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This thread was created to blackmail the good people of South South Nigeria.

Agbegbaorogboye:

But you accused Rivers people of not being fanatical enough
You accused Cross River of not giving Obi a wide enough margin ditto Edo
All the while you couldn't help GEJ to retain his seat
I don't understand why you think others should go beyond what you claim you did for them

We gave GEJ 90% plus vote, we were so fanatical about our for him that it was impossible to rig him out in SE.
We knew he was the better candidate for the country and we went out of our to him full throttle. Whether our votes were enough for him to win is immaterial, the most important thing was that we delivered 90% plus for him.

When it was Obi on the ballot, everyone who is sincere knows he was the best candidate available, but did he get the same we gave to GEJ from minority zones?
Nope!

You know why? Because they don't play right or wrong politics, they play politics of interests.
Bayelsa voted APC, Rivers went to APC( you can claim it was rigged all you want, but that wouldn't happen if APC didn't have a baseline there), Akwaibom voted PDP, Akpabio job was to make sure Obi doesn't win the state and he delivered. You know why it happened? Because the people have their own interests to protect.

So yeah. Ndiigbo will have to learn to play same politics going forward. The era of free Igbo votes based on right or wrong should be in the past, you could still be right but once your victory doesn't put us in strong position, we shouldn't be seen ing you.
That's the game the rest of Nigeria have been playing and it's about time Ndiigbo play along too.

Just every Igbo man should have it at the back of his mind that South South people are neither our friends nor our enemies and we we should be treating them the same...

No emotional attachments anymore

pazienza:


Nnaa it's emotions.
Intelligence is knowing the right thing, wisdom is knowing when to do the right thing.
We can't be voting on morals in a nation not built on morals. We can't be playing the self righteous game in a land of thieves.

Ndiigbo have to recalibrate our approach to Nigeria and Nigerians.
It's a crime to play the Messiah in a land of thieves.

Go and rest.

We don't the crowd.

Go and find out how the white man had it tough with us.

Why didn't igbos vote for Ojukwu then? Why? Can you answer?


Abeg go and rest.

Elusive001:



Bros, go and rest. No one in his right senses will vote for Buhari or Tulumbu. We don't want t status quo.

We are not brought up to corruption, incompetence, etc.

No matter how hungry a lion is, it does not eat grass. Igbos DO NOT anything or anyone bad or evil. It is in our DNA bros. We are not like your people. Anything does not go for us.

We don't follow herd mentality.

Go and learn about the Igboman.

You are an emotional person, only a fool keep doing same thing and expect different results.
You are not going to save Nigeria, because the rest of the country are not interested in saving the country.
If you continue playing this sentimental politics you will continue to fall behind, I can assure you.
A wise people will reassess and readapt their mentality and methods to fit their environment.
A foolish people will keep forcing their environment to adapt to their fixed mentality.

You and you ilks in Igboland are looking like the later and to be sincere, you wall in the majority which is why the group is going to suffer for a long time.
You know nature is harsh. Life Lessons will be repeated as long as possible with each session harsher than the previous until you learn the lesson, then you can make progress.
This will be the case for Ndiigbo.

I wish you all the best.

Elusive001:



Go and rest.

We don't the crowd.

Go and find out how the white man had it tough with us.

Why didn't igbos vote for Ojukwu then? Why? Can you answer?


Abeg go and rest.

no need fighting amongst ourselves here. Read through his comments and you will see meaning there..

pazienza:


We gave GEJ 90% plus vote, we were so fanatical about our for him that it was impossible to rig him out in SE.
We knew he was the better candidate for the country and we went out of our to him full throttle. Whether our votes were enough for him to win is immaterial, the most important thing was that we delivered 90% plus for him.

When it was Obi on the ballot, everyone who is sincere knows he was the best candidate available, but did he get the same we gave to GEJ from minority zones?
Nope!

