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Kongaone: 10:57am On Mar 28
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route.

Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net.

His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?

@Justwise
@nlfpmod, pls help for a broader view.

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Namaster: 11:08am On Mar 28
I advocate for JAPA with FERVOR.

But in this case, it makes MORE sense for him to stay in Nigeria.

Reasons:

1. An ANTI-IMMIGRATION sentiment is sweeping through Europe. Hate and racism have become MORE common.

2. UK brings out the sleeping DEMON in Nigerian women. If he travels to UK, your friend is more likely to be divorced, kicked out and HOMELESS in 3 years.

3. Discrimination against Nigerian education and training. He wants to go through the study route which means Masters or PhD.

But the thing is that his first certificate was obtained in Nigeria. Employers will still discriminate against him based on that even if he gets a UK degree.

His experience wouldn't mean much, either.

Unless your friend is a Medical Doctor or a Software Engineer that codes in one of the FORBIDDEN languages.

4. Cost of living. The cost of living in the UK is EXPENSIVE because the standard of living in the UK is BETTER than Nigeria.

But the difference in standard of living may not be enough to justify the difference in cost.

It'll be difficult for him to replicate the standard of living he'll have in Nigeria with #1.2M per month in the UK.

He should REMAIN in Nigeria.
And save up (invest, really) to send his KIDS abroad for education.

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jocelynor: 11:09am On Mar 28
Better he stay 1.2 is ok for him n d family n make he that wife of his will grow more teeth over there expecially when he start cleaning toilet to make a living

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RepoMan007: 11:15am On Mar 28
With such level of money invest and dont play lotto with your whole capital like that.
Laird(m): 11:28am On Mar 28
If he himself is travelling to a First World Country to study a
course In high demand that he can easily get work permit sponsorship as a Foreigner and Nigerian after he finishes rhe program. He can go for it

He has to be sure
He can do the course
I advice he goes alone and brings his family after stabilizing.and getting his work permit.

If he goes, He might need to do a course (one of those hard to fill jobs in the target country that attracts work sponsorship after graduation )
The course mght not be his ion but it may be the sacrifice he has to decide to make for.migration which is becoming tighter for Africans

He hast o focus extra hard and study extra hard to achieve this

But travelling to study a not in demand course is a waste of Money because after everything spent on fees and upkeep, he might not see a corporate job and might still end up doing odd jobs)

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badaru911: 11:39am On Mar 28
Kongaone:
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route.
..He shouldn't, likely to regret it. If he ain't gat nothing, that's when he can japa. But earning a huge salary and he's likely to be at the top of the company doesn't necessitate for him to japa. Like a guy above,he should send his children there to study,not him.

Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net.

His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?


...He shouldn't cos he's likely to regret it. Like a guy above , he should send his children to study and not him.

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Kongaone: 11:39am On Mar 28
Laird:
If he himself is travelling to study an in s
Demand course that he can easily get work permit sponsorship after he finishes rhe program. He can go for it

He has to be sure
He can do the course
I advice he goes alone and brings his family after stabilizing.and getting his work permit.

If he goes, He might need to do a course (one of those hard to fill jobs in the target country that attracts work sponsorship after graduation )
The course mght not be his ion but it may be the sacrifice he has to decide to make for.migration which is becoming tighter for Africans

He hast o focus extra hard and study extra hard to achieve this

But travelling to study a not in demand course is a waste of Money because after everything spent on fees and upkeep, he might not see a corporate job and might still end up doing odd jobs)

Thank you.
He said he has ission to study Masters in research Artificial Intelligence.

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Laird(m): 11:44am On Mar 28
Kongaone:


Thank you.
He said he has ission to study Masters in research Artificial Intelligence.

Artificial intelligence is in demand overseas but he has to be sure this his course when studied in the target Country has high demand by employers there and foreigners there who studied the same course there do not look for job but easily get jobs and work permit after graduation

Research

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badaru911: 11:46am On Mar 28
Kongaone:


Thank you.
He said he has ission to study Masters in research Artificial Intelligence.
.. A.I is good but,he should forget about it unless a company is ready to employ him and that company will be the one to process his travelling for him from U.K.
Helpout12345: 2:03pm On Mar 28
Kongaone:
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route.

Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net.

His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?

@Justwise
@nlfp, pls help for a broader view.


He will be one of the stupids to leave a job paying him 1.2m per month to japa through student route.

Even if he must japa, he should use Permanent residency route of Canada, Australia or the US.

He also should know that he will start afresh in the destination country and there is more than 60pct chance that his wife will divorce him once family financials change in the destination country.

Women are always in business while men are in love .

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Kongaone: 4:24pm On Mar 28
Helpout12345:


He will be one of the stupids to leave a job paying him 1.2m per month to japa through student route.

Even if he must japa, he should use Permanent residency route of Canada, Australia or the US.

He also should know that he will start afresh in the destination country and there is more than 60pct chance that his wife will divorce him once family financials change in the destination country.

Women are always in business while men are in love .


Words.
laivwire(m): 4:48pm On Mar 28
Forget student route. He should secure a Pr pr rest easy in Naija. The suffer head for study route would set him back by at least two years.
RGRNetwork: 5:03pm On Mar 28
If you know what is hood for you, leave nigeria now. Don't let anyone discourage you. You and your wife can be working while your kids enjoy government benefits. Nigeria is getting worse everyday. What if your company sack you tomorrow? No masters, no japa and no salary. If you don't leave the country, you will live to regret it for tomorrow. They are clapping because you are earning 1.2m monthly after expenses how much will remain?

Fuel
Nepa
Foods
Children school tips etc. Before month end you will have 300k left.

If you and your wife and are working and earning 2k pounds respectively, that's over 8 million naira. One person salary can pay house rent while the other goes for savings and othe stuffs.
Those saying your wife will leave you are foolish and single people. If your marriage is built on a solid foundation, nothing will crash it.

I use to work as professional video editor and web developer while in Nigeria I was earning well until I and my family relocated to Austria through study route. The story is nothing compared to Nigeria. The benefits and standard of living will make you cry for not have been abroad all your life.

My advice is if you have the funds to move your family please do it. Politicians have billions but their families are living abroad. You thing they are foolish,?

Nwanne biko japa for the sake of your kids and future ones. Don't let people's jealousy and wickedness pin you down in Nigeria else regret will be your name.

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odinson1(m): 5:04pm On Mar 28
A bad idea to carry an entire family to start from square one in another man's land, especially when said family is making at least 1.2m monthly here in Nigeria.

And another thing to note is that the wife might probably grow wings when she begins getting a lot of options and exposure in that abroad. We've heard cases where the wife kicks the husband out of his own home that he payed for with his money.
odinson1(m): 5:08pm On Mar 28
RGRNetwork:

Those saying your wife will leave you are foolish and single people. If your marriage is built on a solid foundation, nothing will crash it.

The people whom their marriage crashed abroad, thought their marriage was built on a solid foundation. The men made the mistake of carrying their wives to a country in the Western world, and payed heavily for it. It doesn't happen everytime of course, but man must take precaution and think things through.

Use your head! wink
Kongaone: 5:55pm On Mar 28
RGRNetwork:
If you know what is hood for you, leave nigeria now. Don't let anyone discourage you. You and your wife can be working while your kids enjoy government benefits. Nigeria is getting worse everyday. What if your company sack you tomorrow? No masters, no japa and no salary. If you don't leave the country, you will live to regret it for tomorrow. They are clapping because you are earning 1.2m monthly after expenses how much will remain?

Fuel
Nepa
Foods
Children school tips etc. Before month end you will have 300k left.

If you and your wife and are working and earning 2k pounds respectively, that's over 8 million naira. One person salary can pay house rent while the other goes for savings and othe stuffs.
Those saying your wife will leave you are foolish and single people. If your marriage is built on a solid foundation, nothing will crash it.

I use to work as professional video editor and web developer while in Nigeria I was earning well until I and my family relocated to Austria through study route. The story is nothing compared to Nigeria. The benefits and standard of living will make you cry for not have been abroad all your life.

