NewStats: 3,259,520 , 8,170,413 topics. Date: Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 12:42 PM 67241v

Jamesclooney:


It seemed very obvious to me. From the gov POV, if you allow the 1.5m skilled workers in the system already to continue with 5yrs pathway, they would’ve missed the boat. The new applicants will be a trickle compared to all those that have come in since 2020 (Boriswave).

Best bet to stop this would be judicial review/court intervention.

I have said it earlier that only the courts can stop the nonsense

Goke7:


I have said it earlier that only the courts can stop the nonsense

Unfortunately, if they do it through primary legislation, in the form of an Act of Parliament, then the courts can't do anything about it. In the UK system Parliament is supreme and there's no scope for the Supreme Court to overturn primary legislation like what obtains in the US.
They'll also partially disapply HRA 1998 as well so no one can put forward claims in that connection.

Lexusgs430:



Anyone with any other skin, must return to their grandparents country........ 😁😂

Kemi won't even be spared

Jamesclooney:


It seemed very obvious to me. From the gov POV, if you allow the 1.5m skilled workers in the system already to continue with 5yrs pathway, they would’ve missed the boat. The new applicants will be a trickle compared to all those that have come in since 2020 (Boriswave).

Best bet to stop this would be judicial review/court intervention.

That's why they're targeting the measure to come into force in early 2026, because it excludes the bulk of the so-called Boriswave (which properly got going from 2021). People who came in on Tier 2 visas in 2020 came in under the old rules; it was a mix of the regular Tier 2 intakes and some of those who came in as students in 2019 in anticipation of the reintroduction of the Graduate visa in 2021. The first real large group of students and their dependants who came to take up the GV came during covid in 2020 and it's likely that the numbers of those of this group who had switched to Skilled Worker visas by early 2021 will be a small proportion.

I think the retroactivity is pretty much sewn up, much as one would wish it otherwise. The next steps are to wait to see who'll be excluded from the blanket 10 years and to either try and fit oneself thereinto (Home Office guidance might take a while to come out), activate any Plan B or roll the dice on keeping one's job for another 1 to 9 years.

Cyberknight:


Unfortunately, if they do it through primary legislation, in the form of an Act of Parliament, then the courts can't do anything about it. In the UK system Parliament is supreme and there's no scope for the Supreme Court to overturn primary legislation like what obtains in the US.
They'll also partially disapply HRA 1998 as well so no one can put forward claims in that connection.

So how many millions of people are you going to deport if they cannot get ilr, interesting times ahead. They will only create a problem that will take another legislation to handle. Everything may be set theoretically until reality hits.

willyede:



https://leaders.ng/2025/05/14/the-cbn-just-removed-these-7-banking-barriers-for-nigerians-abroad/

But these or most of these were possible before now. So what did they make easier?

🤣🤣🤣🤭 Standard KYC document requirements from financial services companies in Naija. Just tell them you are non-resident, scan and send them what you have in line with that.

Lexusgs430:



How do your people expect me to navigate some of this requirements........ 🤣😁

Goke7:


So how many millions of people are you going to deport if they cannot get ilr, interesting times ahead. They will only create a problem that will take another legislation to handle. Everything may be set theoretically until reality hits.

We'll just have to wait and see. If Reform gets in in 2029, they'll definitely take a leaf from the current US govt playbook and try their hand at being ICE for at least a while, with all the offshoring of both the legal and the illegal, door battering and spurious visa-revoking no matter what it costs (and mass deportations are hugely expensive). I don't see Labour or a left-wing government going that far. Perhaps, with this whole initiative, Labour is also ing on the message that non-settled folk had better hope (and vote accordingly where they can) that Labour get back into power otherwise Rehoboam will come to do his thing.

Goke7:


Starmer surely goofed and I saying it here when he bashed kemi as the saviour of the western world that that was a racist slur but starmer keep getting away with these things because he’s not seen as a far right politician. I was enraged with that stupid comment of an island of strangers but that’s how the society has evolved so we will have to live with it and pray we don’t begin to see physical harm in the streets as a result of these careless and reckless statements from politicians of all political leaning. But if this is what the present generation of uk politicians have to offer now then we all should be ready to accept and collect whatever we are presented with.

Well said.

I believe that Starmer is an honest guy, but if we're going to call out Kemi for being a hypocrite then we also have to it the same of Starmer. A London human rights lawyer who has championed immigrant rights his whole career to suddenly do a 180 and adopt Kemi's/Tory's/Reform's policies and rhetoric...... reality is few politicians remain wholly true to their principles, except the likes of Jeremy Corbyn, but his principles don't appeal to the wider public lol

iyatrustee:
Screenshot from BBC.

This immigration change will affect those already on the 5year route! Only dependents of British citizens are exempt.

