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I was born into a Christian family but I stopped church 3yrs ago and has only been to church less than 10times in the past 3yrs. Most of my reasons has to do with my financial muscle to keep up with church demands.

1. Preaching pattern: when growing up, the preaching was all about salvation and morals. But now the preaching became all about money, sowing seed and giving to pastors, nobody even talks about giving to poor people. As a young man who is struggling, I find it hard giving to pastors that are already swimming in wealth. I just deh murmur every tithing time and give with grudge.

2. Church donations: the most painful part was during my NYSC, the church will always look for a way to collect money every Sunday, imagine earning 33k and one resident pastors is tasking to provide money for fuel for church generator every Sunday, if they are having any outreach, will be pay meanwhile the G.O is travelling on private jets while I am fuelling church generator, that was not all, we were again asked to sow a seed on the G.Os life cos it was his birthday, they termed it "offer 7". As a corp member, the church became a financial burden on me and I left the church.

3a. Self centeredness in church depts and groups: I ed when I was still at my parents house, my dad didn't go to church for 2weeks and the group sent him a message that they haven't seen him and he is owing the donations for 2weeks, I was so pissed off cos they didn't care to know why he didn't come to church, they didn't even talk about the refreshment (coke and meatpie) he missed, how they will send it to him, they were after their money, I wasn't happy he didn't go cos normally na me deh drink the coke, but nobody talks about my coke.

3b. Consequences for not donating: if one dies, the church brings up his debt and then if he is owing debt, the group he belongs to will not partake in his funeral if his family didn't pay up the debt. Omo, this made me finally cut ties with church as I couldn't see the preaching of selfless love that Jesus preached all his days on earth

4. My success came after I stopped church: I stopped going to church after 31st January 2022, after the church decide to stay away from a funeral of a church member cos his family refused to pay his debt, that year marked tremendous success for me and I began to wonder why should I go to church that only preach about success when I got my breakthrough after cutting ties with church.
I got my first job that year and got another second job that same year. I was doing two jobs that doesn't stress me, meanwhile I have been praying and buying mantle for financial breakthrough.

I think churches should be flexible on financial demands

Have the imperfections of your family made you to disown your family? Have fake doctors made you to reject hospitals when you are sick? Have fake lawyers made to reject the court of law when you need to take your case to the court? The answer to these questions is no. But when it comes to worshipping God, you use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from God. Are you supposed to worship God because of your fellow humans or are you supposed to worship God because of whom God is to you?

Nobody spends up to an hour in a sports viewing centre without being displeased by one or two people there. But many of you remain tolerant and continue to visit those centres because you value sports. It is only in the things of God that you become intolerant. Keep deceiving yourselves. You use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from church simply because you do not value God.

You lost interest in Church because you do not understand that God wants us to always come together to worship him.

Hebrew 10:25 says,
"Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching."

Church is about worshiping God and for salvation of souls, not about material wealth. If you think the particular Church you worship with has ungodly principles, you can choose another Church.

When you dislike your job, you go for another one instead of being idle. But when it comes to worshiping God, you choose idleness because you don't understand the essence of worshiping God.

Dangote is the richest man here and doesn't go to church!

Having wealth ain't tied to you being religious!

Even atheists may be extremely rich!

There are poor people in religion and outside it.

May Allah guide you to the right path!

Nobody misses you.
Na yourself you dey do.
Continue.

richmond500:
I was born into a Christian family but I stopped church 3yrs ago and has only been to church less than 10times in the past 3yrs. Most of my reasons has to do with my financial muscle to keep up with church demands.

1. Preaching pattern: when growing up, the preaching was all about salvation and morals. But now the preaching became all about money, sowing seed and giving to pastors, nobody even talks about giving to poor people. As a young man who is struggling, I find it hard giving to pastors that are already swimming in wealth.

