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Many assume Satan was once an angel, but the Bible never explicitly states this. While popular tradition teaches that he is a fallen angel, Scripture only implies it indirectly—never with clear, direct language.

1. No Verse really Calls Satan an Angel
The Bible mentions angels thousands of times and Satan dozens of times, yet nowhere does it say, "Satan was an angel." Even in Revelation 12:7-9, where Satan leads rebellious angels, he is called a "dragon" and "devil"—not an angel.

2. Ezekiel 28’s "Cherub" is Symbolic
Ezekiel 28 describes a glorious "guardian cherub" who fell, but this is directed at the “human king” (v. 12). Linking it to Satan is traditional, not a direct biblical statement.

3. Isaiah 14’s "Morning Star" Refers to a King
Isaiah 14:12-15 speaks of a proud ruler (the king of Babylon) cast down—not Satan. The name "Lucifer" comes from Latin translation, not the original Hebrew.

4. Fallen Angels ≠ Satan
Jude 1:6 and 2 Peter 2:4 mention angels who sinned, but Satan is never included in those groups.
Conclusion: Tradition, Not Scripture
The belief that Satan was an angel comes from later theology, not the Bible itself. Scripture describes Satan as an adversary, tempter, and ruler of this world—but never as a fallen angel.
If we continue to believe Satan is an angel, the Bible simply doesn’t it.

The notion of Satan and demons as fallen angels was fabricated by those in the religious circles— the doctrines and traditions of men; they are responsible for propagation that myth for hundreds of years.

oridavid:
Many assume Satan was once an angel, but the Bible never explicitly states this. While popular tradition teaches that he is a fallen angel, Scripture only implies it indirectly—never with clear, direct language.

1. No Verse really Calls Satan an Angel
The Bible mentions angels thousands of times and Satan dozens of times, yet nowhere does it say, "Satan was an angel." Even in Revelation 12:7-9, where Satan leads rebellious angels, he is called a "dragon" and "devil"—not an angel.

2. Ezekiel 28’s "Cherub" is Symbolic
Ezekiel 28 describes a glorious "guardian cherub" who fell, but this is directed at the “human king” (v. 12). Linking it to Satan is traditional, not a direct biblical statement.

3. Isaiah 14’s "Morning Star" Refers to a King
Isaiah 14:12-15 speaks of a proud ruler (the king of Babylon) cast down—not Satan. The name "Lucifer" comes from Latin translation, not the original Hebrew.

4. Fallen Angels ≠ Satan
Jude 1:6 and 2 Peter 2:4 mention angels who sinned, but Satan is never included in those groups.
Conclusion: Tradition, Not Scripture
The belief that Satan was an angel comes from later theology, not the Bible itself. Scripture describes Satan as an adversary, tempter, and ruler of this world—but never as a fallen angel.
If we continue to believe Satan is an angel, the Bible simply doesn’t it.

Luke 10:18 KJV And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.[b][/b]

The above verse talks about Satan falling from heaven where he was an angel.

All you need to know is that Jesus is Lord; obey and serve Him. You really do not have anything to profit from trying to decipher the etymology of a spirit.

Jesus is Lord!

kppo:
➜Luke 10:18 KJV And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
The above verse talks about Satan falling from heaven where he was an angel.

This conclusion of yours is according to?

Kobojunkie:
This conclusion of yours is according to?

According to the bible that tells us that heaven is where angels are.

It may look like that but that's not the case, dear friend.

The verse doesn't have anything like angel in it.

Also, the verse doesn't say how Jesus saw Satan fall, whether before he came to earth or seen in a vision as something to happen later. However, John, in revelation, tells us that Satan fell after Jesus rose to Heaven. And Even so, John didn't say Satan is an angel. This was just a traditional beliefs that has wriggled its way into modern religions.

kppo:


Luke 10:18 KJV And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.[b][/b]

The above verse talks about Satan falling from heaven where he was an angel.

kppo:
➜According to the bible that tells us that heaven is where angels are.

You are not making any sense, though

The verse you quoted simply says Jesus Christ of Israel saw Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
⚉ It does not say that Satan was/is an angel,
⚉ nor does it say that angels alone can come from Heaven.

And the statement could also have been a figure of speech for something else. We know technically lightning does fall from heaven. So, comparing Satan's fall as being similar to — simile — lightning falling from Heaven is not far from a possible reasoning of what Jesus Christ said.

