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HelpYourself(m): 11:00am On Mar 21, 2021
How are you all? Trust your week went great?

Today I want to recap and delve deeper into the role of woman in creation.

Woman, womanhood , the partner of man, maidens ,lady every noble word has been coined to describe woman from time immemorial.

When I say woman I mean true womanhood not female. There is a difference, between female and Woman. Woman is a great title bestowed on the partner of man by God the father , it is a title she bares with honor, character and virtue it is a title to be respected.

Being female on the other hand means one bears the anatomy of a female creature like the XY chromosomes a vagina, narrow shoulders smaller gullet and pronounced breasts this is what makes one female.

In creation we have woman and man alpha the other beta (please do not take my words literally I always say a challenge I ha e is in describing spiritual things in human words)

Woman is the more powerful of the the two and I will explain my meaning. Woman who is the more hyper sensitive to spiritual and has a direct connection with all things spiritual unlike man who is meant to be active in spiritual things or else he looses the connection with God , with woman it isn't the same. Woman can easily communicate and connect with the spiritual by virtue of her role in creation childbirth and nurturer of life.

This is why I smile whenever someone asks me my thoughts on transgender and the likes , having physically made features of a female can never make one female.

A woman who lives up the the expectations of the title is like hurricane. She can unleash powers of protection and fury in her wrath, she holds great influence on the spiritual when she truly lives up to that status of true woman.

This is why before any society falls look at their women and study the change in their behavior and watch how it affected the entire kingdom or nation.

Go through history from time immemorial be it christian or muslim texts see how from the Roman empire to the Persona how as their women fell and allowed themselves to be degraded the society fell too.

This is no error because woman true women are a spiritual anchor in creation for spiritual power. A society of only men cannot thrive nor would it survive but a society of only true women would hence you have the history of the amazons.

A woman stands above man in all things spiritual this is why even in ancient times young men are cautioned in how to treat woman nobly.

When a woman lives as she should she aligns spiritual with the creator and her . A woman who lives aright, speaks nobly, a ts nobly and exhibits purest virtues stands as true woman in creation. Such a woman can never even inhabit the thought to self her body or engage in such crass things as voodoo or envy. A woman who lives in accordance with the laws of God is massively empowered spiritually by nature.

She has what the word refers to as feminity , she radiates true beauty and forces everyone around her to want to be on their best behavior. She radiates courage and her spirit aura is strong and powerful. The nature beings bow to her command naturally.

But today what we have is majorly females who have lost their way in what it means to be a woman. They try to use every artificial means to change themselves to fill that inner void they don't understand, some try to use the material things to fill it but no matter how much they have they just don't feel fulfilled.

Every society that has fallen is first preceeded by the fall of their women in character behavior and morals. It is no secret. This is why there are sayings like.behund every successful man is a woman. While on the surface one could dissect and strip the famous quote to suite whatever narrative I and simply telling you as it is and should be.

99% of any nation facing serious problems begins with how their women stand spiritually. The muslim nations know of this and try to use ridiculous laws to hold their women by force to higher standards but this while it may work for a while is unnatural and bound to fail after a while as witnessed in the Arab spring some.years ago.

Truth is simple.and devoid on complications and Manipulations. Anything is borne from falsehood. This is why anytime you see a man facing challenges the first thing to check is association with women around him both in this life and past lives.

This is why it is important who you marry as a man. And more importantly never make her tears touch the soil on which you toil. This is the beginning of alot of mens problems. Most women don't know the power they posses hence allow themselves be used as conduits for dark forces especially women who engage in immoral life styles and voodoo.

It is better you offend your fellow man than a woman , I am speaking to those men given to sexual escapades with different lovers, such men carry around with them several heavy spirit burdens which they can't untangle in one earth life and they don't know it.

A man came to me seeking peace and guidance and one of the conditions I asked him was can you stay celibate for 3 months he out right told me yes he can stay off his wife but he can't stay celibate for that long grin.

I never heard from him again. When I say fall of woman I didn't soley heap the blame on woman's heads no, the men played a major role in it but still to she whom much is given much is expected.