2. Church donations: the most painful part was during my NYSC, the church will always look for a way to collect money every Sunday, imagine earning 33k and one resident pastors is tasking to provide money for fuel for church generator every Sunday, if they are having any outreach, will be pay meanwhile the G.O is travelling on private jets while I am fuelling church generator, that was not all, we were again asked to sow a seed on the G.Os life cos it was his birthday, they termed it "offer 7". As a corp member, the church became a financial burden on me and I left the church.

3a. Self centeredness in church depts and groups: I ed when I was still at my parents house, my dad didn't go to church for 2weeks and the group sent him a message that they haven't seen him and he is owing the donations for 2weeks, I was so pissed off cos they didn't care to know why he didn't come to church, they didn't even talk about the refreshment he missed how they will send it to him, they were after their money.

3b. Consequences for not donating: if one dies, the church brings up his debt and then if he is owing debt, the group he belongs to will not partake in his funeral if his family didn't pay up the debt. Omo, this made me finally cut ties with church as I couldn't see the preaching of selfless love that Jesus preached all his days on earth

4. My success came after I stopped church: I stopped going to church after 31st January 2022, after the church decide to stay away from a funeral of a church member cos his family refused to pay his debt, that year marked tremendous success for me and I began to wonder why should I go to church that only preach about success when I got my breakthrough after cutting ties with church.
I got my first job that year and got another second job that same year. I was doing two jobs that doesn't stress me, meanwhile I have been praying and buying mantle for financial breakthrough.

I think churches should be flexible on financial demands

AbuTwins:
;DDangote is the richest man here and doesn't go to church!

Having wealth ain't tied to you being religious!

Even atheists may be extremely rich!

There are poor people in religion and outside it.

May Allah guide you to the right path!

Church is not about wealth.

immortalcrown:
You lost interest in Church because you do not understand that God wants us to always come together to worship him.

Hebrew 10:25 says,
"Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching."

Church is about worshiping God and for salvation of souls, not about material wealth. If you think the particular Church you worship with has ungodly principles, you can choose another Church.

When you dislike your job, you go for another one instead of being idle. But when it comes to worshiping God, you choose idleness because you don't understand the essence of worshiping God.

it's not just one church, almost every church right now will ask ur family to pay off ur debt when u die.
There is a 97.82% chance even ur church is doing it.
The fact that u don't know about it doesn't mean it is not happening

immortalcrown:
Church is not about wealth.

Prosperity preachers would disagree!

They'll start with "Jesus wasn't a poor man...."!

richmond500:
it's not just one church, almost every church right now will ask ur family to pay off ur debt when u die.
There is a 97.82% chance even ur church is doing it.
The fact that u don't know about it doesn't mean it is not happening

Every job has hazards, yet you never choose idleness. But when it comes to worshipping God, you choose idleness because of the defects in Churches.

AbuTwins:
Prosperity preachers would disagree!

They'll start with "Jesus wasn't a poor man...."!

Have the imperfections of your family made you to disown your family? Have fake doctors made you to reject hospitals when you are sick? Have fake lawyers made to reject the court of law when you need to take your case to the court? The answer to these questions is no. But when it comes to worshipping God, you use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from God. Are you supposed to worship God because of your fellow humans or are you supposed to worship God because of whom God is to you?

immortalcrown:
Every job has hazards, yet you never choose idleness. But when it comes to worshipping God, you choose idleness because of the defects in Churches.

Jobs has different hazards and u can change jobs.
All churches have the same hazards, financial demands and I can't choose, so I just had to stay away from all of them.

While it's true that many churches have missed the point, My brother you are responsible for your own worship, Worship God in truth and Spirit,

AbuTwins:


Dangote is the richest man here and doesn't go to church!

Having wealth ain't tied to you being religious!

Even atheists may be extremely rich!

There are poor people in religion and outside it.

May Allah guide you to the right path!

The aim of worshiping God is not for one to be rich or wealthy.

immortalcrown:
Have the imperfections of your family made you to disown your family? Have fake doctors made you to reject hospitals when you are sick? Have fake lawyers made to reject the court of law when you need to take your case to the court? The answer to these questions is no. But when it comes to worshipping God, you use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from God. Are you supposed to worship God because of your fellow humans or are you supposed to worship God because of whom God is to you?

going to church and worshipping God are two different things.

