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davodyguy: 7:44pm On Apr 27
Vic2riah:
I have a Sierra Leone port with different surname and Nigeria port with another surname, my Sierra Leone port have been denied a USA visa on it in 2017, but my Nigeria port have not been denied a visa on it. I want to apply for a uk student visa with my Nigeria port because the surname on it have the name on all my credentials, I heard uk and USA share data to thier self, I want to know if this wount cause an issues for me or what are my chances for the uk visa application.
People can share last name or first name, however, no one can share fingerprint and image.

If the biometrics matches and your name shows different information, then this may be trouble, except if you can prove that you changed name.

Yes, you may be known as Uchenna in 1995 and decide to change to Musa.

You've not committed a crime, just publish it and you'll fill that you've been known with a different name before

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Thanos(m): 7:55pm On Apr 27
Hi guys. I must say this thread has been one of the most educative thread on the platform. Thanks to all the contributors.
I have a question, is there a thread for medical professionals, specifically doctors looking to emigrate via work visa to one of UK,Canada or US and is filled with valuable info. Or is there any doctor in the house that has threaded this path of emigration and is willing to help with some pointers/direction. It would be deeply appreciated.
Thanks.
Vic2riah: 8:13pm On Apr 27
davodyguy:

People can share last name or first name, however, no one can share fingerprint and image.

If the biometrics matches and your name shows different information, then this may be trouble, except if you can prove that you changed name.

Yes, you may be known as Uchenna in 1995 and decide to change to Musa.

You've not committed a crime, just publish it and you'll fill that you've been known with a different name before

Thanks so much for the advice
Really appreciate

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Adunnishugar(f): 11:41pm On Apr 27
Cashmadam:


I'm not sure a minor can travel alone. In those days, a minor must travel with an adult - the adult's port number would be endorsed on the minors UK visa. I'm not sure how it works these days as my children are now adults. Perharps others can help.

And yes, her parents and school can serve as ties to Nigeria.


Thank you for responding

I will confirm this with the airline before booking

Or please does this mean her visa won’t be approved cause I intend for her to travel alone
Adunnishugar(f): 11:45pm On Apr 27
Adunnishugar:
Hello house
Please we recently submitted a visit visa application for my mother in law.
How ever we just realised we mistakenly excluded our tenancy agreement which was meant to be the accommodation proof. So in the accommodation segment of the document there was nothing there.

However in the invitation letter we stated that she will be residing at our home, and we put our address there. This is also the same address on our t bank statement which we ed as Proof of funds.


Please do you think this is enough to make up for the mistake made ?



Visit visa approved for my mother in law
Standard application
Biometrics: 10th April
Decision received: 24th April
Collected: next day



My question now is. Please is it okay to apply for a visa for my younger sister just few weeks after my Mother in laws’s application. I will be sponsoring my sister and using the same for POF. Their trip would not be clashing. My sister would arrive after my MIL has returned
crackcrack: 12:28am On Apr 28
Adunnishugar:




Visit visa approved for my mother in law
Standard application
Biometrics: 10th April
Decision received: 24th April
Collected: next day



My question now is. Please is it okay to apply for a visa for my younger sister just few weeks after my Mother in laws’s application. I will be sponsoring my sister and using the same for POF. Their trip would not be clashing. My sister would arrive after my MIL has returned

I don’t see why not. Your sister’s application would be considered on its own merits and based on her own circumstances. As I’m sure you know, it’s not so much about the sponsor — what matters most is the individual who’s applying for the visa.

I did something a little bit similar to what you’re planning. I applied for my visa and got it. Two weeks later, I fully sponsored my mother’s application and provided the exact same bank statement I submitted for my own application. But I also submitted documents that painted my mother’s own circumstances in Nigeria to show why she won’t be running away to the UK. Her visa was also granted.

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Adunnishugar(f): 3:12am On Apr 28
crackcrack:


I don’t see why not. Your sister’s application would be considered on its own merits and based on her own circumstances. As I’m sure you know, it’s not so much about the sponsor — what matters most is the individual who’s applying for the visa.

I did something a little bit similar to what you’re planning. I applied for my visa and got it. Two weeks later, I fully sponsored my mother’s application and provided the exact same bank statement I submitted for my own application. But I also submitted documents that painted my mother’s own circumstances in Nigeria to show why she won’t be running away to the UK. Her visa was also granted.