You know why? Because they don't play right or wrong politics, they play politics of interests.
Bayelsa voted APC, Rivers went to APC( you can claim it was rigged all you want, but that wouldn't happen if APC didn't have a baseline there), Akwaibom voted PDP, Akpabio job was to make sure Obi doesn't win the state and he delivered. You know why it happened? Because the people have their own interests to protect.

So yeah. Ndiigbo will have to learn to play same politics going forward. The era of free Igbo votes based on right or wrong should be in the past, you could still be right but once your victory doesn't put us in strong position, we shouldn't be seen ing you.
That's the game the rest of Nigeria have been playing and it's about time Ndiigbo play along too.

This man go and rest.

You have absolutely no say where igbos are. We don't play politics. We don't corruption, dishonesty, evil, etc. It will never be. We will never oga.

We vote our conscience. Instead of us to evil, we abstain. We don't and we won't evil, corruption, etc.

We cannot be like others.

We are not about ruling g Nigeria. We are all about a better society. That's what we seek. We cannot lose focus.

I guess you are happy with Buhari’s regime and the current one.

Please leave Igbos alone.

Antivirus92:
no need fighting amongst ourselves here. Read through his comments and you will see meaning there..

Bros, there is no fighting anything.

Let him vote his corrupt men I peace and leave igbos alone. We are wired to just, fair, noble, honest, course. We won't vote evil, corrupt, dishonest, etc men just for political correctness. Nna m never!!

That's whom we are. We cannot see right and call it wrong.

Elusive001:



This man go and rest.

You have absolutely no say where igbos are. We don't play politics. We don't corruption, dishonesty, evil, etc. It will never be. We will never oga.

We vote our conscience. Instead of us to evil, we abstain. We don't and we won't evil, corruption, etc.

We cannot be like others.

for me, there are better things for us to discuss than Nigerian politics. Our lagging behind in the Nigerian politics is not only because of how we play politics but on the lack of from other regions. The north are still looking for that igboman they can trust, which maybe Jesus Christ when he comes down from heaven since they couldn't pick any reliable person of igbo origin since time immemorial.

Let's focus on our business, education, development and expansion.

They can keep their politics for all I care

Elusive001:



This man go and rest.

You have absolutely no say where igbos are. We don't play politics. We don't corruption, dishonesty, evil, etc. It will never be. We will never oga.

We vote our conscience. Instead of us to evil, we abstain. We don't and we won't evil, corruption, etc.

We cannot be like others.

Bla bla bla bla bla!

Zero wisdom.
Just open mouth waaa!

No Ako, no Uche.

Natural selection is built on adaptation. If Ndiigbo don't adapt, it will get uglier for us.
People like you with empty chest beating Messianic complex are a bane for the Igbo.

You don't this you don't that, so who were the Otimkpu that ed PDP to plunder Abia state from 1999-2023? Who were those singing radio jingles for OUK, Ikpeazu and T.A Orji? They are not Igbos right?
Who are those that helped the Supreme court governor, a man with past history of being involved in fraud business, win re election in Imo, those who campaigned for him all over 27 LGAs of Imo and helped him rig himself back? They are Yorubas?

Peter Mbah helped Chimaroke launder Enugu money between 1999-2003, until EFCC caught them and forced them to part with some of the money.
That Peter Mbah is a thief that stole from the state is no secret, he doesn't even have an NYSC certificate.
But guess who campaigned and voted for him? Fellow Igbos!
Oh he rigged? Maybe, but he had organic ers thousands of them upon which the rigging was carried out. So you can spare us the talk of being saints and voting for purity, these and that.
You guys take yourselves too seriously. You don't even see or hear how hollow you sound with these self gravitating righteous praises.


You foolishly give yourself a toga of self righteous, make a clown of yourselves in national politics trying to play saints and then turn around and start crying and accusing others of betraying you like you had any agreement forehand with them?

Lol!

ALTERNATEID:


Peter Obi must contest in 2027.

No way.... He should not, he should save his money abeg.