True womanhood shines like a beacon in a troubled sea, when a woman looses this she becomes a plaything to spiritual forces and a black hole and woe betide the man who engaged with her sexually. A woman whose womanliness is gone is like a house without doors windows or a gate yet there is a huge table of food and cash in the middle of the house for all the see , every single demon and earth stuck spirit will take refuge in her like a motel some will spend days some hours and some months they will go and come as they please.

Such a female will fall from deed to deed. This month you are complaining about how she cheated on her husband next month it might be how her husband's brother is having his way with her or next thing some rich man and his dogs.. my point is she will fall from deed to deed to deed the only limit will be dark spirit 's desire that's taken refuge in her.

She will find it easier and easier to do evil and she won't understand why herself.
Her emotions would be unstable and she would still not understand what she is doing in her eyes all will be justified. grin

She will be like a life boat lost at sea. Until she recognizes within herself what she has lost and begin to make amends. It is not by saying jesus is my saviour and suddenly she is washed clean no it doesn't work that way grin

She has to learn to stand on her own two feet spiritually, she had to learn to talk to God the father again, she has to take responsibility for her life and make deliberate choices to fix it, Piece by piece..

A woman can habor several demons daily around her person and outwardly you won't see any visible physical consequences, she may have a good job, good health etc but any man who crosses her path his entire life would be devasted by just don't of these numerous demons, this is how powerful women are spiritually.

I have seen a case of a grown man who abandoned his family, a wife and 4 grown graduate kids and Moved in with another lady in a different area. The man was convinced her loved this other lady infact he willed his property to her now when I got involved on behest of the wife it turned out the man was under a spell the other lady had attached to him by the lady intentionally to secure wealth , this is commonly done for Alfas for ladies or so called prophets / prophetesses given to unmarried women or younger women desperate for material wealth. They invoke the lesser demon named Bleep (Deleted demonology lecture).


This demon feeds off lust and sexual perversity and rewards the conduit with influence over the man , he is placed in a trance ike state and does whatever the woman wants. He becomes addicted to her and suffocates of oxygen when away from her. He comes to find his wife and kids irritating and may end up moving in with his mistress. Yes it happened and I have handled several cases like this.

So one must be careful and wary when indulging in your excesses.

We must as a society try to help our women elevate themselves back to their rightful position. We should only encourage nobility and discourage crass show of shame and objectification of women in our society.

I hope I have helped someone with this

As always I am available through the usual channels

Cheers

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Observer007(m): 11:30am On Mar 21, 2021
First off, you can't expect to be taken seriously with a moniker like that. Let's start from there.
HelpYourself(m): 11:38am On Mar 21, 2021
Observer007:
First off, you can't expect to be taken seriously with a moniker like that. Let's start from there.

grin

You are obviously new to my wittings welcome..

I have addressed this in the past writings but I will for your sake and other rnew readers.

I intentionally choose that name to keep.off religious fanatics and obssessive self righteous people.

Look around the world. Everywhere you look , you see names like daughter of zion son of light jesuschild jesusnggr jesus pikin daughterofjesus

Yet so much evil and they all act like their name is satanpikin grin

I want to only attract those who look beyond the sufface , people who are able to analyze and accept information not because I or some pastor says so but because they have thought for themselves .

Hence ether name

Cheers

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EdoFirstBorn(m): 12:03pm On Mar 21, 2021
Observer007:
First off, you can't expect to be taken seriously with a moniker like that. Let's start from there.

You are new here bah? grin

Baba don address this way back abeg shift make we read something

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Realtalk20: 12:06pm On Mar 21, 2021
OP sending your a DM pls respond asap
Davoneskay(m): 12:56pm On Mar 21, 2021
Hmm

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HelpYourself(m): 2:20pm On Mar 21, 2021
Davoneskay:
Women are truly portal to another world... a spiritual portal. I have always said it that women are more powerful than men in spiritual . Also @ Gofuckyourself, kindly write on the power of menstrual blood and male semen. I read somewhere that it has some secrets in the occult. Also, I need you to write on the power of sexual intercourse (love making) between partners who are truly in love. I read somewhere that it can be used by the females to reach KHAA... the 96% of the real universe. I couldn't fully grasp all these because the dictions used in those books can best be understood by science students and I'm not. Lastly, please, write on masturbation. So many people are in such bondage. I did this for over 13/14 years. It only stopped after some spiritual encounters. So many people think they can stop it via rehab but na deceit.
I hope I'm not asking for too much. I only want to hear you views. I would have chatted you up but you hardly respond timely to my messages. I know you're quite busy.
Gracias!

