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phemray:


HND and BSC has different designs of purpose but same years of study.

The requirements are same but the difference is always the technical or technological final output.

Entrance requirements are both credits including maths and English, jamb is required for both and years are both five with BSC of 6 months IT while HND had 12 months IT compulsory in both. Even some BSC are just 4 years while some are 8 years.

I think the complains with HND is pegging them at level 14 max in the ministry. Which seems not to be fair. It's not applicable in private companies, infact private preferred HND guys to any level because of Thier practical and results input.

your last paragraph no follow they recruit HND because they don't drag renumerations. They are okay with anything given

Haydens:
It'll never hold water. After uniben don stress me finish make I come dey the same level with HND holder ?

Shoes have size.

as in eh 😂😂😂

sprints1:
your last paragraph no follow they recruit HND because they don't drag renumerations. They are okay with anything given

Renumeration depends on your experience and not BSC/HND, mostly it's what the quality of experience is. But in government establishment renumeration is fixed wether experience or not. Nothing to drag about remuneration if you have nothing to offer, but most companies have standards.

Why should he write to ICAN for information about degree versus HND holders' performances.
You should be the one to release statistics to that effect as a premise for your argument.
Asking him to do that suggests you hold no fact for your believe that HND holders out perform the degree holders in ICAN exam. I don't want to believe you are relying on "earsay" or what some call "beer parlour gossips".

Again, you point fail to address the point raised by the commenter. Kindly read his comment again and pay attention to where he said:

"I am not discriminating against anybody. I understand that a HND holder might be more intelligent and more skilled than a BSc. holder. But HND and BSc. cannot be the same as long as they are not obtained from the same institution. The point is that whoever wants BSc. should go to a university and whoever wants HND should go to a polytechnic. Why will someone who settled for police job fight to be seen and addressed as a soldier after ing the police?"

I the point he raised there bacause the objectives of university and polytechnic education are never the same. While the university education system is research oriented, the core objective of polytechnic education is to provide technical and practical-oriented training to meet the manpower requirements for the industrial, agriculture, commercial and economic development of Nigeria (see sources below). This, perhaps, explains while holders of Uni degrees are employed by the govt as and senior officers and HND holders as technical and higher technical officers. So the point raised by the commenter is if two substances have different objectives, designs, and processes, why do you call them the same.

The NBTE that regulate polytechnic education was established by Act No 9 of 11 July 1977 with the aim of "providing standardised minimum guide curricula for Technical and Vocational Education and Training" (see source below). The establishment and objective was timely, coinciding with the oil windfalls at the time. So if differences exists in their enabling acts, objectives, designs, and processes, to agitate for parity of both qualifications is to be unreasonable. In other words, if their objectives are different, complying with the law is no discrimination.

The dichotomy arose from the Nigerian labor culture that has evolved over time with greed and lack of dignity of labour. The mindset of average Nigeria worker is like:
Mazda cars are bad, my neighbour rides toyota so all of us must own Toyota rides.
Nursing career is inferior, my neighbour is a doctor so I must re-enrol to also qualify as a doctor.
The peak for HND holders in the civil service is level 15, it is level 17 for b.sc holders so HND must be scrapped so that everyone in the civil service can be bachelor degree holders.

simpleseyi:


Sociology and Philosophy graduate, go and sit down somewhere. Write to ICAN and ask them for performance of HND versus BSc holders in the national exam, shame go catch you for BSc holders. Make we no mention Engineering and Tech.

Then change the UTME cut off for both parties and the number of years for courses must be the same.

It takes 5yrs to study any course in HND and graduate. Anyone who es through the HND program spent a minimum of 5yrs regardless of the course of study which is unlike the University where some courses are less than 5yrs. The discrimination is very unnecessary

They both spent same years to study Engineering and one is discriminated after years of studying. One is trained in technology while the other is trained in research and science

The combination of both graduates are needed in a modern day technology driven economy. As a student of Masters In Power Engineering in the US, I used my HND. Over there, the courses you did in your undergraduate level, the years and experiences in your field of practice is what counts. This is why the US structure has two master systems, master in technology and master in science. Master in technology is for the industry while master in science is for research and development. Very straight forward

Both the university and the Polytechnic offers same engineering courses and read same textbooks, spent same number of years. I wouldn't know what other discipline

Se bi them don this bill teytey ni?

omolola12345:
Then change the UTME cut off for both parties and the number of years for courses must be the same.

Both years are even the same if not more for the HND holder. Perhaps, you're referring to an ND holder. Get the understanding. It takes you a minimum of 4yrs to be in HND 1 regardless of the course you're studying in the Polytechnic. I'll give you a breakdown, 2yrs for your ND, 1yr compulsory IT (This is only when you've successfully ed your ND without CO), 2yrs for HND. Altogether, you have a minimum of 5yrs in obtaining HND Certificate

babakb:
Don't be deceived by this trash 🗑️🗑️🗑️ you can't use HND outside Nigeria for Masters.

Guys BSc has never been so important in the history of Nigeria like these times, Your BSc is your ticket to escape this shithole called Nigeria.

Get your BSc, keep it and hustle for money then dust your BSc certificate, and Japa through Masters route

I'm a HND holder but I'm running a degree program with National Open University, I'll finish my program end of this year.

I'll never encourage anyone to go for anything Polytechnic 👎

Currently studying Master In Power Engineering in the US from a prestigious university of technology amongst first five in the US.

Studying masters, like I explained previously depends on the courses you did, as in my case, electrical engineering, the years, your GP in key courses and most importantly, your Work Experience. Let me even burst your head, you study almost same courses for Electrical Engineering in both University and Polytechnic and those schools in US are only interested in your Transcripts and most especially your work experience for graduate programs and not the name of the certificates as in the case of Nigeria

Yeah, you're right. Schools in the US are only interested in your transcripts and not the certificate. The guy is ignorant.
I have both HND and B.Eng but used only the OND+HND for my PhD program.

udeh3:


Currently studying Master In Power Engineering in the US from a prestigious university of technology amongst first five in the US.

Studying masters, like I explained previously depends on the courses you did, as in my case, electrical engineering, the years, your GP in key courses and most importantly, your Work Experience. Let me even burst your head, your study almost same courses for Electrical Engineering in both University a d Polytechnic and those schools in US are only interested in your Transcripts and not the name of the certificates

Spotted

Raph82:
Correct the bolded, they've made the statement go off-balance.

thank you

??That'll be a welcome development.

papiwyte:
Polytechnics must be granted BSc