NewStats: 3,259,483 , 8,170,251 topics. Date: Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 08:36 AM 563i5x

geedot:
It's not my most used, but the only thing I use to determine if I'm longing a falling market or shorting a rising market. Nothing more, nothing less. It takes practice to reach this level but if you watch chart long enough accompanied by volume, you will start finding a way to work out a trading system for yourself.

Most alts have very low trading volume, so it's very easy for one fat finger to alter the flow. This causes inconsistency in the results. Reason why it's recommended to trade only those pairs with huge total trading volume like Bitcoin, Eth, Solana, Xrp too.

You don't need many pairs, I only trade gold and indices, few times Bitcoin. The lower timeframe would give you few trading opportunities daily and that should be enough. So Bitcoin and Eth should cut it for you.

About where to read, I've shared pdfs here before and a thread to read about it from in my previous posts this year. You can go through my previous post in search of them. It takes time, but it will be worth it.

See the GbpNzd chart, it's dropping already.

Thank you for the heads-up 💯

iLegendd:


I watched Jay's playlist of 9 videos yesterday. Nothing new, but if you're new to volume, it's okay. He's just an overexcited black American who probably stumbled on volume and trying his best to teach it.

Watch the playlist and get an idea of what he's saying. He's all over the place and kinda annoying to listen to, but you'll get the idea of what he's trying to say.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHs5Mo8IgaUimfgupQCYW33QVnV57xZAl&si=cmuXVzMR4OpJ2oAk

Thank you, bro, I appreciate it.🙌💯

dealslip:

This is so accurate. How do you achieve this? Is there a platform where you teach how to predict signals or share trade signal? I will like to such platforms or start a mentorship program with you

thank you dealslip. This is my 12yrs in crypto and trading. Godwilling, the learning process brought us consistent profit and success. No platform so far for learners.

Cheers

Sl: 0.5399

Tp: 0.66, 0.8

geedot:
If I trade currency pairs, this is where I would enter some positions, and keep some for when the top is broken to enter the rest in anticipation of the imminent fall in price.
Like I said earlier, sorry I'm posting this on a crypto thread, just for learning purpose.

If I was in this trade, I'd delete the pending orders to enter more shorts after this move downwards and shift the SL on this to BE due to bank holidays today. Low volume environment has been established, and we might just range for the rest of the day, adding to the fact that today is the last trading day of the week.

I like as everyone is sharing their ideas

Usefulness of a forum

You can make decisions and take what works for you

For test running a method, always use demo s to pratice it

geedot:
If I was in this trade, I'd delete the pending orders to enter more shorts after this move downwards and shift the SL on this to BE due to bank holidays today. Low volume environment has been established, and we might just range for the rest of the day, adding to the fact that today is the last trading day of the week.

Aren't we ranging as said?

CharlesOsiTrade:
thank you dealslip. This is my 12yrs in crypto and trading. Godwilling, the learning process brought us consistent profit and success. No platform so far for learners.

Cheers

12yrs in crypto and you are still trading? Which platform did you start with when there were limited sites to trade.
12yrs you still dey drop sp, tp. Nothing person no go read here.

He might just starting to be profitable.

Fastt:


12yrs in crypto and you are still trading? Which platform did you start with when there were limited sites to trade.
12yrs you still dey drop sp, tp. Nothing person no go read here.

😂

SINisSIN:
He might just starting to be profitable.

I am expecting a fake bounce in the market soon.

Soon you’ll start seeing coins doing *100%, *85%
*200%

It’s called a bear trap babies…


Let’s get ready for the bear market.


The second cleaning will be brutal!

This is not the best time to buy according to my market direction method.
69 looks different from each persons view one sees 6 from his view, and another sees 9 from his view .

They are both correct, the market will do what you want, not when you want it to, but when it wants to do it. And there is nothing you can do about it.


Stop loss helps you cut your losses

Futures traders should be very careful about leveraging!, always know that leveraging puts pressure on your .

But the way to know best how much you want to put on a trade in your leveraging futures trading , I have discovered a pattern, which someone also talked about sometime ago, which I found useful and helpful too .


There are some smart lads on here, and there are some that try by all means to sound intelligent.


Those who trade futures trading, the best way to avoid liquidation mail

A very simple method I use which I find very exciting
There is a section in your futures trading where you have a futures calculator .


Before you use this method
You have to make sure the following are already noted
1. Your stop loss
2. Your entry point.