Oh that’s great
Thank you for sharing,
I would submit all the necessary documents
Cashmadam: 7:16am On Apr 28
Adunnishugar:



Thank you for responding

I will confirm this with the airline before booking

Or please does this mean her visa won’t be approved cause I intend for her to travel alone

Honestly, I don't know the current situation. In the past (due to child trafficking issues), a minor must apply for visa with the adult he/she intends to travel with. On the child's visa form, the port number of at most two adults must be included. The port number of the adult(s) will then be endorsed on the child's visa. That was my experience with my children till they became adults.

I'm not sure how it's done in the last 5 years or so.

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Adunnishugar(f): 1:48pm On Apr 28
Cashmadam:


Honestly, I don't know the current situation. In the past (due to child trafficking issues), a minor must apply for visa with the adult he/she intends to travel with. On the child's visa form, the port number of at most two adults must be included. The port number of the adult(s) will then be endorsed on the child's visa. That was my experience with my children till they became adults.

I'm not sure how it's done in the last 5 years or so.



Thank you,
I’m guessing it might have changed cause I got this information from gov.uk (see attached images)

But either way I will give the application a try and share the result.

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owiatjuoreda: 10:29pm On Apr 28
Hello all
Please help my parents Uk visit visa was rejected for the second time, first time was income discrepancies, the second time we explained and submitted a lot of documents, when I say a lot it was a lot!!! Now they say CAC is not active but it is active we even submitted a screenshot showing its active. What can we do without starting the process all over again. No rights to appeal or istrative processing.
crackcrack: 1:48am On Apr 29
owiatjuoreda:
Hello all
Please help my parents Uk visit visa was rejected for the second time, first time was income discrepancies, the second time we explained and submitted a lot of documents, when I say a lot it was a lot!!! Now they say CAC is not active but it is active we even submitted a screenshot showing its active. What can we do without starting the process all over again. No rights to appeal or istrative processing.

Are you sure it is active? And most importantly, are you sure it was active on the day the application was considered? If the answers to those questions is yes, then you should file a complaint with the Home Office.

Send an email to [email protected]. Explain that the ECO falsely claimed that your CAC was inactive. Mention that you submitted a screenshot proving it was active. Attach the screenshot to the email.

The Home Office will respond. Let us know what they say, if you feel like sharing.

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maziemeka2024: 5:15pm On Apr 29
owiatjuoreda:
Hello all
Please help my parents Uk visit visa was rejected for the second time, first time was income discrepancies, the second time we explained and submitted a lot of documents, when I say a lot it was a lot!!! Now they say CAC is not active but it is active we even submitted a screenshot showing its active. What can we do without starting the process all over again. No rights to appeal or istrative processing.

Is that the only reason for the refusal?
owiatjuoreda: 5:49pm On Apr 29
maziemeka2024:


Is that the only reason for the refusal?

Yes that was the only reason and they rejected my mummy because my daddy is rejected that was their reason. They even have Schengen visa and are planning to go to after Uk and we attached the visa this morning. This is the church still active this morning.

owiatjuoreda: 5:50pm On Apr 29
crackcrack:


Are you sure it is active? And most importantly, are you sure it was active on the day the application was considered? If the answers to those questions is yes, then you should file a complaint with the Home Office.

Send an email to [email protected]. Explain that the ECO falsely claimed that your CAC was inactive. Mention that you submitted a screenshot proving it was active. Attach the screenshot to the email.

Thank you. I still checked this morning and is active.
The Home Office will respond. Let us know what they say, if you feel like sharing.
solid3(m): 8:06pm On Apr 29
What do you do if vfs says your statement pdf file has virus, do you convert like 100 pages to jpeg format? Or what do you do?
lekefew: 8:38pm On Apr 29
Convert it to jpeg, and then convert all the jpeg files back into 1 pdf file. This did the trick for me.

https://www.ilovepdf.com/pdf_to_jpg
https://www.ilovepdf.com/jpg_to_pdf

solid3:
What do you do if vfs says your statement pdf file has virus, do you convert like 100 pages to jpeg format? Or what do you do?

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sharkdodo14: 6:44am On Apr 30
Greetings to you all.


