jews belong to Europe but constantly harass Jews in the same Europe , America and across the world.

Palestine will never get a state till this world end.
Ibime(m): 11:02am On May 22
All these long epistles na waste of energy. No Governors, no mandate. Like I said, it was Buharis refusal to use the machinery of Federal Government to rig that gave Atiku and Obi hope in the last election. Tinubu will do no such thing. To paraphrase Afrodoc, without doing electoral Mathematics, you labour in vain

Niggas better accept Tinubu till 2031 and plan their lives within those parameters

In the words of the old Lutherian prayer "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference"

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LordAdam16: 11:11am On May 22
BlueRayDick:


I am not an Obidient. I am a Nigerian who voted for Obi in the last election and will note vote for Atiku if he's on the ballot whether Obi decides to contest or not.

No be u go tell me who I go vote for. When u said u will only vote Atiku or Jonathan, did u see me fighting with u over ur personal political decision ? Did I gaslight u and start calling u names? If u don't want to be drawn into diatribes , then u will respect my own decision not to vote the 81 year old Dubai resident in 2027.

I will complain about Tinubu's istration like every other person when he's taking decisions that can 4ck the country up. I'm sure Atiku too will continue to complain if and when he loses the election again. Nothing spoil.

That is your right.

Let me recap.
In 2023, you voted for Obi when he had no chance of winning. Tinubu benefits.
In 2027, you will not vote for an hypothetical Atiku/Obi coalition ticket that Obi personally touts as the best path forward. Tinubu benefits.

It is also my right to tell you both actions taken together make you a closet Tinubu er.
And that your harsh comments about Tinubu's istration should at best be taken with a grain of salt.

Larride has complained about some Tinubu missteps.
Larride will vote for Tinubu in 2027, as is his right.
Larride is a Tinubu er.
Na you dey turn amala say you no be Tinubu er after potentially delivering for Tinubu both times when it mattered.
Talk is cheap. When the rubber meets the road, we all now know you will work for Tinubu directly or indirectly.

-Lord

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BlueRayDick: 11:12am On May 22
When they talk about Atiku having northern votes in the bag, one would be wondering if it is the same Atiku that was defeated in his home zone by a southerner or another one. Maybe we should also talk about how Atiku riding on PDP a mega party polled 9k votes in Anambra that has always been a PDP state in the past.

We ask simple question: "What does Atiku bring to the table apart from his Name (which obviously seem to carry less weight like it used to in the past)?", na full textbook we dey read on why Obi and his ers must vote Atiku or be labelled Tinubu closet irer.

You want to talk about VP's wielding power u skipped the last 2 VPs and the incumbent VP, u conveniently went to do a blast-from-the-past by using Atiku as an example of a powerful VP. We saw how powerful Namadi Sambo was, we saw how Osinbajo was given free hand to operate under Buhari na and we are seeing Shettima having his way amongst the Lagos boys in surrounding the president.
afrodoc2: 11:16am On May 22
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BlueRayDick: 11:17am On May 22
LordAdam16:


That is your right.

Let me recap.
In 2023, you voted for Obi when he had no chance of winning. Tinubu benefits.
In 2027, you will not vote for an hypothetical Atiku/Obi coalition ticket that Obi personally touts as the best path forward. Tinubu benefits.

It is also my right to tell you both actions taken together make you a closet Tinubu er.
And that your harsh comments about Tinubu's istration should at best be taken with a grain of salt.

Larride has complained about some Tinubu missteps.
Larride will vote for Tinubu in 2027, as is his right.
Larride is a Tinubu er.
Na you dey turn amala say you no be Tinubu er after potentially delivering for Tinubu both times when it mattered.
Talk is cheap. When the rubber meets the road, we all now know you will work for Tinubu directly or indirectly.

-Lord

Whatever makes u sleep well at night.

When the time comes Atiku will lose as usual and u will have ur chance to wail about how Obi ers didn't allow him win while turning blind eye to his numerous baggage's. Let him go and chill in Dubai as usual and expect miracle to happen.

And once again I will criticize Tinubu's government and point his mess up out. Anybody wey wan get migrane about that, na their palava be that.

