NewStats: 3,259,470 , 8,170,210 topics. Date: Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 07:29 AM w15q

AirBay:


I disagree, although e no put money for my pocket. Personally i speak Yoruba, my native dialect, a bit of Finnish (studied in finland, had to learn), a bit of French (had to do TEF) and English...so i[b]f i pronouce some words and it doesnt sound like how queen of England would pronounce it[/b], do i blame naija education system...... while learning french, sometimes i use french words in English

I forgot to add pidgin sef. I didnt grow up in lekki, so English was not my sole language

@Bolded Most of us communicate using the English lanuage while in school for 1-6hours, the rest of d day na our local/native languages.

Infact I would say students only speak English durimg class periods

yes as per the bolded
because IF the Nigerian education system that was available to all was of high all round quality
, diction, grammar and the likes would have been taught from infancy upwards

But because the education was (and still is ) not the best, we have people speaking English with the lexical structure of the traditional languages.

"you are using me to play " hahahaha

"there is nothing I am using my life to do" bwahahahaha

"say it in my front" hehehehehe lmao
My Care!!!

RodgersAkpafu:

It's just that some of us like to make issues out of these things I cant laugh, you can't debate without putting on some of these stuffs



Well, as per your assertion I would assume that the education system in Quebec is bad because the way the a Québécois pronouce words is quite different from how a French individual that lived in Paris all their lives pronounces words.

Mali, Benin, Togo all speak french differently but if they go to , the french individual may say their education system is bad cos of their pronounciations.

So what about quebec? Dm education system is bad too? Let me drink my sobo Me sef I can say Quebec ppl speak bad French as per say my tutor was french and how she taught me to pronouce words is completely differnet. I use pardon when I speak french with people in canada because some of their pronounciations sound funny.

Its very good to want to speak the way the King of England speaks his language, I believe that's why upper caste indians (like you mentioned) and Rich Nigerians send their children to expensive schools where they can learn how to speak like the lady of isle of man .

Evidently from your words, I can come to a conclusion that all countries in the world having English as their first language (with multiple dialects) have bad education system if most of their citizens cannot pronouce/speak the Queens Language the exact way the Queen would speak.. Issokay

As for me, pronunciations or speaking a particular language fluently is not a measure of how the education system of a country should be graded.

I have worked with different people from differnet countries amd culture amd I would say the way an average Nigerian speaks beats most of these guys. Have you heard Ghanian or SA people speak? Isalright.

Dm go say dm English better our own too

Final whistle, it is normal for the kids thst gre up in the 40s 50s 60s generation to speak English better as I heard and would assume that majority of teachers in the schools are king/queen of England wardens. Children that grew up in that time will probably speak as they heard their teacher speak. Truly our education system has degraded over the years but the spoken English of an educated Nigeiran ranks among the best outside the English 5. Peace from oduduwa kingdom.... Kwenu from Igbo and Sandakata from the hausa regime..

RodgersAkpafu:


"you are using me to play " hahahaha

"there is nothing I am using my life to do" bwahahahaha

"say it in my front" hehehehehe lmao
My Care!!!

All these na just the way an average Nigerian street speak.

The way I write on NL is different from how I write in my teams chat or other chats that is not Nigerian based.

I think na your village people dy call Michael = My care sha... e no easy.

AirBay:


All these na just the way an average Nigerian street speak.

The way I write on NL is different from how I write in my teams chat or other chats that is not Nigerian based.
I think na your village people dy call Michael = My care sha... e no easy.

Of course @ the bolded
You are well exposed

A lot of our people however are not .
I don't blame anybody though

We are all victims of coming from a failed country with failing systems.

AirBay:


It's just that some of us like to make issues out of these things I cant laugh, you can't debate without putting on some of these stuffs



Well, as per your assertion I would assume that the education system in Quebec is bad because the way the a Québécois pronouce words is quite different from how a French individual that lived in Paris all their lives pronounces words.

Mali, Benin, Togo all speak french differently but if they go to , the french individual may say their education system is bad cos of their pronounciations.

So what about quebec? Dm education system is bad too? Let me drink my sobo Me sef I can say Quebec ppl speak bad French as per say my tutor was french and how she taught me to pronouce words is completely differnet. I use pardon when I speak french with people in canada because some of their pronounciations sound funny.

Its very good to want to speak the way the King of England speaks his language, I believe that's why upper caste indians (like you mentioned) and Rich Nigerians send their children to expensive schools where they can learn how to speak like the lady of isle of man .

