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AMKAG66(m): 2:11am On May 21
Just40:
Ghanaians pay 22% vat on most things we buy of course Ghana will be more expensive than Nigeria where you pay just 6%.

🤣😂

This is like going to the US of Singapore with your 2 million naira and crying at how fast it finishes.

It shows that your money has no real value
The point is that Nigeria produces most things it consumes unlike Ghana. Nigeria is way industrialized.
So even with all these inflation, currency devaluation,etc.. goods and services are still cheaper and affordable than in Ghana. I even believed that the Nigerian economy can never crash no matter how bad economic situations are because it’s innately made resilient due to these two factors unlike many other African countries.
Vegetable oil is sold in different sachet sizes and is all over the place. It’s just simple logic that the average person will decide to go for the sachets and smaller containers ones rather than the 25L. The options are just too readily available.

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Just40: 8:05am On May 21
AMKAG66:

The point is that Nigeria produces most things it consumes unlike Ghana. Nigeria is way industrialized.
So even with all these inflation, currency devaluation,etc.. goods and services are still cheaper and affordable than in Ghana. I even believed that the Nigerian economy can never crash no matter how bad economic situations are because it’s innately made resilient due to these two factors unlike many other African countries.
Vegetable oil is sold in different sachet sizes and is all over the place. It’s just simple logic that the average person will decide to go for the sachets and smaller containers ones rather than the 25L. The options are just too readily available.
If we check the ratio of import products to production, it is morr like Ghana produces more of the things it needs compare to Nigeria.

Goods and services will always be cheaper in Nigeria than in Ghana. You don't pay the same taxes as we do.

You guys basically cried blood when VAT of 6% was introduced to your country. Today, if the Ghanaian government chooses to increase VAT from 22% to 30%, most Ghanaians will it.
vaxx: 8:05am On May 21
There are many cooking oil sizes in Ghana too.but people will likely buy the bigger option if there is enough financial capacity
AMKAG66:

The point is that Nigeria produces most things it consumes unlike Ghana. Nigeria is way industrialized.
So even with all these inflation, currency devaluation,etc.. goods and services are still cheaper and affordable than in Ghana. I even believed that the Nigerian economy can never crash no matter how bad economic situations are because it’s innately made resilient due to these two factors unlike many other African countries.
Vegetable oil is sold in different sachet sizes and is all over the place. It’s just simple logic that the average person will decide to go for the sachets and smaller containers ones rather than the 25L. The options are just too readily available.
Mr man, there is nothing Nigeria produces that Ghana is not also doing, even cote d'voire also produce nearly every similar items that is locally produced in Nigeria and Ghana. Gone are the days where industrialization is for only one particular country . It cut across many West African states now.

Goods and service in Nigeria aren't cheaper than Ghana , it only appears so because of the current weak Nigeria purchasing power. Take a look at internet and communication. It is way cheaper to call Nigeria from Ghana than vice versa, more cheaper options to browse and surf the Internet too. That is what everybody can literally relate too easily .

Nigeria economic can indeed crashed if it directly affect crude oil income and production ( A year is enough ).
Just40: 8:09am On May 21
POKUASI2:

You guys have no idea the rate at which hunger the waya them..
Na some of us dey buy food for their compatriots.
It's so bad that they're eating Nigerian food.
A list of the 2400 beggars who were repatriated to their home countries.

We are literally feeding you guys and you still come up here to make noise. Some of you run away from properties you stay in without paying accumulated months of rent owe.

GeneralDae: 8:45am On May 21
Just40:
A list of the 2400 beggars who were repatriated to their home countries.

We are literally feeding you guys and you still come up here to make noise. Some of you run away from properties you stay in without paying accumulated months of rent owe.
138 Nigerians as a proportion of the Nigerian population is very small actually. Just disband them. We have hundreds of thousands of people from Niger Republic all over Nigeria begging. From the North to the South.
Makoko our biggest slum is filled with people from Benin republic and Togo.

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GeneralDae: 8:50am On May 21
vaxx:
There are many cooking oil sizes in Ghana too.but people will likely buy the bigger option if there is enough financial capacity Mr man, there is nothing Nigeria produces that Ghana is not also doing, even cote d'voire also produce nearly every similar items that is locally produced in Nigeria and Ghana. Gone are the days where industrialization is for only one particular country . It cut across many West African states now.