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TemporaryHansel: 12:22pm On May 22
After the disaster Tinubu has unleashed on this country, if any Obidient is still saying they won’t vote Obi if he runs as VP with Atiku, you’re nothing but a fake Tinubu er in disguise. You're about to repeat the same catastrophic mistake you made last time. The common enemy here is crystal clear: Tinubu. Peter Obi as VP? Absolutely not something to be dismissed, just like OBJ couldn’t simply sideline Atiku back in the day. Without a solid partnership between Atiku and Obi, Tinubu stays planted in that seat. If you’re still clinging to the delusion that you’ll only Obi as president, it’s painfully obvious you’re an APC mole, a secret Tinubu fan, and you want him to remain president.
Thank you for your attention on this matter.

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Fadedvoiced: 12:25pm On May 22
@semid4lyfe please unblock my last post made with my temporaryhansel .
Theflint1(m): 12:27pm On May 22
Atiku is closer to where he's going to than where he's coming from; politicians know this, and they'd make calculations having that in mind, looking to make bets that guarantee the present (Tinubu), or the present/future (Obi). It doesn't help Atiku that he's faced with a vicious foe in the person of Tinubu who's determined to strip him of his political structure...for a politician that's relied primarily on structure and not personal charisma to navigate the political scence, that's a huge blow.

Atiku and his fans have the odds stacked against them, and they'd do well to come into any negotiation from a place of humility and not arrogance. Guilt-tripping won't work either, the time for that was 2023 and Peter Obi's votes (INEC released) show he ain't Atiku's little nigga no more cheesy...people are ready and will take their chance with Obi alone going into 2027.

I think any ticket with Atiku at the top going into 2027 is not going to fly, but 24 months is a long time in politics, let's watch and see how it goes.

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OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:40pm On May 22
BlueRayDick:


Whatever makes u sleep well at night.

When the time comes Atiku will lose as usual and u will have ur chance to wail about how Obi ers didn't allow him win while turning blind eye to his numerous baggage's. Let him go and chill in Dubai as usual and expect miracle to happen.

And once again I will criticize Tinubu's government and point his mess up out. Anybody wey wan get migrane about that, na their palava be that.

Nobody is sure about this. Atiku/Obi is the closest to Aso villa. But this is the turn of the South. Can you trust AA to do one term?

Well, anything to defeat the calamitous APC is welcome.

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BlueRayDick: 12:46pm On May 22
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


Nobody is sure about this. Atiku/Obi is the closest to Aso villa. But this is the turn of the South. Can you trust AA to do one term?

Well, anything to defeat the calamitous APC is welcome.

Well, that's ur own choice.

My own choice and personal decision is I will not vote any ticket that has Atiku as the flag bearer.

I won't to make the mistake a lot of Nigerians made in 2015 when they voted for Buhari under the guise of "anything to defeat Jonathan/PDP".
BlueRayDick: 12:46pm On May 22
Theflint1:
Atiku is closer to where he's going to than where he's coming from; politicians know this, and they'd make calculations having that in mind, looking to make bets that guarantee the present (Tinubu), or the present/future (Obi). It doesn't help Atiku that he's faced with a vicious foe in the person of Tinubu who's determined to strip him of his political structure...for a politician that's relied primarily on structure and not personal charisma to navigate the political scence, that's a huge blow.

Atiku and his fans have the odds stacked against them, and they'd do well to come into any negotiation from a place of humility and not arrogance. Guilt-tripping won't work either, the time for that was 2023 and Peter Obi's votes (INEC released) show he ain't Atiku's little nigga no more cheesy...people are ready and will take their chance with Obi alone going into 2027.

I think any ticket with Atiku at the top going into 2027 is not going to fly, but 24 months is a long time in politics, let's watch and see how it goes.

Exactly!

Atiku with his political structure intact polled 6.9m and Obi relying on his personal charisma polled 6.1m. Why should Obi kowtow and accept to be Atiku's VP?

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Kimbeast: 12:50pm On May 22
BlueRayDick:


Exactly!

