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Why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?

Some Would say , The Devil wasn't Created to destroy God's Plan but Sin Entered into him and He Turned Against God .

God created Everything, Where did SIN Emanated from ?

Did the Devil Creates SIN ?

The Devil was Said to be among the Angels ..Right ?
Does the Devil too has Flesh ,Was Sinful Spirits Parts of the Devil's Creative Components ?

if this is true ,Meaning God Puts in that Sinful spirit in the Devil ..

Was it God's Original Plan to Make the devil acts the way he did .

Judas...Christ Must be betrayed for the Prophesy to be fulfilled .

Revelation 12 V 7..And there was War in Heaven ....

Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others .

Don't come on here and starts commenting like God .

If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not .

MaxinDHouse , Kobojunkie , Dtruthspeaker and others You are all Welcome.

Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Bad Devil is necessary because good God exists.
God made this a system of dualities. You can't have singularity. Even matter has antimatter. He assigned Himself the position of good. To obey His law of this system there has to be a counterbalancing bad!

DaddyCoool:
Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Devil is necessary because God exists

Hmmmmm ! Thanks .So , if this is true ..It was a Natural Necessity that God Has to Create The Opposing Spirit that Possessed the Devil to Acts in Opposition to God inorder to Balance Nature ?.

This is an old question. And, there can hardly be an answer we can all accept. You can't understand it just as your 5-year-old can't understand it when you whip him.

In my understanding, the Devil is like someone who does God's dirty jobs. Or, he's like a control experiment.

And, I can my perspective with biblical scriptures. For instance, when Jesus Christ went to the wilderness, the Bible suggests that the Holy Spirit cooperated with the Devil on purpose to get Jesus tempted.

"Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil" (Mt. 4:1).

docdes:
This is an old question. And, there can hardly be an answer we can all accept. You can't understand it just as your 5-year-old can't understand it when you whip him.

In my understanding, the Devil is like someone who does God's dirty jobs. Or, he's like a control experiment.

And, I can my perspective with biblical scriptures. For instance, when Jesus Christ went to the wilderness, the Bible suggests that the Holy Spirit cooperated with the Devil on purpose to get Jesus tempted.

"Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil" (Mt. 4:1).

Hmmmm ! This is Very Deep..

DaddyCoool:
Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Bad Devil is necessary because good God exists

Food is all good.

Rest is all good

Play is really good

Laughter is all good

Help is all good

Worshipping God is all good etc

The devil was only created to do evil, that’s the problem he has with God, that was his divine purpose of existence, the devil never liked that job description because he felt it wasn’t fair.

So he wasn’t meant to gain consciousness to the point of questioning his purpose, that’s why he was termed “Rebellious “. Take for example, your superior at your work place gives you an instruction to carry out, which you have been doing in the past in obedience but this particular day he gives you similar instructions and you asked him/her

“what’s the purpose of doing this task? “….

You’ll notice that from that moment, your superior’s countenance will become different towards you and when you repeat similar act, he/she sees you as a problem and sees you as becoming rebellious and always questioning his or her orders.


These were exactly the case between God and lucifer, and something led to it, and it’s called “ over familiarity “, lucifer was God’s most beloved angel, because he was the one doing the dirty work for God… God is holy and cannot be involved directly in anything evil, but he can do evil by proxy using lucifer, which was what lucifer started questioning.

How’s is lucifer God most beloved angel, he knows the dirty work he has been doing as a result of God’s instructions, so it’s always very easy to bring in someone that knows how dangerous you’re closer so that you can always checkmate him or her and also because you both understand how important and dangerous the information and some secrets the person possesses. This is why lucifer felt like he knew God more than other angels and the thing that made him God, but that’s just a grain of salt information when compared to the complexity of God.

Lucifer only knew the bad side of God but didn’t know the loving, good and caring side of God because he wasn’t created for such and he longed so much for it, he can only pretend to enforce the good side but it doesn’t last, the evil side takes over immediately and dominates, that’s why the devil can be caring, loving, but it’s temporary, it’s all enclosed and packaged in deceit because it’s not in his making to be good,

Take a programmed robot as an example, the robot suddenly gains consciousness, but despite his new acquired consciousness, it’s not able to override the program which it was designed, it ends up doing the developer’s bidding.

That’s what the devil experiences, that’s why the devil doesn’t see God as all loving, because he felt it’s against his will.

Note : Angels don’t have free will, if you’re created to be a dancing angel for God’s amusement, that’s what you will be doing in default, you as an angel doesn’t have a choice, all you must do is obey.


