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1. "The industrious getteth riches." (Prov 10:4)

2. "The strong shall get riches." (Prov 11:16)

3. "The crown of the wise is their riches". (Prov 14:24)

4. "Wisdom with riches is more profitable." (Eccles 7:12)

5. "All things obey money." (Eccles 10:19)



Seek wisdom,,, then money. It's important in that order. (Ecclesiastes 7:12)

Really? I disagree with that No. 5. Things dont all obey money. Instead it is money that answerwth to all thing when owners are willing to part with them(things).

So when Jesus told a man to sell everything he has , gather his riches, and then give the money to the needy, Jesus did not know what he was saying abi?

Sirmwill:
So when Jesus told a man to sell everything he has , gather his riches, and then give the money to the needy, Jesus did not know what he was saying abi?

It's not a universal command for all believers. It was directed at a specific individual, one who claimed to have kept all the commandments since his youth.

According to your Bible, Jesus saw that his attachment to wealth was his stumbling block, the thing preventing him from true discipleship. Got it?

Botragelad:

It's not a universal command for all believers. It was directed at a specific individual, one who claimed to have kept all the commandments since his youth.
According to your Bible, Jesus saw that his attachment to wealth was his stumbling block, the thing preventing him from true discipleship. Got it?

How come Jesus is POOR?
He said:

“Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Luke 9:58
In fact when temple tax collectors asked him for money he has to perform a miracle to pay up! Matthew 17:24-27
After his arrest the soldiers found no money on him so they gambled over the only thing they could get which is his inner garment.
So if Jesus himself was POOR materially speaking who is that person that's closer to God than Jesus o?

MaxInDHouse:

How come Jesus is POOR?
He said:

“Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Luke 9:58
In fact when temple tax collectors asked him for money he has to perform a miracle to pay up! Matthew 17:24-27
After his arrest the soldiers found no money on him so they gambled over the only thing they could get which is his inner garment.
So if Jesus himself was POOR materially speaking who is that person that's closer to God than Jesus o?

2 Corinthians 8:9:
"For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that being rich he became poor for your sakes: that through his poverty you might be rich."

NigerianAngelo:

2 Corinthians 8:9:
"For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that being rich he became poor for your sakes: that through his poverty you might be rich."

So which of the apostles became rich o?

NigerianAngelo:


2 Corinthians 8:9:
"For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that being rich he became poor for your sakes: that through his poverty you might be rich."

maximumSide does not understand the meaning of poverty. Riches are not only measured by material things but also things that will make things that money can buy to obey you. For instance The Pope, head of Catholic Church, if he says he needs ten latest personal jets today, his people would gladly provide them.

There is a difference between inability and choice. Jesus wanted to feed thousands of people, He provided without begging. He wanted to pay tax, He provided the money. He wanted to appreciate Peter after using his boat for preaching, He provided fish.

I heard about a rich man in this Nigeria who claimed to have not touched a paper currency for the last twenty years. Every request is directed to his personal assistant for attention.

Jesus was more than that. No situation can embarrass Him. That is prosperity mhen!

MightySparrow:

maximumSide does not understand the meaning of poverty. Riches are not only measured by material things but also things that will make things that money can buy to obey you. For instance The Pope, head of Catholic Church, if he says he needs ten latest personal jets today, his people would gladly provide them.
There is a difference between inability and choice. Jesus wanted to feed thousands of people, He provided without begging. He wanted to pay tax, He provided the money. He wanted to appreciate Peter after using his boat for preaching, He provided fish.
I heard about a rich man in this Nigeria who claimed to have not touched a paper currency for the last twenty years. Every request is directed to his personal assistant for attention.
Jesus was more than that. No situation can embarrass Him. That is prosperity mhen!

So when he died how much did he keep as assets like your Gods of men today does while quoting the same scriptures to extort money from you?

MaxInDHouse:

So when he died how much did he keep as assets like your Gods of men today does while quoting the same scriptures to extort money from you?

Choice and purpose.
IHe left inheritance for us more than money and houses. That is why nobody is fighting for anything inheritance but faith in His name.

MightySparrow:

Choice and purpose.
IHe left inheritance for us more than money and houses. That is why nobody is fighting for anything inheritance but faith in His name.

