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Or more like loosely translated, every thing he said was based on science not his opinion. Therefore attacking that was an attack on science.

You know like the evidence that;
1)vaccines help reduce the spread of diseases
2) that hygiene practices like hand washing prevents the spread of diseases
3) that social distancing helps slow the spread of diseases.

These are simple concepts proven by science. Not up for debate or attack. Unless you’re Maga and your Incompetent president wants to make distract you from his incompetence by politicizing time tested disease prevention measures.

basilico:


Faucci funded the creation of covid-19.
That's all you need to know.
The committee grilled witnesses and went through documents.
Everyone round the world was affected and Dr Death
It’s very dangerous,” Fauci told MSNBC. “A lot of what you’re seeing as attacks on me quite frankly are attacks on science, because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science.”

Loosely translated Dr Faucci is the science..
You are questioning evidence.
Faucci was pardoned gir what reason.
A rumour about Trump from a lunatic you believe . House investigation committee you doubt.

cococandy:


They posted threatening messages on the Uscis website.
I just logged in to check on an application I’m working on for someone.

Why post those subtly threatening messages on a website that people are supposed to use for legal immigration? If what you’re against is illegal immigration?

Trump should not touch USCIS oh.

These El Salvadorian cases have historical parallels and a historical connection to Africa in the Armistad.
Same arguments, different centuries.

IjeBos:
These El Salvadorian cases have historical parallels and a historical connection to Africa in the Armistad.
Same arguments, different centuries.

He’s not original that’s for sure. Always borrowing from dictators’ playbooks

Bloomberg is projecting that the U.S. would lose $90 billion (0.3% of GDP), this year, in lost revenue to reduced international tourism! 🙆🏽‍♂️

Already, there was a 10% reduction in non-US citizen visits to the U.S. in March, compared to March last year.

Now, here’s the real kicker: Canadian airline summer bookings to the U.S., through September, are down an astonishing 70%, compared to last year 🤯🤯

PDPGuy:
Bloomberg is projecting that the U.S. would lose $90 billion (0.3% of GDP), this year, in lost revenue to reduced international tourism! 🙆🏽‍♂️

Already, there was a 10% reduction in non-US citizen visits to the U.S. in March, compared to March last year.

Now, here’s the real kicker: Canadian airline summer bookings to the U.S., through September, are down an astonishing 70%, compared to last year 🤯🤯

The US is also going to lose out on academic tourism too. People already in the US will finish their courses, but few people are going to opt for academic courses when the govt can revoke your visa at will.

Trump and magats of course think only short term and they don't understand that international students also bring in money and are a valuable human resource for American industry.

basilico:


Faucci funded the creation of covid-19.
That's all you need to know.
The committee grilled witnesses and went through documents.
Everyone round the world was affected and Dr Death
It’s very dangerous,” Fauci told MSNBC. “A lot of what you’re seeing as attacks on me quite frankly are attacks on science, because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science.”

You are a clown.

State the funding amount given to Wuhan and the period the funding covered.

Ibime:


You are a clown.

State the funding amount given to Wuhan and the period the funding covered.

Dr fauci is now a bond villain with infinite resources. This is what the internet has done. It has completely fried peoples brains.

cococandy:


Explain. Because I don’t want to misunderstand you.

Your opinion is worthy of being published in a peer reviewed The one I replied to.

basilico:


Your opinion is worthy of being published in a peer reviewed The one I replied to.

You do realize that was a sarcastic comment?

Besides I can’t have opinions on medical issues. I can only refer to well conducted research and proven facts.


If you really read that sarcastic comment and thought it was credible because I’m a healthcare professional, then I’m not surprised that MAGA leaders are able to sell you pipe dreams.

Ibime:


You are a clown.

State the funding amount given to Wuhan and the period the funding covered.