Once you have established your entry point, and your stop loss.
Your stop loss is the amount that you are willing to loose, let’s say we are willing to loose $100 on that trade, and your entry point

Now, that you have imputed your stop loss and entry point, what do you do next?

Step 2:

You go to your futures calculator and go to the liquidation part, click on it.

Now, you will put the entry price you want to enter , the stop loss tweak the stop loss to be 100%
Place the trade on whatever leverage you want to use.


Step 3:

When you are choosing the type of margin choose cross margin instead of isolated, and then you leave $100 open for that trade.

When you use cross margin it means that the money in that will keep replenishing when the trade reaches it liquidation area.

So since we are trying to risk $100, all we have to do is use it as cross margin and put $100 in place for it to replenish.

As everything that has advantages also has disadvantages. I will tell you the disadvantage if this method, and listen carefully so that you will not come and say you were not warned


If you activate a position on futures trading and use cross margin as the type of trading type rhat you want to open, and you have like $3000 in your wallet on the futures section, once you leave it running, that $3000 that is open and available can be used to replenish the active position, and in case of high leverage and volatility, you can loose it all, because if you have a a position open on *20 leverage, the trade only has to move against you by 10% and you are liquidated.

This method works perfectly with one position using cross margin open at a time on futures trading.

U can try other position using isolated margin to hedge it and calculate your stop loss the normal way

Before you use this method, you must have a strategy to determine your stop loss and entry point

Because if you don’t know where your stop loss is, and how much you are willing to loose and the reason why you want to enter that trade, then you don’t have any reason to try this method I am talking about

So when the position gets liquidated, you know that you have lost $100 on that trade

When you put that cross margin open, always don’t leave any money on the futures section except the money that you are willing to loose on that trade where your stop loss is

Remove every money from that section and put it into your trading area

I know why I am telling you

Lastly if you are trading futures, you need to have a little understanding of mathematics and percentage calculations

Alexas58:
I am expecting a fake bounce in the market soon.

Soon you’ll start seeing coins doing *100%, *85%
*200%

It’s called a bear trap babies…


Let’s get ready for the bear market.


The second cleaning will be brutal!

This is not the best time to buy according to my market direction method.
69 looks different from each persons view one sees 6 from his view, and another sees 9 from his view .

They are both correct, the market will do what you want, not when you want it to, but when it wants to do it. And there is nothing you can do about it.


Stop loss helps you cut your losses

Futures traders should be very careful about leveraging!, always know that leveraging puts pressure on your .

But the way to know best how much you want to put on a trade in your leveraging futures trading , I have discovered a pattern, which someone also talked about sometime ago, which I found useful and helpful too .


There are some smart lads on here, and there are some that try by all means to sound intelligent.


Those who trade futures trading, the best way to avoid liquidation mail

A very simple method I use which I find very exciting
There is a section in your futures trading where you have a futures calculator .


Before you use this method
You have to make sure the following are already noted
1. Your stop loss
2. Your entry point.

Once you have established your entry point, and your stop loss.
Your stop loss is the amount that you are willing to loose, let’s say we are willing to loose $100 on that trade, and your entry point

Now, that you have imputed your stop loss and entry point, what do you do next?

Step 2:

You go to your futures calculator and go to the liquidation part, click on it.

Now, you will put the entry price you want to enter , the stop loss tweak the stop loss to be 100%
Place the trade on whatever leverage you want to use.


Step 3:

When you are choosing the type of margin choose cross margin instead of isolated, and then you leave $100 open for that trade.

When you use cross margin it means that the money in that will keep replenishing when the trade reaches it liquidation area.

So since we are trying to risk $100, all we have to do is use it as cross margin and put $100 in place for it to replenish.

As everything that has advantages also has disadvantages. I will tell you the disadvantage if this method, and listen carefully so that you will not come and say you were not warned


If you activate a position on futures trading and use cross margin as the type of trading type rhat you want to open, and you have like $3000 in your wallet on the futures section, once you leave it running, that $3000 that is open and available can be used to replenish the active position, and in case of high leverage and volatility, you can loose it all, because if you have a a position open on *20 leverage, the trade only has to move against you by 10% and you are liquidated.

This method works perfectly with one position using cross margin open at a time on futures trading.

