NewStats: 3,259,253 , 8,169,614 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 01:53 PM 1j2a4h

To back your point….

This same role was d last month, the post didn’t stay a week on NHS jobs before it was pulled down… Then, it stated overseas worker who needed sponsorship were all welcomed.

Just yesterday they re-d the role and attached picture is what was written…

Going forward, it would be challenging to get a job that provides sponsorship like you opined.

But what I’m worried about is the continued provision of COS for the people that is currently being sponsored by NHS….

Goke7:

Ignorance is the issue, am sure those who are thinking 10 years is not an issue are not aware of recent changes to sponsorship by employers

1. Cost of asg a COS is now over £500 from 299 and this is now in force

2. In the white paper just released the cost of immigration skills charge paid by employers to sponsor any worker will now go up by 32% currently it’s £1000 per year so sponsoring a worker for 5 years is £5000 now that will go up by 32%

3. In the white paper too for any employer to sponsor they must show evidence of investment and training of citizens before they can be approved to sponsor and that’s where the home office will be waiting to deny employers to assign COS.

So going forward it will be more difficult for employers to sponsor and that’s where the catch of this new proposed policy is to ensure not many will make it to the finish line of 10 years and let’s be real how many employers with all the cost implications will be ready to sponsor for a whopping 10 years and how easy will it be to get new employers to switch sponsorship so those saying they are willing to work for 10 years am not sure they understand this new policy thoroughly perhaps they need to go and study that white paper before they go open their wide mouth like that Tanimu guy 😂

AKALAMAGBO:
To back your point….

This same role was d last month, the post didn’t stay a week on NHS jobs before it was pulled down… Then, it stated overseas worker who needed sponsorship were all welcomed.

Just yesterday they re-d the role and attached picture is what was written…

Going forward, it would be challenging to get a job that provides sponsorship like you opined.

But what I’m worried about is the continued provision of COS for the people that is currently being sponsored by NHS….

We can only hope like it’s been assumed that exceptions will be made especially for those working in the NHS. But I have learnt not to be too trusting in the Uk system as the rug can be pulled off your feet when you don’t expect. When we suggest here that people should have a plan b and look at other options some will come here to remind us that other places are not better so should people now sit in the uk and become overstayers with no fault of theirs?

AKALAMAGBO:
To back your point….

This same role was d last month, the post didn’t stay a week on NHS jobs before it was pulled down… Then, it stated overseas worker who needed sponsorship were all welcomed.

Just yesterday they re-d the role and attached picture is what was written…

Going forward, it would be challenging to get a job that provides sponsorship like you opined.

But what I’m worried about is the continued provision of COS for the people that is currently being sponsored by NHS….

I wouldn't worry too much about the NHS. They are one of the biggest employers and lobby groups; their sponsorships (especially clinical roles) are usually safe even if there are redundancies.

The issue going forward is that they will no longer sponsor new band 3 and 4 roles due to the proposed degree level requirement. However existing band 3 and 4 roles will still be sponsored and extended.

https://www.nhsemployers.org/news/what-changes-outlined-governments-immigration-white-paper-will-impact-nhs-workforce

Lexusgs430:



Was your flight Qatar Airlines..... I would ask questions before the day, than risk refused boarding.......

Yes I'm using Qatar airlines

Omotaday:
All these english On top simple question wey person ask.

Negate first leg? Na champions league?

Mrphilia, I don’t think you’d have any issue. As long as you have a valid visa. You can lay over in Doha, Qatar as a first timer going to the UK.

Speaking from experience.

Okay I will go to their office today and confirm.

One of the reasons why I just didn't bother with the Japa thing, sotey my not bothering was termed anti-japa. Thankfully, many others like Gerrard, Tensa have also been termed anti-japa just by having the nerve to make basic and simple common-sense statements.

I no like white man before, I go come upend everything I have built and worked for only to be made to jump through one hoop after the other. Omo, rather keep pushing on where baba God put me, and keep building on what he has blessed me with.

Then on labour, did I/some of us not tell you they would end up being the UK version of the APC..?? Not the least bit surprised about anything they have done so far. Expect a whole lot more backflips. Every single thing they demonized the other side for, they will do..and then some.