Antivirus92:
for me, there are better things for us to discuss than Nigerian politics. Our lagging behind in the Nigerian politics is not only because of how we play politics but on the lack of from other regions. The north are still looking for that igboman they can trust, which maybe Jesus Christ when he comes down from heaven since they couldn't pick any reliable person of igbo origin since time immemorial.

Let's focus on our business, education, development and expansion.

They can keep their politics for all I care

The last sentence is a statement of a man incapable of strategizing.
A defeatist mentality..
I myself I am anti Nigeria and pro Igbo independence.
But if at this point you haven't realised that to retrieve Igboland out of Nigeria successfully, we have to find a way around national politics, then you are not rational.

No Nigerian group like each other. Ijaw is fighting Itsekiri, Ijaw are dragging Gelegele with Bini, Yorubas have issues with North currently, within North there are issues too.
So saying no one s you is funny, no one owe you .
A wise people strategize and find ways to get things done.
A finished people remain static, refusing to adapt to a changing environment while pointing fingers at everything else.
You can't ignore politics, especially in a centralised setting like Nigeria.
Your enemies will wake up one day and enact a policy that will wipe away all the stupid economic benefits you think you amassed in a blink of an eye, if you make noise, soldiers will be deployed in your zone..
Some of you are so out of touch with reality, it's mind boggling.

pazienza:


You are an emotional person, only a fool keep doing same thing and expect different results.
You are not going to save Nigeria, because the rest of the country are not interested in saving the country.
If you continue playing this sentimental politics you will continue to fall behind, I can assure you.
A wise people will reassess and readapt their mentality and methods to fit their environment.
A foolish people will keep forcing their environment to adapt to their fixed mentality.

You and you ilks in Igboland are looking like the later and to be sincere, you wall in the majority which is why the group is going to suffer for a long time.
You know nature is harsh. Life Lessons will be repeated as long as possible with each session harsher than the previous until you learn the lesson, then you can make progress.
This will be the case for Ndiigbo.

I wish you all the best.

So you are suggesting that we should be voting for Apc In presidential election starting from 2027 ?

Elusive001:


Igbos vote character and not emotions.

Tell me whom igbos votes for based on emotions.

Do you really know igbos?
So not voting for buhari was based on emotions?

ing GEJ ahead of Buhari was based on emotions?

Not voting for Tinubu was based in emotions too?

Igbos vote competence, honesty, uprightness, good leadership, etc. They want a functional free, fair, and just society. Tell who among those the voted against represent any of the interest of Igbos? They don't vote for the sake of it. Did the vote for Dim Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu when he contested? Why didn't they vote for him massively considering his status in igboland.

Bros go and research about the Igboman please.

So how come your region has the worst set of Governors, senators and house of rep from 1999 till date and Please give me that narrative of they rigged election cos even hope and OUK have many ers who publicly endorse them.

stanluiz:
So you are suggesting that we should be voting for Apc In presidential election starting from 2027 ?

Nigeria can't be saved and no Nigerian group is interested in saving Nigeria, Ndiigbo should wake up

Ndiigbo should do whatever it takes to place us back in National politics, I mean whatever! I don't care.
This way we are in a strong political position to negotiate our escape from this failed British colonial estate.

That's my point. The Greeks fought against Troy for years outside the walls of Troy, and even with all their mighty men of valour in place, they couldn't harm Troy.
Not until they found a way to get themselves into Troy by building the Trojan horse.
We have numbers, we mustn't be the president, but if we are open enough to play the Machiavellian politics, we can get things done by playing our cards ruthlessly with no regard for the future or betterment of Nigeria,only thing that should matter to us in this phase is our interests, not wrong or right! Just our interests.
This is how the rest of the country have been playing their own politics, it's about time we learned too.

pazienza:


Nigeria can't be saved and no Nigerian group is interested in saving Nigeria, Ndiigbo should wake up

Ndiigbo should do whatever it takes to place us back in National politics, I mean whatever! I don't care.
This way we are in a strong political position to negotiate our escape from this failed British colonial estate.

