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Lioness5280:


Envy
Bitterness
And ofcourse wishing for the downfall of SA are common traits and wishes among your people. That's why the Lord continues to sink your nation faster than most in the world. When you wish others illwill because you're incapable of measuring up,you endup hurting yourself with the same wishes.

And it's a pleasure .

While most of your comments are spot on and seem to be intelligent, you need to relax this notion about Nigerians hating your country

Most of us here don’t care about you or your country, we are too large and diverse and don’t even you exist beyond the last World Cup you hosted and will clap our hands for you if we hear anything good

You make generalizations just like Nigerians do about South Africans and accuse them of unintelligence when you are no different. Recognize you are a troll engaging trolls and perhaps try to touch some grass in real life

Look at Kingcold, take some examples from the way he engages Nigerian trolls and act like the intelligent person you claim to be

boxypane:

All na Cruz! Hope you're getting ready for your sanctions!!! Kangaroo headed ruffians.

We know you smart hardworkers wish for that .....but you'll get more hungrier and poorer before we ever get any sanctions our way . And I'm sure you were that beautifully shaped head known for criminality on your shoulders ....the bitterness in your comments tells me so

Maysdevices:
While most of your comments are spot on and seem to be intelligent, you need to relax this notion about Nigerians hating your country

Most of us here don’t care about you or your country, we are too large and diverse and don’t even you exist beyond the last World Cup you hosted and will clap our hands for you if we hear anything good

You make generalizations just like Nigerians do about South Africans and accuse them of unintelligence when you are no different. Recognize you are a troll engaging trolls and perhaps try to touch some grass in real life

Look at Kingcold, take some examples from the way he engages Nigerian trolls and act like the intelligent person you claim to be

LMAO. South Africa is by far the most hated nationality on nairaland, and you can expect a SA topic to reach 12 pages within a few hours ; filled with bitter comments from Nigerians ....yes, most here could careless about SA but they sure can't get the country and it's people out their evil- wishlist . I believe you lady .

Anyways .....We know why black SA are the most insulted people here followed by Black Americans ......it's pretty obvious. Well even after the world cup ....SA still remains the most popular African destination ( after Ghana that doesn't require visa) for Nigerian hardworkers and the loud rejection of these sort of migrants has lead to this bitterness all over social media ( not just nairaland.unblockandhide.com).

I never claimed to be intelligent....perhaps you want to flatter me with a complement? don't be shy

South Africa's economy has always been dominated by the Whites

KingCold:
You Nigerians really overplay and over inflate the importance of white people. It's kinda sad actually

You Nigerians? What are you? A mexican.

It's not by making careless and sentimental statements. Go and research before making thoughtless responses/comments

These the 5 richest people in South Africa and only the 4th is a black man

1Johann Rupert
2.Nicky Oppenheimer & Family
3.Koos Bekker
4.Patrice Motsepe
5.Michiel le Roux

These are the 5 biggest corporations in South Africa. Please tell me how many are owned by black people

1 Naspers 1NPSNY $45.63 B
2 FirstRand 2FSR.JO $23.52 B
3 Capitec Bank 3I.JO $22.71 B
4 AngloGold Ashanti 4AU $22.55 B

ShopRite, Vodafone, Multi Choice are owned by whites

And you say am inflating the importance of White people? Really. The Whites own the economy of South Africa. It's Fact and not sentiments

Please before you put out baseless comments better have your facts right

Lioness5280:



LMAO. South Africa is by far the most hated nationality on nairaland, and you can expect a SA topic to reach 12 pages within a few hours ; filled with bitter comments from Nigerians ....yes, most here could careless about SA but they sure can't get the country and it's people out their evil- wishlist . I believe you lady .

Anyways .....We know why black SA are the most insulted people here followed by Black Americans ......it's pretty obvious. Well even after the world cup ....SA still remains the most popular African destination ( after Ghana that doesn't require visa) for Nigerian hardworkers and the loud rejection of these sort of migrants has lead to this bitterness all over social media ( not just nairaland.unblockandhide.com).