Evidently from your words, I can come to a conclusion that all countries in the world having English as their first language (with multiple dialects) have bad education system if most of their citizens cannot pronouce/speak the Queens Language the exact way the Queen would speak.. Issokay

As for me, pronunciations or speaking a particular language fluently is not a measure of how the education system of a country should be graded.

I have worked with different people from differnet countries amd culture amd I would say the way an average Nigerian speaks beats most of these guys. Have you heard Ghanian or SA people speak? Isalright.

Dm go say dm English better our own too

Final whistle, it is normal for the kids thst gre up in the 40s 50s 60s generation to speak English better as I heard and would assume that majority of teachers in the schools are king/queen of England wardens. Children that grew up in that time will probably speak as they heard their teacher speak. Truly our education system has degraded over the years but the spoken English of an educated Nigeiran ranks among the best outside the English 5. Peace from oduduwa kingdom.... Kwenu from Igbo and Sandakata from the hausa regime..

You see,
You are mixing two things up, while making a bad attempt to be sarcastic
Language is multidimensional

There is the lexical structure, syntax, pronunciation, etc

A bloke from connecticut and another from Vancouver may speak different, but the variance is minimal in the real sense of it, because the baseline is there for both parties

I speak other European languages as well (eg french) and I can tell you that even though a Belgian and a Swiss speak French with a variance, the baseline is still there.

There are correct ways to pronounce words
You can pronounce words correctly, have a proper syntax, use the right lexical structure AND STILL HAVE A UNIQUE ACCENT

Let's even use our traditional languages
Igbo language for example
Imo and Anambra speak diff to a degree

But they will never pronounce many words the wrong way because there is a baseline
Biagodi is still biagodi

ditto for yoruba as well

In our own case, everything is just wrong when it comes to speaking and we take pride (well some of una, not me lol) in it because just like other things we have come to accept dysfunction as the norm because that is what has engulfed the country and that is what ppl are accustomed to.

Amd as per your final whistle

The degradation of our spoken AND written English is one small aspect, or will I say facet of our failed educational system

Yes, speaking properly does not mean you are intelligent
Amd not speaking properly doesn't mean you are NOT intelligent
Let's not conflate both
What it just means is that those who don't speak properly don't do so because they were NOT taught to do so....

Look at Scandinavia
Their education is top notch and it reflects in how they teach their people
Even how they are taught English and they speak it well in school

Again, to each his own though
As for me, I'm still working on mine

AirBay:


I disagree, although e no put money for my pocket. Personally i speak Yoruba, my native dialect, a bit of Finnish (studied in finland, had to learn), a bit of French (had to do TEF) and English...so if i pronouce some words and it doesnt sound like how queen of England would pronounce it, do i blame naija education system...... while learning french, sometimes i use french words in English

I forgot to add pidgin sef. I didnt grow up in lekki, so English was not my sole language

@Bolded Most of us communicate using the English lanuage while in school for 1-6hours, the rest of d day na our local/native languages.

Infact I would say students only speak English durimg class periods

I said for most, not for you. That's what the statistics show. Many in Nigeria don't speak their native or local tongue, and even when they do they speak it very poorly, certainly not as well as they supposedly speak English. That's a fact. The only problem is that they also often don't speak that English well enough.

As a simple example, how many government publications are released in local languages, compared to English? How many times has the country's president ever spoken and is interpreted in real time in the local languages? How many authors actually publish in the local languages? The reality is that the local languages in Nigeria (with the exception of Pidgin, maybe) are used sufficiently less and less that there's real worry the that they will soon fade into oblivion.

AirBay:


It's just that some of us like to make issues out of these things I cant laugh, you can't debate without putting on some of these stuffs



Well, as per your assertion I would assume that the education system in Quebec is bad because the way the a Québécois pronouce words is quite different from how a French individual that lived in Paris all their lives pronounces words.

Mali, Benin, Togo all speak french differently but if they go to , the french individual may say their education system is bad cos of their pronounciations.

So what about quebec? Dm education system is bad too? Let me drink my sobo Me sef I can say Quebec ppl speak bad French as per say my tutor was french and how she taught me to pronouce words is completely differnet. I use pardon when I speak french with people in canada because some of their pronounciations sound funny.

Its very good to want to speak the way the King of England speaks his language, I believe that's why upper caste indians (like you mentioned) and Rich Nigerians send their children to expensive schools where they can learn how to speak like the lady of isle of man .

Evidently from your words, I can come to a conclusion that all countries in the world having English as their first language (with multiple dialects) have bad education system if most of their citizens cannot pronouce/speak the Queens Language the exact way the Queen would speak.. Issokay

As for me, pronunciations or speaking a particular language fluently is not a measure of how the education system of a country should be graded.