U can try other position using isolated margin to hedge it and calculate your stop loss the normal way

Before you use this method, you must have a strategy to determine your stop loss and entry point

Because if you don’t know where your stop loss is, and how much you are willing to loose and the reason why you want to enter that trade, then you don’t have any reason to try this method I am talking about

So when the position gets liquidated, you know that you have lost $100 on that trade

When you put that cross margin open, always don’t leave any money on the futures section except the money that you are willing to loose on that trade where your stop loss is

Remove every money from that section and put it into your trading area

I know why I am telling you

Lastly if you are trading futures, you need to have a little understanding of mathematics and percentage calculations

I need a market direction sir, I'm willing to pay $20 sir

DrShomo:


I need a market direction sir, I'm willing to pay $20 sir

you nor dae tire for this stale talk?

I when ILegend said that June was far too late for the altseason to begin,
Well he was very very wrong

Hadizometer:
I when ILegend said that June was far too late for the altseason to begin,
Well he was very very wrong

A man and a woman you see smiling today might end up being separated 3 weeks later.

Crypto is an industry where a brand new update can change trajectory. Your moniker doesn't look familiar to me, so you're probably one of those who aren't consistent about crypto update.

You came, read what I posted, disappeared and came back months later to remind me. Show proof where I said it so that I'll go reread what I wrote and learn from it.

Also, did you read my update, which I created a thread for on the 9th of February? And I spoke about June? https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8338318/crypto-must-read-those-crypto#134070030

Below is a repost:

Fed nears QT crossroads as 'excess liquidity' evaporates

A lot of you have lost 50 to 80% of whatever you invested in crypto since 2023, especially coins that are below top 10.

Why? You didn't pay attention to BTC dominance and you don't know the difference between BTC dominance Season in a bull run and Altcoin Season in a bull run.

Neither do you fully understand the 4 year cycle or even the meaning and effect of quantitative easing and quantitative tightening in crypto.

Anyway, today, I just read from a reliable source that QT will stop in June. And what does that mean? It means BTC dominance will also stop in June, 2025 (for altseason to start) and when this happens, a few weeks later, QE (quantitative easing) will start.

QT stoping stops BTC dominance.
QE starting starts Altseason.

See the image below to see their projection of when QT will stop and I believe them, but it might come earlier.

Does this mean from now till June, altcoins won't pump? Of course, they will, but whenever BTC sneezes and loses 10-12% in a day, all the alt's profits will be lost, including some percentage of your main capital because it's not yet its season to fully shine.

This is why you must take profits whenever your alts pump because by June, you'll lose all the profits (in an unexpected capitulation) before the main altseason starts and by then, you're already frustrated and have given up on crypto while labelling it a scam.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/fed-nears-qt-crossroads-excess-liquidity-evaporates-mcgeever-2025-02-07/

Hadizometer:
I when ILegend said that June was far too late for the altseason to begin,
Well he was very very wrong

So now that he is wrong, Please tell us the right one and what next?

Fastt:


12yrs in crypto and you are still trading? Which platform did you start with when there were limited sites to trade.
12yrs you still dey drop sp, tp. Nothing person no go read here.

E shock you abi? me that stumbled into Bitcoin in early 2017 and started physically mining it in 2018 never even stay reach 10 years for the matter

DrShomo:


I need a market direction sir, I'm willing to pay $20 sir

Like I said there are many smart lads on this forum, and there are many who try to sound smart



We are in a bear market
Bear market 2025


Keep waiting for alt season..
by their works they shall be known

robnectar Don’t forget that you people said u will sell by May and renter by June

11 days to May

Let’s wait for the bear trap babies… and leave my book of 50 bible stories for those who like reading story book

Alexas58:

Like I said there are many smart lads on this forum, and there are many who try to sound smart



We are in a bear market
Bear market 2025


Keep waiting for alt season..
by their works they shall be known

robnectar Don’t forget that you people said u will sell by May and renter by June

11 days to May

Let’s wait for the bear trap babies… and leave my book of 50 bible stories for those who like reading story book

U are really dat smart, I see

Hadizometer:
I when ILegend said that June was far too late for the altseason to begin,
Well he was very very wrong

he might not be entirely wrong yet because april candle is already turning bullish, if next month continues to be bullish then alts will definitely pump but I don't know how high sha.
Its better to trade what the market is doing than to hope the market does what you want. Your win rate will be higher that way

Fastt:


12yrs in crypto and you are still trading? Which platform did you start with when there were limited sites to trade.
12yrs you still dey drop sp, tp. Nothing person no go read here.

lol, eventually trading is now like a hobby. I do that whenever I need quick money. My business requires Travelling across continents and this signals u see you here are done on transit most of the time.

Maybe there’s someone here who needs it and stumbling on this thread, I believe I can help people who maybe finding it difficult to take some profit especially in the bear/range market.