Goke7:


Are you ready to break the law or commit crime for your rights to be withdrawn? apart from that what other circumstances.

DO you know what law that can make the Uk take away your citizenship even though you was born in the Uk and one of your parent are English?

Goke7:

Ignorance is the issue, am sure those who are thinking 10 years is not an issue are not aware of recent changes to sponsorship by employers

1. Cost of asg a COS is now over £500 from 299 and this is now in force

2. In the white paper just released the cost of immigration skills charge paid by employers to sponsor any worker will now go up by 32% currently it’s £1000 per year so sponsoring a worker for 5 years is £5000 now that will go up by 32%

3. In the white paper too for any employer to sponsor they must show evidence of investment and training of citizens before they can be approved to sponsor and that’s where the home office will be waiting to deny employers to assign COS.

So going forward it will be more difficult for employers to sponsor and that’s where the catch of this new proposed policy is to ensure not many will make it to the finish line of 10 years and let’s be real how many employers with all the cost implications will be ready to sponsor for a whopping 10 years and how easy will it be to get new employers to switch sponsorship so those saying they are willing to work for 10 years am not sure they understand this new policy thoroughly perhaps they need to go and study that white paper before they go open their wide mouth like that Tanimu guy 😂

Even an increase of 2 years is a waste of time I swear down

Mrphilia:


Okay I will go to their office today and confirm.

Pls, update us on response..... 👌☀️

justwise:

I will consider Branch but if the process is anything like Armone then I will not bother

ed with SFS Fund, about to send lawma bill, to fulfill KYC..... Let's see if SFS is better than ARM (regarding KYC process).... 🤣😂

Lexusgs430:


Pls, update us on response..... 👌☀️

I just left the Qatar Airways office and they called their check-in desk at the airport and they said there wouldn't be any issues boarding me since I will be entering the UK when my visa is valid that's the most important aspect.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Goke7:

Ignorance is the issue, am sure those who are thinking 10 years is not an issue are not aware of recent changes to sponsorship by employers

1. Cost of asg a COS is now over £500 from 299 and this is now in force

2. In the white paper just released the cost of immigration skills charge paid by employers to sponsor any worker will now go up by 32% currently it’s £1000 per year so sponsoring a worker for 5 years is £5000 now that will go up by 32%

3. In the white paper too for any employer to sponsor they must show evidence of investment and training of citizens before they can be approved to sponsor and that’s where the home office will be waiting to deny employers to assign COS.

So going forward it will be more difficult for employers to sponsor and that’s where the catch of this new proposed policy is to ensure not many will make it to the finish line of 10 years and let’s be real how many employers with all the cost implications will be ready to sponsor for a whopping 10 years and how easy will it be to get new employers to switch sponsorship so those saying they are willing to work for 10 years am not sure they understand this new policy thoroughly perhaps they need to go and study that white paper before they go open their wide mouth like that Tanimu guy 😂

Mrphilia:


I just left the Qatar Airways office and they called their check-in desk at the airport and they said there wouldn't be any issues boarding me since I will be entering the UK when my visa is valid that's the most important aspect.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Cool. That kills the matter.... Enjoy your flight..... ✈️😂

It's interesting touching on all the comments about the proposed migration change.

My take on it is simple. It's appears to be a knee-jerk reaction by the current government.

They appear to be misreading what the public actually want. Quite often, people tend to misrepresent their frustrations. The fact is that for all said, main reason why people have lashed out are due to specific policy changes. Chief among them being the winter allowance removal. I have not met any older person who was not seething at that decision. We know how much sway this group has on politics.

There is lots of talk about migration, but for the most part, if people don't feel personally affected, they care less. It was quite clear inward migration would be much less under a Starmer government than the last. The main difference was supposed to be the posturing.

Oddly, it just seems that the current government (unlike the last) might be able to pull this through. Not because they want to, but because they gave themselves the financially leeway to do so e.g by reversing the proposed move by the last government to abolish NI, farmers inheritance tax changes, VAT on schools, winter fuel allowance changes, reviewing the benefit system and increasing fees that local students will pay. Most of those are the actual reasons for people's frustration not migration numbers which were already falling significantly.