I have worked with different people from differnet countries amd culture amd I would say the way an average Nigerian speaks beats most of these guys. Have you heard Ghanian or SA people speak? Isalright.

Dm go say dm English better our own too

Final whistle, it is normal for the kids thst gre up in the 40s 50s 60s generation to speak English better as I heard and would assume that majority of teachers in the schools are king/queen of England wardens. Children that grew up in that time will probably speak as they heard their teacher speak. Truly our education system has degraded over the years but the spoken English of an educated Nigeiran ranks among the best outside the English 5. Peace from oduduwa kingdom.... Kwenu from Igbo and Sandakata from the hausa regime..

I think you are getting it wrong. Bad pronunciation is quite different from accented English, and also totally different from just plain poor use of English. Personally, I wouldn't classify accented English as bad. I'd like to believe it's okay to speak English with some accent. People from different countries of the world will speak English differently; and so will Nigerians. I speak French too and have spoken with people from Quebec. Quebecois is slightly different from French, but it doesn't mean that someone speaking Quebecois is speaking bad French. In fact, those who speak Quebecois to each other understand themselves very well. Besides being heavily accented and using some words and expressions differently from French, it's actually not bad at all. On the contrary, it's actually sometimes hard for some Nigerians to understand each other when they speak their own English. I said "sometimes". Whether it's poor use of tense, bad grammar, use of conditionals when they shouldn't, etc, it all just adds up to really disastrous use of English most times. That's the problem! Not the accent, but the use of English.

That's what needs to be corrected firstly, not the pronunciation of words. And oftentimes, enunciation actually also helps with this. In fact, if as a Nigerian you continue to make these mistakes in an English work environment, then even the Indians will start telling you "pardon?", and then you'll be there wondering what's going on when you actually think you speak better English than them. Of course, this is not just a problem with Nigerians. It cuts across all geographies. Many don't get that good English education, after all.

I know this is a reality because my niece who was only 4 when she started at some backyard nursery and primary school in Lagos never spoke English well until we changed her school to a fairly upscale primary school in Lagos. And that's not the expensive Lekki ones; was just a much better school with higher standards and more qualified teachers. Now she enunciates her words clearly and pronounces them very well. The change in education made a significant difference. I fear that as adults set in our ways, it's just difficult to it this obvious failure in our education, and to instead bumble around and try to convince ourselves that nothing needs to change. Trust me, nobody makes it to the top without itting obvious failures and then working on it.

RodgersAkpafu:
Amd as per your final whistle

The degradation of our spoken AND written English is one small aspect, or will I say facet of our failed educational system

Yes, speaking properly does not mean you are intelligent
Amd not speaking properly doesn't mean you are NOT intelligent
Let's not conflate both
What it just means is that those who don't speak properly don't do so because they were NOT taught to do so....

Look at Scandinavia
Their education is top notch and it reflects in how they teach their people
Even how they are taught English and they speak it well in school

Again, to each his own though
As for me, I'm still working on mine

I'm totally on your side on this. I was once on an exchange in where I met with some germans and folks from a couple Scandinavia countries. For those who are well educated amongst them, you can see the effort at speaking good English, even if it's sometimes heavily accented. Germans, for example, would often pronounce "University" without using the starting "yoo" sound, jumping straight to "oo". They can't mostly because that letter does not exist in native German. That's understandable. However, they'd scarcely make the error of saying "my friends wants..." and the likes, which is just horrible grammar. In effect, you see that good education shines through, even if native proclivities hinder clear speech. Sadly, it's hard to say the same for most Nigerians and, just like you, I put this squarely at the feet of bad education. Years of bad education didn't just affect English, whereby you get English teachers in secondary schools that can't even speak English to save their lives; it also affected other subjects as well, which is no wonder why clubs like JETS that used to do so well in the 90's have pretty much faded into oblivion.

NuCypher:



I'm totally on your side on this. I was once on an exchange in where I met with some germans and folks from a couple Scandinavia countries. For those who are well educated amongst them, you can see the effort at speaking good English, even if it's sometimes heavily accented. Germans, for example, would often pronounce "University" without using the starting "yoo" sound, jumping straight to "oo". They can't mostly because that letter does not exist in native German. That's understandable. However, they'd scarcely make the error of saying "my friends wants..." and the likes, which is just horrible grammar. In effect, you see that good education shines through, even if native proclivities hinder clear speech. Sadly, it's hard to say the same for most Nigerians and, just like you, I put this squarely at the feet of bad education. Years of bad education didn't just affect English, whereby you get English teachers in secondary schools that can't even speak English to save their lives; it also affected other subjects as well, which is no wonder why clubs like JETS that used to do so well in the 90's have pretty much faded into oblivion.

you have articulated my thoughts even better than I could myself!

