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IRIENBOY:
Please what your advice

I think you should @drentd he has a mentorship arbitrage betting thread. As a starter you can start with breaking-bet, because their subscription is cheap and s lots of Nigerian bookmakers.

Sapeleboy911:
Final Episode
Finally it worked.

Fast forward to October 2023, I dumbed arbitrage betting and settled for value betting; even though value betting was not risk-free, I find it more profitable.

With arbing you are paying the vig price which means you are giving up a part of your profits for a non existing guaranteed profit. From Oct - Dec 2023, I made a total profit of $3720. I was very much ready to quit my job.

In January 2024 I submitted my resignation letter to focus on value betting full time. I was scared of what the future holds and happy for the time being. From Jan 2024 - May 2024 my profit was over $9K. This was way over my 6 years' salary combined. Finally, everything is working again. At the end of the EPL season, around June/July, I took 2 months break. And resumed in September. By December my total profit was over $38K.

January this year things took a drastic turn. All the profits quoted above were made using only bet365. I used only bet365 because the scanner I was using had lots of bets on bet365.

I was placing hundreds of value bets daily. So far I have placed over 20k bets and turned over $700k. And I started all these with just around $640 bankroll.

This year, I managed to make just $800 and lost over 16 bet365 s. Before now my minimum profit with 16 bet365 s should be around $6k. I have made $5k in profits on a single before. Then you could deposit $3k on an without issue, unlike now. Unfortunately, bet365 became brutal and harsh toward smart bettors most especially Nigerians.

They close my s even when I'm yet to place a bet. I even heard from some quarters that they are about to exit the Nigeria space, but I'm not sure. Some are even complaining that now you need an authenticator to place bets on bet365. Looking from where I'm coming from I feel so happy and fulfilled. Finally, my years of struggles were not in vain.

I am now more experienced and have sound knowledge of how sports betting works. Making money from sports betting is no longer the main issue for me now. Finding reliable bookies s like bet365, williamhill, BetVictor, Unibet, etc. is the main struggle now.

Although not giving up yet on bet365. Bet365 and 1xbet remain the most profitable bookies for smart bettors. They are very easy to beat. And The only difference between the 2 is one is reliable and responsible, the other (1xbet) is a crook and very dubious.


Forget all these tipsters littered all over the sports sections and elsewhere; if you are not matched betting, value betting, or using arbitrage, you can't make reasonable profits in the long run. You will only end up losing your hard earned money. Till this very moment, there is somebody I know who has been making over $4k+ monthly for over 5 years now. He does that using value betting.

Will I recommend sports betting to anybody? The answer is NO. I said no because the risk of deviating from your strategy and gambling carelessly is very high. You must be and always remain disciplined and trust the process. I have lost over $1k in just 2 days while value betting. But at the end of the month, my profit was over $3k.

Thank you all for reading my long Epistles; like I said earlier, no DMs, please. If you have any questions you are very free to ask. I'm still a learner when it comes to sports betting. Some professionals are making money from the most difficult sets of sharp bookies like Pinnacle and Exchanges.

Thanks for sharing your experience.Pls do you think one can use Nigerian Bookies for Value betting?And is there any scanner that can give me value betting involving Nigerian Bookies?

SeniorRef:

Thanks for sharing your experience.Pls do you think one can use Nigerian Bookies for Value betting?And is there any scanner that can give me value betting involving Nigerian Bookies?

From my experience sportybet, betkings, merrybet have some nice value bets and arbing opportunities. These bookies are considered safe and less restrictive.

But the main Nigerian bookies are 1xbet (over 10 Nigeria clones), Melbet, betwinner, 22bet, msport, final bet, and a host of others. The issue with these sets of 1xbet like bookies, is they can be very dubious and problematic. Their KYC process is very demanding and time consuming, withdrawing your funds can be hectic with these bookies. Aside from that, these bookies have lots and lots of opportunities, even more than bet365.

