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From the last Ramadan to today, I have been following what's happening in some western countries, but I just can't help but ask these few questions.

1)Why is it that during Ramadan, if Muslims sees their neighbours or friends eating, they tend to get irritated and cursing the person for not fasting. Then in some Muslims countries or areas, you tend to force people not to eat in public and close down restaurants.?
You guys usually say there is no compulsion on Islam.

2)Why is it that when you go to countries that are not islamic country, as your number grows, you guys tend to impose your laws and religion on the locals. Why can't you respect each other, practice your religion in your home than forcing it down the throats of your host.?

3)Lots of Muslims are committing atrocities all around the globe in the name of Islam.. You claim it's the extremists doing it, but the vast majority of Muslims who are not extremists will not speak up against those atrocities?

4)Here in Nigeria, after ECOWAS called for the absolution of blasphemy in western African countries, we saw some Muslims on Nigeria shouting that anyone who insults the prophet will be k:!!£d, the noise was all over social media, but we never saw any Muslim come out to refute them and saw that such k:!!:ng is against the teaching of Islam.

Plz no insults and attacks.

I just need a sound explanation to the above questions that I asked.

You want Muslims to answer all these and you don't want insults and attacks right

RightChanneI:
You want Muslims to answer all these and you don't want insults and attacks right

Why should the answer come with insults.

Moon worshippers won't say Anything

Rich4god:
From the last Ramadan to today, I have been following what's happening in some western countries, but I just can't help but ask these few questions.

1)Why is it that during Ramadan, if Muslims sees their neighbours or friends eating, they tend to get irritated and cursing the person for not fasting. Then in some Muslims countries or areas, you tend to force people not to eat in public and close down restaurants.?
You guys usually say there is no compulsion on Islam.

Of course it's nromal for a Muslim to get irritated seeing a non-Muslim eating during the month Ramadan! The way we hope to be itted to Paradise is what we wish for our neighbors too. And in Muslims countries states, the law is Shariah and no stone must be unturned to make the Shariah prevail. Eating in public in Muslim regions is like mocking those fasting! Even Muslims that are permitted NOT to fast too shouldn't eat in public!

2)Why is it that when you go to countries that are not islamic country, as your number grows, you guys tend to impose your laws and religion on the locals. Why can't you respect each other, practice your religion in your home than forcing it down the throats of your host.?

I don't really know where this happened, i mean where Islamic law is forced on indigenes by immigrants. Usually the Islamic law is used by the immigrants and among themselves. But ultimately we want the same paradise for the locals.

3)Lots of Muslims are committing atrocities all around the globe in the name of Islam.. You claim it's the extremists doing it, but the vast majority of Muslims who are not extremists will not speak up against those atrocities?

What does speaking up do? What is appropriate is to educate ourselves particularly our kids in the best way! And what you call "Lots of Muslims" are still minute in percentages of Muslims.

4)Here in Nigeria, after ECOWAS called for the absolution of blasphemy in western African countries, we saw some Muslims on Nigeria shouting that anyone who insults the prophet will be k:!!£d, the noise was all over social media, but we never saw any Muslim come out to refute them and saw that such k:!!:ng is against the teaching of Islam.

ECOWAS can't influence Islam. Even ECOWAS can't influence a miliatary state like Burkina Faso, Republic of Niger and co. Blasphemy laws are well established in Islam and only a Shariah court judge could make the final pronouncement in its case!

Entusky:
Moon worshippers won't say Anything

Who are the moon worshippers, liar?

Rich4god:


Why should the answer come with insults.

And u don see answer ba?

AntiChristian:


Who are the moon worshippers, liar?

Can you tell us the name of the three daughters of Hubal?

TenQ:

Can you tell us the name of the three daughters of Hubal?

Didn't you see them where you learnt them?

You never tire of this rhetoric?

AntiChristian:


Didn't you see them where you learnt them?

You never tire of this rhetoric?

Are you afraid of the answer?

I asked you for the names of the three daughters of Hubal?

If you won't answer this, according to Islamic history, who is Hubal?

TenQ:

Are you afraid of the answer?

I asked you for the names of the three daughters of Hubal?

If you won't answer this, according to Islamic history, who is Hubal?