Goods and service in Nigeria aren't cheaper than Ghana , it only appears so because of the current weak Nigeria purchasing power. Take a look at internet and communication. It is way cheaper to call Nigeria from Ghana than vice versa, more cheaper options to browse and surf the Internet too. That is what everybody can literally relate too easily .

Nigeria economic can indeed crashed if it directly affect crude oil income and production ( A year is enough ).
Apart from Cocoa (which Ghana is second largest producer of), tell me anything else (in agriculture) Ghana produces the most in Subsaharan Africa or West Africa.

Nigeria and expectedly so is one of the biggest producer of almost every agricultural product you can think of from palm oil to rice to tomatoes to Ginger to sesame to maize, soybean, onions, etc. Nigeria is always either largest producer or at least one of the largest.

This is not the case with Ghana, Ivorycoast or West Africa in general and this is understandable because of your smaller populations.

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vaxx: 9:54am On May 21
GeneralDae:

Apart from Cocoa (which Ghana is second largest producer of), tell me anything else (in agriculture) Ghana produces the most in Subsaharan Africa or West Africa.

Nigeria and expectedly so is one of the biggest producer of almost every agricultural product you can think of from palm oil to rice to tomatoes to Ginger to sesame to maize, soybean, onions, etc. Nigeria is always either largest producer or at least one of the largest.

This is not the case with Ghana, Ivorycoast or West Africa in general and this is understandable because of your smaller populations.
You are not abreast with fact. Ghana is the largest coconut producer in Africa . ( The major ingredient in most of your localized home or beauty cosmetics products. , the largest in West Africa when it comes to exporting of shear butter and yam. Also notable with plantain and cassava . The few I can for now .

When it comes to agriculture products, population and land size sometimes aren't a factor but technology ( Israel is a typical example of this fact) anyway I agree 9ja produce Large crops and legumes due to the large land size of fertiled land.
GeneralDae: 10:00am On May 21
vaxx:
You are not abreast with fact. Ghana is the largest coconut producer in Africa . ( The major ingredient in most of your localized home or beauty cosmetics products. , the largest in West Africa when it comes to exporting of shear butter and yam. Also notable with plantain and cassava . The few I can for now .

When it comes to agriculture products, population and land size sometimes aren't a factor but technology ( Israel is a typical example of this fact) anyway I agree produce Large crops and legumes due to the large land size of fertiled land.
Ghana is not the largest producer of coconut in Africa, that is Tanzania. Nigeria is by far largest producer of Shea Butter and Yam. Nigeria has a huge market already for many things so we do not export as much plus of course bureaucracy.

For Shea Butter, Nigeria is the world’s largest producer and exporter (Ghana is not the largest exporter).

For yam especially, there was a decree by the Babangida military istration in 1989 banning the exports of Yam but Nigeria is by far the largest yam producer in the world.

Give me something similar or close to this list for Ghana in 2022.

“In 2022, Nigeria produced:
59.6 million tons of cassava (the largest producer in the world). Nigeria s for up to 20% of the world's cassava production, about 34 per cent of Africa's, and about 46% of West Africa's;[3]
47.5 million tons of yam (the largest producer in the world);[35]
3.3 million tons of taro (the largest producer in the world);[36]
2.6 million tons of cowpea (the largest producer in the world);[37]
6.8 million tons of sorghum (the largest producer in the world);[38][39]
2 million tons of okra (2nd largest producer in the world, second only to India);[40]
2.8 million tons of peanut (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and India);
4 million tons of sweet potato (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and Malawi);
369 thousand tons of ginger (3rd largest producer in the world, losing only to India and China);
2.2 million tons of millet (4th largest producer in the world, second only to India, Niger, and Sudan);
7.8 million tons of palm oil (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand);
572 thousand tons of sesame seed (4th largest producer in the world, losing only to Sudan, Myanmar, and India);
332 thousand tons of cocoa (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Ivory Coast, Ghana, and Indonesia);
3 million tons of plantain (5th largest producer in the world);
833 thousand tons of papaya (6th largest producer in the world);
1.6 million tons of pineapple (7th largest producer in the world);
3.9 million tons of tomato (11th largest producer in the world);
6.8 million tons of rice (one of the largest producers of rice in Africa,[3] 14th largest producer in the world);
10.1 million tons of maize (14th largest producer in the world);
7.5 million tons of vegetables;
1.4 million tons of sugarcane;
1.3 million tons of potato;
949 thousand tons of mango (including mangosteen and guava);
938 thousand tons of onion;
758 thousand tons of soy;
747 thousand tons of green pepper;
585 thousand tons of egusi;
263 thousand tons of sheanut;
150 thousand tons of coconut.
In addition to smaller productions of other agricultural products,[41] Nigeria produced about 2.2 million metric tons of fish in 2008”
vaxx: 11:44am On May 21
Update yourself with fact. Ghana is the current largest coconut producer in Africa
not Tanzania.

https://africaviewfacts.com/stats/top-coconut-producers-in-africa/#:~:text=1.,suitable%20environment%20for%20coconut%20cultivation.