As for the scanner, I recommend breaking-bet for a start. Although their odds can sometimes be wrong and delayed. But their subscription is very cheap. No need paying almost #200k monthly for more heavy weight scanners like trademate sports, rebel betting, betburger, pinnacle odds dropper or oddpedia, when your stakes ain't above $15 - $20.

Sapeleboy911:


From my experience sportybet, betkings, merrybet have some nice value bets and arbing opportunities. These bookies are considered safe and less restrictive.

But the main Nigerian bookies are 1xbet (over 10 Nigeria clones), Melbet, betwinner, 22bet, msport, final bet, and a host of others. The issue with these sets of 1xbet like bookies, is they can be very dubious and problematic. Their KYC process is very demanding and time consuming, withdrawing your funds can be hectic with these bookies. Aside from that, these bookies have lots and lots of opportunities, even more than bet365.

As for the scanner, I recommend breaking-bet for a start. Although their odds can sometimes be wrong and delayed. But their subscription is very cheap. No need paying almost #200k monthly for more heavy weight scanners like trademate sports, rebel betting, betburger, pinnacle odds dropper or oddpedia, when your stakes ain't above $15 - $20.

Thanks Bro

desmondadonis:
2yrs. Been using AstroPay for payment. I also have a verified Skrill incase you need it

Okay, here are 2 options.

1) Payments of #20k for the . And you gain nothing or lose nothing if the makes a profit or not

2)Fixed 10% profit of any profits the makes. Scanner subscription and funding are all my responsibility.

Whichever option you choose. 100% access to the email and phone numbers linked to the is a must.

Sapeleboy911:


From my experience sportybet, betkings, merrybet have some nice value bets and arbing opportunities. These bookies are considered safe and less restrictive.

But the main Nigerian bookies are 1xbet (over 10 Nigeria clones), Melbet, betwinner, 22bet, msport, final bet, and a host of others. The issue with these sets of 1xbet like bookies, is they can be very dubious and problematic. Their KYC process is very demanding and time consuming, withdrawing your funds can be hectic with these bookies. Aside from that, these bookies have lots and lots of opportunities, even more than bet365.

As for the scanner, I recommend breaking-bet for a start. Although their odds can sometimes be wrong and delayed. But their subscription is very cheap. No need paying almost #200k monthly for more heavy weight scanners like trademate sports, rebel betting, betburger, pinnacle odds dropper or oddpedia, when your stakes ain't above $15 - $20.

I did venture into value betting some time ago.Started with 1xbet before I know it,odds on my page was adjusted.i tried about 2 of their clones and my odds were adjusted immediately on opening.i tried some foreign crypto bookies but their odds changes quite quickly I couldn't stake a lot of matches.i tried Sportybet,I was getting some few matches,few days time my stakes were limited to an unreasonable amount.i tried one other Nigeria bookie too.i have forgotten the names,but I wasn't getting enough matches.i tried football.com too,stake was also limited.I got tired of the running from pillar to post and the possibility of losing my funds to some unscrupulous bookies.That's what discourage me from value betting.

Kayonline007:
I did venture into value betting some time ago.Started with 1xbet before I know it,odds on my page was adjusted.i tried about 2 of their clones and my odds were adjusted immediately on opening.i tried some foreign crypto bookies but their odds changes quite quickly I could stake a lot of matches.i tried Sportybet,I was getting some few matches,few days time my stakes were limited to an unreasonable amount.i tried one other Nigeria bookie too.i have forgotten the names,but I wasn't getting enough matches.i tried football.com too,stake was also limited.I got tired of the running from pillar to post and the possibility of losing my funds to some unscrupulous bookies.That's what discourage me from value betting.

I had same experience with these bookies. Once your odds are reduced on 1xbet, Melbet, 22bet, and all those 1xbet look alike will reduce your odds too, because they all share s between themselves. That is why I used only bet365 who suddenly became brutal.