I never claimed to be intelligent....perhaps you want to flatter me with a complement? don't be shy

It's natural for rivals to hate each other.. same way a Nigerian bad news will trigger vile comments from south African and Ghanaian. Just go to X on any Africa news page.

IbeOkehie:


No Igbo will ever be elected President of Nigeria. My children have a better chance of achieving the office of President of the United States than an Igbo becoming President of Nigeria.

The tribalism of Black is Africans against each other is more potent and consequential than whatever racism exists in the USA or UK.

At least Igbo people with citizenship can freely vote in US or UK elections. Igbo people still run the risk of being killed for trying to vote in Lagos or Kano.



You don't want to share the fruits of the White Mans development with other Africans!!! Really makes sense, I don't blame you at all.


Good Luck to Nigeria.

I wonder why I keep on getting banned when replying to you. Trust me ,I'm not avoiding your inferiority ridden posts. I.have a drafted reply but they keep on deleting both replies .Will try again

IkePeters:



You Nigerians? What are you? A mexican.

It's not by making careless and sentimental statements. Go and research before making thoughtless responses/comments

These the 5 richest people in South Africa and only the 4th is a black man

1Johann Rupert
2.Nicky Oppenheimer & Family
3.Koos Bekker
4.Patrice Motsepe
5.Michiel le Roux

These are the 5 biggest corporations in South Africa. Please tell me how many are owned by black people

1 Naspers 1NPSNY $45.63 B
2 FirstRand 2FSR.JO $23.52 B
3 Capitec Bank 3I.JO $22.71 B
4 AngloGold Ashanti 4AU $22.55 B

ShopRite, Vodafone, Multi Choice are owned by whites

And you say am inflating the importance of White people? Really. The Whites own the economy of South Africa. It's Fact and not sentiments

Please before you put out baseless comments better have your facts right

IkePeters:



You Nigerians? What are you? A mexican.

It's not by making careless and sentimental statements. Go and research before given thoughtless responses/comments

These the 5 richest people in South Africa and only the 4th is a black man

1Johann Rupert
2.Nicky Oppenheimer & Family
3.Koos Bekker
4.Patrice Motsepe
5.Michiel le Roux

These are the 5 biggest corporations in South Africa. Please tell me how many are owned by black people

1 Naspers 1NPSNY $45.63 B
2 FirstRand 2FSR.JO $23.52 B
3 Capitec Bank 3I.JO $22.71 B
4 AngloGold Ashanti 4AU $22.55 B

ShopRite, Vodafone, Multi Choice are owned by whites

And you say am inflating the importance of White people? Really. The Whites own the economy of South Africa. It's Fact and not sentiments

Please before you put out baseless comments better have your facts right

Can you list the white owners of these companies and the shares they each own ...I'm curious .

Ofcourse there are more white billionaires in SA, didn't they have a 400 year head- start in wealth creation? . Why hasn't Nigeria caught up with Britain's headstart in development and standards of living ?

You own the economy of Nigeria, because you have 5 black billionaires? ......why are blacks in Nigeria the poorest blacks in the world ?

How can people who control their own economy be in such a pathetic position?

Nigerian economy is largely informal ( pover- preneurship) basically a trade based economy where most goods are imported from non black countries and consumed by unproductive Nigerians whilst the traders get petty change which leads to the low living standards that are rampant over there .
And the 30 % of the formal economy is dominated by multinationals from the likes of SA, India, Britain

Only 12 people? ….a drop in the ocean but more focused on making a racist statement but he only created an avenue for democrats to capitalize on and do a broader refugee based immigration in future when they take over power

wiseone28:
It's natural for rivals to hate each other.. same way a Nigerian bad news will trigger vile comments from south African and Ghanaian. Just go to X on any Africa news page.

I love that you stopped making it a one way thing ; always playing victims of SA . You're maturing boy...congratulations

IkePeters:
South Africa's economy has always been dominated by the Whites

And the formal economy of Nigeria has always been dominated by whites,Indians and Lebanese. With the handful of black billionaires, but the vast majority don't benefit nothing but petty trade ( dominating pover-preneurship)

zoedew:

Your comment applies to folks who wish others ill. I wish the Blackman in every nation www well. All I did was express my views and not from a mindset of ill will.