GeneralDae:

Ghana is not the largest producer of coconut in Africa, that is Tanzania. Nigeria is by far largest producer of Shea Butter and Yam. Nigeria has a huge market already for many things so we do not export as much plus of course bureaucracy.

For Shea Butter, Nigeria is the world’s largest producer and exporter (Ghana is not the largest exporter).

For yam especially, there was a decree by the Babangida military istration in 1989 banning the exports of Yam but Nigeria is by far the largest yam producer in the world.

Give me something similar or close to this list for Ghana in 2022.

“In 2022, Nigeria produced:
59.6 million tons of cassava (the largest producer in the world). Nigeria s for up to 20% of the world's cassava production, about 34 per cent of Africa's, and about 46% of West Africa's;[3]
47.5 million tons of yam (the largest producer in the world);[35]
3.3 million tons of taro (the largest producer in the world);[36]
2.6 million tons of cowpea (the largest producer in the world);[37]
6.8 million tons of sorghum (the largest producer in the world);[38][39]
2 million tons of okra (2nd largest producer in the world, second only to India);[40]
2.8 million tons of peanut (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and India);
4 million tons of sweet potato (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and Malawi);
369 thousand tons of ginger (3rd largest producer in the world, losing only to India and China);
2.2 million tons of millet (4th largest producer in the world, second only to India, Niger, and Sudan);
7.8 million tons of palm oil (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand);
572 thousand tons of sesame seed (4th largest producer in the world, losing only to Sudan, Myanmar, and India);
332 thousand tons of cocoa (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Ivory Coast, Ghana, and Indonesia);
3 million tons of plantain (5th largest producer in the world);
833 thousand tons of papaya (6th largest producer in the world);
1.6 million tons of pineapple (7th largest producer in the world);
3.9 million tons of tomato (11th largest producer in the world);
6.8 million tons of rice (one of the largest producers of rice in Africa,[3] 14th largest producer in the world);
10.1 million tons of maize (14th largest producer in the world);
7.5 million tons of vegetables;
1.4 million tons of sugarcane;
1.3 million tons of potato;
949 thousand tons of mango (including mangosteen and guava);
938 thousand tons of onion;
758 thousand tons of soy;
747 thousand tons of green pepper;
585 thousand tons of egusi;
263 thousand tons of sheanut;
150 thousand tons of coconut.
In addition to smaller productions of other agricultural products,[41] Nigeria produced about 2.2 million metric tons of fish in 2008”
Ghana export more shear butter and yam than Nigeria. This are few mistakes from your long mistakes I can identify for now .... fact checked me.


Based on land size. Ghana is a significant player in any of the product you listed there. Be it soybeans or palm oil


Infact Ghana export timber Wood to Nigeria since Ghana produce more than what can be used here.
chrisooblog: 12:12pm On May 21
https://businessday.ng/businessday-investigation/article/nigerias-shea-butter-production-hard-work-for-smooth-skin/#google_vignette

vaxx:
Update yourself with fact. Ghana is the current largest coconut producer in Africa
not Tanzania.

https://africaviewfacts.com/stats/top-coconut-producers-in-africa/#:~:text=1.,suitable%20environment%20for%20coconut%20cultivation.

Ghana export more shear butter and yam than Nigeria. This are few mistakes from longis mistakes I can identify for now ....

vaxx: 12:17pm On May 21
chrisooblog:
https://businessday.ng/businessday-investigation/article/nigerias-shea-butter-production-hard-work-for-smooth-skin/#google_vignette

But I didn't say anything' more. Nigeria produces more but Ghana earn more foreign exchange on it than Nigeria including yam.

But Ghana produces more coconut and cocoa than Nigeria . Established fact.
chrisooblog: 12:18pm On May 21

vaxx: 12:35pm On May 21
theenchanter: 12:54pm On May 21
vaxx:
fact check, Ghana produce more plantain than Nigeria
calm down, don't blow urself out.