Sapeleboy911:

I had same experience with these bookies. Once your odds are reduced on 1xbet, Melbet, 22bet, and all those 1xbet look alike will reduce your odds too, because they all share s between themselves. That is why I used only bet365 who suddenly became brutal.

boss I have started the journey of 1.05 odd with 10k on football dot com and I'm currently on the 9th day.

Hope this people can pay coz I'm leaving it till October which is over 50million?

tobore4u:
boss I have started the journey of 1.05 odd with 10k on football dot com and I'm currently on the 9th day.

Hope this people can pay coz I'm leaving it till October which is over 50million?

If you are not arbing or value betting, they will pay because, to them, you are just a normal gambler. But make sure you have your identification documents ready, and check out their max payout. Also, prepare yourself for the adverse effects of losing a rollover; it can be mentally draining; I wish you good luck.

Sapeleboy911:

If you are not arbing or value betting, they will pay because, to them, you are just a normal gambler. But make sure you have your identification documents ready, and check out their max payout. Also, prepare yourself for the adverse effects of losing a rollover; it can be mentally draining; I wish you good luck.

Thanks but which of the document are u talking about?... Their maximum winning is 100M

tobore4u:
Thanks but which of the document are u talking about?... Their maximum winning is 100M

Any of these.
National ID card, driver's license, international port, in some cases NIN slip. And in extreme cases stamped and dated statements

Sapeleboy911:

Any of these.
National ID card, driver's license, international port, in some cases NIN slip. And in extreme cases stamped and dated statements

Alright..

I wanted to do it using sportybet but I have like 5 s with them.

tobore4u:
Alright..

I wanted to do it using sportybet but I have like 5 s with them.

You have 5 s with them with same identity? If yes it is against their T&C. Thread with caution.

Sapeleboy911:

You have 5 s with them with same identity? If yes it is against their T&C. Thread with caution.

yeah same identity.

The thing is after each loss I'd block my but after 1week I open another .

I have resolved to quit betting for good hence I'm sticking to this plan.

Honestly speaking after this challenge I'm quitting for good.

tobore4u:
yeah same identity.

The thing is after each loss I'd block my but after 1week I open another .

I have resolved to quit betting for good hence I'm sticking to this plan.

Honestly speaking after this challenge I'm quitting for good.

I recommend closing all s but one. A bookie has every reason to confiscate your funds for multi-ing because it is against their T&C. Although Sportybet is lenient, don't try these with 1xbet and her countless clones.
And just before you quit if you have any of the listed documents, NIN not included. Create and a bet365 and an Astropay I will use it for value betting and we get to share any profit accrued from the .

Sapeleboy911:

I recommend closing all s but one. A bookie has every reason to confiscate your funds for multi-ing because it is against their T&C. Although Sportybet is lenient, don't try these with 1xbet and her countless clones.
And just before you quit if you have any of the listed documents, NIN not included. Create and a bet365 and an Astropay I will use it for value betting and we get to share any profit accrued from the .

but I really don't know how to open bet365 and Astropay .

tobore4u:
but I really don't know how to open bet365 and Astropay .

It's very easy provided you have those documents.

Sapeleboy911:

It's very easy provided you have those documents.

I only have the PDF format

tobore4u:
I only have the PDF format

Give it a try and let me know how it goes.

Sapeleboy911:

Give it a try and let me know how it goes.

ok

Sapeleboy911:

Give it a try and let me know how it goes.

not acceptable

tobore4u:
not acceptable

No way around it then.

Sapeleboy911:

No way around it then.

Alright

desmondadonis:
the bottom line is: If your mind can’t take it, just don’t think about doing it. I could go on to tell you the profits I’ve made with this strategy but if I tell you about the losses, you’ll find out that’s it’s all vanity.

Is it achievable? Only 1% of bettors can be as lucky as that South African guy. Just find what works for you.

boss rollover going smoothly....bankroll currently on 52,764 with a capital of 20k.