This free will was given to humans, that’s why lucifer became angry and filled himself with rage towards humans because Humans was God’s favourite in all his creation,

Lucifer seeing that God loves humans and cared for them, always available for them that multiplied his rage.


Next he went to other angels that do similar job like him and woke their consciousness, it was easy for him because those angels were already evil but obedience, but due to his cunning skill, he only needed to trigger them into being disobedience, those angels were already evil like lucifer by default, but they were obedient to God, so lucifer was able to make them disobey God, and they became rebellious, giving lucifer the number he needed to get God attention.


The good angels it was difficult because by default they were good, so tricking them to him was a waste of time, so that was where the war started cooking.



God made all evil angels leave heaven, they fell short of God’s Grace…. That’s where the concept of

“Fallen Angels “ came from.


Those rebellious angels lost all privileges, since all was orchestrated by lucifer, he led them away waiting for the day of final hearing, until then Lucifer have been busy.

floss:
The devil was only created to do evil, that’s the problem he has with God, that was his divine purpose of existence, the devil never liked that job description because he felt it wasn’t fair.

So he wasn’t meant to gain consciousness to the point of questioning his purpose, that’s why he was termed “Rebellious “. Take for example, your superior at your work place gives you an instruction to carry out, which you have been doing in the past in obedience but this particular day he gives you similar instructions and you asked him/her

“what’s the purpose of doing this task? “….

You’ll notice that from that moment, your superior’s countenance will become different towards you and when you repeat similar act, he/she sees you as a problem and sees you as becoming rebellious and always questioning his or her orders.


These were exactly the case between God and lucifer, and something led to it, and it’s called “ over familiarity “, lucifer was God’s most beloved angel, because he was the one doing the dirty work for God… God is holy and cannot be involved directly in anything evil, but he can do evil by proxy using lucifer, which was what lucifer started questioning.

How’s is lucifer God most beloved angel, he knows the dirty work he has been doing as a result of God’s instructions, so it’s always very easy to bring in someone that knows how dangerous you’re closer so that you can always checkmate him or her and also because you both understand how important and dangerous the information and some secrets the person possesses. This is why lucifer felt like he knew God more than other angels and the thing that made him God, but that’s just a grain of salt information when compared to the complexity of God.

Lucifer only knew the bad side of God but didn’t know the loving, good and caring side of God because he wasn’t created for such and he longed so much for it, he can only pretend to enforce the good side but it doesn’t last, the evil side takes over immediately and dominates, that’s why the devil can be caring, loving, but it’s temporary, it’s all enclosed and packaged in deceit because it’s not in his making to be good,

Take a programmed robot as an example, the robot suddenly gains consciousness, but despite his new acquired consciousness, it’s not able to override the program which it was designed, it ends up doing the developer’s bidding.

That’s what the devil experiences, that’s why the devil doesn’t see God as all loving, because he felt it’s against his will.

Note : Angels don’t have free will, if you’re created to be a dancing angel for God’s amusement, that’s what you will be doing in default, you as an angel doesn’t have a choice

You can't comprehend spiritual matters with mere common sense and logic!

EmperorIsaac:

You can't comprehend spiritual matters with mere common sense and logic!

This is the problem with overzealous Christians like you, if I had written this during the time the bible was written, will you have the audacity to say what you just said, but because you know I’m your fellow black man, God cannot reveal some divine truth to me Abi ?


I’m not surprised at your comment, but point of correction, I’m not ordinary my brother

Newgoodkk:
➜Why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?
➜Some Would say , The Devil wasn't Created to destroy God's Plan but Sin Entered into him and He Turned Against God .
➜God created Everything, Where did SIN Emanated from ?
➜Did the Devil Creates SIN ?
➜The Devil was Said to be among the Angels ..Right ?
➜Does the Devil too has Flesh ,Was Sinful Spirits Parts of the Devil's Creative Components ?
➜if this is true ,Meaning God Puts in that Sinful spirit in the Devil .. Was it God's Original Plan to Make the devil acts the way he did .
➜ Judas...Christ Must be betrayed for the Prophesy to be fulfilled .
➜Revelation 12 V 7..And there was War in Heaven ....
➜Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others .

1. The books — authored by Israelites— contained in what is your Bible DO NOT suggest that YHWH who titled Himself "God of Israel", created nor has the devil been acting as destroyer of His plan. The ones who fed you that idea that the devil is the destroyer of YHWH's—God of Israel—plan are your religious overlords.

