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numericalguy(m): 2:43pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


Guy with 600k you will get llitjium.battery 25.6v 100 ah.Cworth is 555k,Valto should be within the 600k range, @Mrreed Lifepo4 of same capacity is #420k. and if you can wait,Deriy battery is about 385k.So you see you have more than enough options for LFP that will give you same capacity as 2 tubular batteries and last linger,charges faster

Please delete the thought of tubular from your subconscious mind grin.The enemy wants to have you but we will pray for you grin

Please leave tubular forever.


For someone like me with an existing system and my gel batries are no longer serving.
Will I need to change my inverter as i once heard that Lithium batteries cannot work with regular inverters that are commonly used to charge lead-acid batteries.
numericalguy(m): 2:55pm On Apr 29
HeavenlyBang:


What inverter do you have?

Luminous 24v/1.5KVA
This is the type of inverter that i have and I have been using it for 8 years

omotoda(m): 3:10pm On Apr 29
numericalguy:



For someone like me with an existing system and my gel batries are no longer serving.
Will I need to change my inverter as i once heard that Lithium batteries cannot work with regular inverters that are commonly used to charge lead-acid batteries.

Does your inverter have adjustable setting at the back for SMF,Tubular or flat plate batteries?.If it does use SMF,if not it will have either HC ( High Charging) or Normal Charging ( NC).I use Luminous Zelios 1.5kva for LFP and no issues. Its charging current is about 18amps and with SMF setting the max charging voltage is 28.8v which is still fine.I have solar set up with it though but the one in my Madam office has no solar and it works fine as well.

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ValtechEnergy(m): 3:11pm On Apr 29
Elslim:


Recommend a good 3.5kwh 24v lifepo4 battery for my whc hybrid inverter 3.6kva biko
24v 3.6kwh lifepo4 lithium battery ..made with brand new REPT 142AH lifepo4 lithium battery cells , Jk 100A 1A active balancer Bluetooth bms and JK 3.2inch display @690k

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ValtechEnergy(m): 3:16pm On Apr 29
Alueheal:
So I bought inverter today, 2.5kva felicity 24v and 450 watts 4pcs jinko .
welldone ,nice choice of inverter and s though .which tubular are u going for wink

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abuzz33: 3:22pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


How are they affordable? GSR 240ah is 290k,Luminous is around 300-320k?

What is the price of Lithium? I am beginning to believe some people just drop comments to set us back.If you can afford 2 tubular batteries ,then you can afford Lithium! Period!!!

2 tubular batteries will give you 4kwh. A lifepo4 battery of that size will cost you 900k. That's affordability factor.

If Nigeria produced batteries like India a 200ah 12v tubular battery would cost less then 250k. Meaning that 2 would cost 500k.

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Alueheal: 3:42pm On Apr 29
ValtechEnergy:
welldone ,nice choice of inverter and s though .which tubular are u going for wink
am still in market for this lithium battery,All the one I saw where above the budget..
Please how good are blue gate tubular batteries
mctfopt: 3:43pm On Apr 29
Ahyjo:
please I need a reliable plug here to get these and a good dc cable from.

@linnov8 sells good DC cable and breakers

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/684167/inverter-s-lets-experience/170#134006696
mctfopt: 3:45pm On Apr 29
numericalguy:


Luminous 24v/1.5KVA
This is the type of inverter that i have and I have been using it for 8 years


This inverter doesn't die.

My cousin has one since 2015. Still rocking.
Mykcool(m): 3:49pm On Apr 29
Alueheal:
am still in market for this lithium battery,All the one I saw where above the budget..
Please how good are blue gate tubular batteries
For the love of God, expunge that tubular from your thoughts.

State your budget for battery and let them suggest for you.
I believe you've been given some options in the previous pages.

I can see you've gotten the inverter already.

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FEGEITOK: 3:52pm On Apr 29
mctfopt:



This inverter doesn't die.

My cousin has one since 2015. Still rocking.

They did such a good job that Schneider either licensed the model or got the rights to make something uncanningly similar

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Alueheal: 3:53pm On Apr 29
Mykcool:

For the love of God, expunge that tubular from your thoughts.

State your budget for battery and let them suggest for you.
I believe you've been given some options in the previous pages.

I can see you've gotten the inverter already.
budget 540k
numericalguy(m): 4:00pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


Does your inverter have adjustable setting at the back for SMF,Tubular or flat plate batteries?.If it does use SMF,if not it will have either HC ( High Charging) or Normal Charging ( NC).I use Luminous Zelios 1.5kva for LFP and no issues. Its charging current is about 18amps and with SMF setting the max charging voltage is 28.8v which is still fine.I have solar set up with it though but the one in my Madam office has no solar and it works fine as well.

It has a switch with two positions namely:-
1) Regulated UPS
2) Unregulated UPS

omotoda(m): 4:27pm On Apr 29
abuzz33:


2 tubular batteries will give you 4kwh. A lifepo4 battery of that size will cost you 900k. That's affordability factor.

If Nigeria produced batteries like India a 200ah 12v tubular battery would cost less then 250k. Meaning that 2 would cost 500k.

