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Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Why not take this message seriously??

we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire

God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.

Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.

Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

Jokeman, are you joking ní?

I don't understand why Jesus added fire to hell. There was no hell fire in the Old Testament. Was Jesus joking about hell fire ni?

But, He will be the judge and should have known what His judgement would be.

Hell fire 🔥
Fire 🔥 fires 🔥 fayayayaya 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Jokerman:
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Why not take this message seriously??

we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire

God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.

Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.

Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

Jesus spoke in parables, no spirit survives death, at death man has been discharged of all his wrongdoings! Romans 6:7

MightySparrow:
Jokeman, are you joking ní?

I don't understand why Jesus added fire to hell. There was no hell fire in the Old Testament. Was Jesus joking about hell fire ni?

But, He will be the judge and should have known what His judgement would be.

Hell fire 🔥
Fire 🔥 fires 🔥 fayayayaya 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

That's the damnation.

Jesus came from above and He knows all things that why he warned us.

It is called Hell because of the punishment and destruction there....

Maximus692:


Jesus spoke in parables, no spirit survives death, at death man has been discharged of all his wrongdoings! Romans 6:7

Lol... There is a place of peace too.

God does not lie.

Jokerman:


That's the damnation.

Jesus came from above and He knows all things that why he warned us.

It is called Hell because of the punishment and destruction there....

But some say hell is just grave nah. What about the 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fayayayaya 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Maximus692:


Jesus spoke in parables, no spirit survives death, at death man has been discharged of all his wrongdoings! Romans 6:7

How does Roman 6:7 fit into the equation if you start reading Paul's argument from chapter 1 to the end?


Delusional interpretation.

Jokerman:

Lol... There is a place of peace too.
God does not lie.

This is what God said before Jesus came in to the world:


They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. ‭Jeremiah 7:31 NIV‬


Burning people alive has not entered the mind of God rather what He said in the beginning is that death ends Adam's rebellion {Genesis 2:17; 3:19} perhaps you believe God lied to Adam about death and Satan is the one saying the truth! Genesis 3:4

MightySparrow:

How does Roman 6:7 fit into the equation if you start reading Paul's argument from chapter 1 to the end?
Delusional interpretation.

Romans 6:7 reads:


Anyone who has died has been set free from sin.


WHY?

Because death is the wages of sin! Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Or do you think Satan is the one telling us the truth about the condition of the dead? Genesis 3:4

Maximus692:


Romans 6:7 reads:


Anyone who has died has been set free from sin.


WHY?

Because death is the wages of sin! Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Or do you think Satan is the one telling us the truth about the condition of the dead? Genesis 3:4

Start reading without bias from chapter 1: 1. Your position as an organization doesn't hold water. Read objectively without the spectacle of your GB.
Romans is so clear about most Bible doctrines.
Taking one verse and building doctrine around it doesn't make sense.

MightySparrow:

Start reading without bias from chapter 1: 1. Your position as an organization doesn't hold water. Read objectively without the spectacle of your GB.
Romans is so clear about most Bible doctrines. Taking one verse and building doctrine around it doesn't make sense.

OK if you have read from the beginning can you explain what Paul meant in verse 7?

People in hell, buried in mental graves are preaching of a future hellfire. Mad people

Nations that forget God shall be turned into hell, and people who forget God shall become denizens of graves

Psalm 9:17
King James Version
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Then they ask you why is American not hell because all the corruption in the world comes from there?

That's the question from fools.

MrPresident1:
People in hell, buried in mental graves are preaching of a future hellfire. Mad people

Nations that forget God shall be turned into hell, and people who forget God shall become denizens of graves

Psalm 9:17
King James Version
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Then they ask you why is American not hell because all the corruption in the world comes from there?

That's the question from fools.

Psalms 9:17 Hebrew language
"The wicked WILL RETURN TO SHEOL all the nations that forget God" (compare Genesis 3:19, the wicked Adam RETURNED TO SHEOL (the grave) dust that Adam came from.)
Oga, you dey see am?


The Hebrew manuscripts of Psalms 9:17 reads Sheol (meaning grave, dust, ground) but your Trinitarian mentors ADDED BE TURNED into HELL into that verse.

Check every verse where Sheol is used in the old testament & discover how they are deceiving you by changing the real meaning of SHEOL.
Pls go & learn.

Jokerman:
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Why not take this message seriously??

we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire

God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.

Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.

Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

Jesus Christ teach Gehenna @ Mark 9:43-48.
View the screenshot Greek lexicon of Mark 9:43

Men invented hellfire NOT Jesus Christ.
Gehenna is NOT hellfire.
This Bible truth is very bitter pill .

MightySparrow:

Start reading without bias from chapter 1: 1. Your position as an organization doesn't hold water. Read objectively without the spectacle of your GB.
Romans is so clear about most Bible doctrines.
Taking one verse and building doctrine around it doesn't make sense.

Oga @ Genesis 3:19, how many times did God punish Adam the first human sinner?

Just continue deceiving yourself.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Janosky:

Jesus Christ teach Gehenna @ Mark 9:43-48.
View the screenshot Greek lexicon of Mark 9:43

Men invented hellfire NOT Jesus Christ.
Gehenna is NOT hellfire.
This Bible truth is very bitter pill .

20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Luke 16:22 And it came to , that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Jokerman:


20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Luke 16:22 And it came to , that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Oga you did not refute this points 1 & 2 ,

*Point 1:
Jesus Christ teach Gehenna @ Mark 9:43-48.
View the screenshot Greek lexicon of Mark 9:43

Point 2:
Men invented hellfire NOT Jesus Christ.
Gehenna is NOT hellfire.
This Bible truth is very bitter pill .

You jumped to Revelation 20:13-14 & Luke 16:22-24.

The Greek word @ Revelation 20:13-14 & Luke 16:23 is HADES.

Oga, is HADES a place of torture and torment?

No.

Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "HELL" to those verses.

This is the point you have to understand.
The word "hell" was ADDED to your Bible.

SHEOL,Hades , Gehenna were the actual 3 words in your Bible.
These 3 words do NOT have any connections to torture and torment.

Janosky:



Psalms 9:17 Hebrew language
"The wicked WILL RETURN TO SHEOL all the nations that forget God" (compare Genesis 3:19, the wicked Adam RETURNED TO SHEOL (the grave) dust that Adam came from.)
Oga, you dey see am?


The Hebrew manuscripts of Psalms 9:17 reads Sheol (meaning grave, dust, ground) but your Trinitarian mentors ADDED BE TURNED into HELL into that verse.

Check every verse where Sheol is used in the old testament & discover how they are deceiving you by changing the real meaning of SHEOL.
Pls go & learn.

Lol Eleri jehofa and their twisted bible and lies. Why are there no virgins in eleri Jehofa?

Janosky:


Oga @ Genesis 3:19, how many times did God punish Adam the first human sinner?

Just continue deceiving yourself.

You say?

MrPresident1:


Lol Eleri jehofa and their twisted bible and lies. Why are there no virgins in eleri Jehofa?

Awọn ẹlẹri Jèhófà njẹri Governing Body ni. Wọn kò mọ jehofa rárá.

Bóyá ni Jèhófà máa wọ́n.

Jokerman:
..✓ Why not take this message seriously??
✓ we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire
✓ God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.
✓ Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.
✓ Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

1. Probably because the same one whose words you quote equally said that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel—the literal bloodline of Jacob alone—, and the fact that He also made clear in His gospel that with those He was was sent to, it is only that which is stored up in their hearts that can make them sin. Merely cutting off hands, legs, and plucking out eyes does not cause one to stop sinning.

What that means is that if you Christian folks —religion of the dogs whom Jesus Christ of Israel was against —where to set up yet another denomination where you resort to butchering your bodies in the name of your Christian gods, you will be regarded the same as you have all this while, as lunatics, still without a connection to the book or those it was in fact meant for.

2. The book you quote from instead claims that the man, Adam, was created in the image of God, in the image of the goodness of YHWH— YHWH declared Adam of good quality right after creating Him. And the same book goes on to explain that Adam later fell from that image and was cursed to die— that which is cursed is not of YHWH.

When you deviate from the facts contained in the book by way of your religious gobbledegook, you cease to reason along with the book.

3. He cannot change His Word, yet He is written to have done it at least once? You folks should stop pretending you have an understanding of the Israelite God who made clear that He is God only of Israel, abeg.

4. You should abandon religion so that sense can find you. Abandon it before it is too late for your mind to repair itself..

5. He said He is God and Father only to the Israelites whom He is God over. But I guess that means nothing since you believe you are in charge of Him to tell Him who He is, God over and Father of, right? 😩😩😩

Kobojunkie:
1. Probably because the same one whose words you quote equally said that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel -- the literal bloodline of Jacob alone--- and the fact that He also made clear in His gospel that with those He was was sent to, it is only that which is stored up in their hearts that can make them sin.

