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ufotunang: 12:23pm On Apr 08
plouchea24:


This is not true.
..tell me where in the constitution senators have immunity..which section
plouchea24: 2:18pm On Apr 08
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You are right if it's in term of supremacy but when it comes to senate, senate rules are considered supreme, expecially if it has to do with in-house matters or affairs. That is why they didn't use the Nigeria constitution to suspend Natasha, eventhough they claimed to equal under Nigeria constitution.
plouchea24: 2:19pm On Apr 08
ufotunang:
..tell me where in the constitution senators have immunity..which section

Then, you should tell us too, where a sitting senator was once indicted or prosecuted before the court of law.
plouchea24: 2:29pm On Apr 08
DriveByKiller:
you mean you don't actually know and you are this bold?

Sec 308 of the1999 constitution carter's to only president, vice, governors and their deputies.

All other elected officials are without immunity.

I hope you have seen the former senate president Ekweremadu chased by effc and law enforcement both home and abroad.

When last did you read anything outside Nairaland?

First, Ike Ekweremadu was never the president of the senate. He was the deputy to the senate president.

Secondly, prosecution and his jail term was after he left senate.
loffyloffy: 2:30pm On Apr 08
DaddyCoool:


So now you know that spreading defamatory info is not opinion.
Natasha is NOT "mother of six from different men", she's NOT a “gold digger”, neither is she “habitual liar,” and “habitual blackmailer”!

Defamation: A general term referring to making false statements that damage a person's reputation.

So if the guy can provide a backstory ing his opinion, like instances in which Natasha has been caught in a lie, examples of when and who she blackmailed , and when she used another person to advance her course then there is no case here.

But like I said, all theses is just academic, it is my opinion that none of the court cases she is throwing up will be pursued to any serious degree.

In the Nigerian palance..they are just 'audio court cases'
ufotunang: 2:47pm On Apr 08
plouchea24:


Then, you should tell us too, where a sitting senator was once indicted or prosecuted before the court of law.
... according to the research I did at Google..they said senators have parliamentary privileges..
DriveByKiller: 2:55pm On Apr 08
plouchea24:


First, Ike Ekweremadu was never the president of the senate. He was the deputy to the senate president.

Secondly, prosecution and his jail term was after he left senate.
Noted.

No senate member, not the senate president or deputy senate president has immunity.

If you still insist on this path of ignorance then show us the section in the constitution that convey immunity to the senate president
plouchea24: 2:57pm On Apr 08
DriveByKiller:
Noted.

No senate member, not the senate president or deputy senate president has immunity.

If you still insist on this path of ignorance then show us the section in the constitution that convey immunity to the senate president

It's not termed immunity.. The clause is termed parliamentary privilege.
DaddyCoool(f): 3:00pm On Apr 08
loffyloffy:


Defamation: A general term referring to making false statements that damage a person's reputation.

So if the guy can provide a backstory ing his opinion, like instances in which Natasha has been caught in a lie, examples of when and who she blackmailed , and when she used another person to advance her course then there is no case here.

But like I said, all theses is just academic, it is my opinion that none of the court cases she is throwing up will be pursued to any serious degree.

In the Nigerian palance..they are just 'audio court cases'

Why didn't you also look up definitions of opinion and blackmail also.
Saying someone has 6 kids from different fathers is NOT an opinion.
Blackmail is a criminal offense and involves demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing damaging information about them.
"Audio cases" - are you a lawyer? She is!
plouchea24: 3:00pm On Apr 08
ufotunang:
... according to the research I did at Google..they said senators have parliamentary privileges..


You can just had to your knowledge. Not only to the lawmakers, even extended to the judiciary. Except for the executive heads that used to made public and very common. It's different entity with distinct functions but shared almost thesame privileges.
DriveByKiller: 3:01pm On Apr 08
plouchea24:


It's not termed immunity.. The clause is termed parliamentary privilege.
grin
plouchea24: 3:06pm On Apr 08
ufotunang:
..tell me where in the constitution senators have immunity..which section

Open your mind to learn. Constitution is very supreme. But, everything was not binded to Constitution alone. People of a culture designed the Constitution, and the culture was made superior than the Constitution. The subject of Constitution is only for the abuse of power, not for crime, or other related offences..
plouchea24: 3:09pm On Apr 08
DriveByKiller:
Noted.

No senate member, not the senate president or deputy senate president has immunity.

If you still insist on this path of ignorance then show us the section in the constitution that convey immunity to the senate president

What you forget is that, they too are elected officials.
loffyloffy: 3:33pm On Apr 08
DaddyCoool:


Why didn't you also look up definitions of opinion and blackmail also.
Saying someone has 6 kids from different fathers is NOT an opinion.
Blackmail is a criminal offense and involves demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing damaging information about them.
"Audio cases" - are you a lawyer? She is!