Cheers

DrShomo:



U are really dat smart, I see

U are smart too
Just sell by May! As you planned and re- enter by June

Bear market 2025
Bear trap 2025!


Wait for it

The people want money.

Only few coins will pump in this bear trap

The coins you are holding might not pump, cos no hype on them….
New coins will be pumping like mad from now…


Just watch and see something



You wonder why they’re shilling new coins. If you are investing in altcoins, you have to be smart and ride with the trend

Market direction says so
As a smart student, if your method says other wise, tell us what your method is saying, and what we should expect from your analysis… we don’t care about how you came about the conclusion.

When it is found to be working
People will ask for it, many people will recommend it


This is a forum for ideas.

It’s meme coins season!


This fake bear trap will start from meme coins!


It’s already showing signs!

Cow ===> 0.2765

Goat ==> 0.0463

Use chicken change of like $20

If they don’t pump after 1 week from now, run oooo

Try these till May 25th

geedot:
In a nutshell, you learned how to fight like the Dothraki screamers, the Volantis Unsullied, the Seconds Sons bastards. You won't understand the above sentence if you didn't see the series Game of Thrones.

I started with price action, the most overhyped concept in trading IMHO. Price action behavior is why most people lose, because the chart alone is meant to confuse you, so to have success alone with price action is going to be a very herculean task.

Then I moved to trading like the bank, lol. Whoever brought that idea must be one delusional individual. How do you expect a retail trader with almost zero knowledge about the financial market trade like Ivy League grads and beat them at it consistently?
Hogwash if you asked me.

I moved to those that see trading as manipulation, I must be honest, this is where my consistency started coming from. I started seeing trading differently, that's because the person I learned this from had an almost 99% win rate. So I would be stupid not to believe whatever he was talking about.
The problem for me was that he uses too many indicators that made me lose interest in his method, as I'm anti indicator trader.
I started trading with naked chart and I never planned on going that indicator route as that might even take few more years to master which I didn't have.

While going through all these phases, I was making money obviously, but it wasn't as consistent as it should, until I came across using volume. It was the light bulb for me. I stopped calling chart Price Action, and instead Price Reaction to volume.

I saw reversals way before they happen, when the average price action traders are waiting for confirmation candle before entering, I was already in at a better price. I short on long bullish candles and long on bearish candles. No need waiting for confirmation in price action, I already made the decision by watching the volume delta with a very huge accuracy.

All in all, we thank God we finally found the path, it wasn't by one's doing. Even though I'm not that religious, I know I'm just lucky I finally found my way around it. Trading is extremely hard, and I hope and pray everyone still out there struggling gets his/her eyes opened soon enough too. Amen.

Good day boss.

Does this volume thing work in Forex market??

Is there a way one can induce or see it in Forex market??

geedot:
It's not my most used, but the only thing I use to determine if I'm longing a falling market or shorting a rising market. Nothing more, nothing less. It takes practice to reach this level but if you watch chart long enough accompanied by volume, you will start finding a way to work out a trading system for yourself.

Most alts have very low trading volume, so it's very easy for one fat finger to alter the flow. This causes inconsistency in the results. Reason why it's recommended to trade only those pairs with huge total trading volume like Bitcoin, Eth, Solana, Xrp too.

You don't need many pairs, I only trade gold and indices, few times Bitcoin. The lower timeframe would give you few trading opportunities daily and that should be enough. So Bitcoin and Eth should cut it for you.

About where to read, I've shared pdfs here before and a thread to read about it from in my previous posts this year. You can go through my previous post in search of them. It takes time, but it will be worth it.

See the GbpNzd chart, it's dropping already.

Could I message you please boss


This really looks interesting.

I'm more of a Forex trader at the moment than Crypto.

Just give me guides, notes and pointers on how to read and interpret the charts using this volume.

Where and how do I begin?? Thanks very much for this boss.

geedot:
In a nutshell, you learned how to fight like the Dothraki screamers, the Volantis Unsullied, the Seconds Sons bastards. You won't understand the above sentence if you didn't see the series Game of Thrones.

I started with price action, the most overhyped concept in trading IMHO. Price action behavior is why most people lose, because the chart alone is meant to confuse you, so to have success alone with price action is going to be a very herculean task.

Then I moved to trading like the bank, lol. Whoever brought that idea must be one delusional individual. How do you expect a retail trader with almost zero knowledge about the financial market trade like Ivy League grads and beat them at it consistently?
Hogwash if you asked me.