When the last days comes, most of these ur daddy G.O will be at the bad end of the judgment, it was never about church.
And if church will make u question ur faith in God, then cut it off.

richmond500:
Jobs has different hazards and u can change jobs.
All churches have the same hazards, financial demands and I can't choose, so I just had to stay away from all of them.

If all Churches have the same hazards, all humans are the same. And this means that you are as bad as the deadly criminals in prisons.

If you claim that all humans are not the same, then all churches are not the same. All churches can be the same only when all humans are the same. And if you it that all human are the same, it means you it that you are not better than the deadly criminals in prison.

Ok

Celestialsword:
The aim of worshiping God is not for one to be rich or wealthy.

well, that is what Churches preach ryt now.
Recently a popular pastor said Jesus hate poor people.
This are false teachings

richmond500:
going to church and worshipping God are two different things.

When the last days comes, most of these ur daddy G.O will be at the bad end of the judgment, it was never about church.
And if church will make u question ur faith in God, then cut it off.

If not for worshipping God and for salvation of souls, why should one go to Church?

TemplarLandry:
Nobody misses you.
Na yourself you dey do.
Continue.

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immortalcrown:
If all Churches have the same hazards, all humans are the same. And this means that you are as bad as the deadly criminals in prisons.

If you claim that all humans are not the same, then all churches are not the same. All churches can be the same only when all humans are the same. And if you it that all human are the same, it means you it that you are not better than the deadly criminals in prison.

All churches have one thing in common, and that is financial demands and I can't deal with it.

All humans may have one thing in common which I can deal with, and it's not criminality just like u paint it.
U can't name a church that doesn't ask for money but I can name a human that is not criminal minded

Perhaps you would appreciate the truth!

Christianity went into spiritual exile after the death of Jesus' last surviving apostle called John.
From that time the AntiChrist (Satan's agent) overshadowed and persecuted the real adherents of Christianity {Matthew 13:25} so the persecution and intimidation led to compromise that's what continued through the dark ages until the twentieth century when Jesus was enthroned in heaven as king of God's Kingdom but by the time he visited planet earth Christianity has vanished {Luke 18:8} he began searching for any religious group that will welcome discipline and corrections then he found a group called the international Bible students association Jesus began correcting them as they were also into some pagan traditions they got from the AntiChrist, all the other religions started mocking them for making amendment upon amendment until they were ready for endtime harvesting then Jesus handed them to his father who began calling them by a new group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Please read the below comments and compare to what you have in the church:

APOPTOSIS:

Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and s.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

How far?

Well people the world over hate this group because it's like they are strange with everything they preach and teach but don't let that bother you Jesus said his real disciples will be hated for the truth they uphold! Matthew 10:24-25


May you have peace!

Celestialsword:
Your having multiple jobs or financial breakthrough is not because you stopped going to church.

God gave you those jobs at the right and appropriate time due to your prayers.

If God gave it to me after I left church, that simply means God was waiting for me to make the right choice before giving me the job

immortalcrown:
If not for worshipping God and for salvation of souls, why should one go to Church?

exactly, when the salvation is no more preached, why should I go to church?

richmond500:
exactly, when the salvation is no more preached, why should I go to church?

You are obviously inconsistent because you are a liar. That is why you start one thing and don't finish it before jumping to another thing. You claim that going to church is different from worshipping God. I asked you any reason once you go to church if not for worshipping God and for salvation of souls. You dodged the question and jumped to saying that salvation is no longer preached in churches.

Can you swear with your entire generation that no church preaches salvation?

richmond500:
If God gave it to me after I left church, that simply means God was waiting for me to make the right choice before giving me the job

Right choice of running away from worshipping him?

Celestialsword:
Right choice of running away from worshipping him?

No, I still adore him, I only said I stopped going to church

richmond500:
All churches have one thing in common, and that is financial demands and I can't deal with it.