I never said the claim of 6 kids is an opinion..infact, I called it a statement of fact to be ed or disclaimed.

Blackmail can also be used broadly to include threatening someone to do what you want, just today, China made a statement that they will resist the blackmailing tendency of the USA in the ongoing trade war between the two countries.

And yes it is my opinion that she is using this law cases as a threat and to keep the issues alive in the media rather than pursuing the cases rigorously, hence the term 'Audio Cases'
bamosagie(m): 3:37pm On Apr 08
Ebubu:
Akpabio will simply tell the APC judge to throw the suit away.
You are dragging a sitting senator protected from immunity to court.
Waste of money.

Even the senate president does not have immunity..... it is better to keep quiet sometimes.

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DaddyCoool(f): 3:41pm On Apr 08
loffyloffy:


I never said the claim of 6 kids is an opinion..infact, I called it a statement of fact to be ed or disclaimed.

Blackmail can also be used broadly to include threatening someone to do what you want, just today, China made a statement that they will resist the blackmailing tendency of the USA in the ongoing trade war between the two countries.

And yes it is my opinion that she is using this law cases as a threat and to keep the issues alive in the media rather than pursuing the cases rigorously, hence the term 'Audio Cases'

You should have ascertained whether 6 kids was true before saying she had no case.
Any word can be used colloquially. You can say Europe raped Africa. Quite different from calling someone a rapist. Same way, Chna/US is different from calling someone a "habitual blackmailer".
As for audio, once again, she's a lawyer, you are NOT!!

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loffyloffy: 3:52pm On Apr 08
DaddyCoool:


You should have ascertained whether 6 kids was true before saying she had no case.
Any word can be used colloquially. You can say Europe raped Africa. Quite different from calling someone a rapist. Same way, Chna/US is different from calling someone a "habitual blackmailer".
As for audio, once again, she's a lawyer, you are NOT!!

Bros..or Auntie or even Brosauntie whichever one you be, clearly you are misreading my post.

I don't have to anything said about her, I am only an observer, all I did was to classify some of the statements from the male senator, into actual statements that can be factually checked in the court or mere opinion that if not ed will have to be withdrawn.

It is not relevant if she is a lawyer or not, what is relevant is her antecedents of using legal cases as a publicity stunts, just on the current issue alone she has initiated more than a couple of cases.

In all probability those cases are just stunts, nothing more
kennyamusan(m): 4:17pm On Apr 08
yarimo:
Mumu woman if yahaya Bello, RENO OMOKRI and others you lied against them decided to files lawsuit against you do you think you will survive it ? Unfortunate woman #5 billions Kee you there undecided
If she is lieing, let them challenge her in court . Before you die , At least use your brain to think for once
Charmingpet: 4:52pm On Apr 08
wellmax:
But really which of the senator’s statements is false.

All are verifiable.

She demanded money from her now husband when the guy wanted to back out of the marriage.

She’s accused several other people of sexual harassment before .

The woman is just a noisemaker.
you will soon them
Charmingpet: 4:57pm On Apr 08
Exceed15:


Story.. someone who even sued her husband in 2020 of food poisoning and failed marriage promise..
go to court and proof that, stop disturbing us
Exceed15: 5:07pm On Apr 08
Charmingpet:
go to court and proof that, stop disturbing us

Mumu proof what !? Didn't u see it spread all over social media and Natasha did not come out to debunk it.
Trustyourself: 7:07pm On Apr 08
plouchea24:


Blantant lies. Forget Nigeria constitution. Senate standing rules and order is much more stronger than that. Senators are not under the oath to that. They have their rules considered stronger and much enshrined than Nigeria constitution. You can not file a lawsuit against a sitting Senator.


Can you state a section of the Senate Standing Rule that says you cannot sue a senator?
Gudiza(m): 8:45pm On Apr 08
have been patiently waiting for this suit.
everybody dey play with sense this one just carry body throway for express....like a disposable tissue picked from the gutter.
Now we know the Senators serving Akpabio 'tea' in his home & taking minutes that's why he's a witness to Natasha's Akpabio home visit.
Last last, 10th assembly is run like a mafia-style club house!
DaddyCoool(f): 8:57pm On Apr 08
loffyloffy:


Bros..or Auntie or even Brosauntie whichever one you be, clearly you are misreading my post.

I don't have to anything said about her, I am only an observer, all I did was to classify some of the statements from the male senator, into actual statements that can be factually checked in the court or mere opinion that if not ed will have to be withdrawn.