My advice is if you have the funds to move your family please do it. Politicians have billions but their families are living abroad. You thing they are foolish,?

Nwanne biko japa for the sake of your kids and future ones. Don't let people's jealousy and wickedness pin you down in Nigeria else regret will be your name.

Wow.
Well detailed and in contrast.
Kongaone: 5:56pm On Mar 28
Thanks for your opinions guys, link has been sent to my guy to read things for himself.
ednut1(m): 6:09pm On Mar 28
Study route that has no guarantee of staying after 2 years post study. Pure madness and insanity

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Zooboytwo: 8:14pm On Mar 28
Kongaone:
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route.

Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net.

His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?

@Justwise
@nlfp, pls help for a broader view.

If he can afford to watch his wife living In his comfort and him he's homeless in the street . No issues
Dadzynomolara: 9:14pm On Mar 28
Kongaone:
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route.

Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net.

His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?

@Justwise
@nlfp, pls help for a broader view.

Are you tactical seeking for advise from folks here or for your '' friend''? W
Kongaone: 9:18pm On Mar 28
Dadzynomolara:

Are you tactical seeking for advise from folks here or for your '' friend''? W

Tactical maneuver is for the Nigerian Army, not me.
Kingray10: 9:36pm On Mar 28
The money he intend to use to japa, should be kept in a usd Nigerian and shouldn't japa, rather use the other left to go vacation on his choice of country or start a biz.
If things turn south in future, his japa funds won't be at stake and his international port will be stronger if he decides to japa .

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Taal17: 9:48pm On Mar 28
This 38million is just for school fees and visas?

Does this cover ihs?
Accommodation for family for at least 6 months?
If I'm not wrong you still pay ihs yearly

If he's the student then it's the wife that would work so who will handle the kids. Uk schools don't joke with puck up and drop off. No help o, see the uk visa thread plenty ppl trying to bring grandma's for child care.

Take his landing softer he would need enough cash to buffer so he can concentrate on study because he ing is what determines their continued stay.

Many students faced visas cancelled because student didn't .

If he's going to make this type of move he needs to have a clear path to a career in this field not ifs and it's.

1yr Masters is very short, post study work visa is about 2k per head so be prepared.

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Gerrard59(m): 3:11am On Mar 29
Kongaone:
Hello travelanders.

A friend met me for advise so I decided to bring his story here for a more broader thoughts from especially the experienced amongst us.

He works in Nigeria with a salary of about 600k monthly, he was able to raise 50m for japa which will cost him and his family about 36m to UK on study route. Due to the current inflation, his office did a 100% salary increment making him to earn 1.2m monthly net. His confusion now is, should he still japa or remain in Nigeria now his salary has improved?, pls help for a broader view.
There are two things involved:

1) You are the "friend"
2) Your wife is behind the urge to japa, not you.

If you put half of that 36 million into Presco or Okumu Oil shares, you will generate so much profits within a short time. I am also certain you are above 35 and have three children.

So tell me, why do you want to japa?

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Gerrard59(m): 3:19am On Mar 29
RGRNetwork:
If you know what is hood for you, leave nigeria now. Don't let anyone discourage you. You and your wife can be working while your kids enjoy government benefits. Nigeria is getting worse everyday. What if your company sack you tomorrow? No masters, no japa and no salary. If you don't leave the country, you will live to regret it for tomorrow. They are clapping because you are earning 1.2m monthly after expenses how much will remain?

Fuel
Nepa
Foods
Children school tips etc. Before month end you will have 300k left.
How much do you think will be left when his taxes are paid, rents are paid, and he strives to maintain a similar standard of living in the abroad as he had in Nigeria?

If you and your wife and are working and earning 2k pounds respectively, that's over 8 million naira. One person salary can pay house rent while the other goes for savings and othe stuffs.
The house rents will be in £. Why mention 8 million naira? Does the UK have naira as its legal tender?

I use to work as professional video editor and web developer while in Nigeria I was earning well until I and my family relocated to Austria through study route. The story is nothing compared to Nigeria. The benefits and standard of living will make you cry for not have been abroad all your life.
I agree about the higher standard of living and security.