Okay good points and solid background I will definitely write on this

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HelpYourself(m): 2:21pm On Mar 21, 2021
Realtalk20:
OP sending your a DM pls respond asap

Sorry if it is for consultation today is for classes tomorrow all.thriugj to Saturday is for consultation

Thank you for understanding

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Realtalk20: 4:29pm On Mar 21, 2021
GofuckYourself:


Sorry if it is for consultation today is for classes tomorrow all.thriugj to Saturday is for consultation

Thank you for understanding

embarassed

What time tomorrow sir
HelpYourself(m): 5:26pm On Mar 21, 2021
Realtalk20:


embarassed

What time tomorrow sir

Just send me a DM with your number and the time that works for you and I will revert where adjustment is needed

Cheers

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Realtalk20: 6:32pm On Mar 21, 2021
GofuckYourself:


Just send me a DM with your number and the time that works for you and I will revert where adjustment is needed

Cheers

Done sir

Pls check ur mail
livebyday(m): 6:35pm On Mar 21, 2021
Good evening,

Very interesting topic indeed. Have wanted to comment on one of your topics for some time now but have been so busy.
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Anyways my question: what's your take on spirit wife and husband.
HelpYourself(m): 7:09pm On Mar 21, 2021
livebyday:
Good evening,

Very interesting topic indeed. Have wanted to comment on one of your topics for some time now but have been so busy.
.
Anyways my question: what's your take on spirit wife and husband.


grin

Funny enough I was asked this by someone recently who believed this was their affliction.

Let me state this clearly I don't know if it's for lack of a better word as I know it's often difficult explaining spiritual things in human words but going by the literal explanation of spirit husband and wife it is totally impossible.

But a woman can pick up an earth stuck spirit easily daily by virtue of her spiritual sensitivity which is the nature of true woman but this cannot in any way affect her ability to have a relationship with another man nor can except when the relationship has intentionally been targeted .
But I find most ladies or men who feel they are afflicted by a spirit spouse often are not in any relationship or they are unable to hold any intimate relationship with another for a length of time. This is not caused by any spirit spouse. There could be a number of reasons like but trust me spirit spouse is not the reason.

No amount of spiritual baths or charms or hexes can make a relationship that is unatueal stand the test of time. Such for ed relationships end eventually when the spell wears off with time.

Lots of people are experiencing difficulty in finding a partner for various reasons , some are due to karma from a past life others are just note sociable some just haven't mastered their selves enough while others haven't just met the right person.

This so called spirit spouse of thing is an elementary explanation to a deeper issue.

There are women afflicted with devourer demons. Any man she dates looses all his material wealth and his good fortune is fed upon by this demon.

Now this exists and isn't something curable with spiritual baths and such nonsense trivial tricks but that is a topic for another day .

And usually women afflicted with this demon don't know they are. It can be out in the lady without her knowledge or she picked it up by engaging with a man who is into demonology and again intentionally put it on her . Or the woman went to all.thrs Alfas for help and ventured into conjuring with one not so experienced and the demon attached itself to her without her knowledge..

Also certain demons are attracted to women born on certain dates by default due to such women having high spiritual strength aura which is very attractive to these demons like honey to bees but I can't go into details of that here because it will scare people

grin

But if you know how it's easy to identify suck women

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Davoneskay(m): 7:51pm On Mar 21, 2021
GofuckYourself:

Okay good points and solid background I will definitely write on this
Thanks so much.

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HelpYourself(m): 8:27pm On Mar 21, 2021
Davoneskay:


Thanks so much.

It is my.pleasure indeed

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Reverseng: 6:46am On Mar 05
Yes, you have helped someone with this lecture. Thank you smiley
Reverseng: 7:42pm On Mar 09
Sir please teach me how to identify such devourer women...make I become seer too cheesy
Even if na small


2) How would one cure affliction from a devourer spirit?
Apart from overhauling spirit aura( start doing the core things one hate and stop doing the core things that one love for 30 days straight)

3)[ 'Also certain demons are attracted to women born on certain dates by default due to such women having high spiritual strength aura which is very attractive to these demons like honey to bees but I can't go into details of that here because it will scare people'

A reply the up quote: the focus should be sharing the message, not the readiness of those who will receive the message

4) 'But a woman can pick up an earth stuck spirit easily daily by virtue of her spiritual sensitivity which is the nature of true woman'

I thought earth struck spirit look for addicts mostly and stay in haunted(attached) houses and properties
Earth struck spirit are mostly ' negative'. That's why they're called earth struck. Correct?