Please, has anyone used Airpeace of recent? If yes, how is the queue and waiting time at the Gatwick border? Is it better or longer than its Heathrow counterpart? Thanks.
Knowlegeseeking: 11:35am On Apr 30
Same issue with my mum's application which just came in today. second refusal. The first was in November 2023 inviting her and my twin for my graduation. My twin was her sponsor and she was only refused because my twin was refused. My twin applied again last October and got his visa. Came last December 2024, spent 3 weeks and went back to Nigeria. Re-applied for my mum earlier this month and just got another rejection for her with 2 flimsy excuses.

1. You state that you are Unemployed have no other source of income. In consideration of your family ties I note the statements made by you in your visa application whereby you mention there are no remaining dependants in your home country. This, in conjunction with the concerns relating to your economic ties stated above, gives me reason to further doubt that you will depart the UK at the end of the period stated by you.

First, in her application, we never stated unemployed. My mum is a retired civil servant of Lagos which we stated attaching all her employment letters, promotion letters to level 17 and retirement letter. We also attached her landed properties including the one she resides in, bank statement showing pension income and rental income from her properties and additional income she receives from us her children, all explained in the cover letter. Nowhere in her application did we state she has no remaining dependants in her home country. Infact, on her cover letter, we stated that she has three other children including my twin who is resident in Nigeria, attaching their port as well.

2. Second reason was "You have indicated that your sponsor will pay £1,500 towards the cost of your trip. In of this you have provided a bank statement from Lloyds Bank ( number ending in 2463) However, the funds are regularly depleted indicating that your sponsor utilises nearly all their income each month. For example, as recently as 27th March 2025 the balance of their was £0.50. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor can and will provide you with for the intended duration of your stay. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph V4.3 (c) of the Immigration Rules"

This is another nonsense because the six months bank statement i submitted alongside with six months payslips shows steady savings into my moneybox simple saver and cash ISA s with balance of over 10k pounds (i attached these statements as well). The EO just picked that date out of the 6 months which is ridiculous as that same statement shows a balance of almost 3k balance as at 31 March.

I have drafted a response to send to [email protected] highlighting these discrepancies.

Should i go this route or through PAP? it's okay to refuse an application but not on flimsy excuses that were evidently provided for.


owiatjuoreda:
Hello all
Please help my parents Uk visit visa was rejected for the second time, first time was income discrepancies, the second time we explained and submitted a lot of documents, when I say a lot it was a lot!!! Now they say CAC is not active but it is active we even submitted a screenshot showing its active. What can we do without starting the process all over again. No rights to appeal or istrative processing.
crackcrack: 11:41am On Apr 30
Knowlegeseeking:
Same issue with my mum's application which just came in today. second refusal. The first was in November 2023 inviting her and my twin for my graduation. My twin was her sponsor and she was only refused because my twin was refused. My twin applied again last October and got his visa. Came last December 2024, spent 3 weeks and went back to Nigeria. Re-applied for my mum earlier this month and just got another rejection for her with 2 flimsy excuses.

1. You state that you are Unemployed have no other source of income. In consideration of your family ties I note the statements made by you in your visa application whereby you mention there are no remaining dependants in your home country. This, in conjunction with the concerns relating to your economic ties stated above, gives me reason to further doubt that you will depart the UK at the end of the period stated by you.

First, in her application, we never stated unemployed. My mum is a retired civil servant of Lagos which we stated attaching all her employment letters, promotion letters to level 17 and retirement letter. We also attached her landed properties including the one she resides in, bank statement showing pension income and rental income from her properties and additional income she receives from us her children, all explained in the cover letter. Nowhere in her application did we state she has no remaining dependants in her home country. Infact, on her cover letter, we stated that she has three other children including my twin who is resident in Nigeria, attaching their port as well.

2. Second reason was "You have indicated that your sponsor will pay £1,500 towards the cost of your trip. In of this you have provided a bank statement from Lloyds Bank ( number ending in 2463) However, the funds are regularly depleted indicating that your sponsor utilises nearly all their income each month. For example, as recently as 27th March 2025 the balance of their was £0.50. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor can and will provide you with for the intended duration of your stay. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph V4.3 (c) of the Immigration Rules"

This is another nonsense because the six months bank statement i submitted alongside with six months payslips shows steady savings into my moneybox simple saver and cash ISA s with balance of over 10k pounds (i attached these statements as well). The EO just picked that date out of the 6 months which is ridiculous as that same statement shows a balance of almost 3k balance as at 31 March.

