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These Smartphone Companies Are Taking Us For A Ride And It's Your Fault Too (1613 Views)
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atheistandproud(m): 11:02am On Apr 20 |
Inquisitive Universe: Hello and a happy Sunday to you. I want to discuss the proliferation of the MediaTek Helio G100 and how it has essentially become the staple of the lower mid-range market in many developing (third world) countries. The MediaTek Helio G100 is a rebadged MediaTek Helio G99 which is in turn a renamed Helio G96 which is a rearranged Helio G95 and finally a repackaged Helio G90T. This family of SoCs is a group of lower mid-range 4G LTE processors that were very popular between 2019 and 2022. However with the rise of performance levels and Android requirements, other SoCs like the Dimensity series and Qualcomm's 6 and 7 Gen mid-range series have taken the limelight. Whilst most parts of the world have moved on to cheap 5G processors with equivalent or far better performance like the Dimensity 6020, 6080, 7020, 7300, Unisoc T820, Snapdragon 4 Gen and 6 Gen SoCs, many parts of the developing world are still being laden with these old processors. I recently did a video talking about the best phones that one could pick up between 300-400k Naira (<$260 USD) and the entirely list was dominated with phones using Helio G100 and G99. This takes me back to the good old dark days of 2016/2017 when one SoC strode the developing landscape like a Colossus. Meet the MediaTek MT6580. A lot of phones produced for the Mid-range market then used this very processor. Even successors and grand children of phone lines up to 3 generations used the MediaTek 6580. It was only the introduction of 64-bit only apps that ended that trend. After being found out, the OEMs decided to switch over to Helio P22 as their new mascot from 2019 till some time around 2021/22. In that time period, a lot of other OEMs in different parts of the world were using more modern SoCs which brought performance on a budget and all that. But these companies stubbornly persisted with using the MT6580 and the Helio P22. It now appears that the trend is back with the MediaTek Helio G100. They've been using this same SoC for 5 years now. All they've been doing is increasing clock speed here and camera resolution there. These only offer small boosts in performance and functionality but in the end, it's the same processor. I know a lot of people, and I've seen many, will argue strongly that the processor is only one part of the phone and that there's more to a phone than performance. They'll point at the fact that lower mid-range 4G phones have better 1080p OLED displays and high resolution cameras that can capture very good photos and videos. I was at Pointek yesterday to look over the Camon 40 Pro for a review and it's display was incredibly sharp. They'll argue about fast charge, big batteries and a lot of things that many lower mid-range 5G phones do not have. I've met the ones that will tell you that 5G is a gimmick and that it's fake. For someone who plays eFootball online on a PS5 with 5G network and actually wins. I always find this argument funny. So as I've argued in the past and will continue to do, the SoC of a phone doesn't just indicate performance but it also manages everything on the phone from software to cameras and so much more. Imagine using a Redmi Note 11 Pro from 2022, only to go back into the market in 2025 to meet newer phones with the same processor? Lower mid-range 5G are being made to look weak by design. This is to prevent people from picking them up. The 720p displays, weak cameras, 18W fast charge and all that are meant to discourage people. Meanwhile they're packing high end OLED displays, 45W fast charge, Sony Lyta cameras or high end Omnivision cameras with aluminum frames on 4G phones. Think slowly about the message that this es to average Joe on the street. Just think about it. There are better and quite frankly affordable SoCs that will improve the average smartphone experience for the end but these companies for some reason are trying to hold on to the 4G era. So they can milk it for all it's worth. So for now, everyone looking for a good phone is stuck with a Helio G99 or G100 phone for the foreseeable future. If you want to escape the 4G utopia, you'll have to cough up 500k+, or do your research and make smarter choices. I can call Poco X7 off the top of my head. This is from a video I'm supposed to make but I've decided to share it. Please let me know what you think. Good evening. I'm available on Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, Telegram and WhatsApp if you want more smartphone focused articles. 12 Likes 3 Shares |