Atiku with his political structure intact polled 6.9m and Obi relying on his personal charisma polled 6.1m. Why should Obi kowtow and accept to be Atiku's VP?
Can Atiku be VP twice? It's looking like he pledges one term before handing over to Obi. That's fair

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BlueRayDick: 12:52pm On May 22
Kimbeast:

Can Atiku be VP twice? It's looking like he pledges one term before handing over to Obi. That's fair

He obviously can't be VP twice.

A lot of southerners will not vote for him when Buhari just finished 8 years not quite long

He should go and rest, there's nothing he want to offer Nigeria at 81 years old. Nigeria's presidency should not be what people see as medium to achieving their life long ambition.

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Fadedvoiced: 12:54pm On May 22
@ibime na jury dey preside over that case and you're right. Irrespective of the evidence Diddy brings, dem go lock am throwaway keys. Public opinion is 95% against him, and with those feminists on his case e don be. You know public outcry always influence jury.
izzou(m): 1:05pm On May 22
Kimbeast:

Can Atiku be VP twice? It's looking like he pledges one term before handing over to Obi. That's fair

If so, the Northern Nigeria would rather give Tinubu another 4 years, and have their 8 years back.

Atiku doing 4, and Obi doing 8 is a bad choice for the North.

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izzou(m): 1:11pm On May 22
BlueRayDick:


Exactly!

Atiku with his political structure intact polled 6.9m and Obi relying on his personal charisma polled 6.1m. Why should Obi kowtow and accept to be Atiku's VP?

grin grin grin grin grin

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Emaprince: 1:19pm On May 22
LordAdam16:


I specifically take issue with #5.
Only gen alphas will opine that VPs can't be powerful in Nigeria.
That's not a foreign concept. It happened before. Idiagbon. Recently with Atiku who Obasanjo had to beg to complete his second term and who scuttled Obasanjo's third team bid.

Also, it is quite interesting that in 2023, you all were adamant that Obi would win when the lack of core Northern votes made him unelectable.
But here you are, 2 years before an election, calling it quits and taking the time to come up with a long list of reasons why a coalition of Atiku and Obi that earned 13 million votes in 2023 does not stand a chance after Tinubu's performance.
How do you consistently make decisions that benefit Tinubu politically but want to gaslight critics with shalaye.

Somehow Obi who could beat Atiku and Tinubu in 2023 cannot tag team with Atiku to beat Tinubu after an ittedly disastrous half term.
Get a grip!
Politicians are defecting. That's your excuse. How many politicians defected to LP in 2021 for Obi to get 6 million votes?
How many politicians did Obi serenade in 2021 to get 6 million votes?
Atiku did have the Northern vote in 2023. Look at the vote tally. Tinubu did not win any KKK state.
That was not a fluke. If you all Tinubu agents hadn't voted for a political terrorist, Atiku will be president today.
And if in 2027, you shun an Atiku/Obi ticket to sit at home or vote Tinubu, accept wholeheartedly that you worked for Tinubu's second term.

We've had excessive wailing on this thread and elsewhere on social media about Tinubu's misgovernance.
You could swear that Tinubu was the worst President in Nigeria's history.
Then you get the opportunity to change things and you--ittedly one of his loudest critics--are coming up with a list of excuses why you will not vote a ticket with Obi on it.

Tinubu is a failure. But you will not vote for an Obi alternative.
I want y'all to go on the record. So we know any Tinubu complaints going forward are theatrics and mental gymnastics.
You cannot call an election 2 years early and forego a rescue ticket and coalition with your savior in it, and you want to play-act as a Tinubu critic.

-Lord
Gaslighting at its peak !!!

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raumdeuter: 1:21pm On May 22
izzou:


If so, the Northern Nigeria would rather give Tinubu another 4 years, and have their 8 years back.

Atiku doing 4, and Obi doing 8 is a bad choice for the North.