All humans may have one thing in common which I can deal with, and it's not criminality just like u paint it.
U can't name a church that doesn't ask for money but I can name a human that is not criminal minded

In this modern time,the church needs money to carry out the work of God.

Where do you think they will get the money from, heaven?

It's from the contributions from

Someone Who has the phobia of giving out money, will never want to be in a place where people give out money to a ministry.

It's God that gave you the money you have

Celestialsword:
In this modern time,the church needs money to carry out the work of God.

Where do you think they will get the money from, heaven?

It's from the contributions from

Someone Who has the phobia of giving out money, will never want to be in a place where people give out money to a ministry.

It's God that gave you the money you have

the general overseer should do it.
U can't be flying private jets and expect me to buy fuel for ur church.
If u know u can't fund all ur branches, just have two or three branches and stop billing people

richmond500:
All churches have one thing in common, and that is financial demands and I can't deal with it.

All humans may have one thing in common which I can deal with, and it's not criminality just like u paint it.
U can't name a church that doesn't ask for money but I can name a human that is not criminal minded

Oh o.k..

You prefer they don't ask you for money right?

That means you wouldn't mind if you come to church and speakers,mics,fans are not working.

You wouldn't mind if the church landlord interrupts service to demand church rent.

You wouldn't mind seeing your pastors trekking to church.

Because how else do you want them to get funds to run.

LordBiden:

Oh o.k..

You prefer they don't ask you for money right?

That means you wouldn't mind if you come to church and speakers,mics,fans are not working.

You wouldn't mind if the church landlord interrupts service to demand church rent.

You wouldn't mind seeing your pastors trekking to church.

Because how else do you want them to get funds to run.

a man can't be a multi millionaire with private jets cruising the world and me that is making less than 300k will be spending money for church rent.

immortalcrown:
Have the imperfections of your family made you to disown your family? Have fake doctors made you to reject hospitals when you are sick? Have fake lawyers made to reject the court of law when you need to take your case to the court? The answer to these questions is no. But when it comes to worshipping God, you use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from God. Are you supposed to worship God because of your fellow humans or are you supposed to worship God because of whom God is to you?

Nobody spends up to an hour in a sports viewing centre without being displeased by one or two people there. But many of you remain tolerant and continue to visit those centres because you value sports. It is only in the things of God that you become intolerant. Keep deceiving yourselves. You use imperfect humans as an excuse to stay away from church simply because you do not value God.

You lost interest in Church because you do not understand that God wants us to always come together to worship him.

Hebrew 10:25 says,
"Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching."

Church is about worshiping God and for salvation of souls, not about material wealth. If you think the particular Church you worship with has ungodly principles, you can choose another Church.

When you dislike your job, you go for another one instead of being idle. But when it comes to worshiping God, you choose idleness because you don't understand the essence of worshiping God.

Truly. Only when it comes to God. People use the fakes to discredit God and the church. They don't do that to any other thing. I understand the Op's frustration though

richmond500:


4. My success came after I stopped church: I stopped going to church after 31st January 2022, after the church decide to stay away from a funeral of a church member cos his family refused to pay his debt, that year marked tremendous success for me and I began to wonder why should I go to church that only preach about success when I got my breakthrough after cutting ties with church.
I got my first job that year and got another second job that same year. I was doing two jobs that doesn't stress me, meanwhile I have been praying and buying mantle for financial breakthrough.

Fallacy of false cause.

You got a breakthrough cos of your focus, determination, time & chance NOT cos you stopped attending church.


There are some who never skipped church for once, yet flourishing...

There are some who never stepped foot in church, but keep wallowing in abject poverty & might eventually die in their misery.


These things are not mutually exclusive, bruv.

Karlifate:


Fallacy of false cause.

You got a breakthrough cos of your focus, determination, time & chance NOT cos you stopped attending church.


There are some who never skipped church for once, yet flourishing...

There are some who never stepped foot in church, but keep wallowing in abject poverty & might eventually die in their misery.


These things are not mutually exclusive, bruv.

that is why the preaching of prosperity just because u pay tithe and sow seed shouldn't even be a topic