2. The books — authored by Israelites— contained in what is your Bible DO NOT suggest that the devil created by YHWH—God of Israel—ever sinned against YHWH—God of Israel—. The ones who fed you that idea that the devil is the destroyer of YHWH's plan are your religious overlords.

3. YHWH—God of Israel—defines sin in His Laws. Therefore, since it was created by YHWH—God of Israel— that is what the books say.

4. The Devil has no power to create anything since YHWH is the creator of all things. Again, this is what the Book says.

5. The Devil never ceased to be an angel of YHWH—God of Israel.

6. This is a weird question! Are angels fleshly, sinful spirit beings? That idea also does not come from the books that comprise the Israelite Scripture, which is known as the Bible today.

7. As I already answered before, there is no mention of the devil being a sinner or having a sinful spirit, as you claim in the Israelite Scriptures — the Bible. The book instead affirms that the Devil was created as he exists from His beginnings, implying he has never at any point since his creation changed. This would, in turn, mean that he is doing even today exactly what he was created by His maker to do.

8. The book instead writes that Judas was a flesh and blood man, not the devil.

9. Revelations 1 also preinformed you that everything written in the Book is not meant to be consumed, given that it is a record of dreams/visions had by the author. Surely, you do not copy-paste what you see in your dreams to your life, do you?

10. What you need is to first abandon all the ridiculous lies your head seems filled with, as is made obvious by the questions you ask here. Abandon all of those fables, and then maybe even abandon the Bible since the book is instead only for those who are of the bloodline of Jacob as YHWH—God of Israel— reiterated several times by way of His Law in the book. Maybe then you will find yourself the knowledge you seek.

Newgoodkk:
Why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?

Some Would say , The Devil wasn't Created to destroy God's Plan but Sin Entered into him and He Turned Against God .

God created Everything, Where did SIN Emanated from ?

Did the Devil Creates SIN ?
.

So you see, you have moved from the wrong thinking of thinking whether God create the devil to destroy His plan to actually trying to find out the Truth of what happened using the available information we have been given.

Newgoodkk:

The Devil was Said to be among the Angels ..Right ?
Does the Devil too has Flesh ,Was Sinful Spirits Parts of the Devil's Creative Components ?

if this is true ,Meaning God Puts in that Sinful spirit in the Devil ..

Was it God's Original Plan to Make the devil acts the way he did .

Judas...Christ Must be betrayed for the Prophesy to be fulfilled .

Revelation 12 V 7..And there was War in Heaven ....

You guys should pay attention to how you guys carry out investigations otherwise you end up tainting your own evidence, then you find yourself submiting that tainted evidence only for someone to come and point out that you tainted the evidence with your own prints.

First you have to that God created persons whether spiritual or fleshy but they are still Persons.

And persons means a being capable of doing either good or evil.

That is why we see have Holy Spirit vs evil spirit as we good doers and workers of evil in the flesh.

And persons are not mannequins or robots because they have a right to act in a way that is either good or evil.

So where did sin come from? Answer: Satan

Why him?
Because God has a thing for the FIRST.

The Lord Jesus is God's First, so you see why He is The Greatest of All of The Most High's creation and God over values Him because Jesus is The First. And you see, the whole world knows Him.

Same thing for Satan, for as you see the whole world knows him to be the greatest and worsest of all evil

And because there is no one greater in evil, it clearly indicates that He was the FIRST to sin.

And we see this pattern replicated again and again. Eg
Male Adam hence why God takes all male first borns, Female Adam was the first human to sin, and like Satan, God never concluded her case but adjourned it [b]sine die [/b]

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8281391/god-thing-first-there-always#133098226

So all these is because Satan started the custom and tradition of sinning and got others to him in it

Deepspirituals:
Hmmmmm ! Thanks .So , if this is true ..It was a Natural Necessity that God Has to Create The Opposing Spirit that Possessed the Devil to Acts in Opposition to God inorder to Balance Nature ?.

No it's not. She is talking rubbish.

The creations which God created are called persons. And persons are not mannequins or robots because they have a right to act in a way that is either good or evil.

docdes:
This is an old question. And, there can hardly be an answer we can all accept. You can't understand it just as your 5-year-old can't understand it when you whip him.

In my understanding, the Devil is like someone who does God's dirty jobs. Or, he's like a control experiment

Wrong!

CIA, SSS etc do dirty jobs for their rulers and in the end they get promoted and retire with pensions and honour and glowry.

But Satan is caught and thrown in Prison and in disgrace. He even wars against the God Whom you claim he works for.

Should Wike war against Tinubu would you say that he does Tinubu's dirty works?

No!