I moved to those that see trading as manipulation, I must be honest, this is where my consistency started coming from. I started seeing trading differently, that's because the person I learned this from had an almost 99% win rate. So I would be stupid not to believe whatever he was talking about.
The problem for me was that he uses too many indicators that made me lose interest in his method, as I'm anti indicator trader.
I started trading with naked chart and I never planned on going that indicator route as that might even take few more years to master which I didn't have.

While going through all these phases, I was making money obviously, but it wasn't as consistent as it should, until I came across using volume. It was the light bulb for me. I stopped calling chart Price Action, and instead Price Reaction to volume.

I saw reversals way before they happen, when the average price action traders are waiting for confirmation candle before entering, I was already in at a better price. I short on long bullish candles and long on bearish candles. No need waiting for confirmation in price action, I already made the decision by watching the volume delta with a very huge accuracy.

All in all, we thank God we finally found the path, it wasn't by one's doing. Even though I'm not that religious, I know I'm just lucky I finally found my way around it. Trading is extremely hard, and I hope and pray everyone still out there struggling gets his/her eyes opened soon enough too. Amen.

Price itself is a lagging indicator. I think this is one of the best lessons i have learned in forex trading.

Anyone on HBAR here? Seems no one is talking about it.

Alexas58:

U are smart too
Just sell by May! As you planned and re- enter by June

Bear market 2025
Bear trap 2025!


Wait for it

Still waiting for market direction sir Alex

Prophetkelly:
Anyone on HBAR here? Seems no one is talking about it.

I'm holding hbar

LincolnOnyeabor:


Good day boss.

Does this volume thing work in Forex market??

Is there a way one can induce or see it in Forex market??

Yes it does, I just made use of it on the Pound/New Zealand Dollar yesterday. Price literally stopped moving up and ranged for the rest of the day.

I didn't know it was going to stop going up but that exhaustion I saw in buying volume signified it and that was exactly what happened.

Let me explain how the tick volume delta indicator works in a layman term so you can understand why it's easy to use to gauge the market.

Imagine you're doing push ups, even if I don't know how many push ups you can do. Maybe 150, 200 etc it doesn't matter.

But if I watch you doing it, I can know when you're getting tired and would get exhausted anytime soon. You can say how?

Let's assume it takes you 6seconds to do 10 push ups, and you kept up this pace till you got to 70, after this, it starts taking you 8seconds to do 10, you are getting tired, even if I don't know you from anywhere, I know sooner rather than later you will give up.

You got to 100, and it's now taking you 12seconds to do 10, I'm watching you and keeping note of how slow you've become. I have all these info, because I've paid attention to the pace you started with and the current pace you're now, I know sooner rather than later you would give up.

It's the same with price, because price goes up strongly or weakly doesn't mean the same thing is happening underneath the hood. Some people make use of moving averages to determine this, some Stochastics, whatever it is you want to use to gauge it, you have to be an expert in interpreting it to get high accuracy with it.

geedot:
Yes it does, I just made use of it on the Pound/New Zealand Dollar yesterday. Price literally stopped moving up and ranged for the rest of the day.

I didn't know it was going to stop going up but that exhaustion I saw in buying volume signified it and that was exactly what happened.

Let me explain how the tick volume delta indicator works in a layman term so you can understand why it's easy to use to gauge the market.

Imagine you're doing push ups, even if I don't know how many push ups you can do. Maybe 150, 200 etc it doesn't matter.

But if I watch you doing it, I can know when you're getting tired and would get exhausted anytime soon. You can say how?

Let's assume it takes you 6seconds to do 10 push ups, and you kept up this pace till you got to 70, after this, it starts taking you 8seconds to do 10, you are getting tired, even if I don't know you from anywhere, I know sooner rather than later you will give up.

You got to 100, and it's now taking you 12seconds to do 10, I'm watching you and keeping note of how slow you've become. I have all these info, because I've paid attention to the pace you started with and the current pace you're now, I know sooner rather than later you would give up.

It's the same with price, because price goes up strongly or weakly doesn't mean the same thing is happening underneath the hood. Some people make use of moving averages to determine this, some Stochastics, whatever it is you want to use to gauge it, you have to be an expert in interpreting it to get high accuracy with it.

Yeah. I saw it play out right now.

I've gone to My trading view and I've added the delta Volume indicator. It's how to interpret it I'm looking at presently.

Also, I'm reading up on all your posts on Nairaland. It's 36 pages in total.

I'm at page 3 presently.

Can I still come to you if I have any questions or need further clarifications sir??