NewStats: 3,261,346 , 8,173,736 topics. Date: Wednesday, 28 May 2025 at 09:59 PM 4f2y6f

AirBere:


Of course it's between both.

Did you read where I said Osi will be extremely lucky to finish third? That's where I feel they may give the third position to one of Lookman or Gurisay as they did well in the top 5 league.

Yeah you are right ,Victor will be lucky to finish 3rd

Make e do commot for that dirty league abeg

airmark:


Successful dribbles have nothing to do with where the next touch ends.

Hazard completely dusts Salah in dribbles, it's not even up for argument. So saying Salah edges Hazard in everything, is invalid.

If u mean dribbling for entertainment sake , then definitely Hazard has that over Salah .

andrewbaba44:


Na just entertainment hazard get salah and that’s nothing ,even st maximin Dey entertaining

Salah is the better player

Exactly . That’s why I said Salah and Neymar are similar in that regard

BlueRayDick:


If u mean dribbling for entertainment sake , then definitely Hazard has that over Salah .

I his dribbles from central circle against your team that resulted in one of the best solo goals in Epl. He dribbled to score against all the the top teams in England before he left. If your team had such player that could unlock low block and create scoring chances consistently, you would have won Epl since.

airmark:


I his dribbles from central circle against your team that resulted in one of the best solo goals in Epl. He dribbled to score against all the the top teams in England before he left. If your team have such player, you would have won Epl since.

Sometimes abi most of the times sef, u will just leave the matter being discussed and go off tangent hoping to score some nonexistent points.

What's the relevance of Hazard dribbling and scoring against Arsenal in a one-off situation to this discussion now?

Season in season out, Sallah would face top defenders, take them on in 1v1 situation and end up either scoring or creating assist for his team. It's not a one-off thing; there are several of such clips spanning his time at Loserpool till date. The Hazard u are trying to defend has confessed with own mouth that he prefers to enjoy football (which buttressed the point I made earlier that he focuses on dribbling for purely entertainment reasons), rather than putting the ball at the back of the net(which is the ultimate goal of an attacker/forward player)

What do u think u would achieve pointing out that Hazard solo goal Vs Arsenal? Do u think it will get me vexed or what exactly ?

One thing I know u cannot claim is that Sallah can't dribble.

BlueRayDick:


Sometimes abi most of the times sef, u will just leave the matter being discussed and go off tangent hoping to score some nonexistent points.

What's the relevance of Hazard dribbling and scoring against Arsenal in a one-off situation to this discussion now?

Season in season out, Sallah would face top defenders, take them on in 1v1 situation and end up either scoring or creating assist for his team. It's not a one-off thing; there are several of such clips spanning his time at Loserpool till date. The Hazard u are trying to defend has confessed with own mouth that he prefers to enjoying football (which buttressed the point I made earlier that he focuses on dribbling for purely entertainment reasons)

What do u think u would achieve pointing out that Hazard solo goal Vs Arsenal? Do u think it will get me vexed or what exactly ?

One thing I know u cannot claim is that Sallah can't dribble.

The point is the ignorant agenda that most of you always drive home that he did shakushaku always with the ball when even in his last season with Chelsea he had 30+ G/A and nearly every season he created most of Chelsea's big chances.

There's nothing like dribbling for entertainment and dribbling for non-entertainment. You are the one manufacturing that and it's not issible in any football stats in rating wingers. Successful dribbles, like i pointed out earlier have nothing to do with where the next touch goes and that's a fact you must not argue against.

My point is clear, Salah doesn't edge Hazard in dribbles. You may even consult your most reliable AI what a successful dribble means and who the better dribbler is, and drop your ignorant belief.

MorataFC:
La Liga have moved Real Betis last game of the season to this Friday to allow them to prepare for the Conference League.

Hmm, EPL will never do that.

No be because of Europa Spurs and Man Utd play last Friday

BlueRayDick:
Even flair sef, Sallah is more effective in the sense that in 1v1 situation , he would most likely beat his man and complete the sequence of play with good end product almost all the time.

You are right that Hazard and Neymar are similar in sense that they just like to dribble even when the occasion doesn't call for it; but Sallah is similar to Messi (Tho levels below the god of soccer) such that he is also heavily invested in purposeful dribble/skills. He deletes his marker in 1v1 situation and hangs the ball into the net

Major difference
Neymar with significantly more output than Hazard

airmark:


The point is the ignorant agenda that most of you always drive home that he did shakushaku always with the ball when even in his last season with Chelsea he had 30+ G/A and nearly every season he created most of Chelsea's big chances.

There's nothing like dribbling for entertainment and dribbling for non-entertainment. You are the one manufacturing that and it's not issible in any football stats in rating wingers. Successful dribbles, like i pointed out earlier have nothing to do with where the next touch goes and that's a fact you must not argue against.