That's my point. The Greeks fought against Troy for years outside the walls of Troy, and even with all their mighty men of valour in place, they couldn't harm Troy.
Not until they found a way to get themselves into Troy by building the Trojan horse.
We have numbers, we mustn't be the president, but if we are open enough to play the Machiavellian politics, we can get things done by playing our cards ruthlessly with no regard for the future or betterment of Nigeria,only thing that should matter to us in this phase is our interests, not wrong or right! Just our interests.
This is how the rest of the country have been playing their own politics, it's about time we learned too.

Bros, your perspective is diabolical and I'm glad to have read through all of your posts on this thread... There was a shift in my perception not about politics but about life in general... Thank you !!!

Dalohad:
Make everybody vote who they want.
At the end water will find its level. Those of us wey get sense, have built our personal successes and achievements to a level where it can never be pulled down.

I hated Buhari but he made me rich. I knew he was a dunce immediately he came in. So I changed 80% of my naira liquidity into dollar while it was still priced @ $300 in 2016 and waited for the dunce and his ers like Lordviccodaguru and the other vvulture griller to knock themselves out defending the dullard for crumbs.

Today, the former is running around one fake pastor for chopmoney, while the Suya man can't afford Yaji pepper anymore.

Dollar is now $1600, close to 400% ROI due to the Daura man's ineptitude. Yes, I became richer, got a Doctorate, paid for international courses and got International appointments.

Who lose?

If majority wan damage Nigeria, they are welcome, but Ichaka Ike must be rich, government good or e nor good.

Naso my brother
You do well

You too much
You wise well well no b small

pazienza:


Nigeria can't be saved and no Nigerian group is interested in saving Nigeria, Ndiigbo should wake up

Ndiigbo should do whatever it takes to place us back in National politics, I mean whatever! I don't care.
This way we are in a strong political position to negotiate our escape from this failed British colonial estate.

That's my point. The Greeks fought against Troy for years outside the walls of Troy, and even with all their mighty men of valour in place, they couldn't harm Troy.
Not until they found a way to get themselves into Troy by building the Trojan horse.
We have numbers, we mustn't be the president, but if we are open enough to play the Machiavellian politics, we can get things done by playing our cards ruthlessly with no regard for the future or betterment of Nigeria,only thing that should matter to us in this phase is our interests, not wrong or right! Just our interests.
This is how the rest of the country have been playing their own politics, it's about time we learned too.

What was the benefit people like Odili, Amaechi, Ogbonnaya Onu, Uzor Kalu, Rochester, Nigeria, etc get? Tell me. You think that it is about politics? It's like saying that Israel needs to change her politics in order to be accepted by her Muslim-Arab neighbours.

What was the reaction of the other tribes afterIBB wrote that 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup.

Nwata na-amaghi ihe gburu nna ya, ihe gburu nna ya eguo ya.

Been a long time I heard a truth from the mouth of an (se) obidient!

Igirigimercenar:
. Nke bu eziokwu is that, politics is not our thing, we attach too much emotions to it

And we have also shown too much emotions and attachments to the south south. We have to move away from this and the rest of the big three to eat what is left of the country

Only if ur 'colleagues' will/can recognize this fact instead of throwing tantrums and causing nuisances upandan!

I am enjoying this thread

Pazienza fire on. If only we have people like you twice here,it would be nice

Fergie001, another old igbo man here who should be teaching the younger igbo generation in this forum about the realities of things in Nigeria is busy playing the good guy

Nigeria is not for the weak or the good but for the strongest

unamamatoto:
Bros, your perspective is diabolical and I'm glad to have read through all of your posts on this thread... There was a shift in my perception not about politics but about life in general... Thank you !!!

