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Mckandre(m): 10:49am On Apr 25
What sort of rubbish is this? we're now making threats to be critical too,from taking an oath to making threats, omo,seun why u too bias? feels like ure being held by the balls. undecided pls remove this or add it to the Christianity section as well

Pickieox(m): 10:53am On Apr 25
Seun:
Dear Nairalanders,

By popular demand, we have ended the swearing of oaths before commenting on the Islam section.

However, the requirement to engage muslims and all Nairalanders with decency and respect remains.

We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

We have renamed the Religion board as the Christianity Etc board, recognizing the fact that most non-Muslims are Christians.

Please enjoy! And feel free to share your about these changes.


What of others who don't believe in the religion bvllsh!t. What of the African Traditional Religion, the Buddhists, Hinduists, the Freethinkers, and others?

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shinaola21(m): 10:54am On Apr 25
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Seun abeg turn this platform to FB,let it have message button instead of Gmail ,let us be able to post images on our profile

And ban those people who insult you for speaking our opinions

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CodeTemplarr: 10:54am On Apr 25
adams123:
I'm a Muslim and I the removal of the oath-taking before commenting on Islam posts, as that would allow non-Muslims to freely read and learn more about Islam
what is the point commenting so much about a religion that is owned by fanatics who can disregard you?
psalmsjob: 10:55am On Apr 25
Seun:
Dear Nairalanders,

By popular demand, we have ended the swearing of oaths before commenting on the Islam section.

However, the requirement to engage muslims and all Nairalanders with decency and respect remains.

We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

We have renamed the Religion board as the Christianity Etc board, recognizing the fact that most non-Muslims are Christians.

Please enjoy! And feel free to share your about these changes.

This is just great. I now know for certain that you truly listen to us and ready to make Nairaland greater again.

I personally called for this even though my own faith in Jesus for my salvation which I cannot honestly term myself a Christian based on how Christianity has been mixed up with Judaism more so in Nigeria than anywhere else. I can swear to everything you put up as conditions to comment on the Islamic section but I didn't because of the main question "Are you a Muslim?" but the others like; " do you believe that God/Allah is one?", yes I do; "Do you believe that prophet Mohammed is the servant of God/Allah?", yes I do; and "Allah is one and Mohammed is His true prophet?" Yes I do. A true Christian shouldn't have problem agreeing with those statements or questions because they don't contradict your faith as a Christian but I couldn't say honestly that I'm a Muslim that's why I never lied and swore to them because of that first question.

I called for it to be removed for the sake of fairness and in fairness again I request that you create a section for Ifa religion too. The assumption that non Muslims are Christians is subjective. It is a very important religion too and the "iwa pele" that it teaches can help Nigerians become good people too as God wants every religion to lead people to him and become more like Him.

Thank you Oga Seun!
Long live Nairaland!
Long live Nairalanders!
Long live Nigeria!

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LegalWolf: 10:55am On Apr 25
TenQ:

And give Atheists, Philosophers, African traditional religions and others a section of their own.


This is not only fair but appropriate!

I this!

Edited: In fact, I have responded before realising this is from a familiar handle. Hope you are good?

Cheers!

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Firebomber: 10:58am On Apr 25
BrighterSyde:


I intend to do just that as it seems to be the fastest growing religion. However can you explain to me what the Quran means by saying you people should fight and terrorize those who do not believe in allah until they are made to willingly pay jizra or what do you call it?
It seems you need to start your research from the base of the reason why the Islam is the fastest growing religion.

1. Islam is the only religion on earth that called for the death of anyone that dump it
Don't let the lied to you, ask them the reason why all their Islamic countries have a death penalties for anyone that leave Islam. What's their Islam so afraid of?

2. The only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because of high fertility rate
They gave birth like rats and pigs just to keeps up with the population and they don't care if the children are been taken care or not. Tell us which sane religion only care about population and not the well-being of the followers 😂

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/


Have you ever asked yourself why is it that any religious attacked is always a Muslim attacking none Muslim religious house. Just this year alone I can show you how many churches have been burnt down by the so called Muslims jihadist but they can never show you just a single mosque that was burnt down by none Muslim.

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sagitariusbaby(m): 11:13am On Apr 25
Seun:

I am an atheist. So I am part of the Etc, and it doesn't bother me. I'm happy to use the Christianity Etc board to rub minds with Christians.
That is disrespectful to Christians. Christianity should stand alone like you did Islam, you may then group your wannabe atheist with whatsoever etc you so pleased.

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heykims(m): 11:17am On Apr 25
Truejihadistont:

Muslims are also free to " preach" if they have to.
Who cares about your "space"?
People should learn u respect boundaries, I could see u are validating the irritating behaviour already.
Nahunger(m): 11:18am On Apr 25
Seun:
Dear Nairalanders,

By popular demand, we have ended the swearing of oaths before commenting on the Islam section.

However, the requirement to engage muslims and all Nairalanders with decency and respect remains.

We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

We have renamed the Religion board as the Christianity Etc board, recognizing the fact that most non-Muslims are Christians.