DONFRANSKID(m): 11:59am On Apr 20 |
Thank you for this thread, I really hope this will educate tech illiterate folks. As I was reading something was ringing on my mind and it was transsion transsion. They are the culprit. 3 Likes |
atheistandproud(m): 12:22pm On Apr 20 |
DONFRANSKID: You're welcome boss but they're all on this table. Especially Redmi who have been Transsion 2.0. Redmi Note 10 Pro - SD732G Redmi Note 11 S/Pro Helio - G96 Redmi Note 12S - Helio G96 Redmi Note 12 Pro - SD732G Redmi Note 13 Pro - Helio G99 Redmi Note 14 - Helio G99 Redmi Note 14S - Helio G99 Redmi Note 14 Pro - Helio G100 Mind you, G96, G99, G100 are all the same. They only added 0.2GHz speed and higher res camera . 8 Likes |
DONFRANSKID(m): 1:11pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud: |
Skye123: 3:49pm On Apr 20 |
This is insightful
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zainkay: 5:02pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud:They fell off real bad. |
IdeeEsperanza(m): 6:25pm On Apr 20 |
This is serious. So what's the upgrade there?
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IdeeEsperanza(m): 6:26pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud: So bad. And most people don't even know this. Could they be taking advantage of people's ignorance? 7 Likes |
Rexymania(m): 6:42pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud: They don't want us to grow, or is it that we are not rich enough? 2 Likes |
atheistandproud(m): 7:06pm On Apr 20 |
IdeeEsperanza: The obvious answer is yes 3 Likes |
atheistandproud(m): 7:08pm On Apr 20 |
Rexymania: They probably think we're stupid and a lot of us are 3 Likes |
OnuChuks: 7:10pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud: It's the same with entry level phone the new G81 ultra Soc, is the renamed G85, which is also a renamed G80 1 Like |
atheistandproud(m): 7:12pm On Apr 20 |
OnuChuks: Check my latest post Even the Helio G80 is a renamed Helio G70 😂😂😂 2 Likes |
Helbebu: 7:22pm On Apr 20 |
So 200k no be money again for Nigeria.
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atheistandproud(m): 7:26pm On Apr 20 |
Helbebu: Lol no 1 Like |
saintmm(m): 7:58pm On Apr 20 |
atheistandproud:Haa, this is serious!!! |
EinsteinAyo(m): 9:45pm On Apr 20 |
Well, TECNO has been improving
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atheistandproud(m): 10:21pm On Apr 20 |
EinsteinAyo: They've had no choice if not they would have continued using Helio P22 and Helio P35. These days they're using Helio G80 - G92 and Helio G96-G100. The kicker is: Helio G70, G80, G81, G85, G88, G91 and G92 are all the same. The Helio G96, G99 and G100 are all the same. Na just naming ceremony MediaTek do for them 2 Likes |
Inspirer1: 11:09pm On Apr 20 |
So which are the better options ![]() So people can make informed decisions. |
faceland: 11:18pm On Apr 20 |
You could have summarised this The last time I bought phone, I couldn't find any for less than ₦100k. I was so afraid to touch any brand I couldn't recognise, I just asked for my iTel. All the phones are all sealed, you literally have to make your choice from reading the packaging. I was seeing names I don't know, I said please take these away from me and get me what I can identify at least. |
Nigerianyouth1: 6:41am On Apr 21 |