Anyone from the south who actually believes that a politician will do 4yrs and leave is being naive

Even in America you saw how Joe Biden despite being very sick still pushed for his 2nd term until it was impossible

Now imagine in Africa a president has enjoyed 4yrs and will willingly leave after 4yrs? The same Africa where presidents wey fit born Atiku are pushing for their 7th term in office

OBJ finished his 8yrs and spent half the yearly budget bribing people to allow him do a 3rd term. Yar Adua, died and still didnt leave power, they preferred his dead body to continue ruling, You come think Atiku one of the most power hungry will do 4yrs and leave

If Atiku wins, he will spend AT LEAST 8yrs(if he does not die on the seat), Obi and any er of Atiku should make peace with that
raumdeuter: 1:24pm On May 22
BlueRayDick:
When they talk about Atiku having northern votes in the bag, one would be wondering if it is the same Atiku that was defeated in his home zone by a southerner or another one. Maybe we should also talk about how Atiku riding on PDP a mega party polled 9k votes in Anambra that has always been a PDP state in the past.

We ask simple question: "What does Atiku bring to the table apart from his Name (which obviously seem to carry less weight like it used to in the past)?", na full textbook we dey read on why Obi and his ers must vote Atiku or be labelled Tinubu closet irer.

Where did Atiku lose the North in the last election? He didnt. If we add the votes in the NE and NW together for the 3 major candidates, Atiku won
BlueRayDick: 1:30pm On May 22
raumdeuter:


Where did Atiku lose the North in the last election? He didnt. If we add the votes in the NE and NW together for the 3 major candidates, Atiku won

North West Tinubu scored more votes than him. In the North Central The 6 states were shared between the 3 candidates and he still had APC dragging North East with him.

Anybody who hear them talking about him having northern votes in the bag will think the whole northern states will vote him in without thinking twice

Make he go warm eba chop abeg.
raumdeuter: 1:32pm On May 22
LordAdam16:


That is your right.

Let me recap.
In 2023, you voted for Obi when he had no chance of winning. Tinubu benefits.
In 2027, you will not vote for an hypothetical Atiku/Obi coalition ticket that Obi personally touts as the best path forward. Tinubu benefits.

It is also my right to tell you both actions taken together make you a closet Tinubu er.
And that your harsh comments about Tinubu's istration should at best be taken with a grain of salt.

Larride has complained about some Tinubu missteps.
Larride will vote for Tinubu in 2027, as is his right.
Larride is a Tinubu er.
Na you dey turn amala say you no be Tinubu er after potentially delivering for Tinubu both times when it mattered.
Talk is cheap. When the rubber meets the road, we all now know you will work for Tinubu directly or indirectly.

-Lord

No need to stress yourself

If Obi agrees to be Atikus VP, 70% of Obidients will follow, they will rationalize and vote that ticket

All they are doing now is shakara, when push come to shove they get to polling station and see Tinubu/Shetima vs Atiku/Obi. They will vote Atiku/Obi

Most of them that voted in 2019 voted the ticket already
LordAdam16: 2:06pm On May 22
raumdeuter:


No need to stress yourself

If Obi agrees to be Atikus VP, 70% of Obidients will follow, they will rationalize and vote that ticket

All they are doing now is shakara, when push come to shove they get to polling station and see Tinubu/Shetima vs Atiku/Obi. They will vote Atiku/Obi

Most of them that voted in 2019 voted the ticket already

If the objective is to unseat an incumbent Tinubu, there is no margin of error.

10 million votes bought at 50K per vote is N500B.
At 100K, it's N1T.
Tinubu will not sweat that bill.

The opposition only stands a chance if they can retain as many of their combined voters from 2023 and peel off disaffected Tinubu voters.
This "VP Obi is undesirable" narrative runs counter to that. It is a thrilling gift for Tinubu.

-Lord

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GloriousGbola: 2:14pm On May 22
LordAdam16:


If the objective is to unseat an incumbent Tinubu, there is no margin of error.

10 million votes bought at 50K per vote is N500B.
At 100K, it's N1T.
Tinubu will not sweat that bill.

The opposition only stands a chance if they can retain as many of their combined voters from 2023 and peel off disaffected Tinubu voters.
This "VP Obi is undesirable" narrative runs counter to that. It is a thrilling gift for Tinubu.

-Lord


in what universe are governors buying votes at 50k per vote?

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LordAdam16: 2:32pm On May 22
GloriousGbola:



in what universe are governors buying votes at 50k per vote?

It's an hypothetical that demonstrates how easily Tinubu can find the votes to run up the score.