Please enjoy! And feel free to share your about these changes.

Seun add a platform for our African Traditional Religion.

As a true Muslim if you must come to equity you must come with fairness.

People need to see our cultural heritage, our traditional values just as Yoruba is celebrated across the shores of Africa.


Lumping our culture, traditional religion with other foreign religion is not fairness.

Apologies if you feel disrespected..



Farmerforgoats:
I am confused on the classification of ‘non-Muslims’ as Christians.

The terminology of being Christian should not be tied to Islam. What in the actual Bleep is Christian ETC?

It should stand alone like Islam does otherwise i see a useless bias that you an atheist promotes.

Seun you are spitting on your ancestors by reducing them to nothing in favour of our proud cultural heritage, one that the westerners came to steal our artifacts for public display in their measums etc.

Do the right thing....
I am not a traditionalist but I respect my Yoruba heritage 💯

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TenQ: 11:22am On Apr 25
DrRasheed:


Thanks for honest question.

This verse was revealed during a specific time of war between the early Muslim community and the Byzantine Empire. It was not a blanket command to terrorize or harm non-Muslims. Rather, it referred to defensive military campaigns against empires threatening the Muslim state at the time.

Jizya was a tax paid by non-Muslims in the Islamic state in exchange for protection and exemption from military service. Muslims, on the other hand, had to pay zakat (a different form of tax) and were required to serve in the military.

“Let there be no compulsion in religion…” (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256)
This verse makes it explicit that belief is a matter of free choice, not coercion. My brother, like many scriptures (including in the Bible), the Qur’an has verses that deal with war, especially because the early Muslim community faced persecution and war. But these are not blanket orders to fight unbelievers; they are tied to specific political or military contexts.


1. You forgot to tell our friend that Quran 9:5 had abrogated Qur'an 2:256
Quran 9:29
“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.”



2. Is the Qur'an or the Hadiths of your prophet for all times or just for the times of your prophet?

3. The Hadiths below show Muslims on the Offensive against others.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3929
Sulaiman b. Buraida told on his father’s authority that when God’s Messenger appointed a commander over an army or a detachment he instructed him to fear God himself and consider the welfare of the Muslims who were with him. He then said, “Go forth in God’s name in God’s path and fight with those who disbelieve in God. Go forth and do not be unfaithful regarding booty, or treacherous, or mutilate anyone, or kill a child. When you meet the polytheists who are your enemy summon them to three things, and accept whichever of them they are willing to agree to, and refrain from them. Then
1. summon them to Islam, and if they agree accept it from them and refrain from them.
2. Then summon them to leave their abodes and transfer to the abode of the Emigrants, and tell them that if they do so they will have the same rights and responsibilities as the Emigrants; but if they refuse to transfer from them tell them they will be like the desert Arabs who are Muslims, subject to God’s jurisdiction which applies to the believers, but will have no spoil or booty unless they strive with the Muslims.
3. If they refuse demand the jizya from them, and if they agree accept it from them and refrain from them; but if they refuse seek God’s help and fight with them.
When you invest a fortress and its people wish you to grant them the protection of God and His prophet, grant them neither but grant them your protection and that of your companions, for it is less serious to break your guarantee of protection and that of your companions than to break that of God and His Messenger. If you invest a fortress and its people offer to capitulate and have the matter referred to God’s jurisdiction, do not grant this, but let them capitulate and have the matter referred to your jurisdiction, for you do not know whether or not you will hit on God’s jurisdiction regarding them.”



Thanks

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TenQ: 11:24am On Apr 25
LegalWolf:


I this!

Edited: In fact, I have responded before realising this is from a familiar handle. Hope you are good?

Cheers!
How are you my friend!
Very long time!
How's work?

I am doing well, praise be to God!

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Konquest: 11:33am On Apr 25
Seun:
Dear Nairalanders,

By popular demand, we have ended the swearing of oaths before commenting on the Islam section.

However, the requirement to engage muslims and all Nairalanders with decency and respect remains.

We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

We have renamed the Religion board as the Christianity Etc board, recognizing the fact that most non-Muslims are Christians.

Please enjoy! And feel free to share your about these changes.
Blazebond(m): 11:35am On Apr 25
No,we don't agree as Christians,let us Christians have our oath of allegiance to our faith also,you allowed the Muslims to be able to comment on our Christian post for months without us Christians being able to comment on theirs without swearing a oath to their faith and now you just want us Christians to agree to your decision without our consent? This blog might be your blog but our voices and concerns must be heard and respected because we the visitors to your blog are the backbone of your blog.