That clearly means that he is an enemy of state just Bello Turji.

Your example of the temptation of Jesus is already falled because you should have ed that so did he tempt the angels and where are they now? In God's Prison

So, this tells you that Satan is just trying to get any person he can get.

And that Jesus allowed this to happen so as to show us that Satan goes after anyone but he is beatable.

So, you are wrong

Newgoodkk:
Hmmmm ! This is Very Deep..

He is still Wrong

Newgoodkk:

Why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?
MaxinDHouse.

God is Holy this means He is incapable of evil thoughts all His ways are good so when He gave life to creatures He never thought any could be an ingrate as the first creature He made was really friendly and full of appreciation {Proverbs 8:22-31} as happy as God is He decided to create more but this time around He wanted His FIRSTBORN child to be happy too so He empower this son to create all other creatures {Colossians 1:15} God is always happy {1Timothy 1:11} but will working beside His father in creating other creatures make the child happy too?
Well God told His FIRSTBORN child that whatever he is able to create with the God gives all belongs to this child {Colossians 1:16} so the son jumped into action but something happened along the way the first creatures God's firstborn son created were spirit creatures just like himself so they all respected him as the number one or archangel while he humbly makes all of them feel important telling them all glory and honour belongs to his father who is their father too.
Well one of the first spirit creatures feels he should be in a position better than what he is presently {Isaiah 14:13} God is the only one who knows the right person to give such authority to {Revelations 4:11} and His firstborn son wants to win his father's approval not as the firstborn but earn it in unique way.
So this spirit creature became so envious that he began scheming ways to gain dominance over other creatures that is how evil began and if you carefully watch what has been happening throughout history you will find out that those who wants to rule over others often becomes vicious in all their dealings. John 8:44
The Bible is all about how evil began and how it's going to end only two persons are certain to know these: Almighty God and His only begotten son because it's only these two that knows the beginning of evil as they both created all other creatures among whom a rebel emerged.
That's why both the father and His firstborn son keep saying they know the beginning and the end, the beginning and end of what?
Badness!

May you have peace!

DaddyCoool:
Good and evil. Mention one instance in nature where there is singularity. Right can't exist without left, up can't exist without down, etc. Bad Devil is necessary because good God exists

So god is limited by constraints ergo he's not omnipotent or all powerful, then how is he god?!

StillDtruth:


He is still Wrong

You have No Right or Authority to Say Someone is Wrong or right !

Make your Comments and Don't Turn your Views , Comments to Authority Over Others . Let your Comments Do the Work of Truth


The Op Mention This .

MaxInDHouse:
Well God told His FIRSTBORN child that whatever he is able to create with the God gives all belongs to this child {Colossians 1:16} so the son jumped into action but something happened along the way the first creatures God's firstborn son created were spirit creatures just like himself so they all respected him as the number one or archangel while he humbly makes all of them feel important telling them all glory and honour belongs to his father who is their father too.

PRIMUS CONVENTUS🤧
SATAN MUST BE PROUD!
You just alluded to one of the implications I told you about over 2weeks ago🙃 which you failed to accept.

Michael therefore created a few, this few ended up being called Archangels 🤧. When then were the others made? And how many divine days did it take Michael 👀 to finish making the host of heaven!!!

Well one of the first spirit creatures feels he should be in a position better than what he is presently {Isaiah 14:13} God is the only one who knows the right person to give such authority to {Revelations 4:11} and His firstborn son wants to win his father's approval not as the firstborn but earn it in unique way.

Although popular lore seems to suggest Satan was of high rank, but I have come to see that he wasn't.
He just took advantage of the situation and won power to himself.
It wasn't by might, neither by wisdom but because other fallen angels went after their own greed!!!

That's why both the father and His firstborn son keep saying they know the beginning and the end, the beginning and end of what?
Badness!

May you have peace!

This implies, "badness" won't end👀.
While yet captivating, it just ends up being a low level IQ resolution of the scriptures!

And to answer Op's question.
Giving it a careful thought, one must consider it from all sides.

From the perspective of God, Satan was an angel that sang before him and ministered before the host of heaven. He idolized God and wanted to be like him but for some reasons he couldn't meet up! Hence he wanted to replace God!!!

Summary: Satan used his free will to commit treason and he had the help of others(fallen angels) in doing so!

From Satan's perspective, the game was rigged. There was no true freedom, we will always be puppets. It's the classic case of transferring the failures of oneself to the government/system etc.

Hence Satan's modus operandi mirrored what he supposed God did to them.
"Give them promises but they won't attain".

