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Antichristian2:


His image does not exist. Even in films he's not represented like Jesus. So the comparison is faulty.

Who want to be associated with a 6yr old fvckerr

The question of whether it’s biblical for men not to wear a cap (or head covering) in church likely stems from 1 Corinthians 11:4-7 in the New Testament, where Paul writes:"Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head.


But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man." (NIV)In this age, Paul instructs that men should not cover their heads during worship (praying or prophesying), as it dishonors their "head," which some interpret as Christ or their spiritual authority. This contrasts with women, whom he instructs to cover their heads. The reasoning ties into cultural and theological ideas of the time—men reflecting God’s glory directly, while women reflect man’s glory.

However, context matters. In 1st-century Corinth, head coverings carried cultural significance. For men, uncovering the head may have distinguished Christian practice from certain pagan or Jewish customs where head coverings were common. For women, covering the head was tied to modesty and social norms. Scholars debate whether Paul’s instructions were universal or specific to that culture. Elsewhere, the Bible doesn’t broadly mandate headgear rules for men in worship settings—Old Testament priests, for example, wore head coverings (Exodus 28:40-41), but that was ceremonial, not general practice.Today, many Christian denominations see this as a contextual issue, not a binding rule.

Most don’t require men to go bareheaded in church, nor do they forbid it—practicality and personal choice often prevail unless a specific tradition (like some Orthodox or Messianic Jewish groups) emphasizes otherwise.So, is it biblical? Based on 1 Corinthians 11, yes, there’s a case for men not wearing caps in church during worship.
But it’s not an absolute command across all scripture or universally enforced today—it’s more of a situational teaching than a core doctrine.

IyfeNamikaze:
because Cesar was a powerful political figure who elevated himself to almost god status and had temples to his name. He was the emperor of Rome and all it's colonies so yes he will have an image of himself just like every other political figure of renowned of that time.

Christ was a common folk, he wasn't a political figure nor an emperor, neither did he have the power or money to hire a sculpture to sculpt his image. Even if he did, he would never allow it.

Are you trying to imply that Christ's picture was never drawn anywhere?
How come most portraits depict him as a man with long hairs and bearded face?

bodmas119:
I need someone to explain to me better where is it written in the Bible for men not to be wearing caps when they are inside church.

Not written anywhere. It's men's doctrine

MaxInDHouse:

Who made Jesus' portrait?

ask Google

femi4:

Not written anywhere. It's men's doctrine

But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head shames his head. 1Corinthans 11:3-4

So according to the scriptures whoever worships with cap on his head shames Christ the head of every man!

SQLmastar:
Are you trying to imply that Christ's picture was never drawn anywhere?
How come most portraits depict him as a man with long hairs and bearded face?

The reason was simply this..
The painters during the Renaissance period depicted him the way the Roman Catholic Church wanted him depicted..like them..like White people.
Who wanted their Lord and Savior to look loke common Jews?
Jews aren't particularly beautiful people.
They have this unpleasant look about them..
There were certainly enough Jews in Europe at the time...
The Roman Church commissioned painters to turn not only Jesus but all the disciples to white people.
Even the black saints like St.Maurice and St.Monica were depicted as being White people until the Vatican apologized over the error in the 19th century..

muyico:
ask Google

Google has Muhammad's portrait do you agree with what they painted?

Unfortunately, so mis-led followers or attendants are holding value in their pastors/ordained men of God instead of focusing on the word of God!

So, yes! Some vulnerable and ignorant are worshipping their pastors, and its becoming a trend!

Validated:

So, you are worshipping Pastors and clergymen abi?

MaxInDHouse:

Google has Muhammad's portrait do you agree with what they painted?

no
Reason why no Muhammad portrait
During jihadish war! They wounded his face, so his face was totally damaged, I will quote d Quran verse for u soon

SQLmastar:
Are you trying to imply that Christ's picture was never drawn anywhere?
How come most portraits depict him as a man with long hairs and bearded face?

Yes it was never drawn anywhere. The pictures you're seeing all started during the renniessance period , about 700 years after the death of Christ. And if you look very well most of these images of Jesus all have European features, that's because they were drawn or painted by an European painter with an European sitter ( the person who modelled the Painting) .

MaxInDHouse:


So how come you think Google could have the image of Jesus who lived 570 years before Muhammad?
If Muhammad didn't have a picture what makes you feel Jesus' image could be found?