I wonder what on earth even made you felt the need to put oath of allegiance to faiths in your blog,I wonder who ever gave you that idea and if I where you,I will fire that person and strip him/her of whatever position that person holds in this blog because that person is a religious zealots and lacks tolerance to criticism. I fight for the rights of the Palestinian people everyday on nairaland,tiktok, Facebook, Instagram and X (Twitter) not because of their religion but because I am human and I know what they are going through is terribly wrong and I am a fully fledged Christian,I fight for peoples rights because I believe in fairness and justice in Life.
Treasure17(m): 11:36am On Apr 25
You will live long seun.
Ekaka14: 11:47am On Apr 25
Greatness09:
Why person go dey swear before e comment 😂😂😂
Abi o...very cultic grin

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DrRasheed: 12:03pm On Apr 25
Firebomber:


It seems you have issue with understanding, just to show your level of hypocrisy here 😂

So your Islamic countries that called for the death of anyone that dump your Islam are not following your Islam right? 😂 😂 Seriously you people are hilariously hypocrite.

We see alot of the so called new Muslim convert in west that was saying all kind of thrash about Christianity yet no one called for their death, infact you hypocrite are busy sharing the false information online and happily glorying your idol, yet no one called for anyone head 😂


Trust me, I know your Islam enough to know how hypocrite you people are.

there is no agenda or ulterior motive here you didn’t get my points just like you didn’t understand. Did your politics and religious spaces that you are trying to infer
FiveFootNinja(m): 12:04pm On Apr 25
Seun:
Dear Nairalanders,

By popular demand, we have ended the swearing of oaths before commenting on the Islam section.

However, the requirement to engage muslims and all Nairalanders with decency and respect remains.

We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

We have renamed the Religion board as the Christianity Etc board, recognizing the fact that most non-Muslims are Christians.

Please enjoy! And feel free to share your about these changes.

Nah Seun, this is not it.

There was no need renaming the Religion section entirely if you ask me. You could have just created different subsections under the same "Religion" banner.

Islam already have one. You could have just created another for Christianity, then maybe one for Buddhist practicioners, one for traditionalists (Odinani) etc.

No religion is more important than the other. You of all people should know this.

Meanwhile, when are we finally getting our very own philosophy section, to discuss the meaning of life and ponder on the existential crisis besetting most Nigerians? 😁

If you do make one, make me mod abeg. 🙏🏽🤧
FiveFootNinja(m): 12:14pm On Apr 25
Seun:
We have promoted the Islam section to the top level because it's a very important religion.

I missed this the first time. What is this supposed to mean? More important based on what metric?

Lol, what?! 😂
iHart(m): 12:15pm On Apr 25
Truejihadistont:

Why not just leave it as RELIGION, and remove the darn oath
better

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FiveFootNinja(m): 12:16pm On Apr 25
DeepSight:


Long ago, in the storied history of Nairaland, it was said that there was a fatwaa/ death threat pronounced against Seun by some Muslims.

Lol, really? 😃
3seriez(m): 12:17pm On Apr 25
Thunderfayamods:

That is not a proof oga! This is internet anybody can disguise as anything. Regardless asking Christians to swear an oath is wrong. What about Muslims that insults Christians? Why is Seun not asking everyone to take an oath on Christian posts? That is pure religion bigotry!

I really don't see why someone will disguise and enter a Muslim thread and be hurling insults at islam & Muslims , if not for intolerant xtians. What's the aim of the disguise?
olayinka63: 12:21pm On Apr 25
Raf4:


What are you hiding about your religion? Everyone should have the freedom of ing or exiting any religion without constraints.
You want to protect yours, while you enjoy unhindered access to discuss, condemn and attack others'??
Oga open your brain. Thiis is not about ing or leaving a religion. Ask for yours if you feel you want it. Is that too difficult for you to understand? If all of you use same energy to request for withdrawal of oath on Islam thread to ask for yours, it will definitely be granted. What is acceptable in your religion may not be acceptable in mine. A lot of backward minded mad child on NL
NOETHNICITY(m): 12:33pm On Apr 25
BIGTinfotech:
Honestly, it wasn't impressive having to swear on one religion page and being free to comment on another without prejudice.
That was necessitated by the intolerant engagement of most Christians

It is better now as it with the mod banning intolerant people from making inflammatory comments about people’s religion
gulfer: 12:34pm On Apr 25
Will those that have been forcefully made to confess the Islamic faith have the attestation removed from their profile page
Please do not overlook that cool cool cool cool cool
TheAdvocate(m): 12:50pm On Apr 25
DrRasheed:
I pray one day, those blindly attacking Muslims and Islam pick up genuine interest and study the religion as westerners do.

Objective mind opens hearts to truth

Tell that to the Islamic clerics in Northern Nigeria. ALL their preaching is no Christians and Jesus.

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DeepSight(m): 12:54pm On Apr 25
FiveFootNinja:


Lol, really? 😃

Yup. It was well known.
Firebomber: 12:54pm On Apr 25
DrRasheed:


there is no agenda or ulterior motive here you didn’t get my points just like you didn’t understand. Did your politics and religious spaces that you are trying to infer

Sell that to those gullible people you are brainwashing with your hypocrisy.

You still don't answer my question.

Why did all your Islamic countries called for the death of anyone that dump your islam


Guess "Objective mind opens hearts to truth" doesn't apply here 😂

Hypocrite

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