You love deceiving yourself sha!

What caused the rift between Oyedepo and Abioye?
What of Adeboye and the head pastor at Ajah?
What of C.A.C. that Niyi Adedokun sang about in his album "church wa ń mẹmu"?
Guy you love deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:


You love deceiving yourself sha!

What caused the rift between Oyedepo and Abioye?
What of Adeboye and the head pastor at Ajah?
What of C.A.C. that Niyi Adedokun sang about in his album "church wa ń mẹmu"?
Guy you love deceiving yourself!

Why are so concerned about all other ministries?

MightySparrow:

Why are so concerned about all other ministries?

You said:

MightySparrow:

Choice and purpose.
He (Jesus) left inheritance for us more than money and houses. That is why nobody is fighting for anything inheritance but faith in His name.

So how come your pastors are fighting over material possessions if truly they belong to the same rank with us? 2Corinthians 11:12

Do you now agree that your pastors are not on the same page with Jehovah's organization where we have no issues with material possessions?

Your kinds who wanted to establish such are choked so they can't practice that nonsense in the congregation of the true God that's why they always complain bitterly about God's organization yet they find solace in no other religion!

Botragelad:

It's not a universal command for all believers. It was directed at a specific individual, one who claimed to have kept all the commandments since his youth.

According to your Bible, Jesus saw that his attachment to wealth was his stumbling block, the thing preventing him from true discipleship. Got it?

That one is a Satanist

MaxInDHouse:

So which of the apostles became rich o?

Did you see them want or lack anything?

StillDtruth:

Did you see them want or lack anything?

Just as you can't find any true servant of God today lack or want! Psalms 23:1; 37:25
But when talking about accumulating assets here on earth Jesus kicked against it! Matthew 6:19-21

MaxInDHouse:


You said:



So how come your pastors are fighting over material possessions if truly they belong to the same rank with us? 2Corinthians 11:12

Do you now agree that your pastors are not on the same page with Jehovah's organization where we have no issues with material possessions?

Your kinds who wanted to establish such are choke so they can't practice that nonsense in the congregation of the true God that's why they always complain bitterly about God's organization yet they find solace in no other religion!

It is your organization that has problems with others who don't believe you exist. Is it Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi and others that have time to mention your organization in their preaching , teachings, or media. It is your organization playing Pharisees and Sadducees. If not for my interaction with your kinds in my family, what do we have in common.
Continue to be a judge over God's people: who sent you message?

Rom.14.4 - Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

MightySparrow:

It is your organization that has problems with others who don't believe you exist. Is it Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi and others that have time to mention your organization in their preaching , teachings, or media. It is your organization playing Pharisees and Sadducees. If not for my interaction with your kinds in my family, what do we have in common.
Continue to be a judge over God's people: who sent you message?
Rom.14.4 - Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

This is NOT PREACHING rather it's about riches taught in the Bible so if there are religions claiming Christians but they can't practice the type of riches Bible talked about then they are not Christians!
What type of riches does God's word teaches?
It's not about few individuals accumulating assets worth billions of dollars while of the same religion are beggars or paupers rather it simply means there will be found no beggars among them and when it comes to what is needed to practice pure worship adequately all will have it.
That's what God's people in ancient times practiced as common wealth so that both the rich and the poor among them could serve as priests and prophets of God and be well recognized among them unlike today that it's only wealthy ones are recognized among you people.
Among Jehovah's Witnesses recognition is given to our brothers globally as we are all looking forward to imitate the faith of such ones whether they are rich or poor.

MaxInDHouse:

This is NOT PREACHING rather it's about riches taught in the Bible so if there are religions claiming Christians but they can't practice the type of riches Bible talked about then they are not Christians!
What type of riches does God's word teaches?
It's not about few individuals accumulating assets worth billions of dollars while of the same religion are beggars or paupers rather it simply means there will be found no beggars among them and when it comes to what is needed to practice pure worship adequately all will have it.
That's what God's people in ancient times practiced as common wealth so that both the rich and the poor among them could serve as priests and prophets of God and be well recognized among them unlike today that it's only wealthy ones are recognized among you people.
Among Jehovah's Witnesses recognition is given to our brothers globally as we are all looking forward to imitate the faith of such ones whether they are rich or poor.