My point is clear, Salah doesn't edge Hazard in dribbles. You may even consult your most reliable AI what a successful dribble means and who the better dribbler is, and drop your ignorant belief.

Maybe u should go back to read my post u quoted initially. Nobody claimed Hazard doesn't dribble but does his dribbles always end with a positive end product as much as Sallah's ? Definitely not. You know this, I know this and we all know this.

But somehow u want to force me into an argument I'm not having with u. The fact that u branded what Hazard does as shakushaku without me mentioning same shows u actually agree with my point but pride would make u introduce a totally different argument into the discussion.

I say it again that Sallah edges Hazard when it comes to purposeful dribbles which either ends in goals, assists and big chances created. If u are impressed with unnecesary dribbles , good for U; I am not.

airmark:
Na them be this, enemy of progress. Now, they are saying they were never against g Osimhen or Gyokeres as their jakujaku Jackson's replacement.



How much is Kane with Lewandowski and Haaland collecting as wages? You no kuku get sense.

How does this post in any way endorse Jackson better than osimhen?

zeusis:

Their 2 main strikers are both on Double digits in goals
Say something else

But you wanted to smuggle 4-5 strikers as one of the reason why they have a competitive squad?. I moved swiftly to expose the lie.

raumdeuter:

Major difference
Neymar with significantly more output than Hazard

Yeah, Neyamar and Hazard have similar style of play just that their output is the difference that sets them apart.

Sallah is more of a Messi type who wants to dribble u as quick as possible either to score or create chance for his team. No time to check time.

Ibime:


Barely more goals in a backwater league, much less assists

barely more goals and barely more trophies are still more goals and more trophies.

andrewbaba44:


Multiple trophies in Portugal no too get level like that against someone who is the best player in Madrid

There is no way osimhen will use the Turkish league title Turkish cup and their golden boot to win apoty over salah who won the epl

Salah wey be ballon d or candidate na him you think say no go win apoty ?

You didn't answer the question. If an award is between Gyokeres and Mbappé, you will go and give it to Mbappe, abi?

By the way, this is APOTY, and the winner doesn't even have to play in the top 5 leagues in Europe. We have had multiple APOTY winners who didn't even play in Europe in the past.

Osimhen has more goals and more trophies than Salah in their various local leagues this season. The only thing that could have increased their pedigree is the UCL, in which neither of them did anything spectacular.

Unless Liverpool somehow wins the Club World Cup (which they are not even going to feature in), then it's Osimhen.

Ballon d'Or candidate kwa? Lmao. Because some Liverpool fans and Egyptians are pushing it? He will be lucky to be in the top 10, self.

BlueRayDick:


Maybe u should go back to read my post u quoted initially. Nobody claimed Hazard doesn't dribble but does his dribbles always end with a positive end product as much as Sallah's ? Definitely not. You know this, I know this and we all know this.

But somehow u want to force me into an argument I'm not having with u. The fact that u branded what Hazard does as shakushaku without me mentioning same shows u actually agree with my point but pride would make u introduce a totally different argument into the discussion.

I say it again that Sallah edges Hazard when it comes to purposeful dribbles which either ends in goals, assists and big chances created. If u are impressed with unnecesary dribbles , good for U; I am not.

Below is your post i reacted to. Emphasy on everything.

BlueRayDick:


Na everything Sallah use Hazard.

Now, let's dive into technical skills that they use to rate wingers, in which successful dribbles is essentially one (you may check online to confirm). This is the standard and it's only your decision to now categorize it into dribbling for entertainment, and dribbling for non-entertainment. That's a strange metric you manufactured and unfortunately not the standard.

From North London to Osapa London, Hazard Salah in successful dribbles (which is one of the standard technical metrics used in evaluating a winger). So this post below remains invalid, professionally.

BlueRayDick:


Na everything Sallah use Hazard.

you can't force an Arsenal fan to like Chelsea players , especially after wetin we use their eyes see over the past decade, you can't just forget the PTSD easily, same reason them no rate Drogba. Preferring Salah to Hazard in every metric is questionable, and comparing Salah's dribbling style to Messi's is diabolical lol.

lordfalcao:


How does this post in any way endorse Jackson better than osimhen?

lordfalcao:
we don't need osimhen.

Singapore1:
you can't force an Arsenal fan to like Chelsea players , especially after wetin we use their eyes see over the past decade, you can't just forget the PTSD easily, same reason them no rate Drogba. Preferring Salah to Hazard in every metric is questionable, and comparing Salah's dribbling style to Messi's is diabolical lol.

So Sallah didn't score against Arsenal ba?

Omo! Sometimes the way some of u dey reason these things lasan, I don't even even know what to make of it. Funny thing is Sallah even scored more solo goals against Arsenal than Hazard.