And even of Jesus image was found and discovere, it means he actually existed compared to a man who's image can't be found or discovered...

muyico:
no
Reason why no Muhammad portrait
During jihadish war! They wounded his face, so his face was totally damaged, I will quote d Quran verse for u soon

Guy there was no portrait of Jesus it was fabricated by pagans claiming Christians because in paganism you must see the image of your God.

JASONjnr:

And even of Jesus image was found and discovere, it means he actually existed compared to a man who's image can't be found or discovered...

There was no portrait of Jesus because he wasn't a celebrity it's only celebrities that artists use to paint their drawings not someone who was hated among his own people!

Antichristian2:


Your biblical Christ wasn't a common man! In Matthew when he died many dead arose! So why can't those who him carve his image?

He was a common man as he is the Son of God.
As man he was as common as everyone else, he was no king, rich man, emperor or governor. He was the son of a carpenter and a rabbi. You need to be very wealthy and powerful to be able to afford a sculpture in those days, a flamboyant display of wealth the Christ will never engage in.

Do you think a sculpture would just wake up one day and Start carving the image of a person who's not going to pay them for their work? The person who's going to be sculpted would also have to sit for the sculpting. These people don't Sculpt off head, they need a reference for the image they are sculpting. You also have to be very wealthy to be able to afford them.

The early followers of Christ were most commoners like himself, a few Pharisees followed him but most of them did that just to debate with him and neither of these people were sculptures.

MaxInDHouse:

But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head shames his head. 1Corinthans 11:3-4

So according to the scriptures whoever worships with cap on his head shames Christ the head of every man!

shames his head not Christ.

Love800:
Your comment made so much sense. I like guys who do critical reasoning. Many people will not still pay attention to this cultural and spiritual analysing that you just put!

I appreciate.

You are wlc sir.
The Roman cultural rules that guides a married woman to cover their heads in public places as a show of marital submission to her husband also guides married men that covering their heads is shameful and shows that they are submissive to their wives at home which is bad.
The Question is: What about women that are not married? Should they also cover their head as a show of submission to a husband they don't have?
In Indian culture, a married woman show sign of marriage by putting a read mark on their foreheads always. When you see that it shows the person is married.
In Western culture, it is a ring. When you see a ring on the finger of a man or woman, it shows the person is married.

So, it is more of a cultural thing and not spiritual.

Thanks

Antichristian2:
Jesus didn't wear cap because he had long hair according to those artist's pictures!

Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:7 talk say: A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.

Abeg o! But why the small cap for bishops and Pope? And why is a woman debased to just being the glory of man?

You are unlearned, just like your illiterate prophet, on the subject of Headship, but you're quick to boldly say that in Christianity women are debased.

Let's see what the abominable Quran and Hadiths have to say about women:

- Sura 2:282
"... And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her... "
There's a hadith that removes any ambiguity about women in Sura 2:282:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The Prophet said, "Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind."

- in Sura 4:34, it says:
"... Men are managers of the affairs of women because Allah has made the one superior to the other... "

- In a Hadith that is Sahih:
"... Narrated 'Imran bin Husain: The Prophet said, "I looked at Paradise and found poor people forming the majority of its inhabitants; and I looked at Hell and saw that the majority of its inhabitants were women..."

In Islam, women are traded like cattle and exist just for your pleasure, they are mere fields that your blood gulping god have given you to plow as you see fit.
The women in your core Muslim communities have no intrinsic value other than for reproduction, they are not allowed to go to school, they can't vote, can't hold any political office, and are made to wear masquerade coverings because apparently Muslim men are animals who can't control their lust, even when it comes to little female children.

Nigerian Muslim women should be thankful to the Christians in Nigeria for every right they enjoy in this country, because their counterparts in other core Muslim countries can only dream of those rights.

Antichristian2:


They didn't say it was exactly 3rd century AD.

It was "around 3rd century"....

At least you should know the meaning of "around".

even if it's around 3rd century AD it still can't be Jesus. If it's 4th, 5th, or 6th century AD, Jesus would be around 2-3 years old at that time! Unless it's dated to be around 34th century it is impossible for that to be Jesus because Jesus started his ministry at 30yrs old which would be around 34th AD. Every other year before that he was literally unknown.

femi4:

shames his head not Christ.

According to that scripture who is the HEAD of every man?

1corinthians 11:4-10...Go and read it...you will see it there

MaxInDHouse:

Only Jehovah's Witnesses can answer this but i will wait for Church people to come and use the Bible to explain why men don't wear caps during sacred service to God.