I have drafted a response to send to [email protected] highlighting these discrepancies.

Should i go this route or through PAP? it's okay to refuse an application but not on flimsy excuses that were evidently provided for.



Send the email to the Home Office Complaints Team. Make sure you highlight the incompetence of the ECO, who deemed your mother unemployed when you never claimed that.

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D1O(m): 11:55am On Apr 30
Knowlegeseeking:
Same issue with my mum's application which just came in today. second refusal. The first was in November 2023 inviting her and my twin for my graduation. My twin was her sponsor and she was only refused because my twin was refused. My twin applied again last October and got his visa. Came last December 2024, spent 3 weeks and went back to Nigeria. Re-applied for my mum earlier this month and just got another rejection for her with 2 flimsy excuses.

1. You state that you are Unemployed have no other source of income. In consideration of your family ties I note the statements made by you in your visa application whereby you mention there are no remaining dependants in your home country. This, in conjunction with the concerns relating to your economic ties stated above, gives me reason to further doubt that you will depart the UK at the end of the period stated by you.

First, in her application, we never stated unemployed. In the section of the application form that SPECIFICALLY asks "What is your employment status?" What answer did you select? My mum is a retired civil servant of Lagos which we stated attaching all her employment letters, promotion letters to level 17 and retirement letter. We also attached her landed properties including the one she resides in, bank statement showing pension income and rental income from her properties and additional income she receives from us her children, all explained in the cover letter. Nowhere in her application did we state she has no remaining dependants in her home country. In the section of the application form that SPECIFICALLY asks "Does anyone rely on you for financial ? Include both those travelling with you and those who are not." What answer did you select? If you answered yes, the form would ask you to list those people and what the relationship is. Whom did you list? Infact, on her cover letter, we stated that she has three other children including my twin who is resident in Nigeria, attaching their port as well.

2. Second reason was "You have indicated that your sponsor will pay £1,500 towards the cost of your trip. In of this you have provided a bank statement from Lloyds Bank ( number ending in 2463) However, the funds are regularly depleted indicating that your sponsor utilises nearly all their income each month. For example, as recently as 27th March 2025 the balance of their was £0.50. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor can and will provide you with for the intended duration of your stay. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph V4.3 (c) of the Immigration Rules"

This is another nonsense because the six months bank statement i submitted alongside with six months payslips shows steady savings into my moneybox simple saver and cash ISA s with balance of over 10k pounds (i attached these statements as well). The EO just picked that date out of the 6 months which is ridiculous as that same statement shows a balance of almost 3k balance as at 31 March.

I have drafted a response to send to [email protected] highlighting these discrepancies.

Should i go this route or through PAP? it's okay to refuse an application but not on flimsy excuses that were evidently provided for.


nepapole(m): 12:54pm On Apr 30
Hi guys,

My mother in-law's uk visit visa was rejected.

We intend to try again in 3 to 4 months time and will like to seek advise on what we should or can do better to boost her chances.

Many thanks.

Knowlegeseeking: 1:12pm On Apr 30
Hi D10,
we noted retired.
we noted no.

[quote author=D1O post=135184179][/quote]

Abbebbay: 2:25pm On Apr 30
Please what date was her biometrics done ...


nepapole:
Hi guys,

My mother in-law's uk visit visa was rejected.

We intend to try again in 3 to 4 months time and will like to seek advise on what we should or can do better to boost her chances.

Many thanks.
Abbebbay: 2:26pm On Apr 30
Please what date was her biometrics done ...




nepapole:
Hi guys,

My mother in-law's uk visit visa was rejected.

We intend to try again in 3 to 4 months time and will like to seek advise on what we should or can do better to boost her chances.

Many thanks.
Abbebbay: 2:28pm On Apr 30
Please what date was her biometrics done?...



quote author=Knowlegeseeking post=135183944]Same issue with my mum's application which just came in today. second refusal. The first was in November 2023 inviting her and my twin for my graduation. My twin was her sponsor and she was only refused because my twin was refused. My twin applied again last October and got his visa. Came last December 2024, spent 3 weeks and went back to Nigeria. Re-applied for my mum earlier this month and just got another rejection for her with 2 flimsy excuses.