That's exactly what we are saying. Just give an example of one person doing babiya Allah from these churches.

You have your own guiding principles and these have. If someone is a committed member, he would be taken care of. That I know. I don't know much about the workings of your organization and have never attended any of your meetings.
In the pentecostals, we help ourselves in our own ways. I don't need to tell you how. We sure do if you are a committed member not someone who is JW today, Catholic tomorrow, CCC day after. When I had nothing I enjoyed that, even in my university days as an indigent student . I know people from my place, your that are super rich, they have not sold the companies and shared the money among the less privileged in your organization. So, what are you taking about.

MightySparrow:


That's exactly what we are saying. Just give an example of one person doing babiya Allah from these churches.

You have your own guiding principles and these have. If someone is a committed member, he would be taken care of. That I know. I don't know much about the workings of your organization and have never attended any of your meetings.
In the pentecostals, we help ourselves in our own ways. I don't need to tell you how. We sure do if you are a committed member not someone who is JW today, Catholic tomorrow, CCC day after. When I had nothing I enjoyed that, even in my university days as an indigent student . I know people from my place, your that are super rich, they have not sold the companies and shared the money among the less privileged in your organization. So, what are you taking about.

OK so whenever anyone is found in the bus, street corner or public square begging for money in the name of God such a person is not a Christian.

Do you agree?

MaxInDHouse:


OK so whenever anyone is found in the bus, street corner or public square begging for money in the name of God such a person is not a Christian.

Do you agree?

And you can be sure they are from Oyedepo's church or Kumuyi or RCCG? You are just delusional in your defense. Anyway,

Botragelad:

It's not a universal command for all believers. It was directed at a specific individual, one who claimed to have kept all the commandments since his youth.

According to your Bible, Jesus saw that his attachment to wealth was his stumbling block, the thing preventing him from true discipleship. Got it?

The Bible is replete with numerous onitions, highlighting the principles of wealth attachment, and incompatibility of serving both God and money.

MightySparrow:

And you can be sure they are from Oyedepo's church or Kumuyi or RCCG? You are just delusional in your defense. Anyway,

Ọmọ your so called Christians are in bus stops begging for money to feed their families claiming it's to their ministry!

MaxInDHouse:

Just as you can't find any true servant of God today lack or want! Psalms 23:1; 37:25
But when talking about accumulating assets here on earth Jesus kicked against it! Matthew 6:19-21

See magu magu answer because your cult is a cooperative society like ajö!

StillDtruth:

See magu magu answer because your cult is a cooperative society like ajö!

Jesus and his group were a cooperative society that's why they had a treasurer {John 12:6} in their midst so only Jehovah's Witnesses are true followers of Christ!

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus and his group were a cooperative society that's why they had a treasurer {John 12:6} in their midst so only Jehovah's Witnesses are true followers of Christ!

So are bandits and herdsmen and ogboni cults

StillDtruth:

So are bandits and herdsmen

YES!
But the mission is to search for friends of peace {Luke 10:6} unlike bandits and herdsmen who comes to attack people in their homes. Isaiah 5:20

MaxInDHouse:

YES!
But the ...

Don't worry bout the but. We have eyes and we can see everybody's mission

StillDtruth:

Don't worry bout the but. We have eyes and we can see everybody's mission

If you truly have eyes that's seeing you won't compare a peaceful organization with terrorists simply because both keep money for common use!

‘You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them' Matthew 13:14-15

MaxInDHouse:

If you truly have eyes that's seeing you won't compare a peaceful organization with terrorists simply because both keep money for common use!

Guns are not the only weapons used for murdering people as proven by the woman in Proverbs 5

StillDtruth:

Guns are not the only weapons used for murdering people as proven by the woman in Proverbs 5

That's how Pharisees are Sadducees also think about Jesus and his disciples despite the fact that they were peaceful people. Isaiah 5:20

NigerianAngelo:


2 Corinthians 8:9:
"For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that being rich he became poor for your sakes: that through his poverty you might be rich."

Explain Ephesians 1:3.

King James Bible
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: