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jl115:
Well he basically called Trump a racist.....so yeah, ambassadors should know their place, especially when we are trying to patch already rocky relations

Wat re y'all patching.
That sound spineless
SA has not done anything wrong in my book.

jl115:
Well he basically called Trump a racist.....so yeah, ambassadors should know their place, especially when we are trying to patch already rocky relations

In the list of countless things Trump has been saying about South Africa with no evidence?... Ok. I wonder if Israel and AfriForum has anything to do with it.

Anyways, the US has the right to keep and expell any individual in their country, we too have the right.... and that US Consulate in Sandton is prime location, maybe we should look into it. 😎

QuietMynd:

Wat re y'all patching.
That sound spineless
SA has not done anything wrong in my book.

There's heavy lobbying by Israel and by Boer Nationalists in Washington DC.... The Trump istration will take anyone with enough cash. I mean, if I gave him $100m, and then convince him that the African Union should be dismantled, he'll go all out to do that, no question asked.

Of course, Cyril Ramaphosa is a calm man, he always tries to find a diplomatic solution even where it won't work,Trump and his high school boys think diplomacy is for the weak, they won't even pick up the diplomatic lines to communicate (I'm not even making it up).

🇸🇩🇸🇸🇨🇩 With the wars in Sudan, South Sudan and Congo, it is now easy to find who is allied with who in the whole region, here is a map

A regional alliance between Rwanda (+M23), Uganda, Kenya, South Sudan and RSF is more and more visible.

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GreenandGold:


In the list of countless things Trump has been saying about South Africa with no evidence?... Ok. I wonder if Israel and AfriForum has anything to do with it.

Anyways, the US has the right to keep and expell any individual in their country, we too have the right.... and that US Consulate in Sandton is prime location, maybe we should look into it. 😎

Afriforum/Solidarity are insignificant and the whole land expropriation thing is just a smoke screen, simply put we've been going against US interests for a while now instead of knowing our place and staying neutral...now it has come back to bit us.

As for the US consultate, well lets just say we will be playing a game we 100% will lose, and lose big time

QuietMynd:

Wat re y'all patching.
That sound spineless
SA has not done anything wrong in my book.

It's not about right or wrong, it's about politics, and what's best for SA, what's not best for SA and it's people is clearly going against the interest of the most powerful country in the world and our second biggest trading partner, the US doesn't need SA, SA needs the US...

And id rather be spineless living in a semi decent country vs being a brave Zimbabwe

jl115:
Afriforum/Solidarity are insignificant and the whole land expropriation thing is just a smoke screen, simply put we've been going against US interests for a while now instead of knowing our place and staying neutral...now it has come back to bit us.

As for the US consultate, well lets just say we will be playing a game we 100% will lose, and lose big time

I when Nelson Mandela came out of prison, there was pressure from the US to distance himself from countries like Cuba because they were the enemies of the US, he refused...In recent years, there has been talk about South Africa having good diplomatic relations with Iran and Russia and some Republicans went on to raise it in a meeting with AfriForum (I will ignore why Republicans and Afrikaner Nationalists are discussing South African international and national matters in Congress when we have diplomatic relations with the US).

My question is; should we hate Iran because the US and Israel hate them? Should we hate Russia because Republicans before Trump did? Should we hate Ukraine because Republicans suddenly hate Zelensky? Is communicating with all parties not neutral?... Do you or Republicans even know what being neutral even means?

In the scheme of things, we all lose alongside AfriForum and Solidarity who won't be exporting food to the US and the US will also lose a neutral country at the tip of Africa.

GreenandGold:



I when Nelson Mandela came out of prison, there was pressure from the US to distance himself from countries like Cuba because they were the enemies of the US, he refused...In recent years, there has been talk about South Africa having good diplomatic relations with Iran and Russia and some Republicans went on to raise it in a meeting with AfriForum (I will ignore why Republicans and Afrikaner Nationalists are discussing South African international and national matters in Congress when we have diplomatic relations with the US).

My question is; should we hate Iran because the US and Israel hate them? Should we hate Russia because Republicans before Trump did? Should we hate Ukraine because Republicans suddenly hate Zelensky? Is communicating with all parties not neutral?... Do you or Republicans even know what being neutral even means?

In the scheme of things, we all lose alongside AfriForum and Solidarity who won't be exporting food to the US and the US will also lose a neutral country at the tip of Africa.

Difference is Nelson Mandela didn't make a case against Israel when even back then Israel was doing the same as today(He didn't even talk about cutting ties with Israel like we are now), also nothing wrong with having relations with Iran, Russia ect ect that hass never been a problem, the problem is actually being proactively against US interests like the ICJ case. Also I just find it odd that we are now close with Zelensky when just a few months ago we were in the Putin camp, it's like we actively try to take the opposite side of the US even when it doesn't make sense.

We are an insignificant(globally) country and a country that has severely weakened our own economy and military where we can't even regionally project power anymore never mind globally....yet we are trying to voice our opinion to superpowers when we should be quite and focused on building ourselves up(after breaking ourselves) to a respectable place(economically, Military and geopolitically)

As for Afriforum and solidarity...even they rejected Trumps asylum offer

jl115:
Difference is Nelson Mandela didn't make a case against Israel when even back then Israel was doing the same as today(He didn't even talk about cutting ties with Israel like we are now), also nothing wrong with having relations with Iran, Russia ect ect that hass never been a problem, the problem is actually being proactively against US interests like the ICJ case. Also I just find it odd that we are now close with Zelensky when just a few months ago we were in the Putin camp, it's like we actively try to take the opposite side of the US even when it doesn't make sense.

We are an insignificant(globally) country and a country that has severely weakened our own economy and military where we can't even regionally project power anymore never mind globally....yet we are trying to voice our opinion to superpowers when we should be quite and focused on building ourselves up(after breaking ourselves) to a respectable place(economically, Military and geopolitically)

As for Afriforum and solidarity...even they rejected Trumps asylum offer

Bro, are you kidding me? Nelson Mandela spoke against the occupation of Palestine, it's on record.

Taking Israel to the ICC is a morally right thing to do, no one in his right mind should ignore a genocide taking place. Fortunately some of us in South Africa have not been bought off by Jewish money, our conscious is functional.
Diplomatic ties with Israel are not of any benefit to South Africa, Isreal is working with Paul Kagame to undermine South Africa in the DRC, not even something worth defending there.

So, if we South Africans should be "focused in building ourselves", then why is AfriForum and Solidarity working behind closed doors with a foreign power on South Africa's national affairs?

GreenandGold:


There's heavy lobbying by Israel and by Boer Nationalists in Washington DC.... The Trump istration will take anyone with enough cash. I mean, if I gave him $100m, and then convince him that the African Union should be dismantled, he'll go all out to do that, no question asked.

Of course, Cyril Ramaphosa is a calm man, he always tries to find a diplomatic solution even where it won't work,Trump and his high school boys think diplomacy is for the weak, they won't even pick up the diplomatic lines to communicate (I'm not even making it up).

U re right

jl115:
It's not about right or wrong, it's about politics, and what's best for SA, what's not best for SA and it's people is clearly going against the interest of the most powerful country in the world and our second biggest trading partner, the US doesn't need SA, SA needs the US...

And id rather be spineless living in a semi decent country vs being a brave Zimbabwe

ok

Found this on the internet today.

Nigerian military you guys really need to leave these 3rd world antics for good. Cos WTF is this?

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1901552566078443852?s=46

GreenandGold:


Bro, are you kidding me? Nelson Mandela spoke against the occupation of Palestine, it's on record.

Taking Israel to the ICC is a morally right thing to do, no one in his right mind should ignore a genocide taking place. Fortunately some of us in South Africa have not been bought off by Jewish money, our conscious is functional.
Diplomatic ties with Israel are not of any benefit to South Africa, Isreal is working with Paul Kagame to undermine South Africa in the DRC, not even something worth defending there.

So, if we South Africans should be "focused in building ourselves", then why is AfriForum and Solidarity working behind closed doors with a foreign power on South Africa's national affairs?

You are completely misunderstanding what I said, I know he condemned Israel, what I said was he never took Israel to the ICJ or talked about cutting diplomatic ties like we are doing now.

Secondly is it still morally the right thing to do if it means worth risking trade agreements or even sanctions? Yes maybe for some of us like you and me, we can ride the economic storm,however the majority of South African don't have that luxury. We should know our status and keep in line, playing geopolitical games with superpowers is ret@rded, trying to be the moral voice on a conflict halfway across the globe when in our own country corruption is rampant, violent crime is out of control and our economy is stagnant seems illogical to me. We should keep quiet and stay out of the way and let countries that can do something let them do their thing, we aint one of them.

ps I'm as much against Jewish deep state influence as anybody, literally the reason why I don't vote for the Jewish sponsored DA. However I''m also a logical person and understand how things work and what we are and aren't capable of.

Lastly Afriforum/solidarity went to the US to lobby for to stop farm murders and EWC, which is to protect the rights of it's which they are well entitled to do, the US simply used that as a scapegoat, Afriforum / Solidarty have 0 influence and even without them the US would've punished SA regardless

Faithful007:
Found this on the internet today.

Nigerian military you guys really need to leave these 3rd world antics for good. Cos WTF is this?

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1901552566078443852?s=46

It is shameful. Old habits die hard.

Faithful007:
Found this on the internet today.

Nigerian military you guys really need to leave these 3rd world antics for good. Cos WTF is this?

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1901552566078443852?s=46

From experience; myself and most people who travel; actually dislike having to go to Nigeria. Before attacking me please ask around

jl115:
Afriforum/Solidarity are insignificant and the whole land expropriation thing is just a smoke screen, simply put we've been going against US interests for a while now instead of knowing our place and staying neutral...now it has come back to bit us.

As for the US consultate, well lets just say we will be playing a game we 100% will lose, and lose big time

I get your point. But please be proud of your governmen. They have been able to do what most people cannot. I am really proud of you.