Grok3

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What was the amount given to Ecohealth Alliance towards the him if function research in Wuhan

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The EcoHealth Alliance received a grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) totaling approximately $3.7 million from 2014 to 2019 for studying bat coronaviruses, with about $600,000 of that amount subawarded to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

There is debate over whether this funding ed "gain-of-function" research. EcoHealth Alliance and NIH officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have denied that the funded work met the specific definition of gain-of-function research, which involves modifying viruses to enhance their transmissibility or virulence in humans. They argue the research focused on understanding naturally occurring bat coronaviruses and their potential to infect humans, not on enhancing pathogens.

However, critics, including some scientists and congressional , argue that certain experiments, such as creating chimeric viruses that showed increased growth in humanized mice, fit the definition of gain-of-function research. Documents indicate that some experiments resulted in viruses with enhanced growth, which EcoHealth failed to report promptly as required by NIH grant .

The exact amount directly tied to alleged gain-of-function experiments is not explicitly separated in available records, as the $600,000 to WIV covered various studies, not all of which were classified as gain-of-function. Thus, while the total subaward to WIV was $600,000, it’s unclear how much was specifically for experiments critics label as gain-of-function.

What was the amount given by Faucci to South Carolina for gain of function before the programs was discontinued

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There is no specific evidence in the provided references or broader records that directly states Dr. Anthony Fauci or the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) allocated funds explicitly to South Carolina for gain-of-function research before the U.S. government paused such research from October 2014 to December 2017.
However, the references do mention gain-of-function research in the context of other locations, notably the Wuhan Institute of Virology via EcoHealth Alliance, and some work involving Dr. Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina (UNC), which is not in South Carolina. For clarity, here’s what’s known:
EcoHealth Alliance and Wuhan: The NIH, through NIAID, awarded EcoHealth Alliance a $3.7 million grant from 2014 to 2019, with approximately $600,000 subawarded to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for bat coronavirus research. Some of this work has been debated as gain-of-function, though Fauci and NIH have denied it met the specific regulatory definition.

Ralph Baric at UNC: Research by Dr. Baric at UNC, funded by NIH, included a 2015 study with the Wuhan Institute that created a chimeric virus. This work was described by some as gain-of-function, but Fauci testified it was conducted in North Carolina, not China, and did not meet the gain-of-function definition under NIH guidelines.

Gain-of-Function Pause: The U.S. paused funding for gain-of-function research on influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses from October 2014 to December 2017 due to biosafety concerns. During this period, some grants, like EcoHealth’s, were reviewed and allowed to continue if deemed outside the pause’s scope.

South Carolina Connection: None of the references explicitly link Fauci, NIAID, or NIH funding for gain-of-function research to South Carolina. The closest related mention is the UNC work in North Carolina, which could be a point of confusion due to geographic proximity. No specific dollar amounts or projects tied to South Carolina for gain-of-function research are documented in the provided sources.

If you meant a specific institution or researcher in South Carolina, or if you were referring to another state (e.g., North Carolina), please clarify, and I can refine the answer. Alternatively, I can search for any NIH grants to South Carolina institutions during that period, but without more details, no direct funding for gain-of-function research in South Carolina is confirmed.

I meant funding to Ralph Baric for creating a chimera virus

Dr. Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina (UNC) received funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), specifically through the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), for research involving coronaviruses, including a 2015 study that created a chimeric virus. This study, conducted in collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, has been cited in debates about gain-of-function research.
The specific grant tied to the 2015 study (published in Nature Medicine) was from NIH/NIAID, with a total award of approximately $3.7 million over several years for Baric’s broader research on coronaviruses, though exact figures for the chimeric virus experiment alone are not isolated in public records. The study involved creating a chimeric virus by combining a bat coronavirus backbone with a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV spike protein, showing it could infect human airway cells.
While critics label this as gain-of-function research due to the virus’s enhanced ability to infect human cells, Baric and NIH officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have stated it did not meet the formal definition of gain-of-function under NIH guidelines at the time, as it was not expected to increase virulence or transmissibility in humans beyond naturally occurring viruses. The research continued during the 2014–2017 gain-of-function funding pause after NIH review deemed it outside the pause’s scope.
No precise amount is publicly specified for the chimeric virus work alone, but the broader grant to Baric’s lab was in the range of $3.7 million from 2014 to 2019, with portions ing various coronavirus studies, including the 2015 collaboration. If you need further details on the grant breakdown, I can search for additional records or clarify specific aspects of the funding.

bemeruca:


Trump should not touch USCIS oh.