You and others here have asked several times in your useless threads. And you've been answered.

I don't need to answer stupid questions any longer!

AntiChristian:


You and others here have asked several times in your useless threads. And you've been answered.

I don't need to answer stupid questions any longer!

Please tell me exactly when you answered the questions

1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!


I await the link to when you answered the questions OR you kuku answer them for me.

TenQ:

Please tell me exactly when you answered the questions

1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!


I await the link to when you answered the questions OR you kuku answer them for me.

You have your own holy spirit revealed idea about this topic already so tell us so I can show everyone here that the holy spirit either is a liar or does not exist!

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Thank you for raising your concerns. These are important questions, and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify and provide perspective.

1. On eating in public during Ramadan and the claim of compulsion in Islam:
Indeed, Islam teaches that “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256). Fasting during Ramadan is an obligation for Muslims who are physically and mentally capable, but it is not something to be imposed on non-Muslims or those exempt. Unfortunately, in some Muslim-majority societies, cultural practices and religious expectations can become intertwined with legal or social norms, leading to enforcement that does not reflect the spirit of Islam. It's important to distinguish between cultural enforcement and Islamic teachings. Irritation or cursing others for not fasting is not condoned by Islamic ethics, which emphasize patience, respect, and leading by example.

2. On Muslims in non-Muslim countries and integration:
Muslims, like followers of any other faith, have a right to practice their religion peacefully, even in countries where they are a minority. Practicing one’s religion publicly—such as wearing religious attire or requesting halal food options—is not the same as imposing beliefs. In most cases, Muslims seek only the freedom to live in accordance with their faith while respecting local laws and cultures. In pluralistic societies, mutual respect and dialogue are essential. Any effort to impose religious laws on others without consent contradicts both Islamic principles and democratic values.

3. On extremism and the silence of the majority:
It is a misconception that the majority of Muslims remain silent in the face of extremism. Many Muslim scholars, organizations, and individuals across the world have publicly condemned terrorism and violence carried out in the name of Islam. However, these condemnations are often underreported by mainstream media. Extremist actions represent a distortion of Islamic teachings, and it is unfair to judge a global faith followed by over a billion people by the actions of a radical few.

4. On reactions to blasphemy in Nigeria and elsewhere:
Blasphemy is a sensitive topic in many religious traditions, including Islam. While some individuals respond with hostility, this is not representative of the religion's teachings. Islam encourages respectful disagreement and patience. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself endured insults with tolerance and dignity. Calls for violence are not only un-Islamic but also illegal and counterproductive. It is the responsibility of scholars, leaders, and communities to speak against such incitement, and many have done so, though again, these voices may not always be amplified.

In conclusion, the actions of some individuals or groups should not be seen as representative of an entire faith. Just as no religion is free from those who misinterpret or misuse its teachings, the same applies to Islam. Mutual understanding, open dialogue, and a commitment to justice are essential steps forward.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

CreativeOrbit:
Thank you for raising your concerns. These are important questions, and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify and provide perspective.

1. On eating in public during Ramadan and the claim of compulsion in Islam:
Indeed, Islam teaches that “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256). Fasting during Ramadan is an obligation for Muslims who are physically and mentally capable, but it is not something to be imposed on non-Muslims or those exempt. Unfortunately, in some Muslim-majority societies, cultural practices and religious expectations can become intertwined with legal or social norms, leading to enforcement that does not reflect the spirit of Islam. It's important to distinguish between cultural enforcement and Islamic teachings. Irritation or cursing others for not fasting is not condoned by Islamic ethics, which emphasize patience, respect, and leading by example.

2. On Muslims in non-Muslim countries and integration:
Muslims, like followers of any other faith, have a right to practice their religion peacefully, even in countries where they are a minority. Practicing one’s religion publicly—such as wearing religious attire or requesting halal food options—is not the same as imposing beliefs. In most cases, Muslims seek only the freedom to live in accordance with their faith while respecting local laws and cultures. In pluralistic societies, mutual respect and dialogue are essential. Any effort to impose religious laws on others without consent contradicts both Islamic principles and democratic values.