This became his mode of operation with other lower beings, by giving them fake promises. Mixing lies with truths.

As far as power stands, Satan even to his own surprise was spared to act as a test for others!!!

He will be a tool to bring out the best in others!

The perceived "evil" will end up bringing forth "good" at the hand of the day.

But Satan aware of his timely end has developed a no nonsense "approach", that doesn't discriminate at all.

He is willing, if possible, to make sure he doesn't go down alone and to bring down the entire creation.

Hence he is working overtime, serving his own archetype schemes but fulfilling divine scripts!!!

Gabrielshow24:

PRIMUS CONVENTUS🤧
SATAN MUST BE PROUD!
You just alluded to one of the implications I told you about over 2weeks ago🙃 which you failed to accept.
Michael therefore created a few, this few ended up being called Archangels 🤧. When then were the others made? And how many divine days did it take Michael 👀 to finish making the host of heaven!!! Although popular lore seems to suggest Satan was of high rank, but I have come to see that he wasn't.
He just took advantage of the situation and won power to himself.
It wasn't by might, neither by wisdom but because other fallen angels went after their own greed!!! This implies, "badness" won't end👀.
While yet captivating, it just ends up being a low level IQ resolution of the scriptures!

Some people can't just be orderly!

Newgoodkk:

Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others Don't come on here and starts commenting like God. If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not.

MaxInDHouse:


Some people can't just be orderly!

Indeed, I am just calling your attention to your theatrical completion of your modern treatise on Angels - Primus conventus - and its logical implications 🙃.

Gabrielshow24:

Indeed, I am just calling your attention to your theatrical completion of your modern treatise on Angels - Primus conventus - and its logical implications 🙃.

It's just simple you don't have regards for orderliness, according to the OP you should just drop your own opinion about the topic of discussion and leave whatever others believe:

Newgoodkk:

Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others Don't come on here and starts commenting like God. If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not.

But as you're not trained to be orderly the fruit will speak! Matthew 7:16-18

MaxInDHouse:


It's just simple you don't have regards for orderliness, according to the OP you should just drop your own opinion about the topic of discussion and leave whatever others believe:



But as you're not trained to be orderly the fruit will speak! Matthew 7:16-18

What issue exactly do you have with my comments? 🤔 Probably you can't answer my questions🥲, How pathetic🤦🏾‍♂️

Did they prick your heart?
Also, I have no time to exchange words with you.
I have dropped what I came for.
And I have also gotten your complete allusions on your book - PRIMUS CONVENTUS!!!

if you have a problem with that, sulk it.
We have better things to worry about than your fragile ego🥲.

Gabrielshow24:

What issue exactly do you have with my comments? 🤔 Probably you can't answer my questions🥲, How pathetic🤦🏾‍♂️
Did they prick your heart?
Also, I have no time to exchange words with you.
I have dropped what I came for.
And I have also gotten your complete allusions on your book - PRIMUS CONVENTUS!!!
if you have a problem with that, sulk it.
We have better things to worry about than your fragile ego🥲.

Nnamdipapa:

Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Questionnaires:

MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Matthew 5:16

StillDtruth:


Food is all good.

Rest is all good

Play is really good

Laughter is all good

Help is all good

Worshipping God is all good etc

God is also all good. What's your point?
Wherever there is matter, there is antimatter

Deepspirituals:
Hmmmmm ! Thanks .So , if this is true ..It was a Natural Necessity that God Has to Create The Opposing Spirit that Possessed the Devil to Acts in Opposition to God inorder to Balance Nature ?.

You nailed it. You can't have all good God and angels on one side, and nothing on the other side

DaddyCoool:


God is also all good. What's your point?
Wherever there is matter, there is antimatter

Not true, 🤔
If that were to be the case, you won't exist now🤦🏾‍♂️

Lucifyre:


So god is limited by constraints ergo he's not omnipotent or all powerful, then how is he god?!

You can't have all good God and angels on one side, and nothing on the other side. God set our reality and sensibilities to only work like that. The only way we'er aware of good is because bad exists

Gabrielshow24:

Not true, 🤔
If that were to be the case, you won't exist now🤦🏾‍♂️

Meaning what?

DaddyCoool:


Meaning what?

What you posited up there, was wrong and at best a fallacy!!!

Gabrielshow24:

What you posited up there, was wrong and at best a fallacy!!!

Which of what I posted is wrong?

DaddyCoool:
➜God is also all good. What's your point? Wherever there is matter, there is antimatter

. Meaning your god was never in fact an All-mighty to begin with, abi?