I know Nigeria is ur paramount headache but u were asked to mention agricultural products produced in Ghana as the largest producer in W. Africa or SS. Africa.

Everything is not diccc measurement.😂
vaxx: 1:00pm On May 21
theenchanter:
calm down, don't blow urself out.

I know Nigeria is ur paramount headache but u were asked to mention agricultural products produced in Ghana as the largest producer in W. Africa or SS. Africa.

Everything is not diccc measurement.😂
Ogbeni, anything no be dick measurements at least, Ghana produces coconut , plantain more than any West African state.

They are more, You can do the research for yourself
.
theenchanter: 1:02pm On May 21
vaxx:
Ogbeni, anything no be dick measurements at least, Ghana produces coconut , plantain more than any West African state.

They are more, You can do the research for yourself
.
now, u're talking.

tell me about SS Africa. We learn everyday.
vaxx: 1:05pm On May 21
theenchanter:
now, u're talking.

tell me about SS Africa. We learn everyday.
At least Ghana produces more coconut than any African state .
theenchanter: 1:07pm On May 21
vaxx:
At least Ghana produces more coconut than any African state .
ok. Thanks.
Just40: 3:08pm On May 21
GeneralDae:

138 Nigerians as a proportion of the Nigerian population is very small actually. Just disband them. We have hundreds of thousands of people from Niger Republic all over Nigeria begging. From the North to the South.
Makoko our biggest slum is filled with people from Benin republic and Togo.
Yeah.....not an attempt to be malicious towards your country. Just a response to the poor guy who can't even pay his rent and has to go and live way out of town where rent may be affordable a bit, who is trying to play big guy.
He should find those Nigerian beggars and feed them.
chrisooblog: 3:34pm On May 21
but you're not the top continental producer unlike Nigeria for so many crops.

vaxx:
fact check, Ghana produce more plantain than Nigeria
vaxx: 3:44pm On May 21
chrisooblog:
but you're not the top continental producer unlike Nigeria for so many crops.

sure but we are a significant contributor in Africa agricultural market despite the land size and population.

Ghana even produce more cashew than Nigeria
Just40: 5:57pm On May 21
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Just40: 7:33pm On May 21
Without Ghana, there would be no MTN. Don’t let anyone deceive you; even Ghana, with a smaller population in Africa, is one of the top two countries MTN generates its profits from. Let’s analyze the data from 2018 to 2022.

These are after Tax!

2018

Nigeria (NGN)₦145,685,901,000 ~$405 M (est.)≈14.0% (14.0%)
Ghana (GHS)GH₵754,676,000 ~$164 M (est.)≈18.0%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2019

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦202,110,974,000 ~$561 M (est.)≈17.3%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵1,007,958,000

2020 (FY2020 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦205,210,974,000 ~$533 M (est.)≈15.2%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵1,394,895,000 ~$249 M (est.)≈23.3%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2021 (FY2021 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦298,654,032,000 ~$728 M (est.)≈18.0%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵2,001,000,000 ~$339 M (est.)≈25.9%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2022 (FY2022 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦358,892,894,000 ~$864 M (est.)≈17.8%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵2,856,000,000 ~$391 M (est.)≈28.8%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

(2023 data: MTN Nigeria posted a ₦137.0 bn loss (after tax) , so Ghana and other markets likely dominated profit in 2023.

So even though Nigeria gives MTN the highest total profit, Ghana gives them a much higher profit per or citizen — about 3× more per capita.

This shows MTN earns significantly more per customer in Ghana, making Ghana its most efficient and high-yield market relative to population size. All thanks to these greedy leaders who they are in bed with them.
ProblemChild1: 12:05am On May 22
GeneralDae:

138 Nigerians as a proportion of the Nigerian population is very small actually. Just disband them. We have hundreds of thousands of people from Niger Republic all over Nigeria begging. From the North to the South.
Makoko our biggest slum is filled with people from Benin republic and Togo.
Including Ghanaians too.

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vaxx: 7:08am On May 22
ProblemChild1:
Including Ghanaians too.
Ghanaian begging in Nigeria? Do you think it is 1960s even then, Ghanaian are rather working instead of doing ridiculous jobs.

Some Ghanaian still collect pension areas in far away northern Nigeria where there is shortage of skillful workers in the govt jobs ( teaching, etc
GeneralDae: 8:22am On May 22
Just40:
Without Ghana, there would be no MTN. Don’t let anyone deceive you; even Ghana, with a smaller population in Africa, is one of the top two countries MTN generates its profits from. Let’s analyze the data from 2018 to 2022.