There's no strict directions in the holy Bible that men should not wear cap whether traditional or western in the church or in christain congregation or gathering.

But there is an exception in the Bible directed by the holy Spirit at,

1st Corinthians chapter 11:4 states " Every man who prays or prophesies with something on his head shames or dishonors his head" . But that's a reverse for woman in verse 5.

To explain in layman's knowledge, any man taking a lead in worship to God in the Church for example officiating in any capacity should not wear a cap or any head covering, this does not apply to all men there. ( For example in some commercial buses, where some sellers of manner of items, who wants to start his sales pitch with prayer, usually say any man wearing a cap or head covering should remove it, women should cover their head) It's anti scriptural he don't have the authority to say so.
Men not wearing a cap in churches today has become a norm clearly not condemned in the Bible, where in some churches priests and pastors wear skull cap, base ball caps or some sort of heading covering when the are officiating, even when praying quite opposite to 1st Corinthians 11:4.
To explain with picture of Davido, he committed no sin wearing his cap, but if Davido was called upon to pray, to read a portion of the scriptures or to exult attendees in the church, he must as a matter of biblical direction remove his cap.
Please I am not a grammarian, any sentence structure not fitting is my mistake, that you should correct for your own proper understanding

I don't know what this argument of Jesus is all about when Jesus description is in the Bible itself someone that has hair of snow and feet of bronze is that one a white man don't ask me which verse

Antichristian2:
Jesus didn't wear cap because he had long hair according to those artist's pictures!

Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:7 talk say: A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.

Abeg o! But why the small cap for bishops and Pope? And why is a woman debased to just being the glory of man?

If you say a woman is debased by being the glory of man, what will you say of a religion that puts women in hijab, allows them to be beaten and even condemns majority of them to hell?
Hypocrite!!

bodmas119:
I need someone to explain to me better where is it written in the Bible for men not to be wearing caps when they are inside church.

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The only man taking the lead is mandated in the Bible to uncover his head I Cor 11:4.
A man can be in the audience with his cap on his head.He did not sin at all as long as he does not take the lead.

However traditionally men always prefer to remove their caps in churches . It is their choice . They don't sin at all.

1 CORINTHIANS 11 : 4 - 10

Because they do study bible well and without prejudice, i have one that time, if he talks you will know he know what he’s saying. Only people that are ready to study bible well before they talk can be JW.

tollyboy5:

Omo Na only JW Sabi preach Bible ages Wella.

Antichristian2:


His image does not exist. Even in films he's not represented like Jesus. So the comparison is faulty.

Was there camera Jesus' era?

That’s europeans commercializing Christianity. Wanting the black and others to believe that jesus is from their race, a way to subjugate others and demoralize them and elevate themselves. The bible that russion president puttin reveal last year show Jesus Christ as brown skin/coppery skin, coiled hair like typical jewish man.
Abeg this Christianity of a thing, na person that don chop fit they discuss am, my beans they fire it never done, once i chop i go una again.

SQLmastar:
Are you trying to imply that Christ's picture was never drawn anywhere?
How come most portraits depict him as a man with long hairs and bearded face?

OP,
Can you put on a Cap in the palace of Oba of Benin or Olu of Warri?

MaxInDHouse:

In the first century Jehovah made Jews who became born again Christians to speak in different languages this shows that what Jesus commanded them {Matthew 28:18-20} not that they must continue doing so after they are able to reach all the nations.
Today Jehovah's Witnesses have reached all the countries of the earth so there is no language you speak that you won't find a JW to preach and teach what Jesus taught.
That's the import of speaking in tongues not some random jargons all just for self edification.

1 Corinthians 14:2 states that when someone speaks in tongues, they are not speaking to people but to God, and that their spirit is praying.


Please explain this I'm only trying to learn

While the Bible doesn't explicitly forbid wearing caps in church, some interpretations of 1 Corinthians 11:4-5 suggest men should pray or prophesy with their heads uncovered, while women should have their heads covered, potentially implying a cultural context, not a universal rule.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Biblical Context:
1 Corinthians 11:4-5 states, "Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved."
Some interpret this as a cultural practice of the time, not a universal command for all Christians.
Other interpretations suggest that the verse is about the order of creation, with God as the head of Christ, Christ as the head of man, and man as the head of woman.
Cultural Significance:
In the Greco-Roman culture of the time, men prayed with their heads uncovered, while women had their heads covered.
Jewish men prayed with their heads covered, while women prayed with their heads uncovered.