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jl115:
Typical, when someone has a different opinion than yours you want to start putting people in categories

p,s i put that article up as a satire, I thought after reading the article you would've gotten the joke....guess not

Bro, you're AfriForum/Solidarity....

Faithful007:


I think he’s correct to a certain extent. South Africa’s foreign policy is no policy at all. No direction. No fundamentals.

SA foreign PolISSy to PISS everybody off. You pissed Biden then pissed off Trump, pissed off Ukraine, then pissed off Russia. Pissed off the EU. Pissed off Morocco. Pissed off Nigeria, Pissed off Rwanda.

Who exactly is South Africa’s ally?

Iran?

Pis-s off you say? You haven't been paying attention, clown. 🤡

Bro thinks South Africa is Venezuela 😂

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GreenandGold:


Bro, you're AfriForum/Solidarity....

Evidence? and lets say for arguments I am, what difference does it make, Penuel the black pen is also a Afriforum member.

jl115:
Evidence? and lets say for arguments I am, what difference does it make, Penuel the black pen is also a Afriforum member.

"I'm not a ra-ppist, but if I am, what difference does it make because my neighbour is also one".

That my friend is a self incriminating statement.


....and BTW, if you're going to use Penuel to justify your own hip, then let it be known that he's a f∆cked person, he's the same guy who brags about NOT raising any of his 6 kids with 4 different baby mamas..... So yeah, you probably have some common standards 😂

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ViceirlAgain:
Namibian Navy Type 037I corvette NS Daures

Honestly didn’t even know Namibia had a navy. I doubt much happens in and around Namibian waters. Sailors must have the most laid back gig going in the world.

GreenandGold:


"I'm not a ra-ppist, but if I am, what difference does it make because my neighbour is also one".

That my friend is a self incriminating statement.


....and BTW, if you're going to use Penuel to justify your own hip, then let it be known that he's a f∆cked person, he's the same guy who brags about NOT raising any of his 6 kids with 4 different baby mamas..... So yeah, you probably have some common standards 😂

Cool story, bru. But obsessing over whether I’m an AfriForum member is nothing more than an ad hominem fallacy—attacking the person instead of addressing the argument. It’s a blatant deflection from the real issue: South Africa’s reckless foreign policy and its consequences. And just to top it off, your attempt to discredit Penuel based on what he has done in his personal life rather than focusing on his reasons and arguments was the same ret@rded tactic.

GreenandGold:



I when Nelson Mandela came out of prison, there was pressure from the US to distance himself from countries like Cuba because they were the enemies of the US, he refused...In recent years, there has been talk about South Africa having good diplomatic relations with Iran and Russia and some Republicans went on to raise it in a meeting with AfriForum (I will ignore why Republicans and Afrikaner Nationalists are discussing South African international and national matters in Congress when we have diplomatic relations with the US).

My question is; should we hate Iran because the US and Israel hate them? Should we hate Russia because Republicans before Trump did? Should we hate Ukraine because Republicans suddenly hate Zelensky? Is communicating with all parties not neutral?... Do you or Republicans even know what being neutral even means?

In the scheme of things, we all lose alongside AfriForum and Solidarity who won't be exporting food to the US and the US will also lose a neutral country at the tip of Africa.

You forgot to mention that the USA had Mandela listed as a terrorist up to 2008.

jl115:
Well he basically called Trump a racist.....so yeah, ambassadors should know their place, especially when we are trying to patch already rocky relations

Trump IS a racist, conman, raapist, adulterer, m0ron and more. Saying the truth no be crime. Man was best buddies with Epstein and on Reddit and Quora, you will easily find tales of how he conned carpenters and others who worked in building and renovating his houses/hotels out of their money. Some of these workmen died bankrupt, because Donnie the bonespur fcvker doesn't pay his bills.

GabrielYulaw:


Trump IS a racist, conman, raapist, adulterer, m0ron and more. Saying the truth no be crime. Man was best buddies with Epstein and on Reddit and Quora, you will easily find tales of how he conned carpenters and others who worked in building and renovating his houses/hotels out of their money. Some of these workmen died bankrupt, because Donnie the bonespur fcvker doesn't pay his bills.

It's funny how him and his cohort Elon goes around saying that they are advocates of free speech

Meanwhile Trump has continued to attack free speech through the tenure

GabrielYulaw:


Trump IS a racist, conman, raapist, adulterer, m0ron and more. Saying the truth no be crime. Man was best buddies with Epstein and on Reddit and Quora, you will easily find tales of how he conned carpenters and others who worked in building and renovating his houses/hotels out of their money. Some of these workmen died bankrupt, because Donnie the bonespur fcvker doesn't pay his bills.

explain how he is those things, give evidence and examples

Wasn't he one of the very few elite that hasn't been to Epstein's island?

You sources are reddit and quora??

slimthugchimee2:


It's funny how him and his cohort Elon goes around saying that they are advocates of free speech

Meanwhile Trump has continued to attack free speech through the tenure

Examples?

jl115:


Cool story, bru. But obsessing over whether I’m an AfriForum member is nothing more than an ad hominem fallacy—attacking the person instead of addressing the argument. It’s a blatant deflection from the real issue: South Africa’s reckless foreign policy and its consequences. And just to top it off, your attempt to discredit Penuel based on what he has done in his personal life rather than focusing on his reasons and arguments was the same ret@rded tactic.

I'm not the one on the internet justifying the actions of those polarising Right Wingers called the AfriForum, who are working behind the scenes with international Right Wingers and the Trump istration to undermine a democratically elected South African government.... I will clearly say, we DO have a f#ck3d up local security policy because if we didn't, your boys should be hang!ng for treason.

GreenandGold:


I'm not the one on the internet justifying the actions of those polarising Right Wingers called the AfriForum, who are working behind the scenes with international Right Wingers and the Trump istration to undermine a democratically elected South African government.... I will clearly say, we DO have a f#ck3d up local security policy because if we didn't, your boys should be hang!ng for treason.

At no point did I ‘justify’ AfriForum’s actions—I simply pointed out that their influence is irrelevant to the broader issue of South Africa’s reckless foreign policy. But instead of addressing that, you’ve resorted to emotional outbursts, strawman arguments, and logical fallacy.

Screaming ‘right-wing’ like it’s some magical counterpoint doesn’t change the reality: South Africa’s foreign policy blunders are self-inflicted. And if your best ‘solution’ is fantasizing about political executions, then maybe the real threat to democracy isn’t AfriForum, but the authoritarian mindset you and people like you are pushing.

jl115:
explain how he is those things, give evidence and examples

Wasn't he one of the very few elite that hasn't been to Epstein's island?

You sources are reddit and quora??

Lol. I am not gonna hold your hand and lead you to facts about a man who has repeatedly said he wants to fugg his own daughter.

GabrielYulaw:


Lol. I am not gonna hold your hand and lead you to facts about a man who has repeatedly said he wants to fugg his own daughter.

Just it you made claims you couldn't back up hence why you are deviating, that simple

slimthugchimee2:


It's funny how him and his cohort Elon goes around saying that they are advocates of free speech

Meanwhile Trump has continued to attack free speech through the tenure

He's deporting people who publicly expresses opinions he doesn't like and sending them to prisons in third world countries. One of them was sent to a hardcore prison in El Salvador for having a Real Madrid tattoo.
As for Elon, lol. A frigging nazzi who pays A-class gamers to play games on his behalf and pose as him. He's been busy wrecking Twitter and artificially inseminating women with spperm carefully chosen to give him male offspring. The whole thing na like Dragon Factory chapter.

By the way, any of you seeing what Al Shabbab is doing in Somalia? They seem resurgent all of a sudden and have been mounting ceaseless offensives. Who can explain it?

jl115:
Just it you made claims you couldn't back up hence why you are deviating, that simple

Lol. It's 2025. Do your own research. It's not that hard.

jl115:
Well he basically called Trump a racist.....so yeah, ambassadors should know their place, especially when we are trying to patch already rocky relations

He was just stating the truth. Aerica has the right to be upset about it but he did not lie.

GabrielYulaw:


Lol. It's 2025. Do your own research. It's not that hard.

I'm not the one making the claims you are, I asked you for evidence and you can't get it, as simple as that! if can't back your argument with facts then you don't have an argument, you are merely spewing nonsense.

GreenandGold:



Pis-s off you say? You haven't been paying attention, clown. 🤡

yeah People don't realize south Africa is very neutral country that wants to be friends with every one and will deal with every on.

It why we have so many trade deals with different countries

jl115:
I'm not the one making the claims you are, I asked you for evidence and you can't get it, as simple as that! if can't back your argument with facts then you don't have an argument, you are merely spewing nonsense.

Okay sir.

How you people do this though is something I can never comprehend. I mean loving people who have shown time after time that they hate you and consider you and your kind inferior in all parameters. Like how do you shove that aside and love these kinds of people and eagerly defend them online? Is it ccrack?

GabrielYulaw:


Okay sir.

Glad you agree

jl115:
Glad you agree

I did not agree to anything. I was merely putting an end to a very unproductive discourse.

andrewza:


yeah People don't realize south Africa is very neutral country that wants to be friends with every one and will deal with every on.

It why we have so many trade deals with different countries

We are confused, that's our problem, Ideologically we want to lean towards the East(Socialism, Marxism) however Economically we want to lean West( Free Market)... Now we are starting to see the cracks in our approach

GabrielYulaw:


I did not agree to anything. I was merely putting an end to a very unproductive discourse.

It's only unproductive because you fail to bring facts and logic

GabrielYulaw:


Okay sir.

How you people do this though is something I can never comprehend. I mean loving people who have shown time after time that they hate you and consider you and your kind inferior in all parameters. Like how do you shove that aside and love these kinds of people and eagerly defend them online? Is it ccrack?

WTF are you talking about?

andrewza:



He was just stating the truth. Aerica has the right to be upset about it but he did not lie.

What about Trump is rac1st? let's start there

jl115:
We are confused, that's our problem, Ideologically we want to lean towards the East(Socialism, Marxism) however Economically we want to lean West( Free Market)... Now we are starting to see the cracks in our approach

Not rally. We want to have a northern European system but we don't have the cash flow they have. The ANC and even the SA for that matter are not Marxist. That is only the EFF and MK and both are minority parties.

the ANC is run by business people and is just your typical centre left party where the DA is a center right party. Both parties actually want south Africa to be closer to the Socialist European economy of the EU than the free market system f the USA. It why the ANC formed the GNU with the DA vs the EFF and MK.