Two tubular of 220ah * 24v will give you 5280 watts but the caveat is you are only safe discharging 50% which is just 2.5kw same as LFP which can be discharged to zero, has higher charge acceptance,less bulky and greater number of cycles.Let's not go back
please. We have been through this calculations/ analysis before.The best you can get from a well maintained tubular us 1500 cycles and that's provided you do about 50% DOD.How about the mess they create? Let's move on to Canaan. We left Egypt a long time ago grin

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HeavenlyBang(m): 4:28pm On Apr 29
Mykcool:

For the love of God, expunge that tubular from your thoughts.

State your budget for battery and let them suggest for you.
I believe you've been given some options in the previous pages.

I can see you've gotten the inverter already.

Stop wasting your time.

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omotoda(m): 4:35pm On Apr 29
numericalguy:


It has a switch with two positions namely:-
1) Regulated UPS
2) Unregulated UPS

This is not for charging. This switch is for either inverter mode or ups mode,what some label as wide or narrow use.

If you don't gave option for battery selection, you can try it but be sure your LFP has a monitoring app.You won't have issues with the charging current.Indian inverters of that capacity hardly exceed 20amp charging current..Its the charging voltage that we are concerned about.I believe you should be fine .Like Dam5reey will say,you can do it for science

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ValtechEnergy(m): 4:47pm On Apr 29
Alueheal:
am still in market for this lithium battery,All the one I saw where above the budget..
Please how good are blue gate tubular batteries
grin grin grin. this tubular craze eeh, who do u this thing is really very strong i swear cheesy
anyway u can go for original Luminous tubular. it is around 320 to 330k, 2pcs for 24v = around 650k @ 50% DOD u will be getting approximately 2.6kwh-2.8kwh. but why not get my 24v 3.6kwh lifepo4 lithium battery of 90% DOD at 690k, which will last u atleast 10yrs to 12yrs.
abuzz33: 5:19pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


Two tubular of 220ah * 24v will give you 5280 watts but the caveat is you are only safe discharging 50% which is just 2.5kw same as LFP which can be discharged to zero, has higher charge acceptance,less bulky and greater number of cycles.Let's not go back
please. We have been through this calculations/ analysis before.The best you can get from a well maintained tubular us 1500 cycles and that's provided you do about 50% DOD.How about the mess they create? Let's move on to Canaan. We left Egypt a long time ago grin



Not correct. A quality tubular battery will give you 1500 cycles at 80% discharge. That's why it's called deep cycle. At 80% discharge a 220ah 24v will give you 4,224w.

Luminous has great batteries. I ran their inverlast batteries for 4 years straight from 6pm -7am and they still held up to 80% capacity.

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ValtechEnergy(m): 5:33pm On Apr 29
abuzz33:


Not correct. A quality tubular battery will give you 1500 cycles at 80% discharge. That's why it's called deep cycle. At 80% discharge a 220ah 24v will give you 4,224w.

Luminous has great batteries. I ran their inverlast batteries for 4 years straight from 6pm -7am and they still held up to 80% capacity.


can this your wonderful tubular last for atleast 12yrs?
what is the price difference vs similar lithium ?
can it chest 100A charging current and be filled in 2hrs?
can it go few months without u carrying a jerry can of holy water to top up? grin
can u monitor performance via any app?
can set or edit discharge or charge settings ?

tubular is outdated in 2025 bro. no whine yourself tongue

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bassdow: 5:52pm On Apr 29
abuzz33:


Tubular batteries are affordable which us the no 1 reason. The batteries like luminous provide at least 4 years of deep discharge at 80% and over 7 years at 50% discharge. I have experienced it. For small setups lead acid is good enough.
Another reason is, Not everyone is Wealthy enough to afford quality Lithium batteries.

Also, the extra Money you make from Selling Used Tubular batteries, some people would even sell them, before they can add more funds to buy another.

What about Ruggedness ?

No matter how much people try, tubular and SLA / GEL batteries are going noWhere anyTime soon.

See eh, if you buy a quality used Tubular / SLA / GEL battery, you could even use it for over 5-more years sef.

No let dealers deceive you; Each battery technology have got their Strong & Weak points.

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bassdow: 6:02pm On Apr 29
ValtechEnergy:
can this your wonderful tubular last for atleast 12yrs?
what is the price difference vs similar lithium ?
can it chest 100A charging current and be filled in 2hrs?
can it go few months without u carrying a jerry can of holy water to top up? grin
can u monitor performance via any app?
can set or edit discharge or charge settings ?

tubular is outdated in 2025 bro. no whine yourself tongue


what is the price difference vs similar lithium ? There's a gap BUT then, everything has got it's PROs and Cons. No need praise Lithium like it's got no Cons.

can it chest 100A charging current and be filled in 2hrs? That's one of the PROs of Lithium technology.

can it go few months without u carrying a jerry can of holy water to top up? grin...that's only if you choose to buy the Distilled water in little quantity. You could even go 5 to 6 months without topUps.

can u monitor performance via any app? Not everyOne needs such feature. Not even those for charge Controllers sef

can set or edit discharge or charge settings ? You could do same from the charge Controller / charger (inverter)

tubular is outdated in 2025 bro. no whine yourself tongue Despite all the jingles about SSDs vs hardDisk, their older cousin Tape Drives are still very much in use. Na mostly those who have positioned themSelves as beneficiaries, that cry to the world on need for such change.