Ultimately, such decisions tend to have unintended consequences. One thing that comes to mind would be how this change would significantly affect economic mobility and attainment by migrant groups. It has been estimated that this change is unlikely to significantly reduce the number of people that'd eventually get ILR. It just makes the process more tedious.

To the financial gurus in this space. Is this a good news? And how does it impact Nigeria?

Another is the talk of 'high-skill' which has never made much sense. We know most higher paying roles are well regulated and not as interchangeable. I wonder where the UK being a developed but relatively lower-paying country expects to get all that skill from.
As an example- bring 100 neurosurgeons into the UK today, most would be jobless in a year and would be of no benefit to society despite being skilled professionals. If those 100 were builders however, they would quickly get working and contributing. A society needs those skills it lacks not some mythical high-skilled folks.

It's funny how western governments like to make a mountain out of migration which should be so easy to end. Even in the UK- stop PSW, stop the NHS from recruiting abroad and stop care visas - thats 90% gone. Ultimately, right from windrush boat arrivals, migration here has never been about want, its all about need.

emmaodet:


Bro sorry to ask but what is all these fuss about the extended residency permit issue? 5 years extra and so what? If you get your British residency in 5 years, most probably you would have stayed extra 5 years or more anyway from observation.
So why the worry?
Most guys I know who migrated to US, Canada and UK have all been staying there years after getting their ports, I hardly know anyone who came back home finally, so waiting for 10 years, working and paying your taxes looks no different to me.

5 extra years being shackled to a visa would restrict attainment for most. It means less economic mobility, i.e you're more beholden to your employers, less able to speak up or change jobs or move e.t.c. In addition, less government e.g help with young kids, paying more for your mortgage e.t.c. what happens if after spending 9 years, someone loses their job? 5 years currently is barely doable.


I'd give a personal example. During covid, the government out of need lifted the 20hr extra work limit with other employers for health workers. This simple change meant I was able to restructure my work, set up a limited company and do over 60% of my work via my company. The increase in differential earning by that set-up was just abt 100k a year. What's better is that working via my ltd co was much more tax efficient. I was subsequently able to putdown a 25% deposit for a decent house, get a much better mortgage rate and hence pay less to the bank. All that would not have been possible in that time if that simple change was not made. Compound that benefit over several years and its a different picture.

Yo can also look at the visa fee which is one of the highest in the developed world- take the 5 year visa fee for a family of 5, stick it in a relevant ISA and let it compound at 9% over 20 years and see how much it is.

Goodenoch:


Personally I’m much much less interested in citizenship than in the ability to switch employers without having to deal with sponsorship issues. I came to the UK not because I was suffering in NG but because a lot of the biggest employers in my profession are here, and work visa limitations are a serious hurdle in accessing some of them. Also, business is a priority for me and the UK would be a great base for many reasons.

I have been very fortunate in the roles I’ve secured and have been able to make substantial progress still (about to be sponsored by the third organisation in less than 3 years) but I’m certain that if sponsorship was not an issue I’d be earning a lot more plus be able to start and run my own business without limitations, and the benefits of that freedom will only continue to compound over time. I don’t have any issues with paying the IHS or whatever - its an irritant but not a huge deal in the large scheme of things.

But having to limit what work/business I can do for 5 more years? Huge issue.

Well said. Economic mobility cant be understated

You can still run a business though limited to 20hrs. Depending on your field, if your invoice for job done is not based on hours put in, then the 20hr limit becomes a vague limit. When done properly, the benefits of being incorporated are good. I can't see myself returning to a fulltime PAYE job

Gerrard59:

Nah!

They want to kpeme in the UK. They believe they know more than the natives and can cut themselves off from their dominant societies. Thank God na the so-called liberal party aka lovey-dovey party with its leader labelling migrants as strangers, rightfully so anyway. In Reddit/UKPolitics, there were a lot of comments which stated that there should be a cultural clause to it where Aussies, Americans, New Zealanders aren't affected as Bangladeshis and Indians. You see, humans are tribal.

With my experience in the abroad, it is a place where you gain knowledge, build s, save hard currency to build where you know you are wanted, where people look like you, eat the dishes you like etc. It must not be Nigeria as Nigeria is not the only Black dominated country. I thought the 2023 elections would have taught people lessons, mbanu! If the natives say they don't want you, as evident by the comments I read on the Financial Times, what are you going to do about it?