There might be further exemptions announced later on, e.g. those on ancestral visas, BNOs etc

Goke7:


So how many millions of people are you going to deport if they cannot get ilr, interesting times ahead. They will only create a problem that will take another legislation to handle. Everything may be set theoretically until reality hits.

Hmm, they are probably counting on these people getting fed up and leaving on their own volition.

It's very difficult to live in the UK without papers. Much more difficult than the US (pre Trump).

Not being able to work (except under the table which opens them up to exploitation and slavery), rent or own property, constantly living in fear of immigration raids, increasing digitisation making it harder to hide their status, not able to use the NHS freely, travel etc

It used to be 10 years as an overstayer to achieve ILR. Then it went to 14 years. Last Tory government hiked it up to 30 years total to ILR as an overstayer...it may yet increase further. How many adults can live like this for this length of time? It's not a life that one should choose if possible.

Goke7:
Hoping after all these gbas gbos we can finally rest from all the ‘immigrants are our problems and the reason we don’t have jobs or hospitals appointments rubbish’

We can only anticipate we begin to hear Brits talk more about economic productivity and getting back to work, any more finger pointing after this will just be comedy 😂

Exactly, Let's see what else they'll complain about.

Their politicians don't discuss the cost of living crisis, rising house rents, collapsing infrastructure, and the drop in standards of goods in the UK.

Everybody's problem is immigrants.

Cyberknight:


Unfortunately, if they do it through primary legislation, in the form of an Act of Parliament, then the courts can't do anything about it. In the UK system Parliament is supreme and there's no scope for the Supreme Court to overturn primary legislation like what obtains in the US.
They'll also partially disapply HRA 1998 as well so no one can put forward claims in that connection.

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The last time they changed the ILR qualifying period in 2006, they did so via secondary legislation which opened them up to legal challenges and eventually having to do a U-turn when the High Court ruled against it in 2009.

Therefore this time, lessons learned and all, and because the proposed extension period is much more significant, they will almost certainly make such changes via primary legislation.

As you've noted, courts have very limited scope to challenge an Act of parliament. They could try to utilise Article 8 Right to Private Life - which the government is simultaneously planning to restrict, but even if the claim was successful , courts are still powerless to overturn the legislation. At best they could issue a declaration of incompatibility, if they were bold enough under the current climate, but the government is not under any obligation to comply.

I assume this is one of the scariest moment living in UK.

Professionals on skilled worker visa have been thrown in limbo… At the end of the day, no place like home as they say.

You could wake up tomorrow and be told to leave the country, but that wouldn’t happen if you are in your home country.

Thats why I always preach about investing back home.

Interesting times ahead.

AKALAMAGBO:
I assume this is one of the scariest moment living in UK.

Professionals on skilled worker visa have been thrown in limbo… At the end of the day, no place like home as they say.

You could wake up tomorrow and be told to leave the country, but that wouldn’t happen if you are in your home country.

Thats why I always preach about investing back home.

Interesting times ahead.

For me, the key take away is that relocation/Japa should be seen as a means to an end and never an end in itself. I'll say Nigerians (especially those without settled status) in the UK should be interested in politics back home, who rules, who wins elections etc because there's indeed no place like home. I'll say Nigerians in the UK should save save and save/invest for the rainy day, keep developing yourselves and earning transferrable skills/degrees, live a modest life and approach mortgages with caution. No place like home.

When you say approach mortgages with caution” Do you mean pause any mortgage plan if there’s any and see what happens? Or save the mortgage deposit and keep saving 😂😂

It’s already looking a bit funny for skilled workers now

ehizario2012:


For me, the key take away is that relocation/Japa should be seen as a means to an end and never an end in itself. I'll say Nigerians (especially those without settled status) in the UK should be interested in politics back home, who rules, who wins elections etc because there's indeed no place like home. I'll say Nigerians in the UK should save save and save/invest for the rainy day, keep developing yourselves and earning transferrable skills/degrees, live a modest life and approach mortgages with caution. No place like home.

ehizario2012:


For me, the key take away is that relocation/Japa should be seen as a means to an end and never an end in itself. I'll say Nigerians (especially those without settled status) in the UK should be interested in politics back home, who rules, who wins elections etc because there's indeed no place like home. I'll say Nigerians in the UK should save save and save/invest for the rainy day, keep developing yourselves and earning transferrable skills/degrees, live a modest life and approach mortgages with caution. No place like home.

You seem to think it's all doom and gloom......... 😁🤔

Approach mortgage with caution kwa....... 🤣😂

And pay your landlord's mortgages, with levity....... 😊😁

ehizario2012:


For me, the key take away is that relocation/Japa should be seen as a means to an end and never an end in itself. I'll say Nigerians (especially those without settled status) in the UK should be interested in politics back home, who rules, who wins elections etc because there's indeed no place like home. I'll say Nigerians in the UK should save save and save/invest for the rainy day, keep developing yourselves and earning transferrable skills/degrees, live a modest life and approach mortgages with caution. No place like home.