1. You state that you are Unemployed have no other source of income. In consideration of your family ties I note the statements made by you in your visa application whereby you mention there are no remaining dependants in your home country. This, in conjunction with the concerns relating to your economic ties stated above, gives me reason to further doubt that you will depart the UK at the end of the period stated by you.

First, in her application, we never stated unemployed. My mum is a retired civil servant of Lagos which we stated attaching all her employment letters, promotion letters to level 17 and retirement letter. We also attached her landed properties including the one she resides in, bank statement showing pension income and rental income from her properties and additional income she receives from us her children, all explained in the cover letter. Nowhere in her application did we state she has no remaining dependants in her home country. Infact, on her cover letter, we stated that she has three other children including my twin who is resident in Nigeria, attaching their port as well.

2. Second reason was "You have indicated that your sponsor will pay £1,500 towards the cost of your trip. In of this you have provided a bank statement from Lloyds Bank ( number ending in 2463) However, the funds are regularly depleted indicating that your sponsor utilises nearly all their income each month. For example, as recently as 27th March 2025 the balance of their was £0.50. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor can and will provide you with for the intended duration of your stay. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph V4.3 (c) of the Immigration Rules"

This is another nonsense because the six months bank statement i submitted alongside with six months payslips shows steady savings into my moneybox simple saver and cash ISA s with balance of over 10k pounds (i attached these statements as well). The EO just picked that date out of the 6 months which is ridiculous as that same statement shows a balance of almost 3k balance as at 31 March.

I have drafted a response to send to [email protected] highlighting these discrepancies.

Should i go this route or through PAP? it's okay to refuse an application but not on flimsy excuses that were evidently provided for.


[/quote]
HealthCas: 3:13pm On Apr 30
Adunnishugar:




Visit visa approved for my mother in law
Standard application
Biometrics: 10th April
Decision received: 24th April
Collected: next day



My question now is. Please is it okay to apply for a visa for my younger sister just few weeks after my Mother in laws’s application. I will be sponsoring my sister and using the same for POF. Their trip would not be clashing. My sister would arrive after my MIL has returned

Congrats, how much is your PoF?
lekefew: 3:24pm On Apr 30
I'm no expert by any means but I think the the rejection is simply based on:
1. She has no professional ties to Nigeria or you have not provided evidence that she does. She's retired which is basically same as being unemployed, bottom line, they both mean you currently don't have an income from a job (which will keep you in the country, in other words "Tie"wink. Yes you submitted her previous payslips and letter of promotion, retirement letter and all that, but that only proves she had a job before, not currently. "Currently" is what they care about and proves professional ties.

2. She has no family ties or you have not provided evidence that she does. In the question in the application where you were asked if she has dependants. You chose no, which means she has nobody depending on her presence in Nigeria. Yes she has other children living in Nigeria like you said, but they're no depending on her. So in that regard, she has no "tie"

I know you said you ed land documents, I'm guessing the ECO just sees is like since she's missing family ties and professional ties, she could easily be moving abroad to stay with her sponsor. The fact that she has a land no longer holds much weight at that point, since it's not going anywhere.

This is my own opinion though, I try to think from the ECO's perspective when I look at rejections before concluding that rejection was baseless.

Knowlegeseeking:
Hi D10,
we noted retired.
we noted no.

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crackcrack: 3:50pm On Apr 30
lekefew:
I'm no expert by any means but I think the the rejection is simply based on:
1. She has no professional ties to Nigeria or you have not provided evidence that she does. She's retired which is basically same as being unemployed, bottom line, they both mean you currently don't have an income from a job (which will keep you in the country, in other words "Tie"wink. Yes you submitted her previous payslips and letter of promotion, retirement letter and all that, but that only proves she had a job before, not currently. "Currently" is what they care about and proves professional ties.

2. She has no family ties or you have not provided evidence that she does. In the question in the application where you were asked if she has dependants. You chose no, which means she has nobody depending on her presence in Nigeria. Yes she has other children living in Nigeria like you said, but they're no depending on her. So in that regard, she has no "tie"

I know you said you ed land documents, I'm guessing the ECO just sees is like since she's missing family ties and professional ties, she could easily be moving abroad to stay with her sponsor. The fact that she has a land no longer holds much weight at that point, since it's not going anywhere.