In this life, you should never force anyone to like or accommodate you. Get what you want and port out.

You do tend to lay undue emphasis on what random people think about you. Look around you- the world you live in is a story of migration. It would never change. You are a Nigerian today because someone migrated.

Even in Nigeria, same can be said. I was earning good working in northern Nigeria despite being of southern heritage. Should I have packed my load and went to the south cos many of my kinsmen had been killed in the north? Or is it the recent Lagos shenanigans?

No offence, but I find it difficult to believe you've left Nigeria- most of those comments you place undue emphasis on are made by people with less education than you and who would certainly not say that in the open -folks whose livelihood are partly funded by taxes of migrants. If I was worried about what 'natives' thought about me, I would be living in a hut in my village.

jedisco:
Another is the talk of 'high-skill' which has never made much sense. We know most higher paying roles are well regulated and not as interchangeable. I wonder where the UK being a developed but relatively lower-paying country expects to get all that skill from.
As an example- bring 100 neurosurgeons into the UK today, most would be jobless in a year and would be of no benefit to society despite being skilled professionals. If those 100 were builders however, they would quickly get working and contributing. A society needs those skills it lacks not some mythical high-skilled folks.

It's funny how western governments like to make a mountain out of migration which should be so easy to end. Even in the UK- stop PSW, stop the NHS from recruiting abroad and stop care visas - thats 90% gone. Ultimately, right from windrush boat arrivals, migration here has never been about want, its all about need.

It's all fantasy, moreover they can't complete much in not only attracting but retaining such skills in comparison to their western peers due to wages which is what has never been addressed.

Santa2:


Based on current trend it seems like Farage might be the next PM, as a smart politician that he is, he is already painting Starmer as flopper referencing his initial stand on immigration in 2020 as reference, except some miracle happens like how Trump gave the Liberals a new lease of life in Canada. While I detest all that reforms stands for, I would like for them to get into power as I believe they would flop and flonder. If the current whitepaper is implemented I believe the legal migration numbers would go down and at that point they (reform) would have to look for ways to attract people in to do the work citizens wouldn't do, that oxymoron would make for a good laugh. Most skilled people are already looking at Japa 2.0/3.0 even if it just for the sake of giving them middle finger . Its really annoying when you already 3 years in on skilled work visa, with 2 years to ILR in view then you realize the goal post might soon be shifted. No be their fault sha na Naija leaders cause am. Anyways for those looking at options, You might want to look into EB2 - NIW which gives US green card without need for Job offer, The requirement is not stringent as EB-1A only that it has longer waiting times than EB 1. Of the 6 criteria for EB2, you need to show at least 3 of the criteria. Make God help all of us. God no go shame us for this Oga Charlie Land.

Good points.

The conservatives or Reform despite all the mouthing would struggle to bring down migration numbers as much as Labour simply cos they'd not make some of the cuts Labour has.

Like I've always said, with Reform, I'd much rather they are in power than be the major opposition.

NewT123:
This news touch me o! I hope they don’t do the 10 year wait. It’s already draining counting down to the 5year route. An additional 5 years could lead to more exploitation of workers, desperation and the feeling of being less wanted. Instead of encouraging integration with the community it will foster more separation. Many may not want to leave because of the uncertainty elsewhere. There will be more borrowing on the parts of immigrants leading to more struggles to pay the exorbitant visa fees. It now seems that seeking asylum may become a more faster route to settlement as once successful, you are granted a settled status ( not encouraged though). Well, it’s their country and their rules but if implemented, it is a clear breach of contract as this wasn’t what was promised before many embarked on the journey. Let’s watch as the story unfolds

'Integration': Another buzzword which actually means 'see yourself as inferior, forget your culture and say nothing'

5 more years would make it easier

Goke7:


It's all fantasy, moreover they can't complete much in not only attracting but retaining such skills in comparison to their western peers due to wages which is what has never been addressed.

We thank God for economic mobility- e dey help.

Wage in the UK is a tricky one. While the UK has one of the highest minimum wage, median wage and pay for professionals (especially) lags its counterparts. Higher earners do quite some heavy lifting in taxes but get relatively less out of the system.