You are right especially on that Mortgage aspect.

It crossed my mind this year but given the precedents of the U.K government, I shelved the idea and decided to see what I can get at home first. Turns out my instincts were right.

AKALAMAGBO:
When you say approach mortgages with caution” Do you mean pause any mortgage plan if there’s any and see what happens? Or save the mortgage deposit and keep saving 😂😂

It’s already looking a bit funny for skilled workers now

Lol, both applies.

Reminds me of that Chinua Achebe proverb again:

'Eneke the bird says that since men have learned to shoot without missing, he has learned to fly without perching'

Raalsalghul:


You are right especially on that Mortgage aspect.

It crossed my mind this year but given the precedents of the U.K government, I shelved the idea and decided to see what I can get at home first. Turns out my instincts were right.

My opinion is:
Get the mortgage, if you can. When shite finally hits the ceiling and you need to return to Naij, you sell the house (hopefully you’ve built equity). You get something back.
But if you are perpetual rent, then when you have to return, your landlord gets to keep ALl you have paid on rents.

Lexusgs430:



You seem to think it's all doom and gloom......... 😁🤔

Approach mortgage with caution kwa....... 🤣😂

And pay your landlord's mortgages, with levity....... 😊😁

With all this doom and gloom, the bold does not seem like a bad idea.

So you mean those who have the deposit should keep paying landlord for another 4 years? And not buy…

Is it not better to still get that mortgage, getting the mortgage means your deposit is tied against a property and you can sell if let’s say the government asked people to leave, that, you can recoup your deposit back.

Or I’m I missing the scope?

Raalsalghul:


Lol, both applies.

Reminds me of that Chinua Achebe proverb again:

'Eneke the bird says that since men have learned to shoot without missing, he has learned to fly without perching'

ReesheesuKnack:


My opinion is:
Get the mortgage, if you can. When shite finally hits the ceiling and you need to return to Naij, you sell the house (hopefully you’ve built equity). You get something back.
But if you are perpetual rent, then when you have to return, your landlord gets to keep ALl you have paid on rents.

How easy is it to liquidate though?

On the flip side…. If the 1.5 million people are asked to leave? Who would fill those roles in healthcare?

AKALAMAGBO:
So you mean those who have the deposit should keep paying landlord for another 4 years? And not buy…

Is it not better to still get that mortgage, getting the mortgage means your deposit is tied against a property and you can sell if let’s say the government asked people to leave, that, you can recoup your deposit back.

Or I’m I missing the scope?

I don't know, everyone should do what suits them.

Every mallam with him kettle.

Zahra29:


Hey! I was thinking about you the other day - good to have you back here. Hope you've been keeping well.

I hear she's defected from Labour to Libdems lol
The "competent man" Starmer has disappointed many. Not much daylight between his policies and those proposed by the racist Kemi/Tories.

I’m keeping well. Many thanks.

LOL @ defected from Labour to LibDems.

I will not be surprised.

Going through the threads here, I wonder. Some people (who were only able to ‘finally’ japa from nigeria because of ‘BorisWave’) became hugely critical of the Tories. Calling the Tories anti-immigration and racist etc… I wonder if they still feel the same with 2-tier Kier at the wheels.

AKALAMAGBO:
On the flip side…. If the 1.5 million people are asked to leave? Who would fill those roles in healthcare?

Do you recall 2-tier Kier’s ‘Youth Mobility’ visa scheme? Where youngsters from EUROPE will come to the UK?

I think those will fill the healthcare vacancies.

Raalsalghul:


How easy is it to liquidate though?

It’s easier than paying your landlord’s mortgage with your rent. I know.

ReesheesuKnack:


It’s easier than paying your landlord’s mortgage with your rent. I know.

British sarcasm.

AKALAMAGBO:
On the flip side…. If the 1.5 million people are asked to leave? Who would fill those roles in healthcare?

The plan is that staff deemed essential and critical and useful (such as medical professionals, IT folk) will remain on the current 5 year pathway to settlement now and in the future.

Raalsalghul:


With all this doom and gloom, the bold does not seem like a bad idea.

To your tents, O Israel, does not butter no parsnips........😂🤣

AKALAMAGBO:
So you mean those who have the deposit should keep paying landlord for another 4 years? And not buy…

Is it not better to still get that mortgage, getting the mortgage means your deposit is tied against a property and you can sell if let’s say the government asked people to leave, that, you can recoup your deposit back.

Or I’m I missing the scope?

They think the British would adopt their own '' Ghana must go situation ''...... 🤣😂