At end of the day, everything has got it's place. Despite all the billions spent on Electric cars, and it's innovations, Population of Fossil cars are still leading. Even those advocating for Green energy, still go to WARs with Fossil powered Vehicles

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bassdow: 6:19pm On Apr 29
ValtechEnergy:
grin grin grin. this tubular craze eeh, who do u this thing is really very strong i swear cheesy
anyway u can go for original Luminous tubular. it is around 320 to 330k, 2pcs for 24v = around 650k @ 50% DOD u will be getting approximately 2.6kwh-2.8kwh. but why not get my 24v 3.6kwh lifepo4 lithium battery of 90% DOD at 690k, which will last u atleast 10yrs to 12yrs.

In as much one of the PROs of Lithium technology is it's DOD, hence a 100AH lithium battery is bigger than a 150AH Tubular / Gel / SLA battery, if I were in your shoes, having built up the Trust (at least in here), would just shade both (Lithium, Tubular, and Normal Deep Cycle battery) so people would shop based on their preference.

Another thing is, Una sabi quote Number of Years, because una know say there's no one to hold you guys able. Should anything happen along the line, Una already get Wetin Una go tell the person as reason why e no near those high number of years Una quote.

Mind you, there are Quality brands of non-Lithium based batteries known to stay above 8-years sef. It's all about Quality. Even a low end Lithium battery might not last up to 1-year if you like give it all the Care in the World.

Hopefully, You're equally stating to people the Prices you quoted up there, does not include certain other things you have randomly stated as it's PROs.

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bassdow: 6:25pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


Two tubular of 220ah * 24v will give you 5280 watts but the caveat is you are only safe discharging 50% which is just 2.5kw same as LFP which can be discharged to zero, has higher charge acceptance,less bulky and greater number of cycles.Let's not go back
please. We have been through this calculations/ analysis before.The best you can get from a well maintained tubular us 1500 cycles and that's provided you do about 50% DOD.How about the mess they create? Let's move on to Canaan. We left Egypt a long time ago grin

Discharging a Lithium battery to Zero, you end up in same situation as a Tubular / Gel / SLA battery who runs theirs below 50%. LET's presume you said this unintentionally .

Also, what you mean by "How about the mess they create?"

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bassdow: 6:27pm On Apr 29
Mykcool:

For the love of God, expunge that tubular from your thoughts.

State your budget for battery and let them suggest for you.
I believe you've been given some options in the previous pages.

I can see you've gotten the inverter already.
hmm

There really seems to be a CRUSADE against buying non Lithium batteries.
bassdow: 6:32pm On Apr 29
numericalguy:



Would I need to change my inverter as I learnt that not all inverters that handle lead acid batteries can handle lithium batteries.


cc
Christian8880
bassdow
Dam5reey1
favouredbymercy
so Long the Inverter has editAble settings - where you cn set the charge settings, you're good to go.

Also, if you intends using Solar s, and you intends using an external Charge controller, then you need not bother at all
ManAdii: 6:34pm On Apr 29
@bassdow
Defender of tubular and SLA batteries cheesy grin
No gree for anybody

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swagifted(m): 6:40pm On Apr 29
The proxy battery war continues grin
Bruteality1: 6:42pm On Apr 29
Alueheal:
am still in market for this lithium battery,All the one I saw where above the budget..
Please how good are blue gate tubular batteries
I'm using Two luminous 230ah Tall Tubular Batteries and it's a beast. Get it and you won't go wrong. The battery lasts so well and it gets filled up with the before 1:30 even after a heavy use the night before
Alueheal: 6:44pm On Apr 29
Bruteality1:
I'm using Two luminous 230ah Tall Tubular Batteries and it's a beast. Get it and you won't go wrong. The battery lasts so well and it gets filled up with the before 12 even after a heavy use the night before
what's the watts of your and how many PCs did you install
Bruteality1: 6:45pm On Apr 29
omotoda:


Two tubular of 220ah * 24v will give you 5280 watts but the caveat is you are only safe discharging 50% which is just 2.5kw same as LFP which can be discharged to zero, has higher charge acceptance,less bulky and greater number of cycles.Let's not go back
please. We have been through this calculations/ analysis before.The best you can get from a well maintained tubular us 1500 cycles and that's provided you do about 50% DOD.How about the mess they create? Let's move on to Canaan. We left Egypt a long time ago grin


Two 230ah Luminous Tall Tubular is 80% DOD
Bruteality1: 6:46pm On Apr 29
abuzz33:


Not correct. A quality tubular battery will give you 1500 cycles at 80% discharge. That's why it's called deep cycle. At 80% discharge a 220ah 24v will give you 4,224w.

Luminous has great batteries. I ran their inverlast batteries for 4 years straight from 6pm -7am and they still held up to 80% capacity.



The battery is awesome. Serving perfectly

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