3. On extremism and the silence of the majority:
It is a misconception that the majority of Muslims remain silent in the face of extremism. Many Muslim scholars, organizations, and individuals across the world have publicly condemned terrorism and violence carried out in the name of Islam. However, these condemnations are often underreported by mainstream media. Extremist actions represent a distortion of Islamic teachings, and it is unfair to judge a global faith followed by over a billion people by the actions of a radical few.

4. On reactions to blasphemy in Nigeria and elsewhere:
Blasphemy is a sensitive topic in many religious traditions, including Islam. While some individuals respond with hostility, this is not representative of the religion's teachings. Islam encourages respectful disagreement and patience. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself endured insults with tolerance and dignity. Calls for violence are not only un-Islamic but also illegal and counterproductive. It is the responsibility of scholars, leaders, and communities to speak against such incitement, and many have done so, though again, these voices may not always be amplified.

In conclusion, the actions of some individuals or groups should not be seen as representative of an entire faith. Just as no religion is free from those who misinterpret or misuse its teachings, the same applies to Islam. Mutual understanding, open dialogue, and a commitment to justice are essential steps forward.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

Thanks for this writeup.

It represents exactly what moderate Muslims would want the rest of us to believe and not the reality of what happens when Muslims are in power or are the majority.

Secondly, it is impossible to deny that examples of harsh misbehaviours of Muslims to others abound in the Sunah of your prophet.

Strictly following the Sunah of your prophet results into the intolerance we see in Islam except if you reject following the traditions of your prophet (which goes against the Qur'an).

Thus , a peaceful Muslim is torn between being peaceful and obeying Allah because they go against each other.

AntiChristian:


You have your own holy spirit revealed idea about this topic already so tell us so I can show everyone here that the holy spirit either is a liar or does not exist!

This is Islamic history and not bible lessons bro.


1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am still waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!

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Repeating “Islam is cursed” like a broken record doesn’t make it true—it just exposes your ignorance and desperation for attention. If you had anything intelligent to say, you would’ve said it by now.

Islam has stood strong for over 1,400 years, shaping civilizations, inspiring billions, and surviving far more powerful enemies than some keyboard warrior spewing hate.

You don’t like Islam? Fine. But if you want to challenge it, come with facts, not brainless repetition. Until then, sit down—you're not ready for this conversation.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

TenQ:

Please tell me exactly when you answered the questions

1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!


I await the link to when you answered the questions OR you kuku answer them for me.

1. In pre-Islamic Arabian belief systems, al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt were three prominent goddesses. However, there is no authentic Islamic source or historical evidence directly linking them as literal "daughters of Hubal." This association stems from pre-Islamic mythologies and interpretations that Islam later rejected as false.

2. Hubal was a major idol worshipped by some Arab tribes in pre-Islamic Mecca. He was placed in the Kaaba and considered a central figure in idol worship. With the advent of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) cleansed the Kaaba of all idols, including Hubal, restoring it to the pure monotheism of Abraham. In Islam, Hubal and similar idols are seen as symbols of the ignorance (Jāhiliyyah) that Islam came to end.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

TenQ:

Thanks for this writeup.

It represents exactly what moderate Muslims would want the rest of us to believe and not the reality of what happens when Muslims are in power or are the majority.

Secondly, it is impossible to deny that examples of harsh misbehaviours of Muslims to others abound in the Sunah of your prophet.

Strictly following the Sunah of your prophet results into the intolerance we see in Islam except if you reject following the traditions of your prophet (which goes against the Qur'an).

Thus , a peaceful Muslim is torn between being peaceful and obeying Allah because they go against each other.

Thank you for your response. While I understand your concerns, I must respectfully clarify several points.

First, the claim that peaceful conduct by Muslims is only a façade until they become a majority is a sweeping generalization not ed by the diversity of Muslim-majority societies across the world. Countries like Indonesia, Senegal, Albania, and others with Muslim majorities are known for religious tolerance and coexistence. Power or majority status does not inherently lead to oppression—political, cultural, and historical factors often play a more decisive role than religion alone.