So a woman who lives truly can still attract negative spirit ?

5) 'No amount of spiritual baths or charms or hexes can make a relationship that is unatueal stand the test of time. Such for ed relationships end eventually when the spell wears off with time'

What of relationship between man and spirit beings exercising their free will. Like the origin of Merlin? Nephilims?

Cc: Helpyourself

HelpYourself:


grin

Funny enough I was asked this by someone recently who believed this was their affliction.

Let me state this clearly I don't know if it's for lack of a better word as I know it's often difficult explaining spiritual things in human words but going by the literal explanation of spirit husband and wife it is totally impossible.

But a woman can pick up an earth stuck spirit easily daily by virtue of her spiritual sensitivity which is the nature of true woman but this cannot in any way affect her ability to have a relationship with another man nor can except when the relationship has intentionally been targeted .
But I find most ladies or men who feel they are afflicted by a spirit spouse often are not in any relationship or they are unable to hold any intimate relationship with another for a length of time. This is not caused by any spirit spouse. There could be a number of reasons like but trust me spirit spouse is not the reason.

No amount of spiritual baths or charms or hexes can make a relationship that is unatueal stand the test of time. Such for ed relationships end eventually when the spell wears off with time.

Lots of people are experiencing difficulty in finding a partner for various reasons , some are due to karma from a past life others are just note sociable some just haven't mastered their selves enough while others haven't just met the right person.

This so called spirit spouse of thing is an elementary explanation to a deeper issue.

There are women afflicted with devourer demons. Any man she dates looses all his material wealth and his good fortune is fed upon by this demon.

Now this exists and isn't something curable with spiritual baths and such nonsense trivial tricks but that is a topic for another day .

And usually women afflicted with this demon don't know they are. It can be out in the lady without her knowledge or she picked it up by engaging with a man who is into demonology and again intentionally put it on her . Or the woman went to all.thrs Alfas for help and ventured into conjuring with one not so experienced and the demon attached itself to her without her knowledge..

Also certain demons are attracted to women born on certain dates by default due to such women having high spiritual strength aura which is very attractive to these demons like honey to bees but I can't go into details of that here because it will scare people

grin

But if you know how it's easy to identify suck women




HelpYourself(m): 4:19pm On May 06
Reverseng:
Sir please teach me how to identify such devourer women...make I become seer too cheesy
Even if na small


2) How would one cure affliction from a devourer spirit?
Apart from overhauling spirit aura( start doing the core things one hate and stop doing the core things that one love for 30 days straight)

3)[ 'Also certain demons are attracted to women born on certain dates by default due to such women having high spiritual strength aura which is very attractive to these demons like honey to bees but I can't go into details of that here because it will scare people'

A reply the up quote: the focus should be sharing the message, not the readiness of those who will receive the message

4) 'But a woman can pick up an earth stuck spirit easily daily by virtue of her spiritual sensitivity which is the nature of true woman'

I thought earth struck spirit look for addicts mostly and stay in haunted(attached) houses and properties
Earth struck spirit are mostly ' negative'. That's why they're called earth struck. Correct?

So a woman who lives truly can still attract negative spirit ?

5) 'No amount of spiritual baths or charms or hexes can make a relationship that is unatueal stand the test of time. Such for ed relationships end eventually when the spell wears off with time'

What of relationship between man and spirit beings exercising their free will. Like the origin of Merlin? Nephilims?

Cc: Helpyourself


Reach out to me via email i will arrange and one on one
elated177: 5:19pm On May 06
Helpyourself, a society that will fail, starts with the failure of the men. When men fail, the women follow closely. The survival of any society or environment spiritually is hinged on the man. The truth of the matter is that nature has designed the man to be right spiritual com to the woman. Anything contrary to this is an aberration.