Also, Jesus Christ of Israel came from Heaven, yet He is not described as an angel. So, again, where does this conclusion of yours come from?

That's reasonable.

However, one of the reasons Satan could have fallen was because he was in a place meant for angel - that is, he wasn't an angel but went to a place meant for angels and that made it quite easy for him to be defeated.

Recall, Isaiah said Satan will ascend into heaven. It's a man that ascends into heaven. Just like Jesus, a man, ascended into heaven.

kppo:


According to the bible that tells us that heaven is where angels are.

Who are those God called the "Morning Stars" in the Bible book of Job 38:7?

The question should be did is anything in the Bible real

Arda1000:

The question should be did is anything in the Bible real

Simple answer: YES!

Did they say Satan is one of those people in the book of Job? I think the context of what we see in the book of Job is that the morning stars gathered and Satan (not necessarily a morning Star) ed them.

MaxInDHouse:
Who are those God called the "Morning Stars" in the Bible book of Job 38:7?

oridavid:
Did they say Satan is one of those people in the book of Job? I think the context of what we see in the book of Job is that the morning stars gathered and Satan (not necessarily a morning Star) ed them.

Well Satan is one of the morning stars the word translated to Lucifer could also mean shinning morning star. Isaiah 14:12

Check the King James Version and other Versions to confirm.

Thanks!

oridavid:
Did they say Satan is one of those people in the book of Job? I think the context of what we see in the book of Job is that the morning stars gathered and Satan (not necessarily a morning Star) ed them.

There is no reference in that entire book indicating that Satan is some morning star. Instead, the term bright morning star is used about the person of Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation.

MaxInDHouse:

Simple answer: YES!

lolz yess with no evidence

Arda1000:
lolz yess with no evidence

Evidence is everywhere but if you choose not to see it that's your cup of coffee!

I did, no it doesn't and the word translated as Lucifer were not actually "word" but a phrasal description of an individual. That individual was described as the son of the beginning indicating that Satan was a son of God so as Adam and Jesus so I don't know where you got this idea of Satan being an angel. Are you also saying Adam is an angel because the bible calls him son of God?

MaxInDHouse:


Well Satan is one of the morning stars the word translated to Lucifer could also mean shinning morning star. Isaiah 14:12

Check the King James Version and other Versions to confirm.

Thanks!

Maximus692:

Evidence is everywhere but if you choose not to see it that's your cup of coffee!

show me,If they are everywhere that should be easy for u

oridavid:
I did, no it doesn't and the word translated as Lucifer were not actually "word" but a phrasal description of an individual. That individual was described as the son of the beginning indicating that Satan was a son of God so as Adam and Jesus so I don't know where you got this idea of Satan being an angel. Are you also saying Adam is an angel because the bible calls him son of God?

Well this is what different translation say about Lucifer!

This is Isaiah 14:12

How you have fallen from heaven, O shining one, son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth, You who vanquished nations! NWT (JW Bible)

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How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! NIV‬


How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! KJV

Arda1000:
show me,If they are everywhere that should be easy for u

Out of all the creatures on this planet do you have any other that's making things better and making better things except humans?

The Bible said God created human in His likeness which means they were created to be Creators. Genesis 1:26

Do you see this all around you?

I hope you can see that non of these translation say Satan is an angel. The NIV calls him the morning star because of the bias that he's an angel but the JW and KJV don't hold such bias. To be precise, the bible calls him son of morning, in reference to Venus because Venus rises in the morning and falls in the evening. The proverb is more focused on Satan's fall from glory rather than the assumption that he's an angel.

But I do understand why you would say that though, I just wanted you to see that the Bible does not really hold such a sentiment.

MaxInDHouse:


Well this is what different translation say about Lucifer!

This is Isaiah 14:12

How you have fallen from heaven, O shining one, son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth, You who vanquished nations! NWT (JW Bible)

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How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! NIV‬


How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! KJV

oridavid:
I hope you can see that non of these translation say Satan is an angel. The NIV calls him the morning star because of the bias that he's an angel but the JW and KJV don't hold such bias. To be precise, the bible calls him son of morning, in reference to Venus because Venus rises in the morning and falls in the evening. The proverb is more focused on Satan's fall from glory rather than the assumption that he's an angel.

But I do understand why you would say that though, I just wanted you to see that the Bible does not really hold such a sentiment.

It's OK!