Second, the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) does not promote intolerance. On the contrary, it is rich with examples of mercy, restraint, and respect for others—Muslim and non-Muslim alike. The Prophet entered Mecca with the power to exact revenge but chose to forgive even his staunchest enemies, saying, “Go, for you are free.” He lived peacefully alongside Jews and Christians, established treaties with non-Muslim tribes, and strictly forbade harming civilians, clergy, or places of worship in warfare.

Yes, there are firm rulings in the Sunnah, especially related to justice, law, and social order—but these must be understood in context, not selectively cited without the surrounding ethical and historical background.

To suggest that a peaceful Muslim is “torn” between peace and obedience to Allah is a false dichotomy. Islam commands both justice and mercy. The Qur’an repeatedly instructs Muslims to act with kindness, to repel evil with good, and to be just even toward those they dislike (Qur’an 5:8, 41:34).

In conclusion, extremism and intolerance are not products of sincere Islamic practice, but of ignorance, manipulation, or political misuse of religion—a reality acknowledged by Muslims themselves and actively addressed by scholars and communities worldwide.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

TenQ:

This is Islamic history and not bible lessons bro.


1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am still waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!

So holy spirit does not possess Islamic knowledge?
Tell us what the holy spirit teaches you about what you asked first.

I would like to correct the holy spirit.

I even doubt you have any atom of holy spirit in you!

TenQ:

This is Islamic history and not bible lessons bro.


1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?


I am still waiting because neither you or any Muslim have answered these questions!

Hubal was one of the main idols worshipped by the Quraysh and was located in the Kaʿbah in Makkah. His exact origins are a bit of a mystery, but some scholars think he might have come from Syria, possibly with Nabataean or Aramaic connections. This idol was crafted from red agate and had a broken arm, which the Quraysh replaced with a golden one. People would consult Hubal for divination, using arrows much like casting lots.

Hubal wasn't seen as the creator god or the ultimate deity in a strictly monotheistic way. Instead, he fit into a henotheistic or polytheistic framework where Allah was recognized as the supreme god, but people would turn to intermediaries like Hubal for guidance or protection.

CreativeOrbit:
1. In pre-Islamic Arabian belief systems, al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt were three prominent goddesses. However, there is no authentic Islamic source or historical evidence directly linking them as literal "daughters of Hubal." This association stems from pre-Islamic mythologies and interpretations that Islam later rejected as false.

The fact that the pre-Islamic Arabs stated that the three daughters of Hubal are al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt is already HISTORY and because they existed before Islam, Islam cannot reject them. Any notion of rejecting these history is weak attempts to rewrite history.

Check even Islamic sources about Abdul Mutalib and you will find out that Hubal is aka Allah: the difference is that Hubal is represented by an image in the Kaaba while Allah is not.

CreativeOrbit:

2. Hubal was a major idol worshipped by some Arab tribes in pre-Islamic Mecca. He was placed in the Kaaba and considered a central figure in idol worship. With the advent of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) cleansed the Kaaba of all idols, including Hubal, restoring it to the pure monotheism of Abraham. In Islam, Hubal and similar idols are seen as symbols of the ignorance (Jāhiliyyah) that Islam came to end.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

This is true.

However, how is it that the exact names of the daughters of Hubal is the exact names of the daughters of Allah?

Isn't it another proof that Hubal is a synonym for Allah?


Secondly, I do not think that Islam came to restore a pure monotheism. Islam came to UNIFY the objects of worship into one name called Allah.

Otherwise,
1. What is the exact meaning of Ahad?
2. What is the exact meaning of Taoheed?

Neither mean ONE!

CreativeOrbit:
Thank you for your response. While I understand your concerns, I must respectfully clarify several points.

First, the claim that peaceful conduct by Muslims is only a façade until they become a majority is a sweeping generalization not ed by the diversity of Muslim-majority societies across the world. Countries like Indonesia, Senegal, Albania, and others with Muslim majorities are known for religious tolerance and coexistence. Power or majority status does not inherently lead to oppression—political, cultural, and historical factors often play a more decisive role than religion alone.

You say this because as a Muslim, you have never experienced marginalisation by Muslims as I have.

Except you don't believe in the verse
Qur'an 9:29
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture- [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."

Is this not the instructions of Allah?