Believe it or not, the spiritual authority of this world was handed over to the men. There is only one way that this "spiritual authority" can be taken away from the man. The "usurper" makes maximum use of the way that I am talking about.

Weak fathers breed very unbalanced children. Anyone who is observant enough knows this. Do I need to tell you what that means? Look at the society you are living in.
HelpYourself(m): 11:02am On May 07
elated177:
Helpyourself, a society that will fail, starts with the failure of the men. When men fail, the women follow closely. The survival of any society or environment spiritually is hinged on the man. The truth of the matter is that nature has designed the man to be right spiritual com to the woman. Anything contrary to this is an aberration.

Believe it or not, the spiritual authority of this world was handed over to the men. There is only one way that this "spiritual authority" can be taken away from the man. The "usurper" makes maximum use of the way that I am talking about.

Weak fathers breed very unbalanced children. Anyone who is observant enough knows this. Do I need to tell you what that means? Look at the society you are living in.

No you are wrong. Man is designed to be the mover, molder and breaker, hence soldiers, women are the spiritual anchor of any society. If you want to destroy any society weaken its women by fist weakening its men. A mans job is to protect the women from spiritual influences because once woman falls that society is done. why do you think most immoral alliances first get the buy in of the women before they take over ? Man is the sheild woman is the spiritual core.

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elated177: 10:42pm On May 07
HelpYourself, you are not as knowledgeable as you think you are in these matters. I am even resisting the urge to dissect the op and show you how wrong you truly are. However, just key points will suffice.

Let us look at your response to my first comment. If man was designed, according to you, to be the mover, molder and breaker, how, then, is he inferior to or below the woman?

Man embodies the spiritual authority of this world. He can lose it as well as get it back. Like I said earlier, there is one sure way that he can lose it to the usurper. However, he can always get it back if he desires. It is naturally and supernaturally in and on man to guide the woman on the right spiritual path. The usurper hates what man represents in this regard. He has consistently fought against it because he knows that it is the only way he can have the society the way he wants it. The truth is that you can't have the society unless the men allow you to. For you to do it, you must take that spiritual authority away.

In a society where women, for some reasons, rule spiritually, a lot of things go wrong. You know why? It is because nature abhors such. It is like an abomination. The woman is spiritually weaker than the man and is, therefore, easily prone to.the wiles of the evil one --- the usurper. It is only a man who is still connected to the spiritual authority, AS ORDAINED BY THE CREATOR, that will notice when his woman is being manipulated or influenced by the evil one and correct her. You now see why you should feel sorry for the men who are controlled by their wives.

The usurper knows that, in almost all the cases, he can't influence the men directly, so he goes through the women. It is not because the women are spiritual anchors or cores. Nope! It is because they are more susceptible to his antics and are also.ways to.their men's hearts. It is only a man of THE RIGHT SPIRITUAL STANDING and AUTHORITY that will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.


How will you be able to protect your woman from evil/negative spiritual influences, if you are not above her spiritually, helpyourself?

Women can't wield the spiritual authority in the society and things work out properly. Nature hasn't designed it so. It is aberration. It is not meant to be so. So, yes, if you want to destroy any society, weaken its men spiritually. The women and the children will just be there for the taking --- for the demonic vultures to prey upon. Helpyourself, take good look at the society that you are living in.
HelpYourself(m): 7:04am On May 08
elated177:
HelpYourself, you are not as knowledgeable as you think you are in these matters. I am even resisting the urge to dissect the op and show you how wrong you truly are. However, just key points will suffice.

Let us look at your response to my first comment. If man was designed, according to you, to be the mover, molder and breaker, how, then, is he inferior to or below the woman?

Man embodies the spiritual authority of this world. He can lose it as well as get it back. Like I said earlier, there is one sure way that he can lose it to the usurper. However, he can always get it back if he desires. It is naturally and supernaturally in and on man to guide the woman on the right spiritual path. The usurper hates what man represents in this regard. He has consistently fought against it because he knows that it is the only way he can have the society the way he wants it. The truth is that you can't have the society unless the men allow you to. For you to do it, you must take that spiritual authority away.