There are loads of very generous interventions- from 12.5k tax free allowance, to free healthcare, nursery , good state pensions e.t.c. that are not roundly available in most countries.

jedisco:


We thank God for economic mobility- e dey help.

Wage in the UK is a tricky one. While the UK has one of the highest minimum wage, median wage and pay for professionals (especially) lags its counterparts. Higher earners do quite some heavy lifting in taxes but get relatively less out of the system.

There are loads of very generous interventions- from 12.5k tax free allowance, to free healthcare, nursery , good state pensions e.t.c. that are not roundly available in most countries.

That’s where the issue is, folks don’t really enjoy the reward of their labour and the so called free healthcare and other perks don’t really compensate for the huge chunk of taxes. It’s also the reason many prefer to rely on benefits than to work themselves out for others to benefit from their huge taxes

jedisco:



You do tend to lay undue emphasis on what random people think about you. Look around you- the world you live in is a story of migration. It would never change. You are a Nigerian today because someone migrated.

Even in Nigeria, same can be said. I was earning good working in northern Nigeria despite being of southern heritage. Should I have packed my load and went to the south cos many of my kinsmen had been killed in the north? Or is it the recent Lagos shenanigans?

No offence, but I find it difficult to believe youve left Nigeria- most of those comments you place undue emphasis on are made by people with less education than you who would certainly not say that in the open -folks whose livelihood are partly funded by taxes of migrants. If I was worried about what natives though about me, I would be living in a hut in my village.

Goodenoch:


Point is I’m surprised anyone thinks that the freedom to change careers/employers at will is not a serious thing to not have for 5 additional years.

In the post you quoted, did you read where I said this was the major issue or you're not referring to me by the bolded?

erico2k2:

Even in the Uk, there is nothing as absolute rights to be British citizen. It could be withdrawn from you under certain circumstances.

Thanks for this comment.

This just shows that you need to start living the kind of life you will live when you become a citizen because becoming a citizen may not change much.

erico2k2:

DO you know what law that can make the Uk take away your citizenship even though you was born in the Uk and one of your parent are English?

If your citizenship was not obtained through fraud and you are not a threat to national security..can you tell me how your citizenship will be taken away from you?

jedisco:


Good points.

The conservatives or Reform despite all the mouthing would struggle to bring down migration numbers as much as Labour simply cos they'd not make some of the cuts Labour has.

Like I've always said, with Reform, I'd much rather they are in power than be the major opposition.

As per the proposed changes, I recommend people write to their MPs so their views are considered during the consultation process in parliament, and MPS can appreciate that a section of their electorate is not pleased with the way the change has been proposed and the language thereof.

I have written my MP and asked her to push for a fairer deal when the topic comes up in parliament and recommend others do the same.

jedisco:
It's interesting touching on all the comments about the proposed migration change.

My take on it is simple. It's appears to be a knee-jerk reaction by the current government.

They appear to be misreading what the public actually want. Quite often, people tend to misrepresent their frustrations. The fact is that for all said, main reason why people have lashed out are due to specific policy changes. Chief among them being the winter allowance removal. I have not met any older person who was not seething at that decision. We know how much sway this group has on politics.

Lol, you're clearly still not paying attention.

Do you think Labour would propose such drastic measures if their focus groups and internal polling did not underscore the public's sustained frustration on this issue? Reform has stated that immigration (both legal and illegal) is one of the main reasons they did so well at the local elections (and are now polling ahead of Labour and the other parties). Polls have shown that the majority of voters, including Labour, think that levels of migration are too high.

So it's not a misread from the government, the writing's been on the wall for a while and Labour campaigned on a platform of bringing down net migration significantly. People just didn't believe that they would follow through.

jedisco:


Well said. Economic mobility cant be understated

You can still run a business though limited to 20hrs. Depending on your field, if your invoice for job done is not based on hours put in, then the 20hr limit becomes a vague limit. When done properly, the benefits of being incorporated are good. I can't see myself returning to a fulltime PAYE job

How does this work if there were no visa restrictions?

justwise:


If your citizenship was not obtained through fraud and you are not a threat to national security..can you tell me how your citizenship will be taken away from you?

By whining the MPs that you’re willing to give up your citizenship status and you want to exit the UK to help reduce net migration 😂