CreativeOrbit:

Second, the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) does not promote intolerance. On the contrary, it is rich with examples of mercy, restraint, and respect for others—Muslim and non-Muslim alike. The Prophet entered Mecca with the power to exact revenge but chose to forgive even his staunchest enemies, saying, “Go, for you are free.” He lived peacefully alongside Jews and Christians, established treaties with non-Muslim tribes, and strictly forbade harming civilians, clergy, or places of worship in warfare.

Yes, there are firm rulings in the Sunnah, especially related to justice, law, and social order—but these must be understood in context, not selectively cited without the surrounding ethical and historical background.

You paint Prophet Mohammad as so nice but your religious books say the exact opposite. Yes, why should he kill his own people of Mecca after his victory?
But that didn't say he didn't kill anyone such as Abdullah ibn Khatal and Miqyas bin Sababa.

Prophet Mohammad killed over 700 men and boys of the Banu Qurayza tribe who Surrendered to his mercy after his siege against them when he concluded the battle of the Trench. These people even helped him did the trenches but their offence was that they didn't him in battle against his enemies. Even if there was betrayal as claimed by Muslims, justice required that the offenders be fished out and punished.

This clearly showed how merciful he was.

You recite the Al-Fathiha at least five times a day, and your prayers is against Christians and Jews. Those who are under the curse of Allah and those who have missed the way.. Is this not the origin of the problem!?

CreativeOrbit:

To suggest that a peaceful Muslim is “torn” between peace and obedience to Allah is a false dichotomy. Islam commands both justice and mercy. The Qur’an repeatedly instructs Muslims to act with kindness, to repel evil with good, and to be just even toward those they dislike (Qur’an 5:8, 41:34).

In conclusion, extremism and intolerance are not products of sincere Islamic practice, but of ignorance, manipulation, or political misuse of religion—a reality acknowledged by Muslims themselves and actively addressed by scholars and communities worldwide.

Rich4god RightChannel Entusky TenQ AntiChristian

Yes, a peaceful Muslim is torn between obeying Allah, obeying the Sunah and loving his neighbour.

Qur'an 5:51
"O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as friends (awliyaa). They are [in fact] friends of one another. And whoever among you takes them as friends, then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."

Should you take me as a friend against the clear teachings of Qur'an 5:51 ?


This is the problem of peaceful Muslims!

AntiChristian:


So holy spirit does not possess Islamic knowledge?
Tell us what the holy spirit teaches you about what you asked first.

I would like to correct the holy spirit.

I even doubt you have any atom of holy spirit in you!

Why is it that Muslims block their ears to the Truth

1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?

honesttalk21:

Hubal was one of the main idols worshipped by the Quraysh and was located in the Kaʿbah in Makkah. His exact origins are a bit of a mystery, but some scholars think he might have come from Syria, possibly with Nabataean or Aramaic connections. This idol was crafted from red agate and had a broken arm, which the Quraysh replaced with a golden one. People would consult Hubal for divination, using arrows much like casting lots.

Hubal wasn't seen as the creator god or the ultimate deity in a strictly monotheistic way. Instead, he fit into a henotheistic or polytheistic framework where Allah was recognized as the supreme god, but people would turn to intermediaries like Hubal for guidance or protection.

To a large extent true, except that

The fact that the pre-Islamic Arabs stated that the three daughters of Hubal are al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt are the exact three daughters of Allah.

Islamic sources about Abdul Mutalib show that Hubal is aka Allah: the difference is that Hubal is represented by an image in the Kaaba while Allah is not.


Yes, I am aware that Islam claims that the pre-Islamic Arabs bastardised the true worship of Allah by including other deities, unfortunately, there is not one iota of pre-Islamic history or archaeology that shows this.

Looking at the Islamic history of Abdul Mutalib, the conclusion would be that Hubal is the idol form of Allah because both of them were the Lord of the Kaaba. A sacrifice to Hubal is a sacrifice to Allah. Islam came to UNIFY worship in the Kaaba under Allah alone.

TenQ:

You say this because as a Muslim, you have never experienced marginalisation by Muslims as I have.

Except you don't believe in the verse
Qur'an 9:29
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture- [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."

Is this not the instructions of Allah?