LMAO. Yeah your comments sounded like comments who wished black SA well . You're bitter about SA and so are many of your people.....you can all hide this behind fake pan africanism or fake concerns for the continent . SA is that country that gives you people chestpains with all its troubles ....it pains you

Lionessza6:



I wonder why I keep on getting banned when replying to you. Trust me ,I'm not avoiding inferiority ridden posts.[color=#990000][/color] I.have a drafted reply but they keep on deleting both replies .Will try again

I would like to read it. Maybe there's some key words you need to avoid? In any case INFERIORITY AND SUPERIORITY exist in nature. Here's a little example -

Chinese people are generally shorter than Negroes. This is a GENETIC reality that technology hasn't yet been able to overcome.

Basketball is a sport in which HEIGHT is an advantage. It makes sense that there's more Blacks than Chinese in the USA National Basketball Association. There's no denigration is saying that Blacks are generally superior to Chinese in the sport of basketball.

At the same time, the Chinese man Yao Ming is taller than 95% of Blacks in this world...., Chinese are generally shorter than Blacks.

Exceptions make the rule. Black Americans were sold into slavery by their Black African brethren 500 years ago. Today Black Americans are the wealthiest, healthiest and best living Negroes on the planet...followed by the Black British and then South African Blacks. There's one glaring commonality that even the blind can FEEL.

Call it whatever you wish, the facts stand for themselves. Black South Africans don't want to share the fruits of White development with other Blacks and that's a very understandable instinct. Facts over Feelings.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Lionessza6:


LMAO. Yeah your comments sounded like comments who wished black SA well . You're bitter about SA and so are many of your people.....you can all hide this behind fake pan africanism or fake concerns for the continent . SA is that country that gives you people chestpains with all its troubles ....it pains you

I guess it is better to leave you with your preconceived notions.

codemaniacs:


There is no tribalism in Nigeria.



Stop saying nonsense.

Look yourself in the mirror.

Lionessza6:


LMAO. Yeah your comments sounded like comments who wished black SA well . You're bitter about SA and so are many of your people.....you can all hide this behind fake pan africanism or fake concerns for the continent . SA is that country that gives you people chestpains with all its troubles ....it pains you

This is a common trait of Black Africans. They're exceedingly selfish and hateful to their fellow Negroes. That's why they sold their own kind into Arab & Atlantic Slavery. That's why I will never live in a Black African dominated country again.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

IkePeters:



You Nigerians? What are you? A mexican.

It's not by making careless and sentimental statements. Go and research before making thoughtless responses/comments

These the 5 richest people in South Africa and only the 4th is a black man

1Johann Rupert
2.Nicky Oppenheimer & Family
3.Koos Bekker
4.Patrice Motsepe
5.Michiel le Roux

These are the 5 biggest corporations in South Africa. Please tell me how many are owned by black people

1 Naspers 1NPSNY $45.63 B
2 FirstRand 2FSR.JO $23.52 B
3 Capitec Bank 3I.JO $22.71 B
4 AngloGold Ashanti 4AU $22.55 B

ShopRite, Vodafone, Multi Choice are owned by whites

And you say am inflating the importance of White people? Really. The Whites own the economy of South Africa. It's Fact and not sentiments

Please before you put out baseless comments better have your facts right

49 Afrikaners leave the country and you claimed the country would collapse..
Based on what? Do you know their level of education, their profile, occupation, etc? No.. the country would collapse based on nothing than their skin colour. This is classic Nigerian reasoning and tendency to kiss white ass

Who owns the Nigerian economy again seeing not even your oil can get you out of your doldrums

Maysdevices:
While most of your comments are spot on and seem to be intelligent, you need to relax this notion about Nigerians hating your country

Most of us here don’t care about you or your country, we are too large and diverse and don’t even you exist beyond the last World Cup you hosted and will clap our hands for you if we hear anything good

You make generalizations just like Nigerians do about South Africans and accuse them of unintelligence when you are no different. Recognize you are a troll engaging trolls and perhaps try to touch some grass in real life

Look at Kingcold, take some examples from the way he engages Nigerian trolls and act like the intelligent person you claim to be

The bolded not true. According to Google, the most searched African country by Nigerians is infact South Africa.....and it shows to be honest

IbeOkehie:


This is a common trait of Black Africans. They're exceedingly selfish and hateful to their fellow Negroes. That's why they sold their own kind into Arab & Atlantic Slavery. That's why I will never live in a Black African dominated country again.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Your people are the ones who sold their own to slavery,and till today your people are still the leaders in human trafficking ( samething). Don't try to make this about * Africa * .