What that means is that if you Christians -- religion of the dogs--- create another denomination for yourselves where you will resort to butchering your bodies in the name of your Christian gods, you will be regarded the same as you have all this while, as lunatics.

2. The book you quote from instead claims that the man, Adam, was created in the image of God -- an image of goodness of God. And the same book explained that He later fell from that image and was cursed to die, abandoning that original image completely.

When you deviate from the facts contained from the book by way of a your religious gobbledegook you cease to reason along with the book.

3. He cannot change His Word yet He is written to have done it at least once? You folks should stop pretending you have understanding of the Israelite God who made clear that He is God only of Israel, abeg.

4. You should abandon religion so sense can find you. Abandon it before it is too late for your mind to repair itself..

5. He said He is God and Father only to the Israelites whom He is God over. But I guess to you that means absolutely nothing since you believe you are in charge of Him to tell Him who He is God over and Father of, right? 😩😩😩

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Janosky:

Oga you did not refute this points 1 & 2 ,

*Point 1:
Jesus Christ teach Gehenna @ Mark 9:43-48.
View the screenshot Greek lexicon of Mark 9:43

Point 2:
Men invented hellfire NOT Jesus Christ.
Gehenna is NOT hellfire.
This Bible truth is very bitter pill .

You jumped to Revelation 20:13-14 & Luke 16:22-24.

The Greek word @ Revelation 20:13-14 & Luke 16:23 is HADES.

Oga, is HADES a place of torture and torment?

No.

Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "HELL" to those verses.

This is the point you have to understand.
The word "hell" was ADDED to your Bible.

SHEOL,Hades , Gehenna were the actual 3 words in your Bible.
These 3 words do NOT have any connections to torture and torment.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Jokerman:
.... Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal....

The quote you extracted from the Words of the God of Israel spoken through Jesus Christ of Israel does not indicate that those of them— descendants of Jacob— selected for everlasting punishment--- His version of Hell--- without eyes, legs or limbs would be spared the punishment though.

troll

MightySparrow:


Awọn ẹlẹri Jèhófà njẹri Governing Body ni. Wọn kò mọ jehofa rárá.

Bóyá ni Jèhófà máa wọ́n.

When lies travels no matter how far it has gone truth will catch up with it in a second.
Death is what God said is punishment for sin and Adam died completely just as God said! Genesis 2:17; 3:19

MaxInDHouse:
When lies travels no matter how far it has gone truth will catch up with it in a second.
Death is what God said is punishment for sin and Adam died completely just as God said! Genesis 2:17; 3:19

I pray the Lord opens your eyes, so you don't make an eternal mistake.

There is no repentance in the grave.

How hard is it for you to ask the Lord for guidance and revelation concerning this subject of afterlife??

Stupid hellfire doctrines scare no one anymore. If it did, people would be a bit more afraid to do evil, but see what we have in society. Stupid hellfire doctrines are no longer enough to put people in check, rational people realise that God does not literally incinerate dead people. But it is a symbolic use of language. This is all about the soul. The soul that sinneth it shall die, this death is separation from the spirit of God.

Hell is right here on this earth ands it is a condition of human existence, people whos spirit and souls have been separated from God and living a hopeless toilsome life are the people in hell. The Bible says that nations that forget God shall be turned into hell.

You cannot preach hell to Nigerians who are already in hell abi are they toiling and living a meagre life in American or British as we are doing here? Is this why people are japaing to those places? You better give yourself understanding

Jokerman, perish your hellfire doctrine, it doesn't cut sh!t anymore.

Jokerman:

I pray the Lord opens your eyes, so you don't make an eternal mistake. There is no repentance in the grave. How hard is it for you to ask the Lord for guidance and revelation concerning this subject of afterlife??

Whatever anyone or any spirit tells you that's contrary to what the Bible explains about the condition of the dead is from demons. Galatians 1:8

So don't be deceived by voices from the spirit realms claiming they are Lord or Jesus! 2Corinthians 11:14

Jokerman:
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Why not take this message seriously??

we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire

God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.

Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.

Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

Below is Ecclesiastics 9:10. Does the verse say that there is suffering in hell?

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible

Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Jokerman:


That's the damnation.

Jesus came from above and He knows all things that why he warned us.

It is called Hell because of the punishment and destruction there....

What burns in hell?