. Pazienza is a legend here. Very popular in the early days of nairaland

One of the best igbo defender in those days when the rest of Nigeria declared war against igbos in this forum

Igirigimercenar:
I am enjoying this thread

Pazienza fire on. If only we have people like you twice here,it would be nice

, another old igbo man here who should be teaching the younger igbo generation in this forum about the realities of things in Nigeria is busy playing the good guy

Nigeria is not for the weak or the good but for the strongest

You want people to insult my generation?
I am a good guy biko

I have said all that is in 2022.

YorubaMuslim. Playing there games as usual

ShinjaWWest:
Hahhahaha....


When Ur southeast brothers were busy Insulting every tribe in Southsouth you didn't caution Ur brothers now you want Southsouth to stand and you guys... Never!!!

Igbos insulted Akwaibom people bcus they hated akpabio...

Igbos insulted edo people who voted massively for obi...

Igbos even insulted Yoruba's that voted for obi...

We r now wise..Igbos don't wish well for other tribes.

I voted for obi in 2023..But will never do that again..

God bless the good people of Southsouth and southwest

fergie001:

You want people to insult my generation?
I am a good guy biko

I have said all that is in 2022.

. Okay ngwanu continue

Just go through what pazienza said here and tell me what you think

I am waiting

Elusive001:



What was the benefit people like Odili, Amaechi, Ogbonnaya Onu, Uzor Kalu, Rochester, Nigeria, etc get? Tell me. You think that it is about politics? It's like saying that Israel needs to change her politics in order to be accepted by her Muslim-Arab neighbours.

What was the reaction of the other tribes afterIBB wrote that 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup.

Nwata na-amaghi ihe gburu nna ya, ihe gburu nna ya eguo ya.

You're very wrong in this submission. Even Israel play this politics that Pazienza is talking about here. You're unfortunately not following through with your thoughts. If you were, you'll understand him.
I know you're talking about voting the right candidate and all what not. It is the right thing to do IF majority of Nigerians actually want the right thing for Nigeria. Unfortunately, majority don't care about Nigeria hence they vote in criminals. His point is that Ndigbo must not care about Nigeria anymore but about the interest of our people. We should a thief as long as the thief will negotiate and reciprocate our votes. If you're smart, you'll get the message.
Here's something to ponder about. The species of animals that will continue to survive are those that a capable of adapting to situations. Strength, morality, hardworking etc becomes of less importance to survive if they can't adapt to the situation confronting them.
I hope you get it now.

pazienza:


Yes we have.
If I knew what I know now in 2011, there was no way I was going to allow us give GEJ the kind of we gave him.
You would have thought our people would have learnt from that experience, but obviously we haven't and it's very annoying.

Someone is bragging about how Igbos ed SS to walk out over oil derivation percentage, how exactly is that something to be proud of? You are ing a people who wouldn't you if the roles turn and you are doing so not out of written agreement or any agreement of any kind, but simply out of emotions and need to play righteous politics in a land of thieves? You wonder why no one is taking you seriously anymore.


That's stupidity and something we shouldn't be proud to be saying. It's something we should be reflecting on in silence and be shuddering at the amount of lack of pragmatism we have displayed in our relationship with non Igbos in Nigeria since 1999 and be thinking of how we can reverse it to start getting better deals nationally by acting ruthlessly in national issues to protect our own interests irrespective of whose horse gets gored.

Imagine how low we have sunk that I saw some Northerners talking about a new alliance with GEJ as president and a Northerner as VP.
They are probably calculating that the emotional senseless Igbos are going to GEJ again, even when GEJ has remained an ingrate who has done nothing to reciprocate the huge Ndiigbo gave him, his Bayelsa people couldn't even vote for Obi last elections.
That's how low we have sunk as a people, the rest of Nigeria don see us finish, a finished emotional people incapable of playing politics of interests, always eager to play the foolish Messiah and righteous role and be left with short end of the stick.

Our wise ancestors must be turning in their graves over what have become of modern Igbos.

We are in deep trouble.

I must it that as a none Igbo, I am impressed by your direction of thought.