You paint Prophet Mohammad as so nice but your religious books say the exact opposite. Yes, why should he kill his own people of Mecca after his victory?
But that didn't say he didn't kill anyone such as Abdullah ibn Khatal and Miqyas bin Sababa.

Prophet Mohammad killed over 700 men and boys of the Banu Qurayza tribe who Surrendered to his mercy after his siege against them when he concluded the battle of the Trench. These people even helped him did the trenches but their offence was that they didn't him in battle against his enemies. Even if there was betrayal as claimed by Muslims, justice required that the offenders be fished out and punished.

This clearly showed how merciful he was.

You recite the Al-Fathiha at least five times a day, and your prayers is against Christians and Jews. Those who are under the curse of Allah and those who have missed the way.. Is this not the origin of the problem!?



Yes, a peaceful Muslim is torn between obeying Allah, obeying the Sunah and loving his neighbour.

Qur'an 5:51
"O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as friends (awliyaa). They are [in fact] friends of one another. And whoever among you takes them as friends, then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed, Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."

Should you take me as a friend against the clear teachings of Qur'an 5:51 ?


This is the problem of peaceful Muslims!

Thank you for sharing your concerns. I understand that your views stem from personal experiences and certain interpretations of Islamic texts, and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify and respond.

Firstly, regarding marginalisation, I do not deny that individuals can experience mistreatment at the hands of people from any group—including Muslims. However, it is important to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the teachings of a faith. Islam, like other major religions, is not immune to misrepresentation or abuse by its followers. If you were wronged by Muslims, I sincerely regret that and pray for justice and healing. However, this should not serve as a blanket judgment on the religion itself or on Muslims who strive to live ethically and peacefully.

Now, regarding your interpretation of specific Qur’anic verses and historical events, I would like to address them one by one:

1. Qur’an 9:29

This verse is often quoted without historical and textual context. It was revealed in a time of war and political tension between the early Muslim community and the Byzantine Empire. It is not a blanket command to kill non-Muslims. The term "jizyah" refers to a historical tax that exempted non-Muslims from military service, while Muslims were obligated to fight in defense of the state and pay zakat. The verse addresses hostile combatants, not peaceful coexistence. Islam has a long record of religious tolerance—as demonstrated in Muslim-ruled Spain and the Ottoman Empire.

2. Prophet Muhammad’s actions

You cited the execution of individuals like Abdullah ibn Khatal. These individuals were not targeted simply for being non-Muslims but were guilty of severe crimes, such as treason, murder, and inciting violence against Muslims during wartime. Even modern legal systems prescribe capital punishment for treason in times of war.

As for Banu Qurayza, historical sources, including non-Muslim historians, confirm that their leadership broke a critical treaty during a time of existential threat to the Muslim community (Battle of the Trench). The punishment—carried out by a Jewish arbitrator chosen by the Banu Qurayza themselves (Sa’d ibn Mu’adh)—was consistent with the Jewish law of the Torah (Deuteronomy 20:10-14), which they abided by.

3. Al-Fatiha and "those who have gone astray"

This is a common misunderstanding. Al-Fatiha is a supplication to be guided on the straight path—not a condemnation of any particular group. Classical Islamic scholars interpreted “those who have earned anger” and “those who went astray” as types of behavior, not ethnic or religious identities. Moreover, the Qur’an explicitly affirms the validity of previous scriptures (e.g., Qur’an 2:62), and Prophet Muhammad lived peacefully with Christians and Jews in Medina.

4. Qur’an 5:51 – 'Do not take Jews and Christians as awliyaa'

The word awliyaa has various meanings: protectors, political allies, guardians. It is not a blanket prohibition on friendship. Many scholars agree that this verse refers specifically to political alliances in contexts of conflict, where loyalty to justice and ethical conduct must not be compromised. The Qur’an elsewhere encourages kindness and justice toward non-Muslims who are not hostile (Qur’an 60::

"Allah does not forbid you from being kind and just toward those who have not fought you because of your religion..."

Conclusion

Islam does not ask Muslims to hate or harm non-Muslims. It calls for justice, comion, and peaceful coexistence. Any verse or historical event must be interpreted in its proper context—linguistically, historically, and ethically. A true Muslim is not torn between loving his neighbor and being faithful to God; rather, loving and respecting others is a part of his faith.