The temptation to play more than 1 game in a day is very strong but I'm trying to discipline myself coz I'm targeting millions

desmondadonis:
the bottom line is: If your mind can’t take it, just don’t think about doing it. I could go on to tell you the profits I’ve made with this strategy but if I tell you about the losses, you’ll find out that’s it’s all vanity.

Is it achievable? Only 1% of bettors can be as lucky as that South African guy. Just find what works for you.

Can football dot com pay me 50 million??

tobore4u:
boss rollover going smoothly....bankroll currently on 52,764 with a capital of 20k.

The temptation to play more than 1 game in a day is very strong but I'm trying to discipline myself coz I'm targeting millions

goodluck champ. Ensure you bank some profits along the line. Like when you get to 100k, try bank 20 or 30k then continue with the remaining 80k. E get why 😀

tobore4u:
Can football dot com pay me 50 million??

yes they can

desmondadonis:
goodluck champ. Ensure you bank some profits along the line. Like when you get to 100k, try bank 20 or 30k then continue with the remaining 80k. E get why 😀

For those that want to do Betfair Trading on Nigeria, me via WhatsApp number +233 53 934 1723

Let me show you the Nigerian alternative and how to get #1000 free from them.

I can't drop a link here cos it's against the rule.

Thanks.

Sapeleboy911:
Episode 5,
Backing and Laying on an exchange, then a long break.


Lol like play like play na zeal word never ending movies oh.

So I started using the martingale OV/UN strategy. The strategy works like this. First, you lay OV 1.5G or O. 5G, and once a goal goes in. You add the liability of the previous bet to your target profit and lay OV 2.5 goals. Sometimes I won 2 bets in a row. In a month I doubled my bank role doing this. Hmm, finally, the ship has been rescued.

Everything was going smoothly until I think it was Liverpool or Many City/Barca flogged Man U 6 - 1. I lost both my previous profits and bankroll on that game. I needed $900+ to lay OV 7.5 Goals. Hot tears were pouring down my cheeks, my palms were sweating.


I wanted to commit suicide by jumping into the river. On getting into the river there were lots of swimmers on the river bank. So I felt if I should attempt suicide, I would be rescued, and my news would be all over the town, which could make matters even worse for me. I considered running into a moving truck at night, but something was telling me the pain would be very horrible if I eventually survived it. I was depressed for weeks.

I sold my car for 950k in 2019 and settled for scalping and laying favorites on the Betfair exchange. The strategy involved laying low odds. For instance, if I lay a 1.20 odds for $100. I will lose just $20 if my bet loses and gain $100 if my bet wins. And just as you know, low odds don't always win.


The longest losing streak I had on 1.20 odds was 13. I had the bankroll that could withstand such a long losing run; as such, I was in profit. Just as you know, nothing good lasts forever. In September/October of 2019, Betfair made an announcement that they were exiting the Nigeria space. And directed all Nigerian s to withdraw their funds with a 2 weeks ultimatum.

Alternatives like Matchbook were very low on volumes. See my world crashing again. I withdrew my funds and took a long break. After all, I already made profits that could carry me and my family for at least 18 months. I felt sober but life



In 2020, I took a long break from sports betting and focused on learning an IT skill; I enrolled in a social engineering course on Udemy. Although I was still betting, but it was just on an experimental basis. I read lots of articles and ed lots of smart betting forums. This really helped me in getting a deep understanding of how sports betting works.

Around 2022/2023, I was more focused on IT, so I started learning web development. My motivating factor then was money and nothing else as such I somehow felt bored. I was really demotivated when I saw people looking for 50k web development jobs.

I enrolled in the ALX programming course. And those guys made me fall in love with the Linux operating system and Vim editor. For once I was enjoying what I was doing. Working from the terminal was more fun and intuitive. Unlike never ending clicks on GUIs.

Coupled with my shit job, I felt the ALX course was too fast paced and made over 90% of us copy and paste experts. We were busy hunting past students' repos, on GitHub to copy from. So I had to quit but I owe my knowledge of the Unix OS, Vim, and Git/GitHub to ALX. Learning programming became easier, I later enjoyed programming in C, but I no dey play near pointer oh. Because it always pointed a gun at my brain. To be continued...