This is my own opinion though, I try to think from the ECO's perspective when I look at rejections before concluding that rejection was baseless.


You are right to try to look at things from the ECO’s point of view. But in this case, the ECO has clearly misrepresented what was submitted on the application form. Unemployed is different from Retired — and the difference is not a small one. Retired implies pension income, which the Poster said they submitted evidence of. That’s a home tie right there. They also submitted evidence of rental income. Another home tie.

A lack of dependents in Nigeria is not a criteria to have your visa refused. I have no dependents — not married, no kids, no elderly parent that needs me — and yet, my visas have never been refused. Applied for my mother, who also has no dependents, and she too received her visa.

A lot of these ECOs are beyond incompetent, to say the least. Read some refusal letters and you’ll see fantastic errors, from grammatical blunders to downright misstating of facts. We should never take their words as gospel.

I cannot guarantee that the Home Office will backtrack and grant the visa, but I believe a complaint is in order in this case.

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lekefew: 4:11pm On Apr 30
You're 100% correct. I've actually seen some refusal letters that just don't make sense. But I still try to see reasons with the ones that make sense and try to understand.

About the rental income, yes she mentioned that. I forgot to include that in my post. The ECO stated that there was no evidence to proof that the income came to her. They only submitted receipts from what I read (I'm guessing receipts issued to the tenants), the ECO will try to match that with a proof that shows the money actually came to her, like a bank statement, because otherwise, that money for rent could have gone to any other person or the money was put into another use. I'm not defending the ECO, God knows I've had my own fair share or immigration wahala.

Dependants does prove family ties, especially when you're not travelling with your dependants. They see that has, you will definitely come back to them and you're only going away briefly. The fact that you got your visa without dependants does not matter. You got yours based on other merits I'm sure. With visas I find that you don't have to check all their boxes, you only have to check enough boxes to convince them.

So for me, I see it like... Landed property check, Rental income unhecked because there's no proof (receipt don't proof she got the money as the ECO said, professional tie unchecked, family ties unchecked due to no dependant, that's a score of 1/4.

You don't need 4/4, a 3/4 or maybe even a 2 would have been fine

crackcrack:


You are right to try to look at things from the ECO’s point of view. But in this case, the ECO has clearly misrepresented what was submitted on the application form. Unemployed is different from Retired — and the difference is not a small one. Retired implies pension income, which the Poster said they submitted evidence of. That’s a home tie right there. They also submitted evidence of rental income. Another home tie.

A lack of dependents in Nigeria is not a criteria to have your visa refused. I have no dependents — not married, no kids, no elderly parent that needs me — and yet, my visas have never been refused. Applied for my mother, who also has no dependents, and she too received her visa.

A lot of these ECOs are beyond incompetent, to say the least. Read some refusal letters and you’ll see fantastic errors, from grammatical blunders to downright misstating of facts. We should never take their words as gospel.

I cannot guarantee that the Home Office will backtrack and grant the visa, but I believe a complaint is in order in this case.
Knowlegeseeking: 4:27pm On Apr 30
10th of April 2025

Abbebbay:
Please what date was her biometrics done?...



quote author=Knowlegeseeking post=135183944]Same issue with my mum's application which just came in today. second refusal. The first was in November 2023 inviting her and my twin for my graduation. My twin was her sponsor and she was only refused because my twin was refused. My twin applied again last October and got his visa. Came last December 2024, spent 3 weeks and went back to Nigeria. Re-applied for my mum earlier this month and just got another rejection for her with 2 flimsy excuses.

1. You state that you are Unemployed have no other source of income. In consideration of your family ties I note the statements made by you in your visa application whereby you mention there are no remaining dependants in your home country. This, in conjunction with the concerns relating to your economic ties stated above, gives me reason to further doubt that you will depart the UK at the end of the period stated by you.

First, in her application, we never stated unemployed. My mum is a retired civil servant of Lagos which we stated attaching all her employment letters, promotion letters to level 17 and retirement letter. We also attached her landed properties including the one she resides in, bank statement showing pension income and rental income from her properties and additional income she receives from us her children, all explained in the cover letter. Nowhere in her application did we state she has no remaining dependants in her home country. Infact, on her cover letter, we stated that she has three other children including my twin who is resident in Nigeria, attaching their port as well.

2. Second reason was "You have indicated that your sponsor will pay £1,500 towards the cost of your trip. In of this you have provided a bank statement from Lloyds Bank ( number ending in 2463) However, the funds are regularly depleted indicating that your sponsor utilises nearly all their income each month. For example, as recently as 27th March 2025 the balance of their was £0.50. I am therefore not satisfied that your sponsor can and will provide you with for the intended duration of your stay. Your application is therefore refused under paragraph V4.3 (c) of the Immigration Rules"

This is another nonsense because the six months bank statement i submitted alongside with six months payslips shows steady savings into my moneybox simple saver and cash ISA s with balance of over 10k pounds (i attached these statements as well). The EO just picked that date out of the 6 months which is ridiculous as that same statement shows a balance of almost 3k balance as at 31 March.

I have drafted a response to send to [email protected] highlighting these discrepancies.

Should i go this route or through PAP? it's okay to refuse an application but not on flimsy excuses that were evidently provided for.


Knowlegeseeking: 4:35pm On Apr 30
Professional ties to Nigeria? please what professional ties should a retired widow have? We submitted landed documents of where she curretly stays with rental agreement of four her tenants. on the cover letter, we wrote that one of her bank statement receives rental income and money from us her kids which all ties and that's why the ECO couldn't have used that as a reason.

2. On the question in the application, it clearly stated "financial dependants" not just dependants. I and my twin are her last born and we are both married. Nobody depends on her for anything. She is retired, who would be depending on her financially at this age? what other family ties other than her other 3 children and relatives who live and reside in Nigeria and her investments and properties?

Are you saying every parents invited to the UK and have been granted visas have a "professional tie" and have people depending on them financially? My mum is 67.

lekefew:
I'm no expert by any means but I think the the rejection is simply based on:
1. She has no professional ties to Nigeria or you have not provided evidence that she does. She's retired which is basically same as being unemployed, bottom line, they both mean you currently don't have an income from a job (which will keep you in the country, in other words "Tie"wink. Yes you submitted her previous payslips and letter of promotion, retirement letter and all that, but that only proves she had a job before, not currently. "Currently" is what they care about and proves professional ties.

2. She has no family ties or you have not provided evidence that she does. In the question in the application where you were asked if she has dependants. You chose no, which means she has nobody depending on her presence in Nigeria. Yes she has other children living in Nigeria like you said, but they're no depending on her. So in that regard, she has no "tie"

I know you said you ed land documents, I'm guessing the ECO just sees is like since she's missing family ties and professional ties, she could easily be moving abroad to stay with her sponsor. The fact that she has a land no longer holds much weight at that point, since it's not going anywhere.

This is my own opinion though, I try to think from the ECO's perspective when I look at rejections before concluding that rejection was baseless.

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Knowlegeseeking: 4:41pm On Apr 30
I think you are mistaken mine with someone else. No where in the refusal email did the ECO state anything relating to rental income or evidence of proof of it coming to her.

lekefew:
You're 100% correct. I've actually seen some refusal letters that just don't make sense. But I still try to see reasons with the ones that make sense and try to understand.

About the rental income, yes she mentioned that. I forgot to include that in my post. The ECO stated that there was no evidence to proof that the income came to her. They only submitted receipts from what I read (I'm guessing receipts issued to the tenants), the ECO will try to match that with a proof that shows the money actually came to her, like a bank statement, because otherwise, that money for rent could have gone to any other person or the money was put into another use. I'm not defending the ECO, God knows I've had my own fair share or immigration wahala.

Dependants does prove family ties, especially when you're not travelling with your dependants. They see that has, you will definitely come back to them and you're only going away briefly. The fact that you got your visa without dependants does not matter. You got yours based on other merits I'm sure. With visas I find that you don't have to check all their boxes, you only have to check enough boxes to convince them.

So for me, I see it like... Landed property check, Rental income unhecked because there's no proof (receipt don't proof she got the money as the ECO said, professional tie unchecked, family ties unchecked due to no dependant, that's a score of 1/4.

You don't need 4/4, a 3/4 or maybe even a 2 would have been fine

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