No one cares where you choose to live ,but what you'll always be is a Nigerian ....that's an identity you can never escape ...Nigerian is ingrained in your genes buddy . No amount of calling it names will wash that away.

America has it's own foundational blacks ....the ones who were part of developing it ....not the ones who came later dripping in inferiority complex trying to discredit them out of envy .

Lioness5280:

Your people are the ones who sold their own to slavery,and till today your people are still the leaders in human trafficking ( samething). Don't try to make this about * Africa * .

No one cares where you choose to live ,but what you'll always be is a Nigerian ....that's an identity you can never escape ...Nigerian is ingrained in your genes buddy . No amount of calling it names will wash that away.

America has it's own foundational blacks ....the ones who were part of developing it ....not the ones who came later dripping in inferiority complex trying to discredit them out of envy .

True, there's likely no history of slave trading among the native Blacks of South Africa. However it's clear why xenophobia is so rampant among them. They don't want to share the fruits of White economic development, that's the major point. Without the Whites of Southern Africa, those countries will be exactly like the rest of Africa. Black Africans tend to attain higher HDI and general socio-economic development when they live among Whites. The evidence is clear all over the Continent and the world.

Thanks anyway. I was expecting some deep rooted, evidence based argument. I mean, South Africa as a whole is getting poorer under Black African majority rule than it was in 1990, but of course that's not a convenient argument. Something as simple as maintaining Eskom is hard for dudu.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

IbeOkehie:


I would like to read it. Maybe there's some key words you need to avoid? In any case INFERIORITY AND SUPERIORITY exist in nature. Here's a little example -

Chinese people are generally shorter than Negroes. This is a GENETIC reality that technology hasn't yet been able to overcome.

Basketball is a sport in which HEIGHT is an advantage. It makes sense that there's more Blacks than Chinese in the USA National Basketball Association. There's no denigration is saying that Blacks are generally superior to Chinese in the sport of basketball.

At the same time, the Chinese man Yao Ming is taller than 95% of Blacks in this world...., Chinese are generally shorter than Blacks.

Exceptions make the rule. Black Americans were sold into slavery by their Black African brethren 500 years ago. Today Black Americans are the wealthiest, healthiest and best living Negroes on the planet...followed by the Black British and then South African Blacks. There's one glaring commonality that even the blind can FEEL.

Call it whatever you wish, the facts stand for themselves. Black South Africans don't want to share the fruits of White development with other Blacks and that's a very understandable instinct. Facts over Feelings.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

1. You make it sound like white people found black people idle to your self loathe .

White people didn't bring mining and farming to Africa and especially not SA; they found people doing those here . They hijacked those sectors at gunpoint....yes they have developed machineries to increase productivity,.....why wouldn't they have developed those when they had others chained so as to not develop and experiment further with what they were already engaged in. For instance the Bantu people were iron men ...that's what they used to protect themselves from genocide ( USA and Australian kind) and for mining . They developed those from their own resources ....now had they been un-interuputed by the criminals that later invaded Africa who knows what else they could have done .

2. There is no independent black country . I mean a country that controls it's own resources and reserve bank. So how do you think such countries would develop without developing at the pace and taste of those who control the resources?

Ofcourse they will make Blacks living in the countries you mentioned richer or generally above other blacks ...but they panick and devise ways of destroying them when they threaten to overtake them. When SA blacks started dominating middle class neighborhoods and having higher purchasing power than them ....then problems started in SA, borders were opened to allow in cheap labour and reduce the earnings of local Blacks. Drugs and n.g.os set up to defend the dealers . All the above and more are in USA and Brazil as well. So yes, they will want the Blacks well- off compared to other blacks from elsewhere but never above them.

