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danvon(m): 1:14pm On May 17
PresidObi:


Sounds like the big trouble you have been placing on your head is starting to get heavy for you to continue carrying? Go school, no, learn work, no, learn trade, no, all of you have been entering armed forces since 1966 like you were programmed to keep fighting forever. Now your communities have been flooded with arms and ammunition, till you are all fighting and killing each other. Tell more of your children to armed forces.

Una go carry that weight and collapse under it.

It is better and useful to the society to the army than to one yeye cult or drug cartel, which is where most of your people prefer to direct their energy.
PresidObi: 1:18pm On May 17
danvon:


It is better and useful to the society to the army than to one yeye cult or drug cartel, which is where most of your people prefer to direct their energy.

None of my relatives are in any such illegal things. We are all professionals. Keep ing the armed forces, you will make a good security man.

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KnowAll(m): 1:18pm On May 17
danvon:


Don't mind them, they don't learn from history.

They don't want to be foot soldiers they want to be officers.

They never asked themselves, what if the foot soldiers decide not to follow your orders? what if the foot soldiers are not loyal to you?

Enter July 1966

Thank you my brother dem go put another Ironsi for power wey sergeant go over throw.

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osuofia2(m): 1:22pm On May 17
neonly:




Your picture says alot d intimidation is alarming
Go to Maiduguri and see what do locals go through.

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beerner: 1:32pm On May 17
KnowAll:
Just in case Obi wins tomorrow is it Hausa, Yoruba or Middle belt soldiers that would be in the brigade of guards providing that first circle of security operatives. Obi and any Igbo should encourage their kinsmen to the army so that once they become Commander in chief they have a bulwark of loyal soldiers who would give the president a safety net against any would be coupist or renegade.

Don’t make the mistake of January 1966 where General Ironsi was taking out like a toddler.

A word is good for the wise.
Igbos are very many in the Army. my wife is an Igbo woman from Owa Alero, Asaba and once in a while we host her colleagues that are also Army officers too and they are mostly Igbos.

Igbos are more in the Officer Corp.

does it even matters if the BoG must be Igbos ?
kettykin: 1:48pm On May 17
Does this mean that if a war breaks out between Nigeria and another country like Congo, Cameroon, Boko Haram , Herdsmen, ISWAP etc , igbos will not be fighting for Nigeria. if this is the case then the days of Nigeria as a country is numbered because i don't see a military advantage Nigeria has over Ghana or Cameroon , infact Nigeria is no longer the 4th strongest military in africa
danvon(m): 1:57pm On May 17
beerner:
Igbos are very many in the Army. my wife is an Igbo woman from Owa Alero, Asaba and once in a while we host her colleagues that are also Army officers too and they are mostly Igbos.

Igbos are more in the Officer Corp.

does it even matters if the BoG must be Igbos ?


Yes it does

During Vietnam war there was multiple cases of 'fragging'.

Foot soldiers have the highest casualty and disposability rate so if the foot soldiers feel disconnected or alienated with their officers then the officers get fragged.

In this case the officers are from a tribe that is very unpatriotic which means the foot soldiers would sooner or later begin to wonder why they are risking their lives for a man whose own people cannot risk their lives for him.
danvon(m): 1:58pm On May 17
kettykin:
Does this mean that if a war breaks out between Nigeria and another country like Congo, Cameroon, Boko Haram , Herdsmen, ISWAP etc , igbos will not be fighting for Nigeria. if this is the case then the days of Nigeria as a country is numbered because i don't see a military advantage Nigeria has over Ghana or Cameroon , infact Nigeria is no longer the 4th strongest military in africa

In this scenario there would be a forced conscription.
kettykin: 2:28pm On May 17
danvon:


In this scenario there would be a forced conscription.

Forced conscription, while sometimes necessary in times of existential threat, often undermines the cohesion and effectiveness of a military force. It breeds resentment, reduces morale, and produces soldiers whose loyalty is to survival rather than to the state or its ideals. Such a force is inherently fragile when confronted by a disciplined, professional, and ideologically committed adversary. This structural weakness has historically contributed to the decline of great powers—whether the overextended Roman Empire legions filled with non-Roman soldiers, the British Empire's reliance on colonial conscripts with very divergent back ground and allegiance, the Soviet Union’s bloated and morale-starved military complex, or the post-civil war Nigerian Empire military, burdened by internal factionalism and a highly contested national identity.