He should ask the judges first before doing anything

GloriousGbola:


The US is also going to lose out on academic tourism too. People already in the US will finish their courses, but few people are going to opt for academic courses when the govt can revoke your visa at will.

Trump and magats of course think only short term and they don't understand that international students also bring in money and are a valuable human resource for American industry.

.it was sarcastic. You are dismissing an exhaustive investigation based on facts You should read the report first before dismissing it
You also bring in if the Committe as if they don't have a legal team that goes through the evidence
Let Faucci and Co dismiss the contents , instead they lied to the committee. Because nothing happens to democrats when they lie
I can give you several examples
James Clapper, Hunter Biden, KlineSmith, . When republicans lie or refuse to appear they are jailed.. Bannon, Papadopoulos, etc

GloriousGbola:


The US is also going to lose out on academic tourism too. People already in the US will finish their courses, but few people are going to opt for academic courses when the govt can revoke your visa at will.

Trump and magats of course think only short term and they don't understand that international students also bring in money and are a valuable human resource for American industry.

At least they owned the libs. That’s more important.

They Forget that since we gave up our status as a manufacturing super power long long ago, some of the things holding us up on the world stage is our status as one of the intellectual capitals of the world.

Why would an international student seek American education now when they don’t know if their studies will be tailored to match what Trump wants rather than what’s true and proven?

PDPGuy:
Bloomberg is projecting that the U.S. would lose $90 billion (0.3% of GDP), this year, in lost revenue to reduced international tourism! 🙆🏽‍♂️

Already, there was a 10% reduction in non-US citizen visits to the U.S. in March, compared to March last year.

Now, here’s the real kicker: Canadian airline summer bookings to the U.S., through September, are down an astonishing 70%, compared to last year 🤯🤯

also this

https://www.newsweek.com/travel-warning-journalists-entering-us-2061475

The Committee to Protect Journalists (J) has advised journalists traveling to the United States to take special precautions, citing growing concerns over potential new travel restrictions and increased scrutiny at U.S. borders under President Donald Trump's istration.

It is particularly aimed at those covering politically sensitive stories and offered detailed legal, digital, and physical safety recommendations to help reporters navigate potential border searches, surveillance, and the risk of being detained or denied entry to the U.S.

Newsweek has reached out to the State Department and the J for comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhwx8z8mJc

can one play spot the difference?

dude did not even mention trump. but anyone can the dots

basilico:


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What was the amount given to Ecohealth Alliance towards the him if function research in Wuhan

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The EcoHealth Alliance received a grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) totaling approximately $3.7 million from 2014 to 2019 for studying bat coronaviruses, with about $600,000 of that amount subawarded to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

We are getting there.

So Ecohealth independently sub-awarded a $100k yearly grant to Wuhan and you expect the NIH boss who is dealing with budgets of tens of billions to know and approve such small sum in a different organisation. Why not take it one step up the ladder and blame the next person up, Trump who is dealing with budgets of trillions?

That's before we even come to whether the grant is specifically for gain of function. I hope you know the common cold is a Coronavirus as are all flu viruses and are routinely studied along with SARS, MERS and other Coronaviruses. How many lab assistants salary can you pay with $100k?

Una go well one day.

Ibime:


We are getting there.

So Ecohealth independently sub-awarded a $100k yearly grant to Wuhan and you expect the NIH boss who is dealing with hundreds of billions to know about it and approve it. Why not take it one step up the ladder and blame the next person up, Trump who is dealing with budgets of trillions?

That's before we even come to whether the grant is specifically for gain of function. How many lab assistants salary can you pay with $100k?