It is not relevant if she is a lawyer or not, what is relevant is her antecedents of using legal cases as a publicity stunts, just on the current issue alone she has initiated more than a couple of cases.

In all probability those cases are just stunts, nothing more

I'd call you simply Auntie.. Auntie, here’s your statement verbatim: "none of the cases is going anywhere". How can that be true if she only has 3 kids and he's going about saying she has 6?? And how can blackmail be true when she's happily married to the same, who has said he warned Akpabio to leave his wife alone. How can you know better than him if he was blackmailed??
loffyloffy: 10:57pm On Apr 08
DaddyCoool:


I'd call you simply Auntie.. Auntie, here’s your statement verbatim: "none of the cases is going anywhere". How can that be true if she only has 3 kids and he's going about saying she has 6?? And how can blackmail be true when she's happily married to the same, who has said he warned Akpabio to leave his wife alone. How can you know better than him if he was blackmailed??

It is my opinion that the cases are going no where, it is yours that it will get somewhere.

We both have a right to our opinions, in the next year or so, it will be clear who got it right.

Mind you my opinion is not based on the merit or otherwise of the case itself, but on her antecedent.

Plus there are so many of the cases she is initiating, how many can she really pursue?
Babinski: 10:14am On Apr 09
loffyloffy:


You cannot sue people for expressing opinion though, you can only challenge facts and that is if you can prove that those facts are wrong and deliberately used to discredit you.

'Gold digger''serial liar' are just opinions.

'Mother of six from different men' is a statement of fact, she only needs to show us that those statements are not true.

'Falsely accusing Reno' is a fact, she have to show the court that the statement is incorrect.

'Blackmailing her current husband' is a fact, sha have to show us, she didn't do that.

She also have to show the amount of damage done to her to justify the payment of N5b.

I think she just like suing people, none of the cases is going anywhere..That is an opinion by the way, she can't sue me for my opinion

I don't think you have ever been in court before or have any form of legal knowledge. What Senator Nwaebonyi has done is make claims which are defamatory to Natasha. In law, he who asserts must prove. So he needs to prove with facts how Natasha is a gold digger, a habitual liar, a blackmailer and how she contracted her marriage under blackmail. If you think those claims are easy to prove in court for Nwaebonyi, then you need to think twice.
loffyloffy: 3:34pm On Apr 09
Babinski:


I don't think you have ever been in court before or have any form of legal knowledge. What Senator Nwaebonyi has done is make claims which are defamatory to Natasha. In law, he who asserts must prove. So he needs to prove with facts how Natasha is a gold digger, a habitual liar, a blackmailer and how she contracted her marriage under blackmail. If you think those claims are easy to prove in court for Nwaebonyi, then you need to think twice.

You seems to be of the opinion that this case will have its day in the court..my view is that it won't
Babinski: 6:16pm On Apr 09
loffyloffy:


You seems to be of the opinion that this case will have its day in the court..my view is that it won't


Do you think Senator Nwaebonyi a d Natasha will reach a political truce or that a Judge will dismiss the case?

Natasha has already provided evidence of the defamation in her suit. If she is determined to pursue it, I can bet you Nwaebonyi will eventually bend and apologize.

In 2020 when Govenor Samuel Ortom sued Adam Oshiomole for defamation (libel) and he was determined to pursue it, Oshiomole bent after failing to have the case dismissed. He opted for out of court settlement and apologized to Ortom publicly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/oshiomhole-opts-for-out-of-court-settlement-in-n10bn-libel-suit/amp/
loffyloffy: 7:39pm On Apr 09
Babinski:


Do you think Senator Nwaebonyi a d Natasha will reach a political truce or that a Judge will dismiss the case?

Natasha has already provided evidence of the defamation in her suit. If she is determined to pursue it, I can bet you Nwaebonyi will eventually bend and apologize.I

In 2020 when Govenor Samuel Ortom sued Adam Oshiomole for defamation (libel) and he was determined to pursue it, Oshiomole bent after failing to have the case dismissed. He opted for out of court settlement and apologized to Ortom publicly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/oshiomhole-opts-for-out-of-court-settlement-in-n10bn-libel-suit/amp/

We will all be here
Helpfromabove1(m): 10:27pm On Apr 09
plouchea24:



HE IS RIGHT. YOU CAN NOT INDICT A SITTING SEANATOR.

Firstly INDICT and SUE are two different legal language

Secondly a senator can sue and be sued
The law only gives the senator immunity ONLY while discussing matters on the floor of the sanate or committee meeting

And this one is on social media and television sations


Pls be informed

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