It is quite different from the typical direction most Igbo posts go here.

The typical thing you see, is Igbos talking down on other tribes, used to be Hausa/fulanis, now it is Yorubas.

They spend a lot of energy showing us how others bad, unintelligent, poor, and how they are better than others.

They cannot look at any thread and not see an opportunity to show off.

Politics is about intrest, no region Owes another one anything.

If you want people to back your candidate, you must show them what is in it for them, you can't just go in with a sense of entitlement.

Politics is also about building bridges , not making enemies. If your candidate is spending so much money,time and effort to convince others to vote for him,and you are spending the bulk of your time abusing the same people, you are not helping him/her

Dalohad:
Make everybody vote who they want.
At the end water will find its level. Those of us wey get sense, have built our personal successes and achievements to a level where it can never be pulled down.

I hated Buhari but he made me rich. I knew he was a dunce immediately he came in. So I changed 80% of my naira liquidity into dollar while it was still priced @ $300 in 2016 and waited for the dunce and his ers like Lordviccodaguru and the other vvulture griller to knock themselves out defending the dullard for crumbs.

Today, the former is running around one Abuja fake pastor for chopmoney, while the Suya man can't afford Yaji pepper anymore.

Dollar is now $1600, close to 400% ROI due to the Daura man's ineptitude. Yes, I became richer, got a Doctorate, paid for international courses and got International appointments.

Who lose?

If majority wan damage Nigeria, they are welcome, but Ichaka Ike must be rich, government good or e nor good.

This is only possible if you are a salary earner. No business man would keep 80% of his capital for 8 years.

pazienza:


I tire brother.
Imagine the weak beggie beggie attitude.
The SS is free to do whatever they want, we will also react accordingly.
Nah game of thrones.

And he is dead wrong on Igbanke issue.
As long as Igbanke kings maintain that they are Igbos every well breastfed Igbo son will stand with them and against Oba Bini hegemony interest in Igbanke.
The Bini people can do whatever they want, they can all vote APC or whatever, we will all enjoy the dividends together.

No one, I repeat no one is doing Ndiigbo a favour by voting or ing Peter Obi. Ndiigbo will not be blackmailed because you voted and want to vote Peter Obi.
If you are not voting Peter Obi because he is the best candidate available, then you can as well vote APC, we go all enjoy well. We have 5 states that will continue receiving monthly allocations from FG irrespective of who is the president, all we need is to hold them able by ensuring we vote the right governors and we will be fine.
Peter Obi himself will be fine too, his Fidelity bank just declared profits few days ago.

All these Igbo Obidients rolling on the floor for minorities are beginning to annoy me like IPOB people.
Obi political ambitions is not bigger than Igbo national interests.
Minorities he is talking about, Bayelsa voted for APC last elections, GEJ was seen moving around with Tinubu before the elections, this was a man we all died for in two election cycles, yet the ingrate couldn't even lend Obi , Akwaibom voted PDP, Rivers voted APC( anyone can claim it was rigged, but it only happened because Obi didn't have fanatic there, like GEJ had in Igboland), Obi barely won Cross River, Obi won Edo, but the margin of victory was hardly "sweeping".
Juxtapose this half hearted Obi got from those places with the fanatical 90% plus that we gave to GEJ in 2011 and 2015 and you see where our problems lie .

We must eschew from appealing to people emotions when it comes to politics and learn to meet them exactly where they are willing to meet us. Wickedness must be matched with wickedness, tribalism with tribalism, hate for hate, resentment for resentment, that's the way to go.

The bolded is exactly my stand that's why helinues and co. Always call us "children of hate". Pretending as if they are not the cause.

Mbanda:
The bolded is exactly my stand that's why helinues and co. Always call us "children of hate". Pretending as if they are not the cause.

Why do you lack self respect for yourself? Must you mentioned me in almost every of your comments?

Stop the boring attitude. Express yourself without seeking my validation