3. Earlier you mentioned Zim. Who were their allies? African slave nations ? . The economy of Zim was strategically tied to that of the UK,so when Mugabe * started misbehaving * they cut them off and Zimbos had no one else to trade with apart from SA; because the rest of Africa turned their backs on them after cheering them on ....but do you blame them? Who would want to stand up and be counted against the West?

4. You also mentioned Asian countries with high HDI...you mean like Singapore, South Korea, Japan etc. Those are vessels of the West ...they have no real independence like Africa but their own leaders seem to have negotiated better deals for their people compared to us here in Africa or they fought fiercely sending fears to the West,so they had to *make them more comfortable to avoid a nasty rebellion that could threaten their standing * .

China though ,is definitely a country you could call an independent Asian country ....they definitely have a mind of their own.


5. Nope, black SA don't want to share a country with Blacks who think building a paved road is something only a white man can do when they.have built their own roads . We don't want to share a country with people who think running to ready made places is the destiny of black people. I could go on.

And yes, white people were the architects of SA and Nigeria too . No sentiments. But the actual development is the sweat of the black man. I know you desperately want to paint Blacks as the benefiaries of good white graces ...people who did nothing but had everything handed to them. That's because you are an immigrant over there and you had no role in what that country became so you need for all Blacks to feel like you feel . Nope. Those foundational Blacks over there are beneficiaries of their own sweat. No sentiments and no envy

Lionessza6:


LMAO. Yeah your comments sounded like comments who wished black SA well . You're bitter about SA and so are many of your people.....you can all hide this behind fake pan africanism or fake concerns for the continent . SA is that country that gives you people chestpains with all its troubles ....it pains you

that's what it boils down to

IbeOkehie:


True, there's likely no history of slave trading among the native Blacks of South Africa. However it's clear why xenophobia is so rampant among them. They don't want to share the fruits of White economic development, that's the major point. Without the Whites of Southern Africa, those countries will be exactly like the rest of Africa. Black Africans tend to attain higher HDI and general socio-economic development when they live among Whites. The evidence is clear all over the Continent and the world.

Thanks anyway. I was expecting some deep rooted, evidence based argument. I mean, South Africa as a whole is getting poorer under Black African majority rule than it was in 1990, but of course that's not a convenient argument. Something as simple as maintaining Eskom is hard for dudu.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Can you show me the proof that SA black government inherited a thriving economy ?


There was never any problem with Eskom....many of it's plants started buring down in freak accidents when a white man took over...surprise!! . For years it was doing just fine under Black SA management until a blue-eyed blonde took over and the rest is history. A black man took over again ....and guess what ....No more loadshedding ...miracle ? . No ,the blue eyed one was brought it in to get people to hate the ANC...he was brought in to usher in the coalition government we have now .

Nope ,without Whites those Southern African countries would have continued to develop their own agric and mining economies in their own and pace. And you probably would have continued selling each other off ( well ,you still do)


No wonder ,you people drown in the Mediterranean Sea trying to get to the white man . This is on another level of inferiority complex ...it's like you can't breathe without saying thanks to white people

God1000:


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/11/world/africa/white-south-africans-granted-refugee-status-by-trump-leave-for-us.html?

How many of them? They should stop being funny.

ultim:


How many of them? They should stop being funny.

49 and it made first page on a Nigerian forum

Lioness5280:


3. Earlier you mentioned Zim. Who were their allies? African slave nations ? grin. The economy of Zim was strategically tied to that of the UK,so when Mugabe * started misbehaving * they cut them off and Zimbos had no one else to trade with apart from SA; because the rest of Africa turned their backs on them after cheering them on grin....but do you blame them? Who would want to stand up and be counted against the West?

See, this is why I was telling one of my interlocutors on this forum that arguing with ignorant people is very tiring. You just proved it above. I'm not here to sling mud, denigrate or belittle anyone. I go with FACTS.

Zimbabwe's economy didn't crash solely because of sanctions. I was shocked to find out that PERSONAL PROPERTY rights were replaced with the kind of blanket government ownership that exists in other African countries. No country can build a thriving economy without respect for property rights. Never gonna happen.

I personally sympathize with the generally popular policy of taking back the lands stolen by the White settler and also know the consequences. Basically the Black Zimbabwean majority had to choose between socio-political dignity and economic stagnation....these things are up to those who have to live with the outcomes. They chose dignity and have gotten the expected results.

South Africa, Namibia and Botswana have chosen to maintain a strong White minority influence in the economies and again the result is as expected - the Blacks Africans in those countries are enjoying the highest living standards on the Dark Continent. That's the data. Anything else is sentiment.

Thanks for the conversation.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

IbeOkehie:


See, this is why I was telling one of my interlocutors on this forum that arguing with ignorant people is very tiring. You just proved it above. I'm not here to sling mud, denigrate or belittle anyone. I go with FACTS.

Zimbabwe's economy didn't crash solely because of sanctions. I personally sympathize with the generally popular policy of taking back the lands stolen by the White settlers but it had consequences. Basically the Black Zimbabwean majority had to choose between socio-political dignity and economic stagnation....these things are up to those who have to live with the outcomes. They chose dignity and have gotten the expected results.

South Africa, Namibia and Botswana have chosen to maintain a strong White minority influence in the economies and again the result is as expected - the Blacks Africans in those countries are enjoying the highest living standards on the Dark Continent. That's the data. Anything else is sentiment.

Thanks for the conversation.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

You didn't dispute anything I said though ...don't try to be smart by half here .


Did I say it was only sanctions that caused the Zim economy to collapse?


I said their economy was strategically tied to that of the UK, and the same is true for SA. Our biggest markets are Western economies . Why do you think the whites hate our BRICS involvement so much ?

BRICS has prioritized black SA entrepreneurs and they have opened their markets for us especially China. Why do you think the European Union is ing SA on the land issue ,why not back up their cousins like they did in Zim?. Why not Trump against the ANC?

SA is a major source of raw materials for them and we are now exploring our options away from their bondage ( where we have to partner with whites to get business in Europe ) Asia has not such expectations from us.

Zimbos never built relations with non-Africans before breaking away ,they thought African audio was enough . How can you depend on a fellow slave to escape your chains?. You need to look up to someone who has broken free already not someone who wishes to like you

And Botswana doesn't have a significant white population...I don't know where you got that from .

Lioness5280:



You didn't dispute anything I said though ...don't try to be smart by half here .


Did I say it was only sanctions that caused the Zim economy to collapse?


I said their economy was strategically tied to that of the UK, and the same is true for SA....most of our markets comes from the West . Why do you think the whites hate our BRICS involvement so much ?

BRICS has prioritized black SA entrepreneurs and they have opened their markets for us especially China. Why do you think the European Union is ing SA on the land issue ,why not back up their cousins like they did in Zim?. Why not Trump against the ANC?

SA is a major source of raw materials for them and we are now exploring our options away from their bandage ( where we have to partner with white to get business in Europe ) Asia has not such expectations from us.

Zimbos never built relations with non-Africans before breaking away ,they thought African audio was enough . How can you depend on a fellow slave to escape your chains?. You need to look up to someone who has broken free already not someone who wishes to like you

China isn't helping anyone. Listening to a trade & economics podcast about a month ago, I learned that China is practicing the kind of economics that the European colonial powers used to exploit the world - MERCANTILISM.

How come Zambia and Nigeria aren't prospering with all their Chinese help? And Niger Republic?

The ONLY way to build a thriving and developed economy is with FREE MARKETS. South Africa is doing better than the rest of Black Africa because the ANC and Black elite have generally retained the system of Anglo-Saxon free markets, floating currency and property rights. I've regularly traded the rand from my computer but never the naira. There's a reason why.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Lioness5280:




We know you smart hardworkers wish for that .....but you'll get more hungrier and poorer before we ever get any sanctions our way . And I'm sure you were that beautifully shaped head known for criminality on your shoulders ....the bitterness in your comments tells me so

Nah!!! I love S.A. You guys make Africa proud in some ways, and also disappoint Africa too. Such as fighting a country that understand Islam.
We have categorized you people as terror apologists.