The truth is only a Chelsea fan will want to pick a bettter forward player between Sallah and Hazar d and go ahaed to choose Hazard for obvious reasons.For football fans who neither Chelsea nor Loserpool, the obvious choice will definitely be Sallah. It's a no brainer.

And if u read my post and u conclude I am comparing Sallah with Messi, then I really don't know what to tell u.

lordfalcao:


But you wanted to smuggle 4-5 strikers as one of the reason why they have a competitive squad?. I moved swiftly to expose the lie.

Which kind off-putting talk be this. They have a competitive edge because they have more firepower than every other team in the league
Where is the lie in that?

BlueRayDick:


Yeah, Neyamar and Hazard have similar style of play just that their output is the difference that sets them apart.

Sallah is more of a Messi type who wants to dribble u as quick as possible either to score or create chance for his team. No time to check time.

I never really saw them as similar. Hazard dribbling style is very basic. Neymar is the real entertainer of the two while also being more productive and accomplished.

NinjaMetahuman:
You didn't answer the question. If an award is between Gyokeres and Mbappé, you will go and give it to Mbappe, abi?

By the way, this is APOTY, and the winner doesn't even have to play in the top 5 leagues in Europe. We have had multiple APOTY winners who didn't even play in Europe in the past.

Osimhen has more goals and more trophies than Salah in their various local leagues this season. The only thing that could have increased their pedigree is the UCL, in which neither of them did anything spectacular.

Unless Liverpool somehow wins the Club World Cup (which they are not even going to feature in), then it's Osimhen.

Ballon d'Or candidate kwa? Lmao. Because some Liverpool fans and Egyptians are pushing it? He will be lucky to be in the top 10, self.

Why won’t I give it to mbappe who plays in a more competitive league ?

Osimhen can score 100 goals in turkey and won’t win the apoty ahead of salah ,it’s a very weak league egbon ,I am sure the Belgian league is even rated higher ,I am sure if a player from another African country wins the Belgian pro league Belgian cup and the ebony shoe award you won’t say he deserves to win the apoty

You are just being sentimental because he is our naija brother

Go and check the winners of the award for the past 20 years and tell me if anyone of them is playing in a weak league like the Turkish league

NinjaMetahuman:


barely more goals and barely more trophies are still more goals and more trophies.

Go and ask Golden Boot why they don't ascribe the same weighting on goals to Turkish league

Salah and Hakimi before Osimhen easy

airmark:


Larride, i played as a striker and i liked to play in front of skillful midfielders and wingers who make it easier for me to open for through es, crosses, after they have dribbled those shielding our opponents' defence.

Most strikers that know how to open up, will like to play in a team with Messi or Hazard or Sancho. Most of them have high number of chances created mainly because of their dribbling skills.

I have two questions

1. You know the importance of a effectives wingers and creative midfielders to a strikers game having played as one so why do you single out Jackson alone day in day out despite him playing with bums like himself in attack.

Secondly, Sancho! Why ?

See how them dey ignore caicedo for all poling boot awards man

Singapore1:
you can't force an Arsenal fan to like Chelsea players , especially after wetin we use their eyes see over the past decade, you can't just forget the PTSD easily, same reason them no rate Drogba. Preferring Salah to Hazard in every metric is questionable, and comparing Salah's dribbling style to Messi's is diabolical lol.

Because an arsenal fan said salah is better than hazard you are playing this card as if that’s not the truth

Even outside arsenal fans salah is rated far ahead of hazard by many football fans

zeez7:
See how them dey ignore caicedo for all poling boot awards man

Who do you think he should replace in that midfield and why

andrewbaba44:



Because an arsenal fan said salah is better than hazard you are playing this card as if that’s not the truth

Even outside arsenal fans salah is rated far ahead of hazard by many football fans

of course. it is the same reason Dembele will win Balloon'dor should PSG win the champions league

Singapore1:

of course. it is the same reason Dembele will win Balloon'dor should PSG win the champions league

I have no problem with that 👌

andrewbaba44:


Why won’t I give it to mbappe who plays in a more competitive league ?

Osimhen can score 100 goals in turkey and won’t win the apoty ahead of salah ,it’s a very weak league egbon ,I am sure the Belgian league is even rated higher ,I am sure if a player from another African country wins the Belgian pro league Belgian cup and the ebony shoe award you won’t say he deserves to win the apoty

You are just being sentimental because he is our naija brother

Go and check the winners of the award for the past 20 years and tell me if anyone of them is playing in a weak league like the Turkish league

okay then, since it's all about league coefficient, so that means dembele doesn't deserve balon d'or ahead of someone like yamal or Salah even if he wins UCL right?

Or is that where you want to start changing your mouth?

Ibime:


Barely more goals in a backwater league, much less assists

still more