These are after Tax!

2018

Nigeria (NGN)₦145,685,901,000 ~$405 M (est.)≈14.0% (14.0%)
Ghana (GHS)GH₵754,676,000 ~$164 M (est.)≈18.0%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2019

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦202,110,974,000 ~$561 M (est.)≈17.3%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵1,007,958,000

2020 (FY2020 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦205,210,974,000 ~$533 M (est.)≈15.2%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵1,394,895,000 ~$249 M (est.)≈23.3%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2021 (FY2021 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦298,654,032,000 ~$728 M (est.)≈18.0%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵2,001,000,000 ~$339 M (est.)≈25.9%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

2022 (FY2022 profits)

CountryProfit (Local)Profit (USD)Profit Margin
Nigeria (NGN)₦358,892,894,000 ~$864 M (est.)≈17.8%
Ghana (GHS)GH₵2,856,000,000 ~$391 M (est.)≈28.8%
Top ranks: 1. Nigeria, 2. Ghana

(2023 data: MTN Nigeria posted a ₦137.0 bn loss (after tax) , so Ghana and other markets likely dominated profit in 2023.

So even though Nigeria gives MTN the highest total profit, Ghana gives them a much higher profit per or citizen — about 3× more per capita.

This shows MTN earns significantly more per customer in Ghana, making Ghana its most efficient and high-yield market relative to population size. All thanks to these greedy leaders who they are in bed with them.
MTN is a monopoly in Ghana especially with the mobile payment there which worked. They couldn’t dominate with mobile payments in Nigeria amongst the middle class and rich because the middle class/ rich already had several fintech options. MTN have also been closely matched by Airtel and Glo all through their history in Nigeria and are now more closely marked by Airtel.
vaxx: 9:39am On May 22
GeneralDae:

MTN is a monopoly in Ghana especially with the mobile payment there which worked. They couldn’t dominate with mobile payments in Nigeria amongst the middle class and rich because the middle class/ rich already had several fintech options. MTN have also been closely matched by Airtel and Glo all through their history in Nigeria and are now more closely marked by Airtel.
MTn is not a monopoly in GH. They are other known contenders like telecel and airtel with strong customers base of about 45 percent market share or more . Though MTN Ghana has about 50 percent or more market share.

They are too many reasons mobile money payment is not successful in Nigeria like Ghana and Kenya , although there is a progress now but not as effective as that of GH and Kenya.

When it comes to fintech , give the Golden chain to GH and Kenya .

GeneralDae: 9:58am On May 22
vaxx:
MTn is not a monopoly in GH. They are other known contenders like telecel and airtel with strong customers base of about 45 percent market share or more . Though MTN Ghana has about 50 percent or more market share.

They are too many reasons mobile money payment is not successful in Nigeria like Ghana and Kenya , although there is a progress now but not as effective as that of GH and Kenya.

When it comes to fintech , give the Golden chain to GH and Kenya .
Lol. Your arguments are usually funny to me. You are the type that argues that white is black even when you see it clearly that it is white.
You are saying Ghana is a bigger fintech player than a country that hosts the likes of Flutterwave, Opay, Paga, Palmpay, Moniepoint, etc.
Only Kenyan Mpesa (which is a monopoly) can rub shoulders with any of these.
Stop smoking early in the morning 🤣
POKUASI2: 10:17am On May 22
[quote author=Just40 post=135447940] A list of the 2400 beggars who were repatriated to their home countries.

We are literally feeding you guys and you still come up here to make noise. Some of you run away from properties you stay in without paying accumulated months of rent owe.[/quote
God have mercy..
Here you have it ladies and gentlemen! 58 IQ index of the Ghanaian.
So this grown fool doesn't know that a person from Niger republic whose capital is NAIMEY is addressed as Nigerien!!!
theenchanter: 10:24am On May 22
GeneralDae:

Lol. Your arguments are usually funny to me. You are the type that argues that white is black even when you see it clearly that it is white.
You are saying Ghana is a bigger fintech player than a country that hosts the likes of Flutterwave, Opay, Paga, Palmpay, Moniepoint, etc.
Only Kenyan Mpesa (which is a monopoly) can rub shoulders with any of these.
Stop smoking early in the morning 🤣
😂😂😂
GeneralDae: 10:56am On May 22
theenchanter:
😂😂😂
It’s crazy 😊😆

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