Una go well one day.

That just nonsense from your side. Your stupid argument hinges on a false dichotomy. either fauci approves every small grant, or he's entirely disconnected from the program.

You are trying too hard to defend nonsense instead of itting we made a mistake. You don't even want to believe lab leak you still think it's the wet market abi

bemeruca:


That just nonsense from your side. Your stupid argument hinges on a false dichotomy. either fauci approves every small grant, or he's entirely disconnected from the program.

Nigga shut the fvck up. You've never dealt with budgets before except the generator apportioned to you to give the local community which you stole. That's why you think you can claim Company gave you Range Rover as company car, you have no clue about budgeting.

Like I said when Tinubu was accused of budgeting N5bln for "Yacht", you can read below how a budgeting process works, talkless of expecting a nigga in control of tens of billions to know all the details about $100k in a separate organisation. It's the usual scapegoating and witch-hunting from MAGAts.

Ibime:


Budgeting is a complex and multilayered process

You have zero based budgets and incremental budgets

Almost all companies use incremental budgeting as you can spend unjustifiable amount of time on a zero based budget

All an incremental budget needs to see is an uplift on prior year in line with inflation. If there was padding in prior year, it will flow through into current year quite easily if all levels of the budgeting process have not done their diligence. That's why Osinbajo was making noise about zero based budget when he first came in because he wanted to clear out the recurring padding from previous years.

I oversee budgets for my organisation. I compile 10 entities into Group position. It takes me only 1 month to complete our entities with a combined revenue of circa £250m annual. I cannot and do not get into line detail except for the material cost lines, and for every other cost line, as long as the YoY growth is in line with inflation, I do not drill further, my variance analysis will simply say "in line with I uplift" or "in line with sales volume uplift" .

This year we have a new entity we are starting from scratch with revenues of only £29m. It took me 6 months on the matter with countless sleepless nights because every line has to be built from costs, quotes, conversations or modelling rather than simple YoY extrapolation. It's a zero based budget.

Until you have sat in the seat of a budget compiler, you would not imagine how little of the detail a budget compiler will be able to articulate. In a budget of nearly N30 trillion, I assure you the Minister will not look into a N5bln expense which when grouped with other expenses into an expense object code may equal N200 bln. Minister may only see a N200 bln line for "Maritime expenses" which includes that N5bln yacht and may not drill further. It is up to every level of the budget process to exercise due diligence before it gets to the top dog. The top dog may only look at Maritime expenses 2022 and see N190bln and Maritime expenses 2023 and see N200bln and satisfy himself that it is inflationary uplift.

I saw a post on FP today with someone in Government saying every year Press like to pick out and sensationalize line items in budget and I agreed with him. I am 99% certain Tinubu did not have details on that Yatch and 80% certain the Minister did not either. It's the lower rungs in the budget process that would know about that. Infact most of the fraud occurs in the line items the press do not pick out, especially Payroll and Capital lines. The N2bln renovation press like to shout about here and there is just a distraction from the main koko where money is stolen. It's usually wife or cousin of President stealing miserly N1bln from that N2bln whereas the main thieves have written hundreds of billions into lines you can't easily call out and has been recurring for years.

Ibime:


You've never dealt with budgets before except the generator apportioned to you to give the local community which you stole. That's why you think you can claim Company gave you Range Rover as company car, you have no clue about budgeting.

Like I said when Tinubu was accused of budgeting N5bln for "Yacht", you can read below how a budgeting process works, talkless of expecting a nigga in control of tens of billions to know all the details about $100k in a separate organisation. It's the usual scapegoating and witch-hunting from MAGAts.

see also materiality

https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/what-is-materiality

GloriousGbola:




see also materiality

https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/what-is-materiality

Fauci actually said it in senate hearing with Rand Paul, something to the effect of "you asking me about $100k, are you serious".