[quote author=atheistandproud post=135061717]Inquisitive Universe: Hello and a happy Sunday to you. I want to discuss the proliferation of the MediaTek Helio G100 and how it has essentially become the staple of the lower mid-range market in many developing (third world) countries. The MediaTek Helio G100 is a rebadged MediaTek Helio G99 which is in turn a renamed Helio G96 which is a rearranged Helio G95 and finally a repackaged Helio G90T. This family of SoCs is a group of lower mid-range 4G LTE processors that were very popular between 2019 and 2022. However with the rise of performance levels and Android requirements, other SoCs like the Dimensity series and Qualcomm's 6 and 7 Gen mid-range series have taken the limelight. Whilst most parts of the world have moved on to cheap 5G processors with equivalent or far better performance like the Dimensity 6020, 6080, 7020, 7300, Unisoc T820, Snapdragon 4 Gen and 6 Gen SoCs, many parts of the developing world are still being laden with these old processors. I recently did a video talking about the best phones that one could pick up between 300-400k Naira (<$260 USD) and the entirely list was dominated with phones using Helio G100 and G99. This takes me back to the good old dark days of 2016/2017 when one SoC strode the developing landscape like a Colossus. Meet the MediaTek MT6580. A lot of phones produced for the Mid-range market then used this very processor. Even successors and grand children of phone lines up to 3 generations used the MediaTek 6580. It was only the introduction of 64-bit only apps that ended that trend. After being found out, the OEMs decided to switch over to Helio P22 as their new mascot from 2019 till some time around 2021/22. In that time period, a lot of other OEMs in different parts of the world were using more modern SoCs which brought performance on a budget and all that. But these companies stubbornly persisted with using the MT6580 and the Helio P22. It now appears that the trend is back with the MediaTek Helio G100. They've been using this same SoC for 5 years now. All they've been doing is increasing clock speed here and camera resolution there. These only offer small boosts in performance and functionality but in the end, it's the same processor. I know a lot of people, and I've seen many, will argue strongly that the processor is only one part of the phone and that there's more to a phone than performance. They'll point at the fact that lower mid-range 4G phones have better 1080p OLED displays and high resolution cameras that can capture very good photos and videos. I was at Pointek yesterday to look over the Camon 40 Pro for a review and it's display was incredibly sharp. They'll argue about fast charge, big batteries and a lot of things that many lower mid-range 5G phones do not have. I've met the ones that will tell you that 5G is a gimmick and that it's fake. For someone who plays eFootball online on a PS5 with 5G network and actually wins. I always find this argument funny. So as I've argued in the past and will continue to do, the SoC of a phone doesn't just indicate performance but it also manages everything on the phone from software to cameras and so much more. Imagine using a Redmi Note 11 Pro from 2022, only to go back into the market in 2025 to meet newer phones with the same processor? Lower mid-range 5G are being made to look weak by design. This is to prevent people from picking them up. The 720p displays, weak cameras, 18W fast charge and all that are meant to discourage people. Meanwhile they're packing high end OLED displays, 45W fast charge, Sony Lyta cameras or high end Omnivision cameras with aluminum frames on 4G phones. Think slowly about the message that this es to average Joe on the street. Just think about it. There are better and quite frankly affordable SoCs that will improve the average smartphone experience for the end but these companies for some reason are trying to hold on to the 4G era. So they can milk it for all it's worth. So for now, everyone looking for a good phone is stuck with a Helio G99 or G100 phone for the foreseeable future. If you want to escape the 4G utopia, you'll have to cough up 500k+, or do your research and make smarter choices. I can call Poco X7 off the top of my head. This is from a video I'm supposed to make but I've decided to share it. Please let me know what you think. Good evening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxcupaDBm7Y?si=cRfcCRLWX2jeRJub |
Everyday247: 8:16am On Apr 21 |
@atheistandproud Which part of Nigeria did you see 5g aside Lagos, Abuja and PH? |
Everyday247: 9:58am On Apr 21 |
Omo! Who been quote me?
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Eaglepixel: 11:04am On Apr 21 |
What about pixel 8a and 9a processor. It's different |
omotayo9177: 2:28pm On Apr 22 |
Hello everyone. Kindly suggest a good phone to buy. Budget is between 200k - 250k |
micxwell(m): 12:34am On May 01 |
omotayo9177:Redmi Note 14; Samsung A16.... 1 Like |