My advice is if you have the funds to move your family please do it. Politicians have billions but their families are living abroad. You thing they are foolish,?
Politicians are thieves, so they thrive on free money or easy means of making money. Neither you, myself, nor OP are politicians. Also, the politicians still remain in Nigeria even though their families are abroad.

Nwanne biko japa for the sake of your kids and future ones. Don't let people's jealousy and wickedness pin you down in Nigeria else regret will be your name.
What about his own enjoyment? Shouldn't he enjoy the fruit of his labour as a man? Did he come into this world to work, toil and work till him kpeme? When will he enjoy the money? Na sacrificial lamb him be?

Why do you think anyone is envious of his earnings? In fact, the wickedness is on those who encourage him to leave so he starts afresh in the abroad. If OP is to leave, he should do so as an expat aka a company in the abroad employs him in a similar role or industry.

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Gerrard59(m): 3:21am On Mar 29
BTW, if OP wants to get a foreign education, whether in the UK or elsewhere, do so on a scholarship. Look for fully funded programs to enrol in. Leverage your work experience and previous degree. Learn to use other people's money to advance your education.

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Gerrard59(m): 3:23am On Mar 29
odinson1:
A bad idea to carry an entire family to start from square one in another man's land, especially when said family is making at least 1.2m monthly here in Nigeria.

And another thing to note is that t his money.
That is the more reason to know that the wife is behind the urge to japa, not OP. Someone who is supposed to enter first and see how things be go carry woman and children begin dey waka for air. undecided

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Baronthecelebri: 5:33am On Mar 29
He should not carry his wife along

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emmaodet: 7:22am On Mar 29
Gerrard59:

How much do you think will be left when his taxes are paid, rents are paid, and he strives to maintain a similar standard of living in the abroad as he had in Nigeria?


The house rents will be in £. Why mention 8 million naira? Does the UK have naira as its legal tender?


I agree about the higher standard of living and security.


Politicians are thieves, so they thrive on free money or easy means of making money. Neither you, myself, nor OP are politicians. Also, the politicians still remain in Nigeria even though their families are abroad.


What about his own enjoyment? Shouldn't he enjoy the fruit of his labour as a man? Did he come into this world to work, toil and work till him kpeme? When will he enjoy the money? Na sacrificial lamb him be?

Why do you think anyone is envious of his earnings? In fact, the wickedness is on those who encourage him to leave so he starts afresh in the abroad. If OP is to leave, he should do so as an expat aka a company in the abroad employs him in a similar role or industry.

Gbam
odinson1(m): 7:38am On Mar 29
Gerrard59:

That is the more reason to know that the wife is behind the urge to japa, not OP. Someone who is supposed to enter first and see how things be go carry woman and children begin dey waka for air. undecided

The wife won't allow him leave her behind grin
Mindlog: 8:26am On Mar 29
N36m is about £18,000 and that is tuition fees alone!
RGRNetwork: 9:26am On Mar 29
Gerrard59:

How much do you think will be left when his taxes are paid, rents are paid, and he strives to maintain a similar standard of living in the abroad as he had in Nigeria?


The house rents will be in £. Why mention 8 million naira? Does the UK have naira as its legal tender?


I agree about the higher standard of living and security.


Politicians are thieves, so they thrive on free money or easy means of making money. Neither you, myself, nor OP are politicians. Also, the politicians still remain in Nigeria even though their families are abroad.


What about his own enjoyment? Shouldn't he enjoy the fruit of his labour as a man? Did he come into this world to work, toil and work till him kpeme? When will he enjoy the money? Na sacrificial lamb him be?

Why do you think anyone is envious of his earnings? In fact, the wickedness is on those who encourage him to leave so he starts afresh in the abroad. If OP is to leave, he should do so as an expat aka a company in the abroad employs him in a similar role or industry.

If he graduates he will have upper hand for job opportunities. I mentioned 8million because that is what 4k pounds is equivalent to if not higher. 2k pounds can pay for rent and other utilities. The remaining 2k pounds can go for savings and other expeenses

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