Anybody who knows anything about Corporate world and materiality knows the levels to which different cadres of an organisation have detail. The general office PA in Facebook will know their stationery order volumes for Facebook HQ, the office manager likely will not, talkless of Supply Chain Manager, then Director, then VP, then Zuckerberg. By the time you get to Zuckerberg, you are talking to the birds. It is when kasala burst and someone discovers that they spent $100k more on stationery than they should have that Zuck will now ask his VP to run it down the chain all the way back to the office PA to find out how come an extra $100k was spent. Hence I said they might as well run that $100k up the next rung of the ladder to Trump following that logic.

Ibime I got banned by anti spam bot for quoting your post

Ibime:


We are getting there.

So Ecohealth independently sub-awarded a $100k yearly grant to Wuhan and you expect the NIH boss who is dealing with budgets of tens of billions to know and approve such small sum in a different organisation. Why not take it one step up the ladder and blame the next person up, Trump who is dealing with budgets of trillions?

That's before we even come to whether the grant is specifically for gain of function. I hope you know the common cold is a Coronavirus as are all flu viruses and are routinely studied along with SARS, MERS and other Coronaviruses. How many lab assistants salary can you pay with $100k?

Una go well one day.

List in point form what you dispute about the report . I ouvt you have read it

FOR WOMEN SCOTLAND, you did well.
It took these women (3) of them under this umbrella and those behind them to fight for the right of biological females. That is feminism we are proud of and want to be associated with where our daughters are protected from wolves have started swallowing them up already without care.

They made biological females feel so bad and frustrated because they can only come alive when they subdue their enemy which is woman.

They want to reduce women to 12 century slaves, courtesan, mistresses and what have you agsin who only live for the sole pleasure of men. Women right fought for over the centuries in the mud.

Ibime:


We are getting there.

So Ecohealth independently sub-awarded a $100k yearly grant to Wuhan and you expect the NIH boss who is dealing with budgets of tens of billions to know and approve such small sum in a different organisation. Why not take it one step up the ladder and blame the next person up, Trump who is dealing with budgets of trillions?

That's before we even come to whether the grant is specifically for gain of function. I hope you know the common cold is a Coronavirus as are all flu viruses and are routinely studied along with SARS, MERS and other Coronaviruses. How many lab assistants salary can you pay with $100k?

Una go well one day.

Basilico, this guy has buried his head up his own ass I am still wondering how he managed to type this nonsense.

Facts:
It was funded by the NIH through EcoHealth Alliance. A sub-award (a smaller portion of the grant, ~$100k annually) went to WIV, a leading virology lab in China, to conduct parts of the research, likely due to its expertise in bat coronaviruses and access to local bat populations.

The project aimed to study how coronaviruses, particularly those found in bats, naturally evolve in their animal hosts (reservoirs) and assess their potential to jump to humans, causing disease.

Ibime saying they don't know is a big lie.
NIH initiated the research through Ecohealth. That's the bottom line.
Its on their own website
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus-bat-research

GloriousGbola:


also this

https://www.newsweek.com/travel-warning-journalists-entering-us-2061475

My guy, we are living in the twilight zone

basilico:

Who is laughing now.

I am laughing at you for believing dump.

bemeruca:


Basilico, this guy has buried his head up his own ass I am still wondering how he managed to type this nonsense.

Facts:
It was funded by the NIH through EcoHealth Alliance. A sub-award (a smaller portion of the grant, ~$100k annually) went to WIV, a leading virology lab in China, to conduct parts of the research, likely due to its expertise in bat coronaviruses and access to local bat populations.

The project aimed to study how coronaviruses, particularly those found in bats, naturally evolve in their animal hosts (reservoirs) and assess their potential to jump to humans, causing disease.

Ibime saying they don't know is a big lie.
NIH initiated the research through Ecohealth. That's the bottom line.
Its on their own website
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus-bat-research

I've been banned Twice today by the bot when replying to Ibime and cococandy.
I'll just copy paste my reply to her and see whether I get a few more hours ban.
Or maybe the bot is banning me because of typos!!