This is a very enlightening thread. I have always known that there are ways to beat the bookies if one understands how odds, probability, and permutation work. You are the first person I've seen that tried to explain these these concepts well. I've a few questions.

Whats laying the draw?
How do you identify value bets?
Please explain the Martingale OV/UN strategy?
Also explain "laying low odds"

I hope these questions are not too much. I just want to understand how the math behind these work. My interest is more academic than pecuniary.
Thank you.

ThothHermes:
This is a very enlightening thread. I have always known that there are ways to beat the bookies if one understands how odds, probability, and permutation work. You are the first person I've seen that tried to explain these these concepts well. I've a few questions.

Whats laying the draw?
How do you identify value bets?
Please explain the Martingale OV/UN strategy?
Also explain "laying low odds"

I hope these questions are not too much. I just want to understand how the math behind these work. My interest is more academic than pecuniary.
Thank you.

Laying in betting means betting against an outcome. Only betting exchanges offer such features. When you bet on either win draw win (1 x 2) on a normal bookie like bet365 you are backing. Laying is the opposite of backing.

Let's use the picture below for illustration. Take note of the light blue and pink color columns. On the pink column, you can see that I'm trying to place a lay bet of €100, which means that I'm betting for the match not to end in a DRAW. As you can see, my liability is €360, which I will lose if the match should end in a draw. Or €100 profits if the match doesn't end in a DRAW.


If the favorite scores first, the back odds for the draw (blue column) can jump as high as 7 odds, and it keeps increasing. Since I layed the draw for $100 I can then back the draw with a stake of €260 for a guaranteed profit of €40 no matter how the match ends, or I can let it ride by not placing a back bet and pray the game doesn't ends in a draw.

But if the outsiders score first or there are no early goals, then the back odds for the draw will be reducing per second, and my €360 will be depleting gradually since there is a high chance of the favorite equalizing or the match ending in a draw.

Laying low odds is all bout betting against low odds outcome. Let us again use the picture below. If I place a lay bet of €100 at odds of 1.48. It means that I'm betting that the favorite team will not WIN. I will lose €48, which is my liability if the favorite wins, or win €100 if they lose or draw. If the odds for the favourite is 1.20 using a €100 lay stake means I'm risking €20 to win €100.

Martingale is all about chasing your losses for a guaranteed profit. In reality, it only works if you have an unlimited bankroll, which is not possible. It was my favorite strategy for OV/UN goals then. This is how OV/UN martingale works. And it is a very dangerous strategy, it can ruin your bankroll in minutes.

You place a lay bet of €10 on OV0.5 goals on odds of 1.20. Given the fact that such odds are very low, around 1.05 - 1.20, you risk losing €2 if the game doesn't end 0 - 0 or win €10 if it does. If the first goal goes in. You then place another lay bet of €10 on OV 1.5 goals; if the second goal goes in, you add your previous 2 losses to your target profit and continue placing lay bets on OV n.5 goals. The liability may be low, but it can compound very quickly in high-scoring games, like that of Manu vs Lyon, which had about 9 goals.

Like the match below, At halftime, the score is 1 - 3 in favor of the outsiders. The back odds for the DRAW are currently at just 5.20. Even after 3 goals from the outsiders, the back odds for the favorite have jumped from 1.47 to 11.20. If I had layed the favorite for €100 (bet that they won't WIN) my current guaranteed profit would have been around €86.74. But if I had laid the Draw at 4.60, my current profit would have been at a measly €11.24. That's because the favorites still have a high chance of ending the game in a DRAW.

Lesson learned: It is never a good idea to lay at high odds, even though the chances of winning are very high; just 1 loss can have damaging effects on a bankroll. On the other hand, laying on low odds seems more profitable because even though the chances of winning are low, bankroll ruining is less likely. Take, for instance, If I lose 2 straight games at 1.48 odds on a €100 stak,e, I lose a total of €96, but on an odd of €4.60, I lose a total of €720.