Kwealthhoney:

Hello Nairalanders,

My husband and I are planning to move to Alberta, Canada, around July 10, 2025, and we are currently looking for an affordable apartment to rent in either Edmonton or Calgary.

We are hoping to find:

A studio, 1 room in a shared apartment or 1 bedroom.

Budget-friendly (please share if utilities are included or not)

Located in a safe and accessible area

Close to public transport (preferably)

If you live in Alberta or know someone who does and can recommend, please drop a comment or send me a message.

Also open to suggestions on Facebook groups, websites, or agents that are reliable for newcomers.

Thanks in advance for your help!

If you don't mind a basement, there's one available in SouthWest Edmonton, near the airport. 2 bed, 1 bath. $1,100 rent + 250 for utilities.

SlowlybtSurely:


Please move if you can! I took a vacation there in 2023, and let's just say I will not be going back there again for a very long time. I have never felt so disrespected and discriminated against in my entire life as I did in Montreal. I actually couldn't believe I was in Canada.

lol

Hello all,

Please which part of Calgary feels okay to stay and with at least a sprinkle of naija or multicultural persons.

Went to check an apartment at Northeast today and everyone was just staring at me(95%) of the person's I saw were indians.


PS:if you have an agent ,I don't mind.
Wifey is starting a program at UCalgary


Thanks

adesbaba:
Hello all,

Please which part of Calgary feels okay to stay and with at least a sprinkle of naija or multicultural persons.

Went to check an apartment at Northeast today and everyone was just staring at me(95%) of the person's I saw were indians.


PS:if you have an agent ,I don't mind.
Wifey is starting a program at UCalgary


Thanks

Upper NW, Lower SW, Part of SSE.. these are naija zone. What type of accomodation are you looking for? Do you drive?

NE = Gujarat

Looking for a nice basement of 1 bedroom apartment (max 1250cad),,and if I get 2 bedroom ,no wahala...2 adult and an infant.

No I don't drive yet cos I am yet to take the driving test,once accomodation is sorted,will do that.


The NE part seems to have lot of Punjabis indians and co.

Hi guys… still on my Quest for relocation. I'm turning my attention to Edmonton for relocation after deciding against New Brunswick. I'm now looking at Edmonton for my relocation. I'm starting with the search for short-term accommodation and would love to hear any suggestions or advice you have about living there.

Kaycee20878:
Hi guys… still on my Quest for relocation. I'm turning my attention to Edmonton for relocation after deciding against New Brunswick. I'm now looking at Edmonton for my relocation. I'm starting with the search for short-term accommodation and would love to hear any suggestions or advice you have about living there.

I am also planning on moving to Edmonton, when is your landing date maybe we can both rent an apartment together

vickgrad:



I am also planning on moving to Edmonton, when is your landing date maybe we can both rent an apartment together

oh nice
Drop your so I can you directly

SlowlybtSurely:


If you don't mind a basement, there's one available in SouthWest Edmonton, near the airport. 2 bed, 1 bath. $1,100 rent + 250 for utilities.

Please is this still available?

adesbaba:
Hello all,

Please which part of Calgary feels okay to stay and with at least a sprinkle of naija or multicultural persons.

Went to check an apartment at Northeast today and everyone was just staring at me(95%) of the person's I saw were indians.

PS:if you have an agent ,I don't mind.
Wifey is starting a program at UCalgary

Thanks

Why did you choose NE?

Was the house cheap or was it close to your workplace?

Re: the bolded, I found Calgary quite multicultural. Even if you live in a mainly white area, you'd do just fine. I'd focus more on closeness to work and essential utilisies. If one has kids, then schools e.t.c.

Kwealthhoney:


Please is this still available?

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Abeg, people who’ve done Super Visa for parents, what insurance company did you guys use?

I tried getting a quote from Manulife, and after filling in all the required details, they stated that I need to pay the full amount of 2456 CAD.

Shey them no dey do monthly stuff or na me no sabi as things Dey go?

please,To those in Canada who understand the economy, please: what will be the effect of this on the average person in Canada, with a looming recession and rising unemployment? Any suggestions?"

I would send you an email.

SlowlybtSurely:


Yes

pgmechelon:
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How much?

I even feel the rents are not that cheap and IMO overpriced compared to winnipeg or edmonton.

amdman:


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