Military might without unity of purpose is ultimately unsustainable.

you cant coerce Loyalty
FriendsAndFans(m): 2:30pm On May 17
Fighting for who
columbus007(m): 2:35pm On May 17
This is the sickest forum ever, where igbo and yoruba fight tooth and nail. The hatred is outta this world man undecided
KnowAll(m): 2:36pm On May 17
David Unwahi works minister has made sure a lot Eboyans have d military. Other Governors from the east should help their wards if they are nursing any presidential hope.
danvon(m): 2:54pm On May 17
kettykin:

Forced conscription, while sometimes necessary in times of existential threat, often undermines the cohesion and effectiveness of a military force. It breeds resentment, reduces morale, and produces soldiers whose loyalty is to survival rather than to the state or its ideals. Such a force is inherently fragile when confronted by a disciplined, professional, and ideologically committed adversary. This structural weakness has historically contributed to the decline of great powers—whether the overextended Roman Empire legions filled with non-Roman soldiers, the British Empire's reliance on colonial conscripts with very divergent back ground and allegiance, the Soviet Union’s bloated and morale-starved military complex, or the post-civil war Nigerian Empire military, burdened by internal factionalism and a highly contested national identity.

Military might without unity of purpose is ultimately unsustainable.

you cant coerce Loyalty

United States relied on forced conscripts and they won WW1& WW2, only during Vietnam was that conscripts a problem and that's because Vietnam didn't threaten USA directly the way Japan did in WW2 and did in WW1.

The Soviets famously gave orders to shoot soldiers who ran away, and this led to the victory of Stalingrad.

The Roman empire fell because of a lack of forced conscription, Romans didn't want to the army but instead relied on other Nationalities to defend them, and soon those nationalities decided it would be more profitable to just attack Romans.

You cannot coerce loyalty but you can avoid disloyalty i.e death penalty for deserters
Evaloyal2J(f): 2:58pm On May 17
KnowAll:
David Unwahi works minister has made sure a lot Eboyans have d military. Other Governors from the east should help their wards if they are nursing any presidential hope.
why are you crying more than the berieved? Shebe when it's time for the highest igbo military personnel to head the military your bigoted lots will send them to compulsory retirement so as to pave way for your tribe men to position. Of what advantage has your military presence to ravaging herdmen and bokoharam in Benue, borno, platue, and the the northern states being ravage by ragtags? Why are you fixed on just the safety of just one igbo man who is not yet president instead of the general security of lives and properties of majority of Nigerians out there?
Caaz: 4:37pm On May 17
beerner:
Igbos are very many in the Army. my wife is an Igbo woman from Owa Alero, Asaba and once in a while we host her colleagues that are also Army officers too and they are mostly Igbos.

Igbos are more in the Officer Corp.

does it even matters if the BoG must be Igbos ?

Shatap,owa alero is not in asaba,you and lies are inseparable.

People are calling you out for scamming Someone stephen
naijaking1: 4:58pm On May 17
lordm:

The port Harcourt - Aba to Maiduguri railway nko. There numerous projects in the south east. What of your senators and governors, when will you hold them able for their service

Why refer to our governors and senators when most of them were imposed on us by the caliphate, they don't represent the hopes of our people but the Hopes of their muslim masters. the 4th running candidate who was declared governor against the peoples wishes? Please don't speak about our governors and leaders as if you don't know that they are put in office precisely to work against their people hopes and aspirations.
kettykin: 5:06pm On May 17
Evaloyal2J:
why are you crying more than the berieved? Shebe when it's time for the highest igbo military personnel to head the military your bigoted lots will send them to compulsory retirement so as to pave way for your tribe men to position. Of what advantage has your military presence to ravaging herdmen and bokoharam in Benue, borno, platue, and the the northern states being ravage by ragtags? Why are you fixed on just the safety of just one igbo man who is not yet president instead of the general security of lives and properties of majority of Nigerians out there?

There appears to be a brutal storm brewing — ISWAP, Boko Haram, and the toxic legacy of a nation built on exclusion and deceit. Now, in an act of desperate irony, the very same people who locked out the Igbo when it was time to share power and privilege — who ridiculed, sidelined, and denied us a seat at the table — are suddenly calling on us to pick up arms, the military, and defend “the unity of Nigeria.” Now they want us to suit up, salute the flag, and march into their war?

Let me be clear: I spit on the hypocrisy.

I will not send my sons, nor my daughters, nor a single soul tied by blood, bone, or breath to me, into a slaughterhouse to “unite” a Nigeria that has never given a damn if we lived or died. I owe this country nothing. Not a limb. Not a drop of blood. Not a shred of loyalty.

Let them fight their war. Let the architects of this madness burn in it.

I have yet to read of a single celebrated Jewish soldier in World War I or II who died defending the same regimes that tried to erase them. Why then should any Igbo man or woman be sacrificed for a failed state that would rather see them buried than raised?

My house, my kin, my lineage — we are not pawns in anyone’s dying empire.

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KnowAll(m): 7:26am On May 28
I hope Igbo’s are ing the army Abi na Aboki go Dey guard Obi.

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