If peaceful Muslims are the "problem" in your view, then I respectfully suggest that perhaps the issue lies not with Islam itself, but with how it is being misunderstood.

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The fact that the pre-Islamic Arabs stated that the three daughters of Hubal are al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt is already HISTORY and because they existed before Islam, Islam cannot reject them. Any notion of rejecting these history is weak attempts to rewrite history.

Check even Islamic sources about Abdul Mutalib and you will find out that Hubal is aka Allah: the difference is that Hubal is represented by an image in the Kaaba while Allah is not.


This is true.

However, how is it that the exact names of the daughters of Hubal is the exact names of the daughters of Allah?

Isn't it another proof that Hubal is a synonym for Allah?


Secondly, I do not think that Islam came to restore a pure monotheism. Islam came to UNIFY the objects of worship into one name called Allah.

Otherwise,
1. What is the exact meaning of Ahad?
2. What is the exact meaning of Taoheed?

Neither mean ONE!

Thank you for sharing your perspective. However, your argument contains several misunderstandings—both historical and linguistic—that need clarification.

1. Pre-Islamic Deities and Islamic Rejection

Yes, the pre-Islamic Arabs worshipped al-Lāt, al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt. They were considered daughters of their chief deity. However, Islam did not inherit or accept this belief—it explicitly rejected it. The Qur’an directly confronts this myth in Surah An-Najm (53:19–23):

“Have you considered al-Lāt and al-‘Uzzā, and Manāt, the third, the other? Are you to have the males and He the females? That is indeed an unfair division. These are but names you have named…”

Far from adopting these deities, Islam denounced them as human fabrications. The existence of these names before Islam is not evidence of continuity; it's the very error Islam came to correct.

2. Hubal and Allah Are Not the Same

The claim that Hubal is another name for Allah is historically inaccurate. Hubal was a pagan idol placed in the Kaaba by the Quraysh. In contrast, "Allah" was known before Islam as the name of the supreme Creator God—even among pagan Arabs.

The Qur’an acknowledges this in several places:

“If you ask them who created the heavens and the earth, they will surely say ‘Allah.’” (Qur’an 31:25)

Islam rejected the idols besides Allah—not Allah Himself. Abdul Muttalib, the Prophet’s grandfather, may have acknowledged Allah, but like many pre-Islamic Arabs, he practiced shirk (association of partners). Islam came to correct that deviation—not to continue it.

3. Daughters of Allah? A Refuted Claim

The Qur’an is clear: Allah has no offspring. Associating daughters (or sons) with Him is categorically rejected:

“He neither begets nor is born.” (Qur’an 112:3)
“And they attribute to Allah daughters—exalted is He!—and to themselves what they desire.” (Qur’an 16:57)

The resemblance of names (al-Lāt, etc.) does not imply equivalence or continuity. These were the names of pagan goddesses—Islam denounced both their names and their worship.

4. Tawheed and Ahad

Your linguistic claim is mistaken.

"Ahad" (أَحَد) in Qur’an 112:1 means “One and Only”—a unique singularity that excludes all plurality, unlike the ordinary word "Wāhid" (واحد), which can be used in numerals.

"Tawheed" (توحيد) means affirming oneness—derived from the verb waḥḥada, “to unify” or “declare one.” In theology, it refers not to combining many gods into one, but to declaring that only one God exists, with no partners, equals, or intermediaries.

Tawheed is not about merging objects of worship—it is about eliminating all others and affirming only Allah as the true God.

Conclusion

Islam did not evolve from paganism; it came to erase it. Islam affirms pure monotheism, not by inheriting pre-Islamic concepts, but by purifying them. Associating Allah with Hubal or claiming Islam adopted pagan goddesses is not only incorrect—it contradicts the Qur’an’s explicit rejection of such beliefs.

I welcome further dialogue, but it must be grounded in accurate historical, theological, and linguistic understanding.

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TenQ:

Why is it that Muslims block their ears to the Truth

1. What are the names of the three daughters of Hubal?
AND
2. Who is Hubal?

The truth is clear from error!

Tell us what the holy spirit inspired you regarding Hubal?