MiddleDimension:


I get your point. But please be proud of your governmen. They have been able to do what most people cannot. I am really proud of you.

Proud of what? corruption? Crime? stagnant economy? Poverty? unemployment? The ANC was good till 2009, then it all went to sh1t

GreenandGold:


Bro, are you kidding me? Nelson Mandela spoke against the occupation of Palestine, it's on record.

Taking Israel to the ICC is a morally right thing to do, no one in his right mind should ignore a genocide taking place. Fortunately some of us in South Africa have not been bought off by Jewish money, our conscious is functional.
Diplomatic ties with Israel are not of any benefit to South Africa, Isreal is working with Paul Kagame to undermine South Africa in the DRC, not even something worth defending there.

So, if we South Africans should be "focused in building ourselves", then why is AfriForum and Solidarity working behind closed doors with a foreign power on South Africa's national affairs?

Guess Afriforum have been lobbying in Russia to


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-17-has-russia-really-turned-on-south-africa-over-the-land-issue/

Odunayaw:
It is shameful. Old habits die hard.

💯 hopeful things change.

jl115:
Guess Afriforum have been lobbying in Russia to


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-17-has-russia-really-turned-on-south-africa-over-the-land-issue/

You're smarter than that bro.... I listened to the whole interview/presentation. The man states that the West will accuse you of human rights when they want to do their dirty business, he goes on to say South Africa is now accused of human rights because of it's land policies.

Stop spreading misinformation with your AfriForum/Solidarity buddies.

Tinfoil:


From experience; myself and most people who travel; actually dislike having to go to Nigeria. Before attacking me please ask around

You have traveled to where? Oh gerrouta here

Faithful007:
Found this on the internet today.

Nigerian military you guys really need to leave these 3rd world antics for good. Cos WTF is this?

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1901552566078443852?s=46

The Nigerian public system needs a thorough overhauling. It’s no surprise why some say we deserve our leaders. What a shame.

Fidha254:
https://youtube.com/shorts/s7XgK3fwiw8?si=Wz_cYdRsQp7wWUiC

THE 100% FACT !

Exnavyboy62:


The Nigerian public system needs a thorough overhauling. It’s no surprise why some say we deserve our leaders. What a shame.

very shameful and disgracing, it can only happen in Nigeria,
Nigerian military through to the top think they're untouchable.

The US will be ending AGOA. Hopefully all the African countries that were naive enough to think there would be some kind of deal with the US have learnt their lesson.

There is more progress to be made by dealing with Russia and china than the US

bidexiii:



THE 100% FACT !

Brought to you by the medicine is created by the anti-Christ, science is fake, chem trails, and weather manipulating space lasers are attacking us people.😂😂😂

GreenandGold:


You're smarter than that bro.... I listened to the whole interview/presentation. The man states that the West will accuse you of human rights when they want to do their dirty business, he goes on to say South Africa is now accused of human rights because of it's land policies.

Stop spreading misinformation with your AfriForum/Solidarity buddies.

I think he’s correct to a certain extent. South Africa’s foreign policy is no policy at all. No direction. No fundamentals.

SA foreign PolISSy to PISS everybody off. You pissed Biden then pissed off Trump, pissed off Ukraine, then pissed off Russia. Pissed off the EU. Pissed off Morocco. Pissed off Nigeria, Pissed off Rwanda.

Who exactly is South Africa’s ally?

Iran?

Faithful007:


I think he’s correct to a certain extent. South Africa’s foreign policy is no policy at all. No direction. No fundamentals.

SA foreign PolISSy to PISS everybody off. You pissed Biden then pissed off Trump, pissed off Ukraine, then pissed off Russia. Pissed off the EU. Pissed off Morocco. Pissed off Nigeria, Pissed off Rwanda.

Who exactly is South Africa’s ally?

Iran?

They did not piss us off. Also, they did not piss Rwanda and Morocco. It is about time Kagame is made to understand he cannot keep behaving the way he does. We are sympathetic to Rwandan people for their recent history. But Kagame should be taught a lesson. And until that is done, he will keep behaving like a spoilt child!

MiddleDimension:


They did not piss us off. Also, they did not piss Rwanda and Morocco. It is about time Kagame is made to understand he cannot keep behaving the way he does. We are sympathetic to Rwandan people for their recent history. But Kagame should be taught a lesson. And until that is done, he will keep behaving like a spoilt child!

I’m not sure you understand what piss is. Cause you’re saying piss didn’t happen, then litigating the PISS at the same time. Did I mention that SA is wrong? Or right? Cause PISS is silent on that (S).

GreenandGold:


You're smarter than that bro.... I listened to the whole interview/presentation. The man states that the West will accuse you of human rights when they want to do their dirty business, he goes on to say South Africa is now accused of human rights because of it's land policies.

Stop spreading misinformation with your AfriForum/Solidarity buddies.

Typical, when someone has a different opinion than yours you want to start putting people in categories

p,s i put that article up as a satire, I thought after reading the article you would've gotten the joke....guess not

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