On identifying value bets, first read my post on "How do bookmakers make money"

In closing, don't try any of these strategies; believe me, I've seen it all. If you are not arbing or value betting you can't make a dime from betting. You can only beat the bookies using these 2 strategies (arbitrage and value betting), and they will frustrate you for beating them; stay safe.

Sapeleboy911:


Laying in betting means betting against an outcome. Only betting exchanges offer such features. When you bet on either win draw win (1 x 2) on a normal bookie like bet365 you are backing. Laying is the opposite of backing.

Let's use the picture below for illustration. Take note of the light blue and pink color columns. On the pink column, you can see that I'm trying to place a lay bet of €100, which means that I'm betting for the match not to end in a DRAW. As you can see, my liability is €360, which I will lose if the match should end in a draw. Or €100 profits if the match doesn't end in a DRAW.


If the favorite scores first, the back odds for the draw (blue column) can jump as high as 7 odds, and it keeps increasing. Since I layed the draw for $100 I can then back the draw with a stake of €260 for a guaranteed profit of €40 no matter how the match ends, or I can let it ride by not placing a back bet and pray the game doesn't ends in a draw.

But if the outsiders score first or there are no early goals, then the back odds for the draw will be reducing per second, and my €360 will be depleting gradually since there is a high chance of the favorite equalizing or the match ending in a draw.

Laying low odds is all bout betting against low odds outcome. Let us again use the picture below. If I place a lay bet of €100 at odds of 1.48. It means that I'm betting that the favorite team will not WIN. I will lose €48, which is my liability if the favorite wins, or win €100 if they lose or draw. If the odds for the favourite is 1.20 using a €100 lay stake means I'm risking €20 to win €100.

Martingale is all about chasing your losses for a guaranteed profit. In reality, it only works if you have an unlimited bankroll, which is not possible. It was my favorite strategy for OV/UN goals then. This is how OV/UN martingale works. And it is a very dangerous strategy, it can ruin your bankroll in minutes.

You place a lay bet of €10 on OV0.5 goals on odds of 1.20. Given the fact that such odds are very low, around 1.05 - 1.20, you risk losing €2 if the game doesn't end 0 - 0 or win €10 if it does. If the first goal goes in. You then place another lay bet of €10 on OV 1.5 goals; if the second goal goes in, you add your previous 2 losses to your target profit and continue placing lay bets on OV n.5 goals. The liability may be low, but it can compound very quickly in high-scoring games, like that of Manu vs Lyon, which had about 9 goals.

Like the match below, At halftime, the score is 1 - 3 in favor of the outsiders. The back odds for the DRAW are currently at just 5.20. Even after 3 goals from the outsiders, the back odds for the favorite have jumped from 1.47 to 11.20. If I had layed the favorite for €100 (bet that they won't WIN) my current guaranteed profit would have been around €86.74. But if I had laid the Draw at 4.60, my current profit would have been at a measly €11.24. That's because the favorites still have a high chance of ending the game in a DRAW.

Lesson learned: It is never a good idea to lay at high odds, even though the chances of winning are very high; just 1 loss can have damaging effects on a bankroll. On the other hand, laying on low odds seems more profitable because even though the chances of winning are low, bankroll ruining is less likely. Take, for instance, If I lose 2 straight games at 1.48 odds on a €100 stak,e, I lose a total of €96, but on an odd of €4.60, I lose a total of €720.

On identifying value bets, first read my post on "How do bookmakers make money"

In closing, don't try any of these strategies; believe me, I've seen it all. If you are not arbing or value betting you can't make a dime from betting. You can only beat the bookies using these 2 strategies (arbitrage and value betting), and they will frustrate you for beating them; stay safe.

Illuminating.
Thank you.
So you're a full-time punter now?