-Lord
raumdeuter: 2:32pm On May 22
LordAdam16:


If the objective is to unseat an incumbent Tinubu, there is no margin of error.

10 million votes bought at 50K per vote is N500B.
At 100K, it's N1T.
Tinubu will not sweat that bill.

The opposition only stands a chance if they can retain as many of their combined voters from 2023 and peel off disaffected Tinubu voters.
This "VP Obi is undesirable" narrative runs counter to that. It is a thrilling gift for Tinubu.

-Lord

Inseating an incumbent takes combining all efforts together

The best time was in 2023 when Tinubu was not president, it will be harder in 2027 but not undoable
They need all the rsources, I think this is still initial shakara like when you are toasting a babe

By 2026, you will see most of the Obidients fronting now will become staunch Atiku/Obi posters

Truly the pathway to Aso Rock for Obi might run through Atiku, Just like Tinubu knew his path to Aso rock might have to go through Buhari and swallow all the bad things about Buhari he might not personally like

The key thing for Tinubu now is to find a way to make Obi insist on being the head of the ticket or scatter coalition and run solo like in 2023
Trevor012(m): 2:50pm On May 22
With Atiku rigging powers and money spending plus Obi popularity unseating Tinibu is possible.

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LordAdam16: 3:12pm On May 22
raumdeuter:


Inseating an incumbent takes combining all efforts together

The best time was in 2023 when Tinubu was not president, it will be harder in 2027 but not undoable
They need all the rsources, I think this is still initial shakara like when you are toasting a babe

By 2026, you will see most of the Obidients fronting now will become staunch Atiku/Obi posters

Truly the pathway to Aso Rock for Obi might run through Atiku, Just like Tinubu knew his path to Aso rock might have to go through Buhari and swallow all the bad things about Buhari he might not personally like

The key thing for Tinubu now is to find a way to make Obi insist on being the head of the ticket or scatter coalition and run solo like in 2023

I guess I'm jaded because Obidients have a troubling track record.
Obi was to be a protest ticket in 2023; like the Green ticket in the US. If you wanted to win, you had to pick either Tinubu (continuation) or Atiku (take a different path).
But then we had the Obidient groundswell and the rest is history.

So perhaps, they're been coy. That's probable.
But that narrative is fuel for the not insignificant bloc in the Obidient movement who are Obi maximalists.
They WILL sit out an election with Atiku/Obi on the ballot and encourage others to do the same.

Depending on their efficacy, that could become a real issue that'll potentially sink an Atiku-Obi coalition.
It is a given that Tinubu will exploit the rift.
If by late 2026, there are doubts that the coalition can clear the 10m bar, no astute politico will stake their career on the ticket.
We'll know the result weeks before election day.

-Lord

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seankafor(m): 3:23pm On May 22
Meh this Google veo 3 got AI on another level 🎚️..

Can't even decipher what's real and what's AI
TemporaryHansel: 3:59pm On May 22
raumdeuter:


Inseating an incumbent takes combining all efforts together

The best time was in 2023 when Tinubu was not president, it will be harder in 2027 but not undoable
They need all the rsources, I think this is still initial shakara like when you are toasting a babe

By 2026, you will see most of the Obidients fronting now will become staunch Atiku/Obi posters

Truly the pathway to Aso Rock for Obi might run through Atiku, Just like Tinubu knew his path to Aso rock might have to go through Buhari and swallow all the bad things about Buhari he might not personally like

The key thing for Tinubu now is to find a way to make Obi insist on being the head of the ticket or scatter coalition and run solo like in 2023

It's so simple, really. The Obidients will always be out here playing their emotional politics while the rest of us deal with reality. We scream about how Tinubu’s been wrecking the country, but then when they're handed a golden opportunity to actually boot him from that seat, they just fumble it. Honestly, at this point, calling them pseudo Tinubu ers is generous. Obi running solo in 2023 practically gift-wrapped Tinubu’s victory, and if he pulls the same stunt in 2027, it’s safe to say he's not just a bad candidate – he's a paid agent. Both him and his followers? They’re basically undercover operatives planted by Tinubu to make sure he waltz into the presidency unopposed.

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