In a society where women, for some reasons, rule spiritually, a lot of things go wrong. You know why? It is because nature abhors such. It is like an abomination. The woman is spiritually weaker than the man and is, therefore, easily prone to.the wiles of the evil one --- the usurper. It is only a man who is still connected to the spiritual authority, AS ORDAINED BY THE CREATOR, that will notice when his woman is being manipulated or influenced by the evil one and correct her. You now see why you should feel sorry for the men who are controlled by their wives.

The usurper knows that, in almost all the cases, he can't influence the men directly, so he goes through the women. It is not because the women are spiritual anchors or cores. Nope! It is because they are more susceptible to his antics and are also.ways to.their men's hearts. It is only a man of THE RIGHT SPIRITUAL STANDING and AUTHORITY that will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.


How will you be able to protect your woman from evil/negative spiritual influences, if you are not above her spiritually, helpyourself?

Women can't wield the spiritual authority in the society and things work out properly. Nature hasn't designed it so. It is aberration. It is not meant to be so. So, yes, if you want to destroy any society, weaken its men spiritually. The women and the children will just be there for the taking --- for the demonic vultures to prey upon. Helpyourself, take good look at the society that you are living in.

grin
I never used the word 'beneath' or 'below'—you did. Your flawed understanding of the spiritual causes you to ascribe hierarchy where none is needed. You seek to place one above the other when the true purpose is to serve creation. You demonstrate little understanding of spirituality and try to justify a flawed logic of hierarchy that places woman beneath man. Man is not above woman, just as woman is not above man. Woman is the spiritual anchor; man is the molder.

Unfortunately, many men today have become so corrupted that they seek to become women, and such corrupted spiritual auras give rise to aberrations like homosexuality or twisted forms of dominance—neither of which are necessary in the order of creation.

You need to first of all seek to learn the basic principles in creation and understand why you are here, stop concerning yourself with the whole, first start with the you, when you have corrected this flaw then slowly your knowledge would start to expand as you mature spiritually.

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elated177: 9:54am On May 08
Like this thread of yours wasn't created to establish exactly what you accused me of --- place women above men spiritually! Your intention is to twist and alter the reality.

Helpyourself, I didn't place men above women spiritually. The Creator himself did. Both the natural and the supernatural did. I am only stating it as it is. Men and women are not equal spiritually. There is what is called SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY on this earth. The SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY lies with the man.

When I have the time, I will look further into your op and dissect it and show you how flawed it is.

However, I know that you have learnt some new things from our discourse so far.
HelpYourself(m): 10:43am On May 08
elated177:
Like this thread of yours wasn't created to establish exactly what you accused me of --- place women above men spiritually! Your intention is to twist and alter the reality.

Helpyourself, I didn't place men above women spiritually. The Creator himself did. Both the natural and the supernatural did. I am only stating it as it is. Men and women are not equal spiritually. There is what is called SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY on this earth. The SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY lies with the man.

When I have the time, I will look further into your op and dissect it and show you how flawed it is.

However, I know that you have learnt some new things from our discourse so far.

Again you are flawed in your understanding smiley The creator never placed men above women you did and you are projecting that assumption as reality but it all is only your own reality not what is.

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correctguy101(m): 12:46pm On May 08
HelpYourself:


Again you are flawed in your understanding smiley The creator never placed men above women you did and you are projecting that assumption as reality but it all is only your own reality not what is.

The patriarchs and their descendants wouldn't agree...

This ancestor holds the same views as you on this matter...
graced21: 12:48pm On May 11
HelpYourself:


Again you are flawed in your understanding smiley The creator never placed men above women you did and you are projecting that assumption as reality but it all is only your own reality not what is.
good morning sir
Please I need your number,I have spiritual issues that I want you to help me work on, please it's urgent
HelpYourself(m): 1:00pm On May 11
graced21:
good morning sir
Please I need your number,I have spiritual issues that I want you to help me work on, please it's urgent

i have replied your email
graced21: 1:19pm On May 11
HelpYourself:


i have replied your email
thanks alot sir
I will you as I have seen your number through past messages that we exchaned
HelpYourself(m): 1:22pm On May 11
graced21:
thanks alot sir
I will you as I have seen your number through past messages that we exchaned

You are most welcome
elated177: 6:45pm On May 12
Helpyourself, I can't even respond to you without ban.